Current Events > KogaSteelFang needs out help guys :(

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He's in a bad place so @ him and tell him you think he's a good person.

@KogaSteelfang

You're a good person don't listen to haters.
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What happened?
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What he needs is to stop being a bitch and feeling sorry for himself and grow up a little

But he wont
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PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

What he needs is to stop being a bitch and feeling sorry for himself and grow up a little

But he wont

Ignored.
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I told this to him and I'll say it here for everyone. He's a fine person and doesn't need to be coddled. This is what he wants but not what he needs.

He needs to realize not everything is black and white. It's ok to have flaws and it's ok for someone to tell you that you could improve yourself. To think your hated is silly and disingenuous.

Stop the pity party.

Close this please, when you get the chance.
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out help
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KogaSteelfang posted...

Close this please, when you get the chance.

:( sorry I'm just trying to help.
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PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

What he needs is to stop being a bitch and feeling sorry for himself and grow up a little

But he wont

Oh fuck off.
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He isn't warned though.
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Kitt posted...

PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

What he needs is to stop being a bitch and feeling sorry for himself and grow up a little

But he wont

Oh fuck off.

You and tc are the exact reason hes like this

You baby and coddle the man and hel never actually grow a pair and try to help himself

All he wants is a pity party and for everyone to feel bad about him while never actually giving enough of a shit to try and put forth the effort to better himself

Congrats, youre part of the problem. He needs to hit rock bottom and take a good, long look in the mirror if he wants to try and better himself, not this coddle shit
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KogaSteelfang posted...

Close this please, when you get the chance.

You can't just ignore the underlying issue here. You need professional help and going around messaging people thinking they hate you (when they don't) isn't going to help you.

Doing the same thing over and over isn't going to help. You need to make the change. Take a break from CE and try to fix yourself. There's professionals out there that can help. CE can't.

I agree with tough love.
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WhatHappened posted...

What happened?

menardis not wrong tbh. there's no point enabling the behavior. obviously koga needs to get better but he can't do it in a place as toxic as ce.
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WhatHappened posted...

What happened?

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you're asking people to flood his notification inbox with this. less obnoxious things were considered calls to invasion in the past.
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also this topic, in a general sense, was very short sighted on tc's part.
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While he seems like a nice enough guy all I've ever seen him post is self deprecating and depressing messages about himself that come off as begging for reassurance so I can understand some of the posts in here (Though they could probably be worded nicer)

Axiom posted...

While he seems like a nice enough guy all I've ever seen him post is self deprecating and depressing messages about himself that come off as begging for reassurance so I can understand some of the posts in here (Though they could probably be worded nicer)

Believe me, they were worded nicer in the past. The problem is being nice isn't going to help him get better, which is what he needs. So blunt words are necessary. That doesn't mean we hate him or dislike him.

ThatMuttGuy posted...

Axiom posted...

While he seems like a nice enough guy all I've ever seen him post is self deprecating and depressing messages about himself that come off as begging for reassurance so I can understand some of the posts in here (Though they could probably be worded nicer)

Believe me, they were worded nicer in the past. The problem is being nice isn't going to help him get better, which is what he needs. So blunt words are necessary. That doesn't mean we hate him or dislike him.

This. I have a 12 year old niece that understands when Im mean to her I don't hate her.
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Vulgorn posted...

also this topic, in a general sense, was very short sighted on tc's part.

I'm not going to sit around and do nothing when someone reaches out to me for help. I know some people in here may be cynical and uncaring but I'm not.
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Duncanwii posted...

Vulgorn posted...

also this topic, in a general sense, was very short sighted on tc's part.

I'm not going to sit around and do nothing when someone reaches out to me for help. I know some people in here may be cynical and uncaring but I'm not.

You're enabling him to have a toxic mindset.

I'm not going to sit around and do nothing when someone reaches out to me for help. I know some people in here may be cynical and uncaring but I'm not.

i don't buy that shit for a second, you're trying to get people to harass him. scumbag.
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Duncanwii posted...

I'm not going to sit around and do nothing when someone reaches out to me for help. I know some people in here may be cynical and uncaring but I'm not.

yes, but realize where the fuck you're at.

ce is an uncaring place and this topic is just opening him up to being ridiculed.

yeah there are people here who are going to give good advice, but if someone tells you something in confidence, particularly something deeply personal like this, you don't make them vulnerable like this publically.
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The fed up tough love approach is the point I'm at now, but he just takes it as hatred and responds as such. It's beyond aggravating. What MuttGuy and PlsGod have the gist of it.

also topics like this don't help, but of course someone like Duncan doesn't see that, either.
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While I kinda agree in general that coddling people is never the answer, going out of your way to be a dick isn't the right answer either.

*urinates on this dumpster fire of a topic*
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I hate prematurely closed topics.
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Duncan really isn't the kind of user to do that. He most likely just made this topic without thinking wobuffet

maybe you just have the wrong idea about him.
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hmmm
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DragonGirlYuki posted...

