Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 179: My Recollection of Flair Existing Keeps Changing

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Jakyl25 06/08/18 11:30:53 AM #252:	Thats a deep cut --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902771705] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>Thats a deep cut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 06/08/18 11:31:52 AM #253:	classix --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:902771747] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>classix</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 06/08/18 11:32:55 AM #254:	want another blast from the past House GOP votes to eliminate CHIP funding: https://twitter.com/AppropsDems/status/1004895936227741696 Pretty sure this dies in the Senate but who knows these days. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:902771796] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>want another blast from the past House GOP votes to eliminate CHIP funding: https://twitter.com/AppropsDems/status/1004895936227741696 Pretty sure this dies in the Senate but who knows these days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 06/08/18 11:34:45 AM #255:	damn those democrats for holding CHIP hostage --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:902771889] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>damn those democrats for holding CHIP hostage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 06/08/18 11:41:03 AM #256:	Why is none of this breaking through the clutter --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:902772206] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>Why is none of this breaking through the clutter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Regaro 06/08/18 11:42:23 AM #257:	xp1337 posted... want another blast from the past House GOP votes to eliminate CHIP funding: https://twitter.com/AppropsDems/status/1004895936227741696 Pretty sure this dies in the Senate but who knows these days. Wow Fuck them, and frankly, fuck everybody who supports them. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest <cite>Regaro posted [p:902772285] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>want another blast from the past House GOP votes to eliminate CHIP funding: https://twitter.com/AppropsDems/status/1004895936227741696 Pretty sure this dies in the Senate but who knows these days.</quote> Wow Fuck them, and frankly, fuck everybody who supports them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/08/18 11:43:06 AM #258:	xp1337 posted... want another blast from the past House GOP votes to eliminate CHIP funding: https://twitter.com/AppropsDems/status/1004895936227741696 Pretty sure this dies in the Senate but who knows these days. Can you provide a non-biased source of this? I am pretty sure this was also twisted before in regards to the GOP killing chip. Edit: Nevermind. Already found it. "A big chunk of the White House package -- $7 billion -- will go toward unspent funds in the Children's Health Insurance Program, a move that Democrats are seizing upon and will likely use as an attack against Republicans in the midterm elections. Republicans, however, argue the money was leftover spending and would have been shifted over to fund other aspects of government if it wasn't rescinded. The CBO projected the rescission would not affect payments to states for the program over the next decade, nor would the number of individuals with insurance be affected." It is literally the exact same thing that was tried to be twisted before just a few months ago. https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/07/politics/congress-house-rescissions-package/index.html --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:902772314] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>want another blast from the past House GOP votes to eliminate CHIP funding: https://twitter.com/AppropsDems/status/1004895936227741696 Pretty sure this dies in the Senate but who knows these days.</quote> Can you provide a non-biased source of this? I am pretty sure this was also twisted before in regards to the GOP killing chip. Edit: Nevermind. Already found it. "A big chunk of the White House package -- $7 billion -- will go toward unspent funds in the Children's Health Insurance Program, a move that Democrats are seizing upon and will likely use as an attack against Republicans in the midterm elections. Republicans, however, argue the money was leftover spending and would have been shifted over to fund other aspects of government if it wasn't rescinded. The CBO projected the rescission would not affect payments to states for the program over the next decade, nor would the number of individuals with insurance be affected." It is literally the exact same thing that was tried to be twisted before just a few months ago. https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/07/politics/congress-house-rescissions-package/index.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 06/08/18 11:45:03 AM #259:	Corrik posted... Can you provide a non-biased source of this? coming from you this is lol. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:902772419] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Can you provide a non-biased source of this?