Current Events > I never understood the argument to spend more money on public education

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Key
05/28/18 1:30:03 AM
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If anything I think it's a waste. Like I feel like the average person just isn't that smart and a increase of spending wouldn't change much. I feel like education has more to do with the individual than the quality of the school. I mean I came from a bottom tier school that failed to meet AYP yearly yet I still did fine. And I'm not the only one I know from the school. Granted my entire opinion is based off of melt personal experience so I'm open to others opinions
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ThatMuttGuy
05/28/18 1:38:15 AM
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Why bother sending kids to school in the first place? That'll save everyone even more money.
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OEIO999
05/28/18 1:39:53 AM
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We should just all just home school, if you can't even motivate yourself to learn from home, why even bother?

I say we shut down all schools and colleges and just keep examination centers.
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silentwing26x
05/28/18 1:40:32 AM
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Some politicians don't know anything but to demand more funding. They never ask for anything except more funding. Any amount of spending cuts is out of the question, as they can only ever increase spending.

"think of da children" is a common excuse to secure more funding from the tax cattle.
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nicklebro
05/28/18 1:44:27 AM
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I mean the effects of improved public education are quite clearly beneficial to the country and this is easily proved empirically. It's even more noticeable when you look at the difference in countries that provide the best public education vs those that don't. Anf Idk why anyone would ever point to their own personal experience as if that somehow is even capable of being representative of the entire issue.
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gunplagirl
05/28/18 1:46:28 AM
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Imagine you're in science class. The textbooks are all falling apart, there's no funding for any labs or experiments, no scales or even those mini figures used to represent different chemicals. The books won't help most students because they're so beat up you can't read several repeatedly used sections of it due to prior users. Visual and hands on learners can't use any physical examples they can mess around with for things. The room has messed up chairs and tables so there's no way you can sit comfortably, and some can't even focus because their chairs are so messed up. All the teacher has for most lectures are some old nova videos and of course the lectures that not everybody can follow along with in the books. Unless they take stellar notes and understood the materials as it as taught, they'll probably not learn a thing. The teacher is already overworked and underpaid so they have little interest in after school time being spent explaining materials covered in class.

Maybe not all of those circumstances at once, but individually those things can be detrimental to plenty of students. And some districts are have combinations of all those issues in their schools for an entire student's K-12 learning experience.

You being an exceptional learned doesn't mean everyone else will be able to learn as well or easily as you, especially if they have a learning style that need gets accommodated.

More funding for newer books (not even kidding when I say some teachers are using books that are so old that the teacher wasn't even born yet when that edition of the book came out), decent desks and chairs, materials for various classes (plenty of district lack art classes or they consist of drawing on printer paper), actually paying teachers and making it so class sizes are reasonable and allow teachers time to instruct individual students if necessary. Those are all valid and proven ways to improve the quality of education with increased funding.
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Key
05/28/18 1:55:53 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Imagine you're in science class. The textbooks are all falling apart, there's no funding for any labs or experiments, no scales or even those mini figures used to represent different chemicals. The books won't help most students because they're so beat up you can't read several repeatedly used sections of it due to prior users. Visual and hands on learners can't use any physical examples they can mess around with for things. The room has messed up chairs and tables so there's no way you can sit comfortably, and some can't even focus because their chairs are so messed up. All the teacher has for most lectures are some old nova videos and of course the lectures that not everybody can follow along with in the books. Unless they take stellar notes and understood the materials as it as taught, they'll probably not learn a thing. The teacher is already overworked and underpaid so they have little interest in after school time being spent explaining materials covered in class.

Maybe not all of those circumstances at once, but individually those things can be detrimental to plenty of students. And some districts are have combinations of all those issues in their schools for an entire student's K-12 learning experience.

You being an exceptional learned doesn't mean everyone else will be able to learn as well or easily as you, especially if they have a learning style that need gets accommodated.

More funding for newer books (not even kidding when I say some teachers are using books that are so old that the teacher wasn't even born yet when that edition of the book came out), decent desks and chairs, materials for various classes (plenty of district lack art classes or they consist of drawing on printer paper), actually paying teachers and making it so class sizes are reasonable and allow teachers time to instruct individual students if necessary. Those are all valid and proven ways to improve the quality of education with increased funding.

In the extreme cases you mentioned I would agree that some additional funding is a good idea. However I still feel like additional school funding in the majority of cases doesn't add much. There's only so much money can do. Then again I think going out of the way to accommodate every students learning style is a waste of time.
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nicklebro
05/28/18 2:01:12 AM
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Key posted...

In the extreme cases you mentioned I would agree that some additional funding is a good idea. However I still feel like additional school funding in the majority of cases doesn't add much. There's only so much money can do. Then again I think going out of the way to accommodate every students learning style is a waste of time.

Imagine your intellectual clone is going to a well funded school and.yoire going to this ratty underfunded school, the difference that could make in how successful each of you ends up being is massive. Now consider the fact that that doesn't just apply to you and the school across town, but applies to American schools vs other countries' schools as well. And really it's pretty easy to prove that adequate funding improves the quality of education by an extreme amount... It almost seems as if you're denying that fact despite you having no reason to and all of the evidence proving the exact opposite of what "seems" true to you.
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