Current Events > So, networks are now removing Roseanne's re-runs from their lineups. Too far?

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Caution999 05/30/18 9:29:53 PM #1:	Have we gone too far, here? - Results (41 votes) Nope. She dug her grave, and now she can lay in it. No forgiveness. Ever. 24.39% (10 votes) 10 No, but over-time, I'd be willing to forgive as long as she does the right things moving forward 17.07% (7 votes) 7 Yes, I acknowledge her tweet was offensive, but for fucks sake we have re-runs in syndication that star convicted Pedoph 24.39% (10 votes) 10 Yes. She made a joke, didn't think about what she was saying, and I understand that will happen to a comedian now and t 9.76% (4 votes) 4 Yes. And I agree the current show should've been canceled...but the old series? Nah. We're getting crazy 9.76% (4 votes) 4 Yes. She should've been punished, but this whole thing has gone too far. What's next? Gonna throw the book at some guy 14.63% (6 votes) 6 And now, my rant. Deal with it. ABC blew a huge opportunity here. The Roseanne reboot had RECORD breaking ratings that networks really haven't seen since casuals discovered the internet. Hear me out, here: Bring Wanda Sykes - or any African American actor onto the show for a star appearance. Let's make an episode where Roseanne character says something that could be interpreted as racist. Let's push the issue out in front of a national audience, where, you're gonna have the most people watching in a very long time. Here's your chance to provide a LEARNING EXPERIENCE for the viewing audience. This is huge exposure to a huge problem in this country. Let's face it head on. Let's try to teach Americans how to be more aware of what they're saying, and who they could offend. It's time we spin stuff to be positive. ABC wasted a very popular show, the most popular in YEARS, where we could've learned something. All we're doing right now is furthering the racial divide in this country. We need to come together. This, could be as big as when American History X (which is one of the best movies I've ever seen) gave insight to all of us. Remember how powerful American History X was? How it really spoke to the average American. How it made some people realize how racist they were. We could've had a powerful moment - very similar to how American History X provided. This potential episode -...really could've moved people in that same way. But no. We had to act on impulse. We had to cater to mob rule. You would think, by 2018, we would be thinking more rationally as a society. How did nobody at ABC think of what I just posted? You're not gonna bridge the racial divide by pointing fingers and saying "you're a racist! You're banished for life!! WAHH WAHH WAHH!" Now, I'm gonna get someone on here who's gonna say: "well we can't just invite Roseanne back with open arms. This isn't realistic." But...it really is. Really, her text could be interpreted in a few ways. First, she's a Comedian. So, you know her mind is constantly trying to create jokes. It's in her blood. You're not gonna take that part of Roseanne....out of Roseanne. ABC knew what kind of person Roseanne was, here. Let's not kid ourselves. Why not just take her salary away for a few episodes and put that money towards something positive? Maybe pressure Roseanne to publicly donate her paycheck for a while. She should've been more aware of her tweet. She wasn't. Does anybody really think Roseanne, the woman that pushed so many rights for so many groups of people - is racist? Or did she get fired up on a politically charged tweet and lost control and didn't realize what race Valerie Jarrett is. And let's face it - uh, by first glance can you really tell what race Jarrett is? Nobody is defending what she tweeted, but I'm putting it into perspective. Or, did she just want to make a point and have it be funny? I mean, shit, if I sat on the beach this weekend, I may end up looking more black than VJ. No offense. We missed a great opportunity here. We missed a chance to teach our children, teach ourselves, right from wrong. How to handle racial tension. How to approach this issue and really propel the attention it could've received. Imagine the ratings if they went ahead with that episode. People would be FLOCKING to their TV sets to see that. Imagine how many people would could touch with the right positive message. What a blunder. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:902278670] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote> Have we gone too far, here? - Results (41 votes) Nope. She dug her grave, and now she can lay in it. No forgiveness. Ever. 24.39% (10 votes) 10 No, but over-time, I'd be willing to forgive as long as she does the right things moving forward 17.07% (7 votes) 7 Yes, I acknowledge her tweet was offensive, but for fucks sake we have re-runs in syndication that star convicted Pedoph 24.39% (10 votes) 10 Yes. She made a joke, didn't think about what she was saying, and I understand that will happen to a comedian now and t 9.76% (4 votes) 4 Yes. And I agree the current show should've been canceled...but the old series? Nah. We're getting crazy 9.76% (4 votes) 4 Yes. She should've been punished, but this whole thing has gone too far. What's next? Gonna throw the book at some guy 14.63% (6 votes) 6 And now, my rant. Deal with it. ABC blew a huge opportunity here. The Roseanne reboot had RECORD breaking ratings that networks really haven't seen since casuals discovered the internet. Hear me out, here: Bring Wanda Sykes - or any African American actor onto the show for a star appearance. Let's make an episode where Roseanne character says something that could be interpreted as racist. Let's push the issue out in front of a national audience, where, you're gonna have the most people watching in a very long time. Here's your chance to provide a LEARNING EXPERIENCE for the viewing audience. This is huge exposure to a huge problem in this country. Let's face it head on. Let's try to teach Americans how to be more aware of what they're saying, and who they could offend. It's time we spin stuff to be positive. ABC wasted a very popular show, the most popular in YEARS, where we could've learned something. All we're doing right now is furthering the racial divide in this country. We need to come together. This, could be as big as when American History X (which is one of the best movies I've ever seen) gave insight to all of us. Remember how powerful