I hate prematurely closed topics.

Same

Pancake posted...

Duncan really isn't the kind of user to do that. He most likely just made this topic without thinking wobuffet

maybe you just have the wrong idea about him.

I genuinely made this topic to drum up support for my friend who I talk too often who came to me for help. Yes it wasn't very smart and yes people on here are a hive of scum and villainy but I like to think of myself as a light in the darkness. If you don't believe me tha ts on you. I'm going to close this topic and do everything I can to support him without it. >:(
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No. When he constantly insults himself it's like he's insulting any of us who are in the same situation or worse.

Sometimes the world sucks and you're not to blame. Bootstraps theory and just world fallacy are BS. Have some pride.
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Duncan, I realize you probably won't understand but nothing you say will help him. You don't need to stop talking to him, but he needs to seek outside help from people who know what they're doing.

He said that a therapist told him the world was better off if he killed himself. There's no way in hell someone would say that. He twists words and replaces them with what he imagines we think of him.

And I'm not saying this to be a dick. He just needs help and no one here is able to give him the help he needs.

Aloner posted...

No. When he constantly insults himself it's like he's insulting any of us who are in the same situation or worse.

Sometimes the world sucks and you're not to blame. Bootstraps theory and just world fallacy are BS. Have some pride.

It's because I'm a useless, pathetic, piece of shit, as evidenced by the above opinions. You, and anyone else similar, are not.
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Duncanwii posted...

I genuinely made this topic to drum up support for my friend who I talk too often who came to me for help. Yes it wasn't very smart and yes people on here are a hive of scum and villainy but I like to think of myself as a light in the darkness. If you don't believe me tha ts on you. I'm going to close this topic and do everything I can to support him without it. >:(

Being oblivious af isn't an excuse to add to the toxicity of your so-called "friend." Light in the darkness, my ass.
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KogaSteelfang posted...

Aloner posted...

No. When he constantly insults himself it's like he's insulting any of us who are in the same situation or worse.

Sometimes the world sucks and you're not to blame. Bootstraps theory and just world fallacy are BS. Have some pride.

It's because I'm a useless, pathetic, piece of shit, as evidenced by the above opinions. You, and anyone else similar, are not.

Aren't you tired of the pity party after all these years? You're the only person holding you back from a happy life.

Duncanwii posted...

Pancake posted...

Duncan really isn't the kind of user to do that. He most likely just made this topic without thinking wobuffet

maybe you just have the wrong idea about him.

I genuinely made this topic to drum up support for my friend who I talk too often who came to me for help. Yes it wasn't very smart and yes people on here are a hive of scum and villainy but I like to think of myself as a light in the darkness. If you don't believe me tha ts on you. I'm going to close this topic and do everything I can to support him without it. >:(

Everyone here wants him to get better, and practically everyone hes talked to has tried giving him support. People need to get out of this mindset that babying people like this will solve anything.
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Duncanwii posted...

I genuinely made this topic to drum up support for my friend who I talk too often who came to me for help. Yes it wasn't very smart and yes people on here are a hive of scum and villainy but I like to think of myself as a light in the darkness. If you don't believe me tha ts on you. I'm going to close this topic and do everything I can to support him without it. >:(

you're not only enabling him

but you're contributing to the problem by publicizing it.
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KogaSteelfang posted...

ThatMuttGuy posted...

Duncan, I realize you probably won't understand but nothing you say will help him. You don't need to stop talking to him, but he needs to seek outside help from people who know what they're doing.

He said that a therapist told him the world was better off if he killed himself. There's no way in hell someone would say that. He twists words and replaces them with what he imagines we think of him.

And I'm not saying this to be a dick. He just needs help and no one here is able to give him the help he needs.

That's not what he said, I told him I was going to kill myself, and after he asked why and I explained it, he said "yeah, I can see that." then continued like nothing was brought up.

Again, how can I trust your word when you've been twisting everyone's words at any given moment?

Even if that actually was said, find another therapist that will help you. You can't give up after one stumble.

Never mind about closing the topic now. It's a dumpster fire, just let it burn out on it's own.
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the path to getting proper professional help is a journey.

there's going to be a fuck ton of trial and error, end of story. that doesn't mean it's not a journey worth taking.

therapists are people too, and people can be shitty. no one is exempt from this possibility.
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KogaSteelfang needs his account blocked if he is going about making suicide threats.
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I think what Koga needs most of all is to learn how to handle criticism. Being nice doesn't work with him, as he just keeps baiting for more reassurances. But when you're being genuinely critical and trying to help, he clamshells up and threatens to off himself.

Dude is not unattractive in the least & seems to be fairly intelligent, he needs to he out of his fucking head and realise that almost all of his problems are in there with him.
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Koga is pretty good looking, to be honest.