</quote> coming from you this is lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 06/08/18 11:45:39 AM #260:	Eddv posted... Why is none of this breaking through the clutter Serious answer? Because the media is obsessed with covering what Trump does/says 24/7 and he's focusing on conspiracy theories or kneeling or other grievance stuff. Granted, it's not wrong that the press has to give some attention to what he says given he's the President, but I mean... they're just ignoring everything else. Hell, IIRC, there was an article noting that the NYT (I think) has stopped quoting Congressional Dems in a bunch of stories and that the Sunday shows are primarily getting pundits to represent the Democratic side over elected officials, if even that. unfortunately (and ironically?) i don't recall the article in question --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:902772456] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>Why is none of this breaking through the clutter</quote> Serious answer? Because the media is obsessed with covering what Trump does/says 24/7 and he's focusing on conspiracy theories or kneeling or other grievance stuff. Granted, it's not wrong that the press has to give some attention to what he says given he's the President, but I mean... they're just ignoring everything else. Hell, IIRC, there was an article noting that the NYT (I think) has stopped quoting Congressional Dems in a bunch of stories and that the Sunday shows are primarily getting pundits to represent the Democratic side over elected officials, if even that. unfortunately (and ironically?) i don't recall the article in question</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 06/08/18 11:47:44 AM #261:	Seriously, at this moment CNN has a 5 person panel of Trumps latest comment on kneeling while Fox is covering Trumps lovers quarrel with Macron. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:902772574] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>Seriously, at this moment CNN has a 5 person panel of Trumps latest comment on kneeling while Fox is covering Trumps lovers quarrel with Macron.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/08/18 11:51:14 AM #262:	Mr Lasastryke posted... Corrik posted... Can you provide a non-biased source of this? coming from you this is lol. Show me. While I use sources from both ends of the spectrum, they are all within a spectrum of reason. Using a Democratic Twitter as a source is probably closer to infowars/occupy democrats in bias than any source I use. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:902772783] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Can you provide a non-biased source of this?</quote> coming from you this is lol.</quote> Show me. While I use sources from both ends of the spectrum, they are all within a spectrum of reason. Using a Democratic Twitter as a source is probably closer to infowars/occupy democrats in bias than any source I use.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 11:51:20 AM #263:	http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902772789] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 06/08/18 11:57:19 AM #264:	we're all about twitter here though I wasn't unaware of the source, but considering it's the official account from the House Appropriations Committee's Democrats (y'know... Congress) I don't find it a meaningful distinction from quoting from a member of Congress. Plus, y'know, the image of the actual vote taken in the House. If it was some non-government affiliated Democratic group, yeah, I would have passed on posting that. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:902773132] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>we're all about twitter here though I wasn't unaware of the source, but considering it's the official account from the House Appropriations Committee's Democrats (y'know... Congress) I don't find it a meaningful distinction from quoting from a member of Congress. Plus, y'know, the image of the actual vote taken in the House. If it was some non-government affiliated Democratic group, yeah, I would have passed on posting that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pyresword 06/08/18 12:01:02 PM #265:	Eddv posted... Why is none of this breaking through the clutter I would put forward the hypothesis that it isn't that these stories aren't breaking through the clutter, but that to most Americans these stories ARE the clutter. --- Congratulations to BK_Sheikah00, this year's guru to achieve contest enlightenment! <cite>pyresword posted [p:902773360] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>Why is none of this breaking through the clutter</quote> I would put forward the hypothesis that it isn't that these stories aren't breaking through the clutter, but that to most Americans these stories ARE the clutter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/08/18 12:07:30 PM #266:	xp1337 posted... we're all about twitter here though I wasn't unaware of the source, but considering it's the official account from the House Appropriations Committee's Democrats (y'know... Congress) I don't find it a meaningful distinction from quoting from a member of Congress. Plus, y'know, the image of the actual vote taken in the House. If it was some non-government affiliated Democratic group, yeah, I would have passed on posting that. The problem is that the rescissions bill does NOT defund CHIP based on the source I just gave you. It is just taking away the excess money in the CHIP account that is not being used and it has no bearing on its funding or the program. That is why it is not big news. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:902773755] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>we're all about twitter here though I wasn't unaware of the source, but considering it's the official account from the House Appropriations Committee's Democrats (y'know... Congress) I don't find it a meaningful distinction from quoting from a member of Congress. Plus, y'know, the image of the actual vote taken in the House. If it was some non-government affiliated Democratic group, yeah, I would have passed on posting that.</quote> The problem is that the rescissions bill does NOT defund CHIP based on the source I just gave you. It is just taking away the excess money in the CHIP account that is not being used and it has no bearing on its funding or the program. That is why it is not big news.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 06/08/18 12:26:52 PM #267:	Well, if CBO is projecting that "nothing happens" then I'm cautiously neutral on this. In that respect, thanks for the link. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:902774926] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>Well, if CBO is projecting that "nothing happens" then I'm cautiously neutral on this. In that respect, thanks for the link.