American History X was? How it really spoke to the average American. How it made some people realize how racist they were. We could've had a powerful moment - very similar to how American History X provided. This potential episode -...really could've moved people in that same way. But no. We had to act on impulse. We had to cater to mob rule. You would think, by 2018, we would be thinking more rationally as a society. How did nobody at ABC think of what I just posted? You're not gonna bridge the racial divide by pointing fingers and saying "you're a racist! You're banished for life!! WAHH WAHH WAHH!" Now, I'm gonna get someone on here who's gonna say: "well we can't just invite Roseanne back with open arms. This isn't realistic." But...it really is. Really, her text could be interpreted in a few ways. First, she's a Comedian. So, you know her mind is constantly trying to create jokes. It's in her blood. You're not gonna take that part of Roseanne....out of Roseanne. ABC knew what kind of person Roseanne was, here. Let's not kid ourselves. Why not just take her salary away for a few episodes and put that money towards something positive? Maybe pressure Roseanne to publicly donate her paycheck for a while. She should've been more aware of her tweet. She wasn't. Does anybody really think Roseanne, the woman that pushed so many rights for so many groups of people - is racist? Or did she get fired up on a politically charged tweet and lost control and didn't realize what race Valerie Jarrett is. And let's face it - uh, by first glance can you really tell what race Jarrett is? Nobody is defending what she tweeted, but I'm putting it into perspective. Or, did she just want to make a point and have it be funny? I mean, shit, if I sat on the beach this weekend, I may end up looking more black than VJ. No offense. We missed a great opportunity here. We missed a chance to teach our children, teach ourselves, right from wrong. How to handle racial tension. How to approach this issue and really propel the attention it could've received. Imagine the ratings if they went ahead with that episode. People would be FLOCKING to their TV sets to see that. Imagine how many people would could touch with the right positive message. What a blunder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/30/18 9:31:08 PM #2:	Fair, next. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:902278738] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PokemonHunter69 05/30/18 9:31:30 PM #3:	Time to boycott those networks --- http://tinyurl.com/j8nkn64 / http://tinyurl.com/gp8btex / http://tinyurl.com/gv6leno / http://tinyurl.com/zpf655t http://tinyurl.com/jcb8buc / PKMNH69///REEE <cite>PokemonHunter69 posted [p:902278757] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>Time to boycott those networks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 05/30/18 9:37:06 PM #4:	I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point. Someone said something the higher ups didn't like? Better erase them from history altogether. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC / 98/99 Fishing. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:902279068] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point. Someone said something the higher ups didn't like? Better erase them from history altogether.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
V-E-G-Y- 05/30/18 9:37:34 PM #5:	Tmaster148 posted... Fair, next. --- https://imgur.com/L6MQGtI https://imgur.com/HAj1Ocp https://imgur.com/Op6gMTg https://imgur.com/hNkY6mv <cite>V-E-G-Y- posted [p:902279095] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/30/18 9:37:45 PM #6:	V-E-G-Y- posted... Tmaster148 posted... Fair, next. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:902279107] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>V-E-G-Y- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 05/30/18 9:38:43 PM #7:	Hexenherz posted... I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point. Someone said something the higher ups didn't like? Better erase them from history altogether. Yep. And quite frankly, I think my idea could've been a ground breaking and HISTORICAL moment in television history. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:902279164] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point. Someone said something the higher ups didn't like? Better erase them from history altogether.</quote> Yep. And quite frankly, I think my idea could've been a ground breaking and HISTORICAL moment in television history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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more_cow_bell 05/30/18 9:40:03 PM #9:	Hexenherz posted... I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point. yeah... no. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/Qj07xH0I1AaZy/giphy.gif https://imgur.com/0O95M https://imgur.com/IV8gR2Z <cite>more_cow_bell posted [p:902279227] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point.</quote> yeah... no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 05/30/18 9:40:16 PM #10:	Hexenherz posted... I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point. Someone said something the higher ups didn't like? Better erase them from history altogether. Communities have been socially engineering behavior deemed acceptable by the masses through the use of shame since we stopped hunting and gathering. And even then, probably some of that happened. And the subset of conservatives who think this was an overreaction conveniently forget that "the good old days" had this type of behavior too. --- https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:902279239] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point. Someone said something the higher ups didn't like? Better erase them from history altogether.</quote> Communities have been socially engineering behavior deemed acceptable by the masses through the use of shame since we stopped hunting and gathering. And even then, probably some of that happened. And the subset of conservatives who think this was an overreaction conveniently forget that "the good old days" had this type of behavior too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 05/30/18 9:40:29 PM #11:	I'm just tired of hearing about it already tbh. <cite>Vertania posted [p:902279249] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>I'm just tired of hearing about it already tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/30/18 9:41:03 PM #12:	Asherlee10 posted... Caution, you don't think you are too emotionally invested in this story, do you? I'm not being snarky right now. Its Caution...he's always melting down over something. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:902279289] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Caution, you don't think you are too emotionally invested in this story, do you? I'm not being snarky right now.</quote> Its Caution...he's always melting down over something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 05/30/18 9:41:27 PM #13:	Caution999 posted... Hexenherz posted... I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point. Someone said something the higher ups didn't like? Better erase them from history altogether. Yep. And quite frankly, I think my idea could've been a ground breaking and HISTORICAL moment in television history. Not gonna lie I kinda just skipped over your idea originally but I went back and re-read it and that sounds rather mature and not like something anyone would have expected. I don't recall ever seeing that show (except maybe as a kid if my mom or dad watched it), but I would have caught that episode somehow. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC / 98/99 Fishing. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:902279312] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>I really feel like we're living in the 21st century soviet union at this point. Someone said something the higher ups didn't like? Better erase them from history altogether.</quote> Yep. And quite frankly, I think my idea could've been a ground breaking and HISTORICAL moment in television history.</quote> Not gonna lie I kinda just skipped over your idea originally but I went back and re-read it and that sounds rather mature and not like something anyone would have expected. I don't recall ever seeing that show (except maybe as a kid if my mom or dad watched it), but I would have caught that episode somehow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat More Beef 05/30/18 9:43:29 PM #14:	Funny, I didn't see you make this kind of statement when Kathy Griffin had an decapitated head of an effigy of Trump... in fact, most Conservatives were happy to throw her to the wolves. Where was your "teachable moment" and "she's just a comedian" rants during that, huh? You gotta get some consistency on these issues, Caution, otherwise your bias speaks all I need to know. --- I wrote a horror short story collection. You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com <cite>Eat More Beef posted [p:902279426] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>Funny, I didn't see you make this kind of statement when Kathy Griffin had an decapitated head of an effigy of Trump... in fact, most Conservatives were happy to throw her to the wolves. Where was your "teachable moment" and "she's just a comedian" rants during that, huh? You gotta get some consistency on these issues, Caution, otherwise your bias speaks all I need to know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 05/30/18 9:45:25 PM #15:	TheVipaGTS posted... V-E-G-Y- posted... Tmaster148 posted... Fair, next. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:902279527] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>V-E-G-Y- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next.</quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/30/18 9:46:06 PM #16:	Hexenherz posted... Not gonna lie I kinda just skipped over your idea originally but I went back and re-read it and that sounds rather mature and not like something anyone would have expected. I don't recall ever seeing that show (except maybe as a kid if my mom or dad watched it), but I would have caught that episode somehow. But what would that do? Lets take an Actor who has said a bunch of offensive and racist shit in her real life, those are her real views and real opinions...then write a script she reads from where her character on TV realizes racism is bad. That isn't going to change Roseanne as a person. that isn't going to change what her real life beliefs are. its the equivalent of a PR Person writing a scripted apology that says "im sorry if i hurt anyone that's not me"...no, it clearly is you and one 30 minute episode on a scripted TV show won't change who you are if several decades on earth haven't.. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:902279568] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Not gonna lie I kinda just skipped over your idea originally but I went back and re-read it and that sounds rather mature and not like something anyone would have expected. I don't recall ever seeing that show (except maybe as a kid if my mom or dad watched it), but I would have caught that episode somehow.</quote> But what would that do? Lets take an Actor who has said a bunch of offensive and racist shit in her real life, those are her real views and real opinions...then write a script she reads from where her character on TV realizes racism is bad. That isn't going to change Roseanne as a person. that isn't going to change what her real life beliefs are. its the equivalent of a PR Person writing a scripted apology that says "im sorry if i hurt anyone that's not me"...no, it clearly is you and one 30 minute episode on a scripted TV show won't change who you are if several decades on earth haven't..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 05/30/18 9:46:31 PM #17:	Asherlee10 posted... Caution, you don't think you are too emotionally invested in this story, do you? I'm not being snarky right now. I just...it really upsets me that they wasted this opportunity. This a complete overreaction. When are we gonna start examining things and not being impulsive as a country? It's just to me, I'm starting to think some people don't really want to bridge the divide. Ever. They want to complain. That's what they want to do. They don't want progress. They want to be mad. They want to be a victim. When are we gonna stand up and go "you know what? Let's turn this into a positive." This is the biggest blunder in television history. ABC had a chance to make history. But no. Let's make the divide worse. Let's make people hate each other even more. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:902279584] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Caution, you don't think you are too emotionally invested in this story, do you? I'm not being snarky right now.