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LinkPizza 06/01/18 11:00:49 AM #1: |
I just learned that some of the people in Hawaii were told(or strongly advised is dome areas) to evacuate, or they could possibly face arrest. That's all...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hawaii-volcano-prompts-new-warning-heed-evacuation-order-or-face-arrest/ar-AAy6hhz?ocid=spartandhp --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/01/18 11:08:18 AM #2: |
I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property.
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Kyuubi4269 06/01/18 11:14:36 AM #3: |
Jen0125 posted...
I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property. I don't understand why people won't play five finger fillet. They're just fingers. Homes are serious business, if I bought a home and somebody wanted me to surrender it, I'd rather die too. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 06/01/18 11:14:36 AM #4: |
If I thought lava was coming I would grab my wife and my dogs and leave.
I have very few defenses against lava. I could pee on it but I dont think that would really do anything. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Miroku_of_Nite1 06/01/18 11:26:29 AM #5: |
Jen0125 posted...
I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property. They probably can't get volcano insurance on their homes/property. Basically their whole life is tied up in that land and they don't want to leave it and never come back. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeeVees 06/01/18 11:31:34 AM #6: |
I don't understand why you need to force people to evacuate. If people want to die then let them.
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Kyuubi4269 06/01/18 11:34:08 AM #7: |
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SunWuKung420 06/01/18 11:34:43 AM #8: |
I wouldn't have built my home in the shadow of a volcano to begin with.
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Jen0125 06/01/18 11:37:43 AM #9: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property. Jeez, just get some fucking insurance it's not that serious. You can get a new home. You can't get new fingers. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/01/18 11:38:05 AM #10: |
Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
Jen0125 posted...I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property. It would be covered under your homeowners insurance because it's fire related. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 06/01/18 11:40:35 AM #11: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
I wouldn't have built my home in the shadow of a volcano to begin with. With your logic we need to evacuate a huge chunk of the US population because they live in tornado alley. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Tornado_Alley.svg/1280px-Tornado_Alley.svg.png These ones. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 06/01/18 11:44:26 AM #12: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...I wouldn't have built my home in the shadow of a volcano to begin with. Yup. Post a common flood plains picture also. --- PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Miroku_of_Nite1 06/01/18 12:04:09 PM #13: |
Jen0125 posted...
Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...Jen0125 posted...I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property. Probably not in the case since it would be in a high risk zone. I got some coworkers who live in a area designated as a flood plain and they cant get flood insurance because of it. https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/us/volcano-insurance-hawaii-homeowners/index.html "It's not something that would be offered by many insurers," he said. "People who live in designated USGS lava zoned areas, trying to get coverage would be difficult. For insurer's perspective, it's what we call anti-selection -- the risk is just too high. The people who are buying [houses there] realize they live in a risk area." --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 06/01/18 12:22:55 PM #14: |
Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...Jen0125 posted...I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property. Well, real fingers. But there are some nice prosthetics... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/01/18 12:28:55 PM #15: |
Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
Jen0125 posted...Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...Jen0125 posted...I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property. There's national flood insurance provided by the government so they're not telling the truth. I would be willing to wager there is something similar for people who live in areas near volcanoes as well. And even if there isn't insurance your life and the lives of your family aren't worth a stupid house. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 06/01/18 1:00:46 PM #16: |
VeeVees posted...
I don't understand why you need to force people to evacuate. If people want to die then let them. I agree with this. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 06/01/18 1:09:10 PM #17: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
I wouldn't have built my home in the shadow of a volcano to begin with. You couldnt build a treehouse --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 06/01/18 1:11:36 PM #18: |
Jen0125 posted...
I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property. As I understand it, it's mostly a matter of wanting to deter looters. Obviously, being looted doesn't matter much if everything's going to burn up anyway, but I'm guessing people are holding themselves to a different risk threshold for that than the government has for issuing evacuation orders. That said, saying "evacuate or be arrested" and barring anyone from entering the zone does conveniently eliminate the risk of looting, so that shouldn't be a concern anymore. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 06/01/18 1:16:16 PM #19: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
*throws salt at mead* --- PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 06/01/18 1:57:39 PM #20: |
the government can force you to leave an area if it's severe enough
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Ogurisama 06/01/18 2:10:38 PM #21: |
As soon as the first evacuation orders started coming, i would have started to pack my most important stuff.
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SunWuKung420 06/01/18 2:12:40 PM #22: |
Ogurisama posted...
