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voldothegr8
06/08/18 2:12:11 PM
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https://news.sky.com/story/memes-will-be-banned-under-new-eu-copyright-law-warn-campaigners-11398577

The EU Copyright Directive intends to protect the intellectual property rights of people who upload their material to the internet.

However, campaigners are warning the law will require "all content uploaded to the internet to be monitored and potentially deleted if a likeness to existing copyright is protected".

The campaign against a particular provision of the directive, Article 13, warns that online platforms would be economically damaged if they were forced to comply with its expensive obligations.

The law would "destroy the internet as we know it" warn the campaigners, who add it would "allow big companies to control what we see and do online".

Essentially, the campaigners are arguing the stringent copyright protections of Article 13 would damage the sharing of parody content and memes which, while themselves being original and creative works, are often developed from other people's original content.

Memes including image macros - such as the stock photograph of a distracted boyfriend taken by photographer Antonio Guillem - are often shared without the approval of the copyright holder.

The campaign follows an open letter sent by academics from intellectual property research centres in Europe regarding the copyright directive.

The allegations have been robustly rejected by the European Commission.

Introducing the legislative drive in 2016, European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker said he wanted "journalists, publishers and authors to be paid fairly for their work".

The copyright protections would apply to that work "whether it is made in studios or living rooms, whether it is disseminated offline or online, whether it is published via a copying machine or commercially hyperlinked on the web."

In response to the campaign, a European Commission spokesperson told Sky News: "The idea behind our copyright proposals is that people should be able to make a living from their creative ideas.

"The proposals to modernise EU copyright provisions will not harm freedom of expression on the internet.

"They take into account technological developments that have already been introduced by some of the major players and which help in two ways.

"Firstly, they help to inform authors when their works are used online and to prevent that these works are used by major online platforms without their author's consent.

"Secondly, such technological developments help to ensure the author's fair remuneration for their work."

Yikes, it must suck to live in Europe.
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Shotgunnova
06/08/18 2:13:38 PM
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Internet: hold my beer
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Abyssea
06/08/18 2:14:50 PM
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I'm seeing a repeat of the French revolution happening if this goes into effect.
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pinky0926
06/08/18 2:16:11 PM
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This does not mean that memes will be banned in Europe.

This means that campaigners are cautioning provisions in the legislation to not allow abuse of copyright.
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EverDownward
06/08/18 2:16:41 PM
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The EU is beginning to look more and more like an oppressive tyrant
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NeonOctopus
06/08/18 2:17:12 PM
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Antifar
06/08/18 2:18:00 PM
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Finally!
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Howl
06/08/18 2:18:35 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
This does not mean that memes will be banned in Europe.

This means that campaigners are cautioning provisions in the legislation to not allow abuse of copyright.


Which they will. See what is already happening on youtube with parody videos of Nintendo content.
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06/08/18 2:24:08 PM
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s0nicfan
06/08/18 2:25:57 PM
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I've been saying for years now that the EU is really, really anti-technology and keeps using legal threats and fines to try and force their demands on others.
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thronedfire2
06/08/18 2:28:18 PM
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But these are good memes!
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HylianFox
06/08/18 2:29:24 PM
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this is like killing Net Neut, it'll likely not have any real effect because the internet loves its freedom and will not tolerate this kind of shitty oppression
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P4wn4g3
06/08/18 2:32:53 PM
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HylianFox posted...
this is like killing Net Neut, it'll likely not have any real effect because the internet loves its freedom and will not tolerate this kind of shitty oppression

Wow those two things couldn't be less similar if you tried.

Anyway, just ban copyrights. So many problems solved with copyrights banned.
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LightHawKnight
06/08/18 2:36:36 PM
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HylianFox posted...
this is like killing Net Neut, it'll likely not have any real effect because the internet loves its freedom and will not tolerate this kind of shitty oppression


It is as if people forgot what happened to Netflix before Net Neutrality.
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P4wn4g3
06/08/18 2:44:07 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
HylianFox posted...
this is like killing Net Neut, it'll likely not have any real effect because the internet loves its freedom and will not tolerate this kind of shitty oppression


It is as if people forgot what happened to Netflix before Net Neutrality.

Netflix didn't exist in the early 90s.
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ScazarMeltex
06/08/18 2:47:13 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
HylianFox posted...
this is like killing Net Neut, it'll likely not have any real effect because the internet loves its freedom and will not tolerate this kind of shitty oppression


It is as if people forgot what happened to Netflix before Net Neutrality.

Netflix didn't exist in the early 90s.

Clearly you are an expert on the subject.
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LightHawKnight
06/08/18 2:48:47 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
HylianFox posted...
this is like killing Net Neut, it'll likely not have any real effect because the internet loves its freedom and will not tolerate this kind of shitty oppression


It is as if people forgot what happened to Netflix before Net Neutrality.

Netflix didn't exist in the early 90s.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality

In the U.S In April 2015, the FCC issued its Open Internet Order, which reclassified Internet access - previously classified as an information service - as a common carrier telecommunications service; i.e. a public utility.
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P4wn4g3
06/08/18 3:59:12 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
HylianFox posted...
this is like killing Net Neut, it'll likely not have any real effect because the internet loves its freedom and will not tolerate this kind of shitty oppression


It is as if people forgot what happened to Netflix before Net Neutrality.