</quote> I just...it really upsets me that they wasted this opportunity. This a complete overreaction. When are we gonna start examining things and not being impulsive as a country? It's just to me, I'm starting to think some people don't really want to bridge the divide. Ever. They want to complain. That's what they want to do. They don't want progress. They want to be mad. They want to be a victim. When are we gonna stand up and go "you know what? Let's turn this into a positive." This is the biggest blunder in television history. ABC had a chance to make history. But no. Let's make the divide worse. Let's make people hate each other even more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/30/18 9:47:11 PM #18:	Asherlee10 posted... Caution, you don't think you are too emotionally invested in this story, do you? I'm not being snarky right now. He's one of the few people that's actually speaking sense. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:902279621] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Caution, you don't think you are too emotionally invested in this story, do you? I'm not being snarky right now.</quote> He's one of the few people that's actually speaking sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 05/30/18 9:47:39 PM #19:	Eat More Beef posted... Funny, I didn't see you make this kind of statement when Kathy Griffin had an decapitated head of an effigy of Trump... in fact, most Conservatives were happy to throw her to the wolves. Where was your "teachable moment" and "she's just a comedian" rants during that, huh? You gotta get some consistency on these issues, Caution, otherwise your bias speaks all I need to know. Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:902279649] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eat More Beef posted...</cite> <quote>Funny, I didn't see you make this kind of statement when Kathy Griffin had an decapitated head of an effigy of Trump... in fact, most Conservatives were happy to throw her to the wolves. Where was your "teachable moment" and "she's just a comedian" rants during that, huh? You gotta get some consistency on these issues, Caution, otherwise your bias speaks all I need to know.</quote> Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 05/30/18 9:47:58 PM #20:	You know a lot of people in entertainment/literature were racist. Should we all boycott everything by them? Cancel her show, whatever. But why the old one too? Seems like a massive overreaction. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:902279657] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>You know a lot of people in entertainment/literature were racist. Should we all boycott everything by them? Cancel her show, whatever. But why the old one too? Seems like a massive overreaction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 05/30/18 9:48:56 PM #22:	Caution999 posted... They want to be a victim. Look in the mirror ONCE, my dude holy fucking shit I'm at a loss for words --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:902279712] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>They want to be a victim.</quote> Look in the mirror ONCE, my dude holy fucking shit I'm at a loss for words</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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more_cow_bell 05/30/18 9:51:59 PM #25:	Caution999 posted... Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here. Roseanne's ratings where already dropping --- https://media.giphy.com/media/Qj07xH0I1AaZy/giphy.gif https://imgur.com/0O95M https://imgur.com/IV8gR2Z <cite>more_cow_bell posted [p:902279868] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here.</quote> Roseanne's ratings where already dropping</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat More Beef 05/30/18 9:52:46 PM #26:	Caution999 posted... Eat More Beef posted... Funny, I didn't see you make this kind of statement when Kathy Griffin had an decapitated head of an effigy of Trump... in fact, most Conservatives were happy to throw her to the wolves. Where was your "teachable moment" and "she's just a comedian" rants during that, huh? You gotta get some consistency on these issues, Caution, otherwise your bias speaks all I need to know. Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here. No she did not. I concede this one; however, as previously stated in the other thread about this, they already did a teachable moment in Roseanne where a Muslim family moved it. Guess what, it was a good television moment but it didn't change her racist views in the slightest. She had her chance and fucked it up. She's a scum bag. Deal with it. --- I wrote a horror short story collection. You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com <cite>Eat More Beef posted [p:902279906] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Eat More Beef posted...</cite> <quote>Funny, I didn't see you make this kind of statement when Kathy Griffin had an decapitated head of an effigy of Trump... in fact, most Conservatives were happy to throw her to the wolves. Where was your "teachable moment" and "she's just a comedian" rants during that, huh? You gotta get some consistency on these issues, Caution, otherwise your bias speaks all I need to know.</quote> Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here.</quote> No she did not. I concede this one; however, as previously stated in the other thread about this, they already did a teachable moment in Roseanne where a Muslim family moved it. Guess what, it was a good television moment but it didn't change her racist views in the slightest. She had her chance and fucked it up. She's a scum bag. Deal with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/30/18 9:52:49 PM #27:	Caution999 posted... We missed a chance to teach our children, teach ourselves, right from wrong. How to handle racial tension. LMAO @ learning how to deal with racial tension from someone who tweets that people she didn't like for political reasons is the daughter of planet of the apes --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:902279909] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>We missed a chance to teach our children, teach ourselves, right from wrong. How to handle racial tension. </quote> LMAO @ learning how to deal with racial tension from someone who tweets that people she didn't like for political reasons is the daughter of planet of the apes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/30/18 9:56:00 PM #28:	Hey look, another Caution topic where he cries about people being so divided while he ignores the ridiculous amounts of times he does the same damn thing and then supports a President who's ENTIRE CAMPAIGN was "Us vs THEM, I ALONE CAN FIX AMERICA!" Roseanne's conspiracy theorist Qultist ass can pound salt for all I care, she knew the rules of the game when she signed up. There's no way ABC didn't get on her when she pulled the "DAVID HOGG IS A BROWNSHIRT!!!" shit after Parkland. This is the same lady who called Susan Rice a chimp years ago, so clearly this isn't some "misunderstanding". She's a trashy obnoxious person, and always has been who should have been left in the past, and her coworkers and people involved are lucky they got a full season without her fucking up already. Game over. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:902280048] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>Hey look, another Caution topic where he cries about people being so divided while he ignores the ridiculous amounts of times he does the same damn thing and then supports a President who's ENTIRE CAMPAIGN was "Us vs THEM, I ALONE CAN FIX AMERICA!" Roseanne's conspiracy theorist Qultist ass can pound salt for all I care, she knew the rules of the game when she signed up. There's no way ABC didn't get on her when she pulled the "DAVID HOGG IS A BROWNSHIRT!!!" shit after Parkland. This is the same lady who called Susan Rice a chimp years ago, so clearly this isn't some "misunderstanding". She's a trashy obnoxious person, and always has been who should have been left in the past, and her coworkers and people involved are lucky they got a full season without her fucking up already. Game over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 05/30/18 9:57:33 PM #29:	I ultimately dont really care, but networks have to worry about the image theyre presenting as they also represent their sponsors. Actors are basically at the bottom of that hill, and Roseanne turned her own brand into poison. What bothers me is that people think this is an example of political correctness oppression when its really just market forces holding someone responsible for their actions. I feel bad for all her coworkers, particularly the crew. I dont think your idea is bad, its just not going to save the show because Roseanne is unrepentant. People have a hard enough time forgiving others when theyre genuinely penitent. --- ultimate milf hunter https://imgur.com/lCEdce6 https://imgur.com/2N1Ezia https://imgur.com/ukJ6sPJ https://youtu.be/IDYaHvDiTr4 <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:902280122] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>I ultimately dont really care, but networks have to worry about the image theyre presenting as they also represent their sponsors. Actors are basically at the bottom of that hill, and Roseanne turned her own brand into poison. What bothers me is that people think this is an example of political correctness oppression when its really just market forces holding someone responsible for their actions. I feel bad for all her coworkers, particularly the crew. I dont think your idea is bad, its just not going to save the show because Roseanne is unrepentant. People have a hard enough time forgiving others when theyre genuinely penitent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wasssup Now 05/30/18 9:58:11 PM #30:	Nice post TC <cite>Wasssup Now posted [p:902280154] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>Nice post TC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 05/30/18 9:59:27 PM #31:	Honestly, shit is going way too far now. Syndication brings in a lot of money and removing everything is just fucking over the rest of the people that live off the residuals. All because of one person. People are acting like she killed somebody. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:902280218] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, shit is going way too far now. Syndication brings in a lot of money and removing everything is just fucking over the rest of the people that live off the residuals. All because of one person. People are acting like she killed somebody.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 05/30/18 10:02:40 PM #32:	Roseanne already had an episode about racism. Why rehash old plot lines? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:902280383] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>Roseanne already had an episode about racism. Why rehash old plot lines?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/30/18 10:02:58 PM #33:	LockeMonster posted... Honestly, shit is going way too far now. Syndication brings in a lot of money and removing everything is just fucking over the rest of the people that live off the residuals. All because of one person. People are acting like she killed somebody. That's life. Sometimes 1 person will ruin it for everyone else. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:902280400] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>LockeMonster posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, shit is going way too far now. Syndication brings in a lot of money and removing everything is just fucking over the rest of the people that live off the residuals. All because of one person. People are acting like she killed somebody.</quote> That's life. Sometimes 1 person will ruin it for everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/30/18 10:03:07 PM #34:	LockeMonster posted... Honestly, shit is going way too far now. Syndication brings in a lot of money and removing everything is just fucking over the rest of the people that live off the residuals. All because of one person. People are acting like she killed somebody. im tired of hearing this.."so many people are affected by this"...that's Roseanne's fault. not the networks fault. They don't have to put up with a terrible person or risk losing sponsors because of that terrible person to appease everyone else. and everyone else should be upset at Roseanne, not the network... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:902280406] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>LockeMonster posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, shit is going way too far now. Syndication brings in a lot of money and removing everything is just fucking over the rest of the people that live off the residuals. All because of one person. People are acting like she killed somebody.