Current Events > So, networks are now removing Roseanne's re-runs from their lineups. Too far?

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The Great Muta 22
05/30/18 10:18:53 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
You need to learn how to forgive.

People who are truly sorry deserve forgiveness.


If she was truly sorry she wouldn't be retweeting things defending it last night after her "apology". She doesn't have a single regret for what she said, she's just pissy it blew up and cost her money and her reputation. Fuck her
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Caution999
05/30/18 10:20:57 PM
#52:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
You need to learn how to forgive.

People who are truly sorry deserve forgiveness.


If she was truly sorry she wouldn't be retweeting things defending it last night after her "apology". She doesn't have a single regret for what she said, she's just pissy it blew up and cost her money and her reputation. Fuck her


She did apologize and it was a huge mistake. Nobody gave a fuck. So, now shes gonna fight it. You havent left her with much of an option here
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Tmaster148
05/30/18 10:21:48 PM
#53:


Caution999 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
You need to learn how to forgive.

People who are truly sorry deserve forgiveness.


If she was truly sorry she wouldn't be retweeting things defending it last night after her "apology". She doesn't have a single regret for what she said, she's just pissy it blew up and cost her money and her reputation. Fuck her


She did apologize and it was a huge mistake. Nobody gave a fuck. So, now shes gonna fight it. You havent left her with much of an option here


You mean how she back tracked a few times until she eventually apologized cuz no one was buying it was "just a joke" or that "she didn't know the person was black".
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LockeMonster
05/30/18 10:22:03 PM
#54:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Again, the syndication deals are the same thing. Those even more so rely on Advertisements. And if the Network doesn't want to worry about those Ads because of what she said, they have to make a move...

No they're not the same thing. It's done with. It's a show from the 90s. People change or turn into racists later. By this logic, we need to erase everything any accused celebrity has appeared in, and that's going down a horrible hole.

TheVipaGTS posted...
That is still Roseanne's fault. There is no one else to blame here for anything but Roseanne. Anyone affected by this, Cast, Crew, those earning residuals, have only ONE person to blame...Roseanne.

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No fucking shit Sherlock. I said that. My point is that it's fucked up that these networks are retaliating in such a way. Why do I still see Kevin Spacey movies on TV all the fucking time? Or movies made by Weinstein on these very same channels when they did worse?

This is an overreaction seeped with virtue signaling.
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TrevorBlack79
05/30/18 10:23:01 PM
#55:


Reading Caution's posts in Cartman's voice has made him much more entertaining. This post, for example:

Caution999 posted...
Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here.


Pure gold.
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TheVipaGTS
05/30/18 10:24:10 PM
#56:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Reading Caution's posts in Cartman's voice has made him much more entertaining. This post, for example:

Caution999 posted...
Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here.


Pure gold.

i actually laughed out loud...
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The Great Muta 22
05/30/18 10:24:23 PM
#57:


Caution999 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
You need to learn how to forgive.

People who are truly sorry deserve forgiveness.


If she was truly sorry she wouldn't be retweeting things defending it last night after her "apology". She doesn't have a single regret for what she said, she's just pissy it blew up and cost her money and her reputation. Fuck her


She did apologize and it was a huge mistake. Nobody gave a fuck. So, now shes gonna fight it. You havent left her with much of an option here


Because it was transparently fake to the point that anyone could see it. If she actually was seriously apologizing she wouldn't backtrack in 12 hours because "people were being MEAN to her!!!". Unless she lacks any sense of a fucking spine.
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A_Good_Boy
05/30/18 10:24:42 PM
#58:


TheVipaGTS posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Reading Caution's posts in Cartman's voice has made him much more entertaining. This post, for example:

Caution999 posted...
Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here.


Pure gold.

i actually laughed out loud...

Yeah me too
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Vertania
05/30/18 10:26:23 PM
#60:


Eat More Beef posted...
Funny, I didn't see you make this kind of statement when Kathy Griffin had an decapitated head of an effigy of Trump... in fact, most Conservatives were happy to throw her to the wolves.

Where was your "teachable moment" and "she's just a comedian" rants during that, huh?