Netflix didn't exist in the early 90s.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality

In the U.S In April 2015, the FCC issued its Open Internet Order, which reclassified Internet access - previously classified as an information service - as a common carrier telecommunications service; i.e. a public utility.

Wow you're bad at this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States
In the United States, net neutrality has been an issue of contention between network users and access providers since the 1990s.[1][2]

...

While the term is new, the ideas underlying net neutrality have a long pedigree in telecommunications practice and regulation. Services such as telegrams and the phone network (officially, the public switched telephone network or PSTN) have been considered common carriers under U.S. law, which means that they have been akin to public utilities and expressly forbidden to give preferential treatment. They have been regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in order to ensure fair pricing and access.[27]

In the late 1980s the Internet became legally available for commercial use, and in the early years of public use of the Internet, this was its main use public access was limited and largely reached through dial-up modems (as was the Bulletin board system dial-up culture that preceded it).


Need I go on or can you stop posting foolish garbage?
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Doe
06/08/18 4:00:37 PM
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How would this effect people in the US?
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CableZL
06/08/18 4:01:47 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Wow you're bad at this.


He's referring to what happened with Netflix prior to the 2015 net neutrality regulations. Yes, net neutrality has long since been a thing, but only recently was it actually enforced via government regulations. That's partially because of a few ISPs throttling Netflix traffic in 2014.
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LightHawKnight
06/08/18 4:09:13 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
HylianFox posted...
this is like killing Net Neut, it'll likely not have any real effect because the internet loves its freedom and will not tolerate this kind of shitty oppression


It is as if people forgot what happened to Netflix before Net Neutrality.

Netflix didn't exist in the early 90s.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality

In the U.S In April 2015, the FCC issued its Open Internet Order, which reclassified Internet access - previously classified as an information service - as a common carrier telecommunications service; i.e. a public utility.

Wow you're bad at this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States
In the United States, net neutrality has been an issue of contention between network users and access providers since the 1990s.[1][2]

...

While the term is new, the ideas underlying net neutrality have a long pedigree in telecommunications practice and regulation. Services such as telegrams and the phone network (officially, the public switched telephone network or PSTN) have been considered common carriers under U.S. law, which means that they have been akin to public utilities and expressly forbidden to give preferential treatment. They have been regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in order to ensure fair pricing and access.[27]

In the late 1980s the Internet became legally available for commercial use, and in the early years of public use of the Internet, this was its main use public access was limited and largely reached through dial-up modems (as was the Bulletin board system dial-up culture that preceded it).


Need I go on or can you stop posting foolish garbage?


Do you even understand what you are babbling about?

In the U.S In April 2015, the FCC issued its Open Internet Order, which reclassified Internet access - previously classified as an information service - as a common carrier telecommunications service; i.e. a public utility. But on December 14, 2017, the Commission, which was led by Chairman Ajit Pai, voted to partially repeal the 2015 Open Internet Order, classifying Internet access once again as an information service.

Please read and learn what the FCC did, and what Ijit Pai did.
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P4wn4g3
06/08/18 4:22:30 PM
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CableZL posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Wow you're bad at this.


He's referring to what happened with Netflix prior to the 2015 net neutrality regulations. Yes, net neutrality has long since been a thing, but only recently was it actually enforced via government regulations. That's partially because of a few ISPs throttling Netflix traffic in 2014.

*Consistently regulated, sure. The disconnect here is that ISPs have the means to control any traffic they like since they supply the hardware to keep the Internet functioning. The EU doesn't own shit. They will have to hire goons to gun down trolls. They aren't similar imo.
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CableZL
06/08/18 4:25:54 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
*Consistently regulated, sure. The disconnect here is that ISPs have the means to control any traffic they like since they supply the hardware to keep the Internet functioning. The EU doesn't own s***. They will have to hire goons to gun down trolls. They aren't similar imo.


I agree that US net neutrality laws don't have anything to do with the subject matter of the topic.
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MARKINGRAM22
06/08/18 4:36:33 PM
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EverDownward posted...
The EU is beginning to look more and more like an oppressive tyrant


Oh you don't think a giant political entity that usurps the rights and citizens of sovereign nations is not oppressive? You must be an Alt right Nazi.
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Kineth
06/08/18 4:38:13 PM
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Memes truly are magic.
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P4wn4g3
06/08/18 4:40:23 PM
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CableZL posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
*Consistently regulated, sure. The disconnect here is that ISPs have the means to control any traffic they like since they supply the hardware to keep the Internet functioning. The EU doesn't own s***. They will have to hire goons to gun down trolls. They aren't similar imo.


I agree that US net neutrality laws don't have anything to do with the subject matter of the topic.

Yeah sorry I was being unclear.
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The Great Muta 22
06/08/18 4:41:48 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Sounds like they need to add in some fair use protections like the US has, but all in all I dont see the argument against copyright holders should be allowed to prevent others from profiting off their copyright.


This.
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Kineth
06/08/18 4:41:57 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Sounds like they need to add in some fair use protections like the US has, but all in all I dont see the argument against copyright holders should be allowed to prevent others from profiting off their copyright.


The argument is "omg, I can't be shitty on the internet because of laws?! wrrrrryyyyy"
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southcoast09
06/08/18 4:42:44 PM
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Lol! And people wonder why we voted against having them control our internet

They seriously want the entire internet to be a massive liberal safe space.
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P4wn4g3
06/08/18 4:44:42 PM
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in comes southcoast with the unrelated sidebar
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