As soon as the first evacuation orders started coming, i would have started to pack my most important stuff. As soon as the island started spewing lava from the streets, I would have started my exfil of Hawaii. --- PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ogurisama 06/01/18 2:14:55 PM #23: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Ogurisama posted...As soon as the first evacuation orders started coming, i would have started to pack my most important stuff. You could literally go to the other side of the island and not even notice there is an eruption --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 06/01/18 2:16:09 PM #24: |
Ogurisama posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...Ogurisama posted...As soon as the first evacuation orders started coming, i would have started to pack my most important stuff. Not if you have to go through lava to get there --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 06/01/18 2:19:59 PM #25: |
It is what it is. And it's arguably less arbitrary than certain building codes that also (ostentatiously) exist to protect the public against itself. The worst was in the UK where they tore down that farmer's castle
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/17/englishmans-castle-robert-fidler-demolition-folly adjl posted... That said, saying "evacuate or be arrested" and barring anyone from entering the zone does conveniently eliminate the risk of looting, so that shouldn't be a concern anymore. It *reduces* the risk, it doesn't eliminate it. Looters can always find a way around it. Kyuubi4269 posted... SunWuKung420 posted...I wouldn't have built my home in the shadow of a volcano to begin with. idk, with tornadoes you can just build underground. *Nothing* is going to save you from a volcano except not being anywhere near it. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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captpackrat 06/01/18 3:24:03 PM #26: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...I wouldn't have built my home in the shadow of a volcano to begin with. The thing you have to remember about tornadoes is that odds of being hit by one are REALLY tiny, even in the heart of Tornado Alley. Tonight in Nebraska they're predicting a 5% chance of a tornado. But that's within 25 miles (40 km) of any given point, which comes out to 1963.5 square miles (5085 sq km)! So there's only a 1 in 20 chance that a tornado, probably only 70 or 80 yards/meters wide, will touch down somewhere within nearly 2,000 square miles. Even if the chances were 100% for a tornado the odds are I'd still never even see it. And the vast majority of tornadoes are EF0, with a wind gusts of less than 85 MPH (137 KPH) which would likely cause only superficial damage to properly-built structures. Only 21 people have been killed by EF0 tornadoes in the past 65 years. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvilMegas 06/01/18 3:24:49 PM #27: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...I don't understand people who won't evacuate in these types of situations. It's just property. God this was a dumb post. Bravo. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 06/01/18 3:59:14 PM #28: |
captpackrat posted...
The thing you have to remember about tornadoes is that odds of being hit by one are REALLY tiny, even in the heart of Tornado Alley. I would think that a volcanic eruption has less chance of happening than a tornado. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 06/01/18 4:30:12 PM #29: |
Zeus posted...
idk, with tornadoes you can just build underground. *Nothing* is going to save you from a volcano except not being anywhere near it. Can you not go underground for a volcano? I mean the lava isn't digging. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dikitain 06/01/18 4:35:50 PM #30: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Zeus posted...idk, with tornadoes you can just build underground. *Nothing* is going to save you from a volcano except not being anywhere near it. Assuming you don't burn alive from lava covering your house, how do you plan to get out from under a foot of molten rock? Can't move it while it is warm because it will melt pretty much anything it touches, and can't move it once it is cooled because it is literally a foot of solid rock at that point. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvilMegas 06/01/18 5:09:16 PM #31: |
You gave him a serious answer, lmao
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adjl 06/01/18 7:15:23 PM #32: |
Zeus posted...
It *reduces* the risk, it doesn't eliminate it. Looters can always find a way around it. Arresting anyone in the area on sight is a pretty sizable reduction. It certainly reduces it to the point where "your house will be intact and looters will have taken your stuff when you return" is a smaller risk than "your house will be buried by lava and you will die." --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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captpackrat 06/01/18 10:07:56 PM #33: |
Revelation34 posted...
I would think that a volcanic eruption has less chance of happening than a tornado. You'd be surprised how many volcanoes there are in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_volcanoes_in_the_United_States Mount Rainier is considered one of the most dangerous volcanoes in the world and could produce a massive lahar that would threaten millions in the Seattle-Tacoma area and the ash could cause disruptions from San Francisco to Vancouver. And then there are the supervolcanos like the Long Valley Caldera or the Yellowstone Caldera, which could erupt with the force of 1000 Mount St. Helens ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 06/01/18 10:16:31 PM #34: |
captpackrat posted...
Revelation34 posted...I would think that a volcanic eruption has less chance of happening than a tornado. There's the colima volcano that has been active since 2013. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volc%C3%A1n_de_Colima But, typically, tornados cause more damage yearly. --- PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 06/02/18 11:28:00 AM #35: |
captpackrat posted...
Revelation34 posted...I would think that a volcanic eruption has less chance of happening than a tornado. Ok? That still doesn't take away from what I said. Volcanoes erupt like once every so often. Tornadoes happen yearly. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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