You gotta get some consistency on these issues, Caution, otherwise your bias speaks all I need to know.

It seems to me like the conservative backlash against celebrity stunts like Griffin's is less about being outraged and more about having a chance to call out the liberals.

Voicing anything deemed too offensive to the left has a history of leading to ruined careers and reputations. Meanwhile, Hollywood, the MSM, and social media can have their "shit on conservatives" circlejerk every day without many real consequences.

I don't think most conservatives want more consequences for the expression of thoughts and beliefs, they just want a more even playing field.
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Soviet_Poland
05/30/18 10:28:32 PM
#61:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Reading Caution's posts in Cartman's voice has made him much more entertaining. This post, for example:

Caution999 posted...
Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here.


Pure gold.


I'm dyinggggggg right now
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Bishop9800
05/30/18 10:29:25 PM
#62:


A_Good_Boy posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Reading Caution's posts in Cartman's voice has made him much more entertaining. This post, for example:

Caution999 posted...
Excuse me: Did Kathy Griffin have the highest rated TV show in primetime? That's the KEY component of my argument here.


Pure gold.

i actually laughed out loud...

Yeah me too


OMG, this is hilarious
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Damn_Underscore
05/30/18 10:32:45 PM
#63:


The first option says she should NEVER be forgiven

The second option says she should be forgiven if she changes going forward, but the first option has more votes
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thrashmetal14
05/30/18 10:32:49 PM
#64:


I don't really think it's "going too far". If there aren't any networks willing to take the risk of picking it up, then that's just how the free market works. Nothing wrong with that.
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EverDownward
05/30/18 10:33:52 PM
#65:


They are actually erasing her from history. That's some intense shit.
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The Great Muta 22
05/30/18 10:41:13 PM
#66:


EverDownward posted...
They are actually erasing her from history. That's some intense shit.


She attacked Soros. It was dictated down from our masters. She must be eliminated. I need scissors, 61!
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EverDownward
05/30/18 10:42:04 PM
#67:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
EverDownward posted...
They are actually erasing her from history. That's some intense shit.


She attacked Soros. It was dictated down from our masters. She must be eliminated. I need scissors, 61!

I mean, the media is going pretty far to erase her career.
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StanZarnack
05/30/18 10:42:23 PM
#68:


good, take the racist shit off.
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TrevorBlack79
05/30/18 11:06:21 PM
#69:


@Caution999 Can I sig that quote?
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Caution999
05/30/18 11:07:42 PM
#70:


You can sig whatever you want. I won't be offended by a joke.
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Mr_Biscuit
05/30/18 11:12:01 PM
#72:


Caution999 posted...
You can sig whatever you want. I won't be offended by a joke.

Subtle
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Caution999
05/30/18 11:20:30 PM
#73:


Spooking posted...
You can always buy the DVD box set of Roseanne on Amazon. Great price for a hilarious show.


I was actually gonna do that next.
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008Zulu
05/30/18 11:22:27 PM
#74:


Pure awesome;

https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/05/30/barr-blames-ambien-tweet-drug-maker-replies/
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Caution999
05/30/18 11:25:55 PM
#75:


Side Effects for Ambien:

Insomnia
Aggression
Confusion
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Darmik
05/30/18 11:26:39 PM
#76:


Why should ABC reward Roseanne with more money and publicity because she did the wrong thing?

I doubt the syndication thing is a big deal either. They'll be showing somewhere else eventually.

I don't usually see Roseanne on syndication in general thinking about it.
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Hicks233
05/30/18 11:35:36 PM
#77:


We've always been at war with Eastasia... etc. etc.

If they smell that they can make some money off it in the future they'll quietly re-syndicate. They do their virtue signalling now but they're predictable in their hunger for profit above all.
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The Great Muta 22
05/30/18 11:36:38 PM
#78:


Caution999 posted...
Side Effects for Ambien:

Insomnia
Aggression
Confusion


So not Racism? Got it.

