Current Events > If someone is a transsexual, should he/she inform potential partner of that fact

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Geiki Ganger
05/26/18 5:00:18 PM
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Pretty simple yes or no question. - Results (13 votes)
Yes. Should be forward with that information.
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No. If he/she wasn't asked, there is no reason to volunteer such private information.
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Wondering if this would be a question that CE is split on.
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masticatingman
05/26/18 5:02:05 PM
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Yes, mostly for their own safety, especially if they are going on a date with a man.
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Solid Snake07
05/26/18 5:05:37 PM
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should you inform romantic partners one important information about yourself? the answer is obviously

The only reason to not tell them is because you're afraid they wouldn't want to date you unless you lie to them.
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Solid Snake07
05/26/18 5:06:48 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Yes, mostly for their own safety, especially if they are going on a date with a man.


and this, people have been killed over this shit
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masticatingman
05/26/18 5:11:25 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
masticatingman posted...
Yes, mostly for their own safety, especially if they are going on a date with a man.

Yeah like I dont think anyone is outright entitled to know on a first date but I think they should for safety reasons.


Will say that the lines get a little blurred I guess if its a transgender who has actually undergone srs (so they have a functioning vagina). But still, it is a big risk to hide it. Sooner or later itll come out almost certainly.
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Rimmer_Dall
05/26/18 5:12:46 PM
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Would not informing them beforehand count as rape by fraud?
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Cal12
05/26/18 5:13:19 PM
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I would kill someone over this kind of omission.
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eston
05/26/18 5:13:19 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Yes, mostly for their own safety, especially if they are going on a date with a man.

I agree but I think it's shitty that this is the main reason
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EbonTitanium
05/26/18 5:14:55 PM
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Yes, it should be a common sense thing to do.
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Garioshi
05/26/18 5:15:45 PM
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If you don't ask about whether your partner has any sort of dealbreaker for you, that's on you.
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LinksLiege
05/26/18 5:16:04 PM
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Not mentioning it could lead to the other person either feeling too betrayed/deceived to continue the relationship, or even getting violent.

It's really down to whether or not you think that's a risk worth taking.
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Turbam
05/26/18 5:16:11 PM
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Yes, because some people may not want to be with a transexual. And there's nothing wrong with that
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silentwing26x
05/26/18 5:16:46 PM
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obviously
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RE_expert44
05/26/18 5:16:50 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Would not informing them beforehand count as rape by fraud?

It should be
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DocileOrangeCup
05/26/18 5:16:59 PM
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Turbam posted...
Yes, because some people may not want to be with a transexual. And there's nothing wrong with that :V

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Muffinz0rz
05/26/18 5:17:45 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
Turbam posted...
Yes, because some people may not want to be with a transexual. And there's nothing wrong with that :V

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Anteaterking
05/26/18 5:19:38 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Would not informing them beforehand count as rape by fraud?


No, unless they asked you if you were transgender and you said no.
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DarkTransient
05/26/18 5:21:10 PM
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I don't think they need to outright bring it up, but it's definitely wrong to lie if asked.
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LinksLiege
05/26/18 5:22:36 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
not according to tumblr

Good thing tumblr doesn't matter.
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andel
05/26/18 5:23:09 PM
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they should definitely disclose it
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Rimmer_Dall
05/26/18 5:25:30 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
No, unless they asked you if you were transgender and you said no.

If I pretend to be, say, my twin and have sex with his girlfriend, does that mean I haven't committed rape by fraud unless she first asks me whether or not I am actually her boyfriend?
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Tyranthraxus
05/26/18 5:26:49 PM
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Panthera
05/26/18 5:28:15 PM
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Morally, no, they shouldn't feel obligated to. For safety purposes it may sometimes be a good idea to do so to weed out idiot losers like this

Cal12 posted...
I would kill someone over this kind of omission.

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Offworlder1
05/26/18 5:35:10 PM
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Then dont date transexuals, I refuse to date or have sex with them but Im not going to harm them or kill them, thats a very extreme batshit insane reaction.

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tennisdude818
05/26/18 5:37:54 PM
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Turbam posted...
Yes, because some people may not want to be with a transexual. And there's nothing wrong with that

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Anteaterking
05/26/18 5:39:09 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
If I pretend to be, say, my twin and have sex with his girlfriend, does that mean I haven't committed rape by fraud unless she first asks me whether or not I am actually her boyfriend?


Generally, impersonation of a specific person (e.g your twin) is legally distinct from impersonating a generic person, unless that person is a law enforcement officer, doctor, etc.
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looked
05/26/18 5:39:15 PM
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They definitely need to tell a potential partner before things get physical. No one deserves to be tricked into something they dont want to do. While I dont condone violence against them, I can understand where people are coming from.
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Eevee-Trainer
05/26/18 5:42:15 PM
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It's certainly not something you should hide from romantic partners. If just because how often it backfires on you if you do. (Plus the moral consequences of lying and deceit and all that.)

