Board 8 > Best of the Trope Day 8: Adaptational Hero & Adaptational Villain

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Johnbobb
06/02/18 10:24:10 PM
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Yesterday's Results:
Ripley - 7
Erin - 4
Laurie Strode - 1
Thomasin - 1
Amanda Young - 1
Sam - 1
Emporio Alnio - 1
Suzy Bannion -1
Nancy Thompson - 1
Katniss Everdeen - 1
Dutch - 1
Miss Justineau - 1

Vote for UP TO THREE CHARACTERS you think best embody the trope of the day (or just for your favorite characters that fit the trope). Feel free to change your vote, but if you do just specify who you're changing from and changing to. Try to include the source the character's from.

Feel free to nominate tropes for future days, preferably ones that have TV Tropes pages to make it easier. Day will end in 24 hours or so.

Full Results
Fat Best Friend - Samwise Gamgee (Lord of the Rings)
Creepy Child - Wednesday Addams (The Addams Family)
Genre Savvy - Abed Nadir (Community)
Wrong Genre Savvy - Don Quixote (Don Quixote)
Enemy Outside - Piccolo (Dragonball Z)
Ascended Extra - Harley Quinn (Batman)
Final Girl - Ellen Ripley (Aliens)

Nominations
The Fool
Final Girl
Monster Clown
Human Punching Bag
Tomboy & Girly Girl
Gentle Giant
Invincible Hero
Messianic Archetype (Christ Figure)
Bare-Fisted Monk
Ensemble Dark Horse
Your Size May Vary

Today's trope is the Adaptational Heroes and Villlains
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AdaptationalHeroism
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AdaptationalVillainy

Adaptational Villain:
The villain of an adaptation or retelling of a story that wasn't as bad in the source material.

Adaptational Hero:
The hero of an adaptation or retelling of a story that wasn't as heroic in the source material.


Note: For today, you may vote for up to 3 of each of the two categories. They don't have to be related.
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scarletspeed7
06/02/18 10:26:43 PM
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Iron Man (MCU)
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Johnbobb
06/02/18 10:34:28 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
Iron Man (MCU)

For Hero or Villain? (I assume Hero but as a rule of thumb it might be best to specify)
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scarletspeed7
06/02/18 10:35:35 PM
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For Villain. He caused every problem in the MCU.
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Johnbobb
06/02/18 10:38:33 PM
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Adaptational Hero:
Tyrion Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Rumplestiltskin (Once Upon a Time)
Terra (Teen Titans)


HM:
Jaime Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Hercules (Disney's Hercules)
Sandman (Spider-Man 3)
Deadpool (Deadpool)
Mystique (X-Men: First Class)
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Johnbobb
06/02/18 10:40:38 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
For Villain. He caused every problem in the MCU.

oh so he's worse in the movies than in the comics?
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scarletspeed7
06/02/18 10:40:57 PM
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Except for one year of comics yes.
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Snake5555555555
06/02/18 10:55:01 PM
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Adaptational Hero
Mick Rory (Legends of Tomorrow)
Anatoli Knyazev (Arrow)
Bigby Wolf (Fables)

Adaptational Villain
Barbara Kean (Gotham)
The Batman Who Laughs (Dark Nights: Metal)
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Johnbobb
06/02/18 10:58:43 PM
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Adaptational Villain:
King Dedede (Kirby: Right Back At Ya!)
Judge Claude Frollo (The Hunchback of Notre Dame)
The Monster (every adaptation of Frankenstein ever)


HM:
Clayton (Tarzan)
HAL-9000 (2001: A Space Odyssey)
Hades (God of War & Disney's Hercules)
Jack Torrance (The Shining)
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Johnbobb
06/02/18 11:00:42 PM
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For anyone having trouble with this one (the trope pages make it a lot to take in) think adaptations that take big liberties from their source material for the best examples.

Things like superhero movies/shows that change things from the comics, Disney movies adapting old stories, etc.
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Snake5555555555
06/02/18 11:03:58 PM
#11:


Johnbobb posted...
Jack Torrance (The Shining)


Good choice for my 3rd adaptational villain.
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azuarc
06/02/18 11:17:04 PM
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Johnbobb posted...
Adaptational Villain:
The Monster (every adaptation of Frankenstein ever)


Seconding.