And as someone who has taken ambien before for insomnia almost a decade ago, it never made me want to racially shit post. But hey, maybe it hit her harder. Or maybe she mixed it with vodka, I don't know
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wdlp
05/30/18 11:54:24 PM
#79:


It's a shame about all the people who were gonna work on the show
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Bishop9800
05/31/18 12:06:47 AM
#80:


Caution999 posted...
Side Effects for Ambien:

Insomnia
Aggression
Confusion


why are you making excuses for her?
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Phantom_Nook
05/31/18 12:10:17 AM
#81:


I'm fine with cancelling the show because she's a piece of shit, but not sure how I feel about them pulling the show from syndication and streaming.
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TheVipaGTS
05/31/18 12:11:30 AM
#82:


Phantom_Nook posted...
I'm fine with cancelling the show because she's a piece of shit, but not sure how I feel about them pulling the show from syndication and streaming.

i mean the same thing happened to Cosby.
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LockeMonster
05/31/18 12:16:46 AM
#83:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
I'm fine with cancelling the show because she's a piece of shit, but not sure how I feel about them pulling the show from syndication and streaming.

i mean the same thing happened to Cosby.

No it didn't. DirectTV shows several channels still airing it. Only TV Land and another network got rid of it.
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TheVipaGTS
05/31/18 12:19:17 AM
#84:


LockeMonster posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
I'm fine with cancelling the show because she's a piece of shit, but not sure how I feel about them pulling the show from syndication and streaming.

i mean the same thing happened to Cosby.

No it didn't. DirectTV shows several channels still airing it. Only TV Land and another network got rid of it.

But several networks still got rid of it. this wasn't a mass removal that the FCC demanded or something. It was a personal choice of the networks. no different from this situation. we used to have like 3 networks Cosby was on multiple times a day. none of them show it anymore. Personally i can't even remember the last network i even saw a Roseanne rerun on.
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Snack
05/31/18 12:20:36 AM
#86:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Caution, you don't think you are too emotionally invested in this story, do you? I'm not being snarky right now.

Its Caution...he's always melting down over something.

It is in his name
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LockeMonster
05/31/18 12:20:49 AM
#87:


TheVipaGTS posted...
LockeMonster posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
I'm fine with cancelling the show because she's a piece of shit, but not sure how I feel about them pulling the show from syndication and streaming.

i mean the same thing happened to Cosby.

No it didn't. DirectTV shows several channels still airing it. Only TV Land and another network got rid of it.

But several networks still got rid of it. this wasn't a mass removal that the FCC demanded or something. It was a personal choice of the networks. no different from this situation.

2 networks out of 7 or 8 in the US doesn't mean much.

And he was 100x worse than her.

Here they're pretty much not only gone from all networks but streaming too.
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Darmik
05/31/18 12:43:20 AM
#88:


LockeMonster posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
LockeMonster posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
I'm fine with cancelling the show because she's a piece of shit, but not sure how I feel about them pulling the show from syndication and streaming.

i mean the same thing happened to Cosby.

No it didn't. DirectTV shows several channels still airing it. Only TV Land and another network got rid of it.

But several networks still got rid of it. this wasn't a mass removal that the FCC demanded or something. It was a personal choice of the networks. no different from this situation.

2 networks out of 7 or 8 in the US doesn't mean much.

And he was 100x worse than her.

Here they're pretty much not only gone from all networks but streaming too.


What networks and online streaming services have removed Roseanne in the last couple of days?
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Vertania
05/31/18 12:48:29 AM
#89:


I'm gonna be that kind of asshole and quote myself:
Vertania posted...
It seems to me like the conservative backlash against celebrity stunts like Griffin's is less about being outraged and more about having a chance to call out the liberals.

Voicing anything deemed too offensive to the left has a history of leading to ruined careers and reputations. Meanwhile, Hollywood, the MSM, and social media can have their "shit on conservatives" circlejerk every day without many real consequences.

I don't think most conservatives want more consequences for the expression of thoughts and beliefs, they just want a more even playing field.

Thought I had a point there, but it got passed over.
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LockeMonster
05/31/18 12:52:03 AM
#90:


Darmik posted...
What networks and online streaming services have removed Roseanne in the last couple of days?