I've always make an effort to disclose it to potential partners for that reason. Haven't actually run into instances where it lost me a relationship but then again we're talking about a small number anyhow.
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Cal12
05/26/18 5:42:39 PM
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Panthera posted...
Morally, no, they shouldn't feel obligated to. For safety purposes it may sometimes be a good idea to do so to weed out idiot losers like this

Cal12 posted...
I would kill someone over this kind of omission.


Yes because withholding something like that would be a-okay, right? I dont date or have sex with men. I can respect your desire to transition MtF. You dont neglect to tell someone you may potentially enter a sexual relationship that youre a transgender female.

The amazing thing is you call me an idiot loser while saying they have zero moral obligation to tell their partner that crucial bit of information. Shame on you cause that train of thought would put someone in danger because its incredibly dishonest.
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DoomSwell
05/26/18 5:44:55 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Would not informing them beforehand count as rape by fraud?

Only if you don't watch where you're sticking your dick, and that ain't their fault!
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Collat
05/26/18 5:46:42 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Would not informing them beforehand count as rape by fraud?
No, unless they asked you if you were transgender and you said no.

Just like how you don't need to inform your partners of any STDs you have unless asked... Oh wait.
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BrapEnthusiast
05/26/18 5:47:52 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Would not informing them beforehand count as rape by fraud?


some woman in the UK took her ex to court over that. thought she was having sex with a man. dunno how that case turned out
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Vicious_Dios
05/26/18 5:50:10 PM
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Of course.
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Garioshi
05/26/18 5:50:32 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Would not informing them beforehand count as rape by fraud?

No, unless that applies for literally anything. If I hate Shrek movies, for example, and would never have sex with someone who rometely enjoys them, never ask someone about how they feel about the Shrek movies when in fact they own every Shrek movie on blu-ray, have sex with them, and later find out about their tastes, that would have to be considered rape by fraud.
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Offworlder1
05/26/18 5:53:50 PM
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@Cal12

You do not get to pretend to have the moral high ground when your saying you would kill a transgender over omission.
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FaultyGourry
05/26/18 5:55:10 PM
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If you aren't upfront and honest with the person you're with, then you're a shit partner who doesn't deserve them. Period.
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Cal12
05/26/18 5:55:29 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Cal12 posted...
Panthera posted...
Morally, no, they shouldn't feel obligated to. For safety purposes it may sometimes be a good idea to do so to weed out idiot losers like this

Cal12 posted...
I would kill someone over this kind of omission.


Yes because withholding something like that would be a-okay, right? I dont date or have sex with men. I can respect your desire to transition MtF. You dont neglect to tell someone you may potentially enter a sexual relationship that youre a transgender female.

The amazing thing is you call me an idiot loser while saying they have zero moral obligation to tell their partner that crucial bit of information. Shame on you cause that train of thought would put someone in danger because its incredibly dishonest.

Holy shit, imagine trying to play moral high ground after saying youll murder someone


Its not me taking the moral high ground. Its me explaining why. Would you rather I give them a handshake and say its all good instead? Context is great. I did say I could kill someone for lying or deceiving me about being transgender in a sexual relationship. Its a massive deception.
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Cal12
05/26/18 5:57:06 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
@Cal12

You do not get to pretend to have the moral high ground when your saying you would kill a transgender over omission.


Get over it. They dont get to omit the fact that they are MtF transition if they want to engage in a sexual relationship with a man. Its not about the moral high ground for me.
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Rimmer_Dall
05/26/18 5:57:50 PM
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Blaire White's (a trans woman) take on the subject.

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Cal12
05/26/18 5:59:06 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Cal12 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Cal12 posted...
Panthera posted...
Morally, no, they shouldn't feel obligated to. For safety purposes it may sometimes be a good idea to do so to weed out idiot losers like this

Cal12 posted...
I would kill someone over this kind of omission.


Yes because withholding something like that would be a-okay, right? I dont date or have sex with men. I can respect your desire to transition MtF. You dont neglect to tell someone you may potentially enter a sexual relationship that youre a transgender female.

The amazing thing is you call me an idiot loser while saying they have zero moral obligation to tell their partner that crucial bit of information. Shame on you cause that train of thought would put someone in danger because its incredibly dishonest.

Holy shit, imagine trying to play moral high ground after saying youll murder someone


Its not me taking the moral high ground. Its me explaining why. Would you rather I give them a handshake and say its all good instead? Context is great. I did say I could kill someone for lying or deceiving me about being transgender in a sexual relationship. Its a massive deception.

If you have to explain why youll murder a trans person then stop fucking posting.


I will stop posting when you stop addressing me. Put me on ignore if you dont want to see my posts. If you dont see what a disgusting deception that would be to a straight male then I dont know what to tell you. I can understand why deceiving someone in that situation can lead to violence.
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_Goggalor_
05/26/18 6:01:08 PM
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Yes, 100%.
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