Current Events > Wow... PUBG Devs are actually going through with it... Sueing over Fortnite

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Seriously? What case can you possibly have? You don't own an entire genre. Way to throw your money away. LMAO

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pubg-creators-suing-over-fortnite-133900568.html

Now the company behind PUBG is taking Fortnites creators to court. PUBG (the company), a subsidiary of Bluehole (the company behind PUBG, the game slightly confusing, I know), has filed a suit against Epic Games over copyright infringement concerns. The South Korean suit, noted by The Korea Times, takes particular issue with Fortnites battle royale mode.

Bluehole has been vocal about the similarities since the new mode was released in September. The developer released a statement at the time, addressing growing concerns with its former partner.

After listening to the growing feedback from our community and reviewing the gameplay for ourselves, the developer wrote, we are concerned that Fortnite may be replicating the experience for which PUBG is known.

PUBGs popularity has been declining since the beginning of this year, while Fortnite has continued to pick up steam. Last week, Epic announced that it would be investing $100 million into eSports competitions over the next two years.

Epic declined offer a comment for this story.

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lootboxes must not be enough money for them
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Fortnite should be illegal. People need to be protected from their bad taste in video games and developers should be banned from making 3rd person shooters

Didn't pubg just rip off arma?
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So a company can own a genre now?
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Back when the game was first released, the UI was nearly identical to PUBG's. So were the game rules (how the barrier shrank, for example). It's one thing to copy an idea, it's another thing to copy the execution of the idea, which in some areas Fortnite devs were and are guilty of.

Look at the Hunger Games vs Battle Royale comparisons of old.

Both had similar ideas, but dramatically different executions. For example, the game rules were vastly different. In Hunger Games you did not have a shrinking barrier but rather permanent sectors that would spawn various hazards like poison fog, whereas in BR, you only had a shrinking barrier and neck collars that would explode if they breached said barrier. Despite this and other dramatic differences (like the whole gladiatorial training), the Hunger Games author was frequently accused of "plagiarism". With PUBG vs Fortnite, even the execution was copied, not just the idea. Bonafide plagiarism.

maybe if pubg wasn't such shit garbage it'd be more popular
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AlecSkorpio posted...

Didn't pubg just rip off arma?

yeah
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Ammonitida posted...

Back when the game was first released, the UI was nearly identical to PUBG's. So were the game rules (how the barrier shrank, for example). It's one thing to copy an idea, it's another thing to copy the execution of the idea, which in some areas Fortnite devs were and are guilty of.

Look at the Hunger Games vs Battle Royale comparisons of old.

Both had similar ideas, but dramatically different executions. For example, the game rules were vastly different. In Hunger Games you did not have a shrinking barrier but rather permanent sectors that would spawn various hazards like poison fog, whereas in BR, you only had a shrinking barrier and neck collars that would explode if they breached said barrier. Despite this and other dramatic differences (like the whole gladiatorial training), the Hunger Games author was frequently accused of "plagiarism". With PUBG vs Fortnite, even the execution was copied, not just the idea. Bonafide plagiarism.

Man, I wonder how many people can Blizzard sue for copying their UI and MMO style.
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NightMarishPie posted...

AlecSkorpio posted...

Didn't pubg just rip off arma?

yeah

I'm pretty sure they did
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Maybe if Bluehole put some effort into bug fixing PUBG and making it not look like shit, they wouldn't have lost to a competent developer.
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Didn't realize PUBG created Battle Royale as a concept. Also, why did they wait till now, when the games (from what I've seen) are vastly different? Fortnite has its own personality now more than ever
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LightHawKnight posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Back when the game was first released, the UI was nearly identical to PUBG's. So were the game rules (how the barrier shrank, for example). It's one thing to copy an idea, it's another thing to copy the execution of the idea, which in some areas Fortnite devs were and are guilty of.

Look at the Hunger Games vs Battle Royale comparisons of old.

Both had similar ideas, but dramatically different executions. For example, the game rules were vastly different. In Hunger Games you did not have a shrinking barrier but rather permanent sectors that would spawn various hazards like poison fog, whereas in BR, you only had a shrinking barrier and neck collars that would explode if they breached said barrier. Despite this and other dramatic differences (like the whole gladiatorial training), the Hunger Games author was frequently accused of "plagiarism". With PUBG vs Fortnite, even the execution was copied, not just the idea. Bonafide plagiarism.