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 06/08/18 1:51:29 PM #268:	If they get rid of the preexisting condition protection I'm screwed. I had to switch insurance when I moved so my eye problem is now a preexisting condition. Which means I either go bankrupt or blind in one eye if my insurance stops covering it. --- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/maniacjpgma.jpg ~Drak "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:902779802] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>If they get rid of the preexisting condition protection I'm screwed. I had to switch insurance when I moved so my eye problem is now a preexisting condition. Which means I either go bankrupt or blind in one eye if my insurance stops covering it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 06/08/18 2:00:54 PM #269:	I like how there is so much backlash towards the left in general that Trump's shenanigans aren't even leaving the impact they should. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:902780290] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>I like how there is so much backlash towards the left in general that Trump's shenanigans aren't even leaving the impact they should.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 06/08/18 3:47:01 PM #270:	Maniac64 posted... If they get rid of the preexisting condition protection I'm screwed. I had to switch insurance when I moved so my eye problem is now a preexisting condition. Which means I either go bankrupt or blind in one eye if my insurance stops covering it. You could switch even back in the days of preexisting conditions (though that itself made it more complicated). It was when you lapsed in coverage that it was a problem. --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:902786287] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Maniac64 posted...</cite> <quote>If they get rid of the preexisting condition protection I'm screwed. I had to switch insurance when I moved so my eye problem is now a preexisting condition. Which means I either go bankrupt or blind in one eye if my insurance stops covering it.</quote> You could switch even back in the days of preexisting conditions (though that itself made it more complicated). It was when you lapsed in coverage that it was a problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 06/08/18 3:51:05 PM #271:	That's good to hear. --- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/maniacjpgma.jpg ~Drak "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:902786522] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>That's good to hear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 06/08/18 4:18:51 PM #272:	If they strip this thing toothless, he could see his premiums rise though --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:902787940] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>If they strip this thing toothless, he could see his premiums rise though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 06/08/18 4:34:35 PM #273:	I doubt it gets struck down. There was never a question that it was constitutional without the mandate. So now there's no mandate. Still constitutional. Maybe it'll make the markets implode but that's not the Court's job to decide the wisdom of statutes passed by Congress. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:902788851] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>I doubt it gets struck down. There was never a question that it was constitutional without the mandate. So now there's no mandate. Still constitutional. Maybe it'll make the markets implode but that's not the Court's job to decide the wisdom of statutes passed by Congress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 06/08/18 4:39:40 PM #274:	https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1004715378893905920 blink --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:902789132] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1004715378893905920 blink</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 06/08/18 4:51:28 PM #275:	I mean, it's obvious he doesn't sleep with Melania. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:902789727] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>I mean, it's obvious he doesn't sleep with Melania.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 06/08/18 4:53:03 PM #276:	...is that even a rule, much less one that he actually had to follow given how brazen he is about flouting all of the other ones? --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:902789812] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>...is that even a rule, much less one that he actually had to follow given how brazen he is about flouting all of the other ones?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 06/08/18 4:59:38 PM #277:	Jakyl25 posted... http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called? Looks like a big lawsuit coming up. It's a free speech and free exercise of religion issue. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:902790164] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called?</quote> Looks like a big lawsuit coming up. It's a free speech and free exercise of religion issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 06/08/18 5:09:30 PM #278:	Here are the results of the Ontario provincial election Conservatives - 76 (40.50%) NDP - 40 (33.56%) Liberals - 7 (19.59%) Green - 1 (4.60%) 2014 Map https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Ontario_Provincial_Election_2014_Riding_Results_Map.svg 2018 Map https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Ontario_general_election_2018_-_Results_by_Riding.svg The Conservatives were able to grab a majority while the previously ruling Liberals lose party recognition status meaning they will be treated as independents. The Conservatives may give them an exemption and lower the threshold of 8. The Greens make history and win their first seat in Ontario. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:902790692] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>Here are the results of the Ontario provincial election Conservatives - 76 (40.50%) NDP - 40 (33.56%) Liberals - 7 (19.59%) Green - 1 (4.60%) 2014 Map https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Ontario_Provincial_Election_2014_Riding_Results_Map.svg 2018 Map https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Ontario_general_election_2018_-_Results_by_Riding.svg The Conservatives were able to grab a majority while the previously ruling Liberals lose party recognition status meaning they will be treated as independents. The Conservatives may give them an exemption and lower the threshold of 8. The Greens make history and win their first seat in Ontario.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 5:17:27 PM #279:	red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called? Looks like a big lawsuit coming up. It's a free speech and free exercise of religion issue. If he was an employee of a public school, which it seems like he is, I cant imagine he has a case. No matter what you think about private businesses discriminating, I think we can all agree that public employees should not be able to on the job. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902791170] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called?</quote> Looks like a big lawsuit coming up. It's a free speech and free exercise of religion issue.</quote> If he was an employee of a public school, which it seems like he is, I cant imagine he has a case. No matter what you think about private businesses discriminating, I think we can all agree that public employees should not be able to on the job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 06/08/18 5:21:34 PM #280:	Jakyl25 posted... red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called? Looks like a big lawsuit coming up. It's a free speech and free exercise of religion issue. If he was an employee of a public school, which it seems like he is, I cant imagine he has a case. No matter what you think about private businesses discriminating, I think we can all agree that public employees should not be able to on the job. My legal name is James Anthony, but I go by Tony. If a teacher refused to call me Tony, I'd be fucking furious. But these people never refuse my kind of name change, even though it takes literally as much effort. I wonder why? --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:902791418] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called?</quote> Looks like a big lawsuit coming up. It's a free speech and free exercise of religion issue.</quote> If he was an employee of a public school, which it seems like he is, I cant imagine he has a case. No matter what you think about private businesses discriminating, I think we can all agree that public employees should not be able to on the job.</quote> My legal name is James Anthony, but I go by Tony. If a teacher refused to call me Tony, I'd be fucking furious. But these people never refuse my kind of name change, even though it takes literally as much effort. I wonder why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 06/08/18 5:48:40 PM #281:	Jakyl25 posted... red sox 777 posted... Jakyl25 posted... http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called? Looks like a big lawsuit coming up. It's a free speech and free exercise of religion issue. If he was an employee of a public school, which it seems like he is, I cant imagine he has a case. No matter what you think about private businesses discriminating, I think we can all agree that public employees should not be able to on the job. It's not about him discriminating. It's about the school discriminating against him by compelling him to speak things he feels are contrary to his beliefs. That it's a public school makes his case far stronger, because the First Amendment doesn't apply against private businesses. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:902792878] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>http://abc7chicago.com/education/indiana-teacher-says-he-was-forced-to-resign-over-transgender-name-policy/3577848/ I guess Jesus said youre not allowed to call people what they want to be called?</quote> Looks like a big lawsuit coming up. It's a free speech and free exercise of religion issue.</quote> If he was an employee of a public school, which it seems like he is, I cant imagine he has a case. No matter what you think about private businesses discriminating, I think we can all agree that public employees should not be able to on the job.</quote> It's not about him discriminating. It's about the school discriminating against him by compelling him to speak things he feels are contrary to his beliefs. That it's a public school makes his case far stronger, because the First Amendment doesn't apply against private businesses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 06/08/18 5:55:19 PM #282:	Oh, but he resigned and then tried to retract his resignation. Guess he'll have to prove he was threatened with firing causing the resignation under duress to get to the 1st Amendment issues. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:902793250] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>Oh, but he resigned and then tried to retract his resignation. Guess he'll have to prove he was threatened with firing causing the resignation under duress to get to the 1st Amendment issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 5:56:01 PM #283:	red sox 777 posted... It's not about him discriminating. It's about the school discriminating against him by compelling him to speak things he feels are contrary to his beliefs. That it's a public school makes his case far stronger, because the First Amendment doesn't apply against private businesses. Please tell me this is just you trying to play Devils Advocate again so my brain doesnt explode --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902793288] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote> It's not about him discriminating. It's about the school discriminating against him by compelling him to speak things he feels are contrary to his beliefs. That it's a public school makes his case far stronger, because the First Amendment doesn't apply against private businesses.