Adaptational Hero:
Mickey Mouse
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TexWolf_1729
06/02/18 11:20:28 PM
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Adaptational Hero:
Tyrion Lannister (Game of Thrones)

Adaptational Villain:
Arlo Givens (Justified)
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Shonen_Bat
06/02/18 11:34:46 PM
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Adaptational Hero:
Terra (Teen Titans)
Hercules (Disney's Hercules)
Bigby Wolf (Fables)

Adaptational Villain:
Judge Claude Frollo (The Hunchback of Notre Dame)
Hades (God of War & Disney's Hercules)
King Dedede (Kirby: Right Back At Ya!)
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Mega Mana
06/02/18 11:44:18 PM
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Adaptational Hero:
Bronn (Game of Thrones)
Bigby Wolf (Fables)

Adaptaional Villainy:
Ultimate Reed Richards (Marvel Comics)
Mr. Popo (DBZ Abridged)

Couldn't think of a third for either
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trdl23
06/03/18 1:54:22 AM
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Hero:
Bigby Wolf (Fables)

Villain:
Gepetto (Fables)
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Johnbobb
06/03/18 6:17:05 AM
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GavsEvans123
06/03/18 7:15:04 AM
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Adaptational Hero:
Mystique (X-Men: First Class, Days of Future Past and Apocalypse)
Zeus (Disney's Hercules)
Nemesis (Resident Evil Apocalypse)

Adaptational Villain:
Zangief (Street Fighter: The Movie, Street Fighter: The Animated Series, Street Fighter Alpha: The Animated Movie, Wreck It Ralph, and probably a few others)
Frankenstein's Monster (Every Frankenstein adaptation ever)
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Johnbobb
06/03/18 10:15:34 AM
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Johnbobb posted...
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Johnbobb
06/03/18 3:12:38 PM
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Heroes
Bigby Wolf - 4
Tyrion Lannister - 2
Terra - 2
Rumpelstiltskin - 1
Mick Rory - 1
Anatoli Knyazev - 1
Mickey Mouse - 1
Hercules - 1
Bronn - 1
Mystique - 1
Zeus - 1
Nemesis -1

Villains
Frankenstein's Monster - 3
King Dedede - 2
Judge Claude Frollo - 2
Mr. Popo - 2
Iron Man - 1
The Batman Who Laughs - 1
Barbara Kean - 1
Jack Torrance - 1
Arlo Givens - 1
Hades - 1
Ultimate Reed Richards - 1
Gepetto - 1
Zangief - 1
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WickIebee
06/03/18 3:55:50 PM
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Adaptional Hero:
Yami Yugi (Yu-Gi-Oh)

In the manga, and thus the original anime, he commits constant homocide using the cards as he's a sociopath. Not so much when the series we all know came out.

Adaptional Villain:
Ryuk (Live Action Death Note)

Obviously if you've seen the anime, you know Light getting the death note was coincidental and Ryuk just acted as a mediator, sat around and observed Light. In the Live Action he is basically a manipulative bastard, having specifically targetted Light to get the Death Note and like talks him into killing people with it.

Got in just in time, nearly missed 2 in a row.
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WickIebee
06/03/18 3:57:16 PM
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Also, you might want to get the nominations list from Day 7 instead of here, you seem to have dropped a few and accidentally re-added Final Girl to the 2nd spot.
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Inviso
06/03/18 3:58:19 PM
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Adaptational Hero:

Elphaba (Wicked)

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Johnbobb
06/03/18 4:14:20 PM
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WickIebee posted...
Also, you might want to get the nominations list from Day 7 instead of here, you seem to have dropped a few and accidentally re-added Final Girl to the 2nd spot.

oh good catch, not sure how that happened

actual nomination list:
The Fool
Monster Clown
Human Punching Bag
Tomboy & Girly Girl
Gentle Giant
Invincible Hero
Messianic Archetype (Christ Figure)
Bare-Fisted Monk
Ensemble Dark Horse
Your Size May Vary
Older Than They Look
Iconic Sequel Character
Unexpected Character
Superpowered Evil Side
Mix and Match Critters
Mad Bomber
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Johnbobb
06/03/18 4:16:04 PM
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Inviso posted...
Adaptational Hero:

Elphaba (Wicked)

?

Yeah, that's pretty good. It's kind of the extreme extent of the trope, where instead of just being less bad they're completely the hero.

In fact, I'm gonna unvote Rumpelstiltskin and vote Jafar (Twisted: The Untold Story of a Royal Vizier) instead
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Snake5555555555
06/03/18 4:18:29 PM
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I'll replace Anatoli Knyazev with Elphaba
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Underleveled
06/03/18 5:19:36 PM
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Adaptational Hero:
Elsa (Frozen)
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