</quote> im tired of hearing this.."so many people are affected by this"...that's Roseanne's fault. not the networks fault. They don't have to put up with a terrible person or risk losing sponsors because of that terrible person to appease everyone else. and everyone else should be upset at Roseanne, not the network...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 05/30/18 10:05:09 PM #35:	A week ago: the NFL is well within its rights as a business to ban peaceful protest as it is bad for their image Today: networks pulling reruns of Roseanne is basically Soviet/Nazi book burnings and erasure of history, GG tolerant left --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:902280521] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>A week ago: the NFL is well within its rights as a business to ban peaceful protest as it is bad for their image Today: networks pulling reruns of Roseanne is basically Soviet/Nazi book burnings and erasure of history, GG tolerant left</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/30/18 10:05:31 PM #36:	LockeMonster posted... Honestly, shit is going way too far now. Syndication brings in a lot of money and removing everything is just fucking over the rest of the people that live off the residuals. All because of one person. People are acting like she killed somebody. And people like you are acting as if this was some one off thing, as if Roseanne doesn't have a history of this or being a pain in the ass to deal with. ABC is under no obligation to kiss her ass and let her do whatever she wants. You're only worth as much as people are willing to put up with your bullshit, and if she wants to be a Alex Jones type figure that's not going to fly on network television. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:902280533] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>LockeMonster posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, shit is going way too far now. Syndication brings in a lot of money and removing everything is just fucking over the rest of the people that live off the residuals. All because of one person. People are acting like she killed somebody.</quote> And people like you are acting as if this was some one off thing, as if Roseanne doesn't have a history of this or being a pain in the ass to deal with. ABC is under no obligation to kiss her ass and let her do whatever she wants. You're only worth as much as people are willing to put up with your bullshit, and if she wants to be a Alex Jones type figure that's not going to fly on network television.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 05/30/18 10:07:20 PM #37:	TheVipaGTS posted... Hexenherz posted... Not gonna lie I kinda just skipped over your idea originally but I went back and re-read it and that sounds rather mature and not like something anyone would have expected. I don't recall ever seeing that show (except maybe as a kid if my mom or dad watched it), but I would have caught that episode somehow. But what would that do? Lets take an Actor who has said a bunch of offensive and racist shit in her real life, those are her real views and real opinions...then write a script she reads from where her character on TV realizes racism is bad. That isn't going to change Roseanne as a person. that isn't going to change what her real life beliefs are. its the equivalent of a PR Person writing a scripted apology that says "im sorry if i hurt anyone that's not me"...no, it clearly is you and one 30 minute episode on a scripted TV show won't change who you are if several decades on earth haven't.. It's about redemption and actually using the mistake as a legitimate learning tool instead of as a rally point for a national lynch mob. She's not going to change regardless. But we could have taken something positive out of it all. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC / 98/99 Fishing. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:902280615] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Not gonna lie I kinda just skipped over your idea originally but I went back and re-read it and that sounds rather mature and not like something anyone would have expected. I don't recall ever seeing that show (except maybe as a kid if my mom or dad watched it), but I would have caught that episode somehow.</quote> But what would that do? Lets take an Actor who has said a bunch of offensive and racist shit in her real life, those are her real views and real opinions...then write a script she reads from where her character on TV realizes racism is bad. That isn't going to change Roseanne as a person. that isn't going to change what her real life beliefs are. its the equivalent of a PR Person writing a scripted apology that says "im sorry if i hurt anyone that's not me"...no, it clearly is you and one 30 minute episode on a scripted TV show won't change who you are if several decades on earth haven't..</quote> It's about redemption and actually using the mistake as a legitimate learning tool instead of as a rally point for a national lynch mob. She's not going to change regardless. But we could have taken something positive out of it all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 05/30/18 10:07:34 PM #38:	Mr_Biscuit posted... A week ago: the NFL is well within its rights as a business to ban peaceful protest as it is bad for their image Today: networks pulling reruns of Roseanne is basically Soviet/Nazi book burnings and erasure of history, GG tolerant left --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:902280626] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>A week ago: the NFL is well within its rights as a business to ban peaceful protest as it is bad for their image Today: networks pulling reruns of Roseanne is basically Soviet/Nazi book burnings and erasure of history, GG tolerant left</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 05/30/18 10:08:19 PM #39:	I can't understand how some (tied for the plurality right now) people will never forgive her. Have you never done anything wrong? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:902280668] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>I can't understand how some (tied for the plurality right now) people will never forgive her. Have you never done anything wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/30/18 10:09:45 PM #40:	Hexenherz posted... It's about redemption and actually using the mistake as a legitimate learning tool instead of as a rally point for a national lynch mob. But what good is that if... Hexenherz posted... She's not going to change regardless. The people that episode is intended for won't learn a damn thing if the real person behind the character doesn't and continues to spout her usual nonsense...The network doesn't have time for that stupid shit. just wipe your hands clean of her and move on to the next project. Let someone with real morals and values teach the lesson you're trying to teach. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:902280734] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>It's about redemption and actually using the mistake as a legitimate learning tool instead of as a rally point for a national lynch mob.</quote> But what good is that if... <cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>She's not going to change regardless.</quote> The people that episode is intended for won't learn a damn thing if the real person behind the character doesn't and continues to spout her usual nonsense...The network doesn't have time for that stupid shit. just wipe your hands clean of her and move on to the next project. Let someone with real morals and values teach the lesson you're trying to teach.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 05/30/18 10:10:04 PM #41:	Damn_Underscore posted... I can't understand how some (tied for the plurality right now) people will never forgive her. Have you never done anything wrong? I would imagine some people voted that just because of how hilariously dramatic that poll option was --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:902280753] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>I can't understand how some (tied for the plurality right now) people will never forgive her. Have you never done anything wrong?</quote> I would imagine some people voted that just because of how hilariously dramatic that poll option was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 05/30/18 10:10:27 PM #42:	Art and media is filled with scumbags. We celebrate the works not the people. The original series was good. I hope people start complaining about shows that have any music from Chris Brown or John Lennon. We need to hit rock bottom before we as a society can stop the censorship and begin a new renaissance. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:902280764] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>Art and media is filled with scumbags. We celebrate the works not the people. The original series was good. I hope people start complaining about shows that have any music from Chris Brown or John Lennon. We need to hit rock bottom before we as a society can stop the censorship and begin a new renaissance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/30/18 10:10:32 PM #43:	Damn_Underscore posted... I can't understand how some (tied for the plurality right now) people will never forgive her. Have you never done anything wrong? I've never called a person of color a primate, no --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:902280769] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>I can't understand how some (tied for the plurality right now) people will never forgive her. Have you never done anything wrong?</quote> I've never called a person of color a primate, no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 05/30/18 10:12:43 PM #44:	You need to learn how to forgive. People who are truly sorry deserve forgiveness. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:902280879] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>You need to learn how to forgive. People who are truly sorry deserve forgiveness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 05/30/18 10:13:21 PM #45:	Tmaster148 posted... That's life. Sometimes 1 person will ruin it for everyone else. Um no. Not caring about the tons of cast members to out a racist is extremely fucked up. TheVipaGTS posted... im tired of hearing this.."so many people are affected by this"...that's Roseanne's fault. not the networks fault. They don't have to put up with a terrible person or risk losing sponsors because of that terrible person to appease everyone else. and everyone else should be upset at Roseanne, not the network What? I'm not referring to ABC. I'm referring to the syndication deals. They're fucking over the livelihoods of other people to erase a show from the 90s, which is unrelated to her BS now. Are y'all really that fucked up to think it's ok to fuck over everybody because some shithead is being racist? IT DID NOT HURT ANYONE. This is a fucked up type of retaliation. The Great Muta 22 posted... And people like you are acting as if this was some one off thing, as if Roseanne doesn't have a history of this or being a pain in the ass to deal with. ABC is under no obligation to kiss her ass and let her do whatever she wants. You're only worth as much as people are willing to put up with your bullshit, and if she wants to be a Alex Jones type figure that's not going to fly on network television. I'm not talking about ABC or them cancelling the current show. I 100% agree with that much. It's a nightmare to damage control that. The old show however brings in tons of money from syndication, which brings food on the table of all the people who get royalties from it. Because you have one racist shitbag doesn't mean you take it out on everybody else. That's extremely disturbing. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:902280912] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>That's life. Sometimes 1 person will ruin it for everyone else.</quote> Um no. Not caring about the tons of cast members to out a racist is extremely fucked up. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>im tired of hearing this.."so many people are affected by this"...that's Roseanne's fault. not the networks fault. They don't have to put up with a terrible person or risk losing sponsors because of that terrible person to appease everyone else. and everyone else should be upset at Roseanne, not the network</quote> What? I'm not referring to ABC. I'm referring to the syndication deals. They're fucking over the livelihoods of other people to erase a show from the 90s, which is unrelated to her BS now. Are y'all really that fucked up to think it's ok to fuck over everybody because some shithead is being racist? IT DID NOT HURT ANYONE. This is a fucked up type of retaliation. <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>And people like you are acting as if this was some one off thing, as if Roseanne doesn't have a history of this or being a pain in the ass to deal with. ABC is under no obligation to kiss her ass and let her do whatever she wants. You're only worth as much as people are willing to put up with your bullshit, and if she wants to be a Alex Jones type figure that's not going to fly on network television.