</quote> Please tell me this is just you trying to play Devils Advocate again so my brain doesnt explode</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/08/18 5:59:35 PM #284:	http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:902793485] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 06/08/18 6:01:37 PM #285:	Corrik posted... http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html Trump the Liberal. It will be funny seeing 90% of Republicans doing an abrupt about face on this. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:902793576] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html Trump the Liberal.</quote> It will be funny seeing 90% of Republicans doing an abrupt about face on this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 06/08/18 6:02:20 PM #286:	Jakyl25 posted... red sox 777 posted... It's not about him discriminating. It's about the school discriminating against him by compelling him to speak things he feels are contrary to his beliefs. That it's a public school makes his case far stronger, because the First Amendment doesn't apply against private businesses. Please tell me this is just you trying to play Devils Advocate again so my brain doesnt explode No. I'm a lawyer and in my opinion, this would be the framework it would be analyzed under. I don't think his claim would be strong because calling someone by their chosen name doesn't sound like protected free speech to me, but maybe with a couple more Trump appointees it might be possible? --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:902793615] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote> It's not about him discriminating. It's about the school discriminating against him by compelling him to speak things he feels are contrary to his beliefs. That it's a public school makes his case far stronger, because the First Amendment doesn't apply against private businesses.</quote> Please tell me this is just you trying to play Devils Advocate again so my brain doesnt explode</quote> No. I'm a lawyer and in my opinion, this would be the framework it would be analyzed under. I don't think his claim would be strong because calling someone by their chosen name doesn't sound like protected free speech to me, but maybe with a couple more Trump appointees it might be possible?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/08/18 6:02:22 PM #287:	Trump the Liberal: Part 2 https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/politics/trump-nfl-athletes-kneeling-pardons/index.html --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:902793617] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>Trump the Liberal: Part 2 https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/politics/trump-nfl-athletes-kneeling-pardons/index.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 6:04:18 PM #288:	Corrik posted... http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html Trump the Liberal. I love the idea that Trump will do good things just to spite Sessions. I thought legalizing it was popular across the political spectrum though? I know the left and libertarians both support it, and we are to the point now where a neocon like Jeb! can go on stage at a Republican debate and talk about how he used to light fatties. I think the last holdouts are sheltered old people from the age of Reefer Madness like Sessions. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902793708] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html Trump the Liberal.</quote> I love the idea that Trump will do good things just to spite Sessions. I thought legalizing it was popular across the political spectrum though? I know the left and libertarians both support it, and we are to the point now where a neocon like Jeb! can go on stage at a Republican debate and talk about how he used to light fatties. I think the last holdouts are sheltered old people from the age of Reefer Madness like Sessions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/08/18 6:05:42 PM #289:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html Trump the Liberal. I love the idea that Trump will do good things just to spite Sessions. I thought legalizing it was popular across the political spectrum though? I know the left and libertarians both support it, and we are to the point now where a neocon like Jeb! can go on stage at a Republican debate and talk about how he used to light fatties. I think the last holdouts are sheltered old people from the age of Reefer Madness like Sessions. he isn't talking about federally legalizing it. He is talking about removing the federal ban and making it a state's choice issue. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:902793778] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20180608-story.html Trump the Liberal.</quote> I love the idea that Trump will do good things just to spite Sessions. I thought legalizing it was popular across the political spectrum though? I know the left and libertarians both support it, and we are to the point now where a neocon like Jeb! can go on stage at a Republican debate and talk about how he used to light fatties. I think the last holdouts are sheltered old people from the age of Reefer Madness like Sessions.</quote> he isn't talking about federally legalizing it. He is talking about removing the federal ban and making it a state's choice issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 6:05:44 PM #290:	red sox 777 posted... No. I'm a lawyer and in my opinion, this would be the framework it would be analyzed under. I don't think his claim would be strong because calling someone by their chosen name doesn't sound like protected free speech to me, but maybe with a couple more Trump appointees it might be possible? I would hope a teacher doing deliberate harm to a student would not be a freedom of religion issue. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902793783] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote> No. I'm a lawyer and in my opinion, this would be the framework it would be analyzed under. I don't think his claim would be strong because calling someone by their chosen name doesn't sound like protected free speech to me, but maybe with a couple more Trump appointees it might be possible?</quote> I would hope a teacher doing deliberate harm to a student would not be a freedom of religion issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 6:06:48 PM #291:	Corrik posted... he isn't talking about federally legalizing it. He is talking about removing the federal ban and making it a state's choice issue. True, though changing the wording of my post to reflect that doesnt really change anything --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902793846] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> he isn't talking about federally legalizing it. He is talking about removing the federal ban and making it a state's choice issue. </quote> True, though changing the wording of my post to reflect that doesnt really change anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 6:09:33 PM #292:	Corrik posted... Trump the Liberal: Part 2 https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/politics/trump-nfl-athletes-kneeling-pardons/index.html I wonder if Trump realizes he cant unpardon someone if he thinks this is a trade for anthem standing and the athletes kneel anyway EDIT: I also love the idea that he thinks he can specifically bribe them by pardoning people they personally know. Thats such a mob boss move. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902793978] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Trump the Liberal: Part 2 https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/politics/trump-nfl-athletes-kneeling-pardons/index.html</quote> I wonder if Trump realizes he cant unpardon someone if he thinks this is a trade for anthem standing and the athletes kneel anyway EDIT: I also love the idea that he thinks he can specifically bribe them by pardoning people they personally know. Thats such a mob boss move.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/08/18 6:10:30 PM #293:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... Trump the Liberal: Part 2 https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/politics/trump-nfl-athletes-kneeling-pardons/index.html I wonder if Trump realizes he cant unpardon someone if he thinks this is a trade for anthem standing and the athletes kneel anyway I mean, I get the idea of it. Instead of disrespecting your nation, come to me and let's see if we can work together what you feel has been wronged. However, it reeks of a bribe and pandering. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:902794027] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Trump the Liberal: Part 2 https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/politics/trump-nfl-athletes-kneeling-pardons/index.html</quote> I wonder if Trump realizes he cant unpardon someone if he thinks this is a trade for anthem standing and the athletes kneel anyway</quote> I mean, I get the idea of it. Instead of disrespecting your nation, come to me and let's see if we can work together what you feel has been wronged. However, it reeks of a bribe and pandering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 06/08/18 6:12:13 PM #294:	To give some examples, if a public school required teachers to tell their classes that Christianity is the one true faith, that would be obviously unconstitutional. Same if they were required to tell students that Christianity is wrong. If they had to tell their class to support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, that's again obviously unconstitutional. If they banned teachers from using the name "Crooked Hillary" and required them to use "Hillary Clinton"? There are of course educational reasons teachers should not be using the classroom as a venue to campaign. Harder case. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:902794117] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>To give some examples, if a public school required teachers to tell their classes that Christianity is the one true faith, that would be obviously unconstitutional. Same if they were required to tell students that Christianity is wrong. If they had to tell their class to support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, that's again obviously unconstitutional. If they banned teachers from using the name "Crooked Hillary" and required them to use "Hillary Clinton"? There are of course educational reasons teachers should not be using the classroom as a venue to campaign. Harder case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 6:13:17 PM #295:	It absolutely is a bribe and pandering And it also shows a complete misunderstanding of the issue. Yes, racial bias in sentencing is a huge problem that needs to be fixed, but thats not specifically what the kneeling is about. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902794174] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>It absolutely is a bribe and pandering And it also shows a complete misunderstanding of the issue. Yes, racial bias in sentencing is a huge problem that needs to be fixed, but thats not specifically what the kneeling is about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 6:14:22 PM #296:	red sox 777 posted... To give some examples, if a public school required teachers to tell their classes that Christianity is the one true faith, that would be obviously unconstitutional. Same if they were required to tell students that Christianity is wrong. If they had to tell their class to support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, that's again obviously unconstitutional. If they banned teachers from using the name "Crooked Hillary" and required them to use "Hillary Clinton"? There are of course educational reasons teachers should not be using the classroom as a venue to campaign. Harder case. This really has nothing to do with his religion and everything to do with harming a child --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902794227] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>To give some examples, if a public school required teachers to tell their classes that Christianity is the one true faith, that would be obviously unconstitutional. Same if they were required to tell students that Christianity is wrong. If they had to tell their class to support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, that's again obviously unconstitutional. If they banned teachers from using the name "Crooked Hillary" and required them to use "Hillary Clinton"? There are of course educational reasons teachers should not be using the classroom as a venue to campaign. Harder case.