The list is in the other topic about this. Several networks and Hulu at least.
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daftpunk_mk5
05/31/18 12:53:19 AM
#91:


tldr but fuck roseanne

filthy liberal piece of shit with no morals
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TheVipaGTS
05/31/18 12:53:22 AM
#92:


Vertania posted...
Thought I had a point there, but it got passed over.

it didn't get passed over, its just wrong. So they used the Kathy Griffin situation to point out liberal hypocrisy....Even though the outcome of that situation was the same as we saw today? Liberals and Conservatives both called her out (well that part wasn't the same as today since it seems only one side is calling Roseanne out...), she lost sponsors and it hurt her career...Hell many of the liberals right here on CE (myself included) thought she went too far and had no problem with her facing backlash. I mean if you want to try and make whatever point it is you're trying to make, that situation isn't really helping you...

Conservatives weren't just using that situation to make a point...they were truly outraged over it (as they should have been)
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Dash_Harber
05/31/18 12:54:10 AM
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It's not too far. People don't feel comfortable supporting her right now. It'll cool off eventually and the show will return. Shows actually go off networks all the time and rotate out for other shows. They are just doing it now so things can cool down.
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DemonBuffet
05/31/18 12:54:25 AM
#94:


You decide how you make your own bed. Because in the end, youre the one thats gonna sleep in it.
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Darmik
05/31/18 12:54:48 AM
#95:


LockeMonster posted...
Darmik posted...
What networks and online streaming services have removed Roseanne in the last couple of days?

The list is in the other topic about this. Several networks and Hulu at least.


Isn't Hulu owned by ABC/Disney? So that would be a factor there that differs it from Cosby.
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LockeMonster
05/31/18 12:56:29 AM
#96:


Darmik posted...
Isn't Hulu owned by ABC/Disney? So that would be a factor there that differs it from Cosby

No, it's owned by all 4 of the largest media conglomerates on Earth

Also Cosby drugged and raped women while she was acting racist. Logically, he should have been completely wiped first.
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TheVipaGTS
05/31/18 12:57:36 AM
#97:


LockeMonster posted...
Darmik posted...
Isn't Hulu owned by ABC/Disney? So that would be a factor there that differs it from Cosby

No, it's owned by all 4 of the largest media conglomerates on Earth.

And Disney/ABC is one of them. They'll also be getting Fox's chunk of it when their deal goes through later this year and I'm sure Fox, wanting that deal to go through, is willing to help them out here. Disney is the majority owner of Hulu...
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LockeMonster
05/31/18 12:58:40 AM
#98:


TheVipaGTS posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Darmik posted...
Isn't Hulu owned by ABC/Disney? So that would be a factor there that differs it from Cosby

No, it's owned by all 4 of the largest media conglomerates on Earth.

And Disney/ABC is one of them. They'll also be getting Fox's chunk of it when their deal goes through later this year.

They have 30% and Comcast is the other owner who pretty much goes against everything they do and is in a bidding war against them.

Let's not try to make excuses here.
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LockeMonster
05/31/18 12:59:40 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
is willing to help them out here. Disney is the majority owner of Hulu...

No, they are not and the Fox deal is not final till Fall 2019.
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TheVipaGTS
05/31/18 1:00:57 AM
#100:


LockeMonster posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Darmik posted...
Isn't Hulu owned by ABC/Disney? So that would be a factor there that differs it from Cosby

No, it's owned by all 4 of the largest media conglomerates on Earth.

And Disney/ABC is one of them. They'll also be getting Fox's chunk of it when their deal goes through later this year.

They have 30% and Comcast is the other owner who pretty much goes against everything they do and is in a bidding war against them.

Let's not try to make excuses here.

There are more than 2 owners. Disney currently holds 30% and will obtain another 30% from Fox, giving them 60% and majority ownership of Hulu. Fox wants that deal to go through with Disney so it would be stupid of them to say "now hold on now we still own 30% right now"....Come on dude...Fox and Disney are obviously in a partnership...

And even without that Disney still owns 30% of it. Its not absurd for them to want to pull it from Hulu
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