Man, I wonder how many people can Blizzard sue for copying their UI and MMO style.

A lot. And Ark devs could sue the creators of Conan Exiles for copying their UI and crafting system.

Darkninja42 posted...

Didn't realize PUBG created Battle Royale as a concept. Also, why did they wait till now, when the games (from what I've seen) are vastly different? Fortnite has its own personality now more than ever

They're not suing for that reason, but rather coping their UI.

BR as a concept goes back to the 1970s at least, well before the book Battle Royale that is frequently cited as the originator of the idea.

AlecSkorpio posted...

Didn't pubg just rip off arma?

IIRC it was an arma 3 mod.

but in that case, do DotA 2 also a rip off of Warcraft III? i keep getting varied answer.
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Ammonitida posted...

Darkninja42 posted...

Didn't realize PUBG created Battle Royale as a concept. Also, why did they wait till now, when the games (from what I've seen) are vastly different? Fortnite has its own personality now more than ever

They're not suing for that reason, but rather coping their UI.

BR as a concept goes back to the 1970s at least, well before the book Battle Royale that is frequently cited as the originator of the idea.

I was being sarcastic with the Battle Royale comment. But what about their UIs has ever been similar at any point?
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The PUBG v. FORTNITE debates are going to be so fun to observe
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Ammonitida posted...

LightHawKnight posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Back when the game was first released, the UI was nearly identical to PUBG's. So were the game rules (how the barrier shrank, for example). It's one thing to copy an idea, it's another thing to copy the execution of the idea, which in some areas Fortnite devs were and are guilty of.

Look at the Hunger Games vs Battle Royale comparisons of old.

Both had similar ideas, but dramatically different executions. For example, the game rules were vastly different. In Hunger Games you did not have a shrinking barrier but rather permanent sectors that would spawn various hazards like poison fog, whereas in BR, you only had a shrinking barrier and neck collars that would explode if they breached said barrier. Despite this and other dramatic differences (like the whole gladiatorial training), the Hunger Games author was frequently accused of "plagiarism". With PUBG vs Fortnite, even the execution was copied, not just the idea. Bonafide plagiarism.

Man, I wonder how many people can Blizzard sue for copying their UI and MMO style.

A lot. And Ark devs could sue the creators of Conan Exiles for copying their UI and crafting system.

Are you referring to an older build of Conan or something?
Been playing Ark for nearly 2 years and recently started Conan. The UI, crafting, inputs,... are nothing alike.
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Asherlee10 posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

Maybe if Bluehole put some effort into bug fixing PUBG and making it not look like shit, they wouldn't have lost to a competent developer.

I don't even care how it looks, just make the engine work.

they cant

PUBG Corp has shown themselves to be one of the worst developers in the world time and time again

it would be comical if they hadnt made billions of dollars off their shitty work
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LightHawKnight posted...

So a company can own a genre now?

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Turtlebread posted...

maybe if pubg wasn't such shit garbage it'd be more popular

Or it wouldnt have been trumped by a competitor.
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a while ago someone made a topic that PUBG devs must be salty because fortnite stole their thunder.
it seems now we know the answer lol.
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How many developers can Ninty sue for copying Zelda?
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Darkninja42 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Darkninja42 posted...

Didn't realize PUBG created Battle Royale as a concept. Also, why did they wait till now, when the games (from what I've seen) are vastly different? Fortnite has its own personality now more than ever

They're not suing for that reason, but rather coping their UI.

BR as a concept goes back to the 1970s at least, well before the book Battle Royale that is frequently cited as the originator of the idea.

I was being sarcastic with the Battle Royale comment. But what about their UIs has ever been similar at any point?

When Fortnite was first released, the radar, map, compass, health meter (both yours and your teammates), stat tracking were all the same, both in looks, placement and function. Just the crafting parts of the UI distinguished Fortnite's UI from PUBG's. They're different now, thanks to updates for both games. So I doubt the lawsuit will be a success.

A company can either actually make effort in making their product better, or try to get rid of the competition in response to not having the best product.

Looks like we see where PUBG stands.
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