</quote> I'm not talking about ABC or them cancelling the current show. I 100% agree with that much. It's a nightmare to damage control that. The old show however brings in tons of money from syndication, which brings food on the table of all the people who get royalties from it. Because you have one racist shitbag doesn't mean you take it out on everybody else. That's extremely disturbing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 05/30/18 10:13:36 PM #46:	it's crazy to me how swiftly this is all happening --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:902280931] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>it's crazy to me how swiftly this is all happening</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 05/30/18 10:14:19 PM #47:	If you're conservative, how do you make such a stupid mistake like that? Media is liberal run, and everyone jumps at you for making any kind of offensive joke. You should know better than to say such things. You want to take that risk, always direct it at Trump. They'll force an apology from you at most, and you'll be on your way. Look at what's the comedian who had a photo of her holding Trump's head? She's still kicking last I checked. In any case, yeah it's super excessive TC. These things are only going to segregate the country further as no one is starting a conversation to find out why X thinks in such a way or why Z feels this way about G people. So each group is going to be in their echo chamber and double down on their beliefs. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:902280967] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>If you're conservative, how do you make such a stupid mistake like that? Media is liberal run, and everyone jumps at you for making any kind of offensive joke. You should know better than to say such things. You want to take that risk, always direct it at Trump. They'll force an apology from you at most, and you'll be on your way. Look at what's the comedian who had a photo of her holding Trump's head? She's still kicking last I checked. In any case, yeah it's super excessive TC. These things are only going to segregate the country further as no one is starting a conversation to find out why X thinks in such a way or why Z feels this way about G people. So each group is going to be in their echo chamber and double down on their beliefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 05/30/18 10:14:42 PM #48:	Bishop9800 posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... A week ago: the NFL is well within its rights as a business to ban peaceful protest as it is bad for their image Today: networks pulling reruns of Roseanne is basically Soviet/Nazi book burnings and erasure of history, GG tolerant left --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:902280982] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote> A week ago: the NFL is well within its rights as a business to ban peaceful protest as it is bad for their image Today: networks pulling reruns of Roseanne is basically Soviet/Nazi book burnings and erasure of history, GG tolerant left</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guerrilla Soldier 05/30/18 10:14:46 PM #49:	first, lets just be straight up racist on television. lets just put it out there. lets let everyone watch racism unfold before our very eyes. think of the ratings! secondly, let's make excuses for why what happened was actually ok. lastly, let's all think like this Caution999 posted... I mean, shit, if I sat on the beach this weekend, I may end up looking more black than VJ. No offense. because, hell, none of this will make things worse. it will actually make things better! --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>Guerrilla Soldier posted [p:902280988] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote>first, lets just be straight up racist on television. lets just put it out there. lets let everyone watch racism unfold before our very eyes. think of the ratings! secondly, let's make excuses for why what happened was actually ok. lastly, let's all think like this <cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, shit, if I sat on the beach this weekend, I may end up looking more black than VJ. No offense.</quote> because, hell, none of this will make things worse. it will actually make things better!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/30/18 10:15:46 PM #50:	LockeMonster posted... What? I'm not referring to ABC. I'm referring to the syndication deals. They're fucking over the livelihoods of other people to erase a show from the 90s, which is unrelated to her BS now. Again, the syndication deals are the same thing. Those even more so rely on Advertisements. And if the Network doesn't want to worry about those Ads because of what she said, they have to make a move...That is still Roseanne's fault. There is no one else to blame here for anything but Roseanne. Anyone affected by this, Cast, Crew, those earning residuals, have only ONE person to blame...Roseanne. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:902281034] in So, networ... [t:76659859]...</cite> <quote><cite>LockeMonster posted...</cite> <quote>What? I'm not referring to ABC. I'm referring to the syndication deals. They're fucking over the livelihoods of other people to erase a show from the 90s, which is unrelated to her BS now. </quote> Again, the syndication deals are the same thing. Those even more so rely on Advertisements. And if the Network doesn't want to worry about those Ads because of what she said, they have to make a move...That is still Roseanne's fault. There is no one else to blame here for anything but Roseanne. Anyone affected by this, Cast, Crew, those earning residuals, have only ONE person to blame...Roseanne.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > So, networks are now removing Roseanne's re-runs from their lineups. Too far?