</quote> This really has nothing to do with his religion and everything to do with harming a child</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 06/08/18 6:22:40 PM #297:	Jakyl25 posted... red sox 777 posted... To give some examples, if a public school required teachers to tell their classes that Christianity is the one true faith, that would be obviously unconstitutional. Same if they were required to tell students that Christianity is wrong. If they had to tell their class to support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, that's again obviously unconstitutional. If they banned teachers from using the name "Crooked Hillary" and required them to use "Hillary Clinton"? There are of course educational reasons teachers should not be using the classroom as a venue to campaign. Harder case. This really has nothing to do with his religion and everything to do with harming a child If the child wanted to sue him, sure. But if he's suing the school for compelled speech, they're going to look at it under the framework of law for free speech cases. Which he may/probably will still lose under, and I wouldn't call it obvious. Remember, the Supreme Court literally struck down a law against child labor once. Because it regulated manufacturing, rather than "commerce." Yes, that was an extremely conservative court, but we are one justice away from the most conservative court since that era. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:902794616] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>To give some examples, if a public school required teachers to tell their classes that Christianity is the one true faith, that would be obviously unconstitutional. Same if they were required to tell students that Christianity is wrong. If they had to tell their class to support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, that's again obviously unconstitutional. If they banned teachers from using the name "Crooked Hillary" and required them to use "Hillary Clinton"? There are of course educational reasons teachers should not be using the classroom as a venue to campaign. Harder case.</quote> This really has nothing to do with his religion and everything to do with harming a child</quote> If the child wanted to sue him, sure. But if he's suing the school for compelled speech, they're going to look at it under the framework of law for free speech cases. Which he may/probably will still lose under, and I wouldn't call it obvious. Remember, the Supreme Court literally struck down a law against child labor once. Because it regulated manufacturing, rather than "commerce." Yes, that was an extremely conservative court, but we are one justice away from the most conservative court since that era.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/08/18 6:24:56 PM #298:	Does the Bible even mention trans people? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:902794739] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>Does the Bible even mention trans people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 06/08/18 6:30:15 PM #299:	It doesn't matter what the Bible says as far as his claims go, because all religions and all forms thereof are protected, and nonreligious beliefs are also protected for free speech purposes. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:902795026] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't matter what the Bible says as far as his claims go, because all religions and all forms thereof are protected, and nonreligious beliefs are also protected for free speech purposes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 06/08/18 6:33:17 PM #300:	Out of curiosity, do you think teachers would be legally protected in the following cases: Calling each student by a nickname Calling each student by the next name down on their list Calling each student Steve Or really, is there any limit to what teachers can call students? --- JeffRaze, for all your random spellcasting needs <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:902795194] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote>Out of curiosity, do you think teachers would be legally protected in the following cases: Calling each student by a nickname Calling each student by the next name down on their list Calling each student Steve Or really, is there any limit to what teachers can call students?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 06/08/18 6:37:16 PM #301:	JeffreyRaze posted... Out of curiosity, do you think teachers would be legally protected in the following cases: Calling each student by a nickname Calling each student by the next name down on their list Calling each student Steve Or really, is there any limit to what teachers can call students? Personally, I don't consider any of those to be protected free speech. Because they don't express a viewpoint. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:902795425] in Politics C... [t:76674950]...</cite> <quote><cite>JeffreyRaze posted...</cite> <quote>Out of curiosity, do you think teachers would be legally protected in the following cases: Calling each student by a nickname Calling each student by the next name down on their list Calling each student Steve Or really, is there any limit to what teachers can call students?</quote> Personally, I don't consider any of those to be protected free speech. Because they don't express a viewpoint.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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