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DoomTheGyarados 06/15/18 11:28:10 PM #251:	lmao puns is so angry. Puns is so me like from like 6 years ago. Puns it is okay, we know town played like trash for the most part and corrik already has his respect thread. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:903351908] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>lmao puns is so angry. Puns is so me like from like 6 years ago. Puns it is okay, we know town played like trash for the most part and corrik already has his respect thread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:28:20 PM #252:	turbopuns2 posted... Corrik posted... scum was terrible See here is where you are wrong Deadpool was terrible. That's it. If you go read the full scumboard you will see. I don't care to read how you and Chris convince yourselves you played well here. Chris played slightly better than you but neither was good. You won by your roles on your team. Not by your play. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903351915] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>turbopuns2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>scum was terrible</quote> See here is where you are wrong Deadpool was terrible. That's it. If you go read the full scumboard you will see.</quote> I don't care to read how you and Chris convince yourselves you played well here. Chris played slightly better than you but neither was good. You won by your roles on your team. Not by your play.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
profDEADPOOL 06/15/18 11:28:20 PM #253:	Alakazamtrainer posted... So people stop asking, I was modkilled by way of sending my role action to the debunked MI. I was tired, and I used the first post to send my role pm. As a note, ACTIVE PLAYERS SHOULDN'T CREATE TOPICS. Meh. PM'ing an observer is still a modkill, and not having a topic because of host(s) being unavailable is even worse --- "Let's all go play nagasaki. We can all get vaporized. Hold my hand, let's turn to ash. I'll see you on the other side." <cite>profDEADPOOL posted [p:903351916] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alakazamtrainer posted...</cite> <quote>So people stop asking, I was modkilled by way of sending my role action to the debunked MI. I was tired, and I used the first post to send my role pm. As a note, ACTIVE PLAYERS SHOULDN'T CREATE TOPICS. Meh.</quote> PM'ing an observer is still a modkill, and not having a topic because of host(s) being unavailable is even worse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColZach 06/15/18 11:28:26 PM #254:	Leafeon13N posted... ShatteredElysium posted... Disagree. He was told not to vote Donk early and to discuss out all options to come across as town as possible in trying to work out the final scum rather than just going in blazing at Donk It was the right play only because the remaining town were spineless and had no fight. They kept looking for an easy answer that would never appear. If you had real players looking at the game logically, colzach being passive with a vote on him makes no sense. Yeah, but it won me the game. Whats the point in counter voting immediately? It accomplishes morning. <cite>ColZach posted [p:903351922] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>Leafeon13N posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote> Disagree. He was told not to vote Donk early and to discuss out all options to come across as town as possible in trying to work out the final scum rather than just going in blazing at Donk</quote> It was the right play only because the remaining town were spineless and had no fight. They kept looking for an easy answer that would never appear. If you had real players looking at the game logically, colzach being passive with a vote on him makes no sense.</quote> Yeah, but it won me the game. Whats the point in counter voting immediately? It accomplishes morning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 06/15/18 11:29:01 PM #255:	DoomTheGyarados posted... I loved played with you. You did a great job and you being lynched was bullshit. I was raging at the foolmo lynch. Starting the vanilla burn wins the game at that point because scanners would confirm themselves and godfather. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:903351953] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoomTheGyarados posted...</cite> <quote> I loved played with you. You did a great job and you being lynched was bullshit.</quote> I was raging at the foolmo lynch. Starting the vanilla burn wins the game at that point because scanners would confirm themselves and godfather.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RogueNoble 06/15/18 11:29:04 PM #256:	Foolmo had arguments so good I thought they were art. --- www.Tinyurl.com/wastedwizards -> A fantasy pun filled drinking game! <cite>RogueNoble posted [p:903351957] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Foolmo had arguments so good I thought they were art.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 06/15/18 11:29:24 PM #257:	I mean in the case for sceptile as town every person mentioned my bussing of him as being pretty strong. But you're right. No play here. I mean honestly? I played fine. If I am not scanned I am never lynched by you there. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:903351972] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>I mean in the case for sceptile as town every person mentioned my bussing of him as being pretty strong. But you're right. No play here. I mean honestly? I played fine. If I am not scanned I am never lynched by you there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
turbopuns2 06/15/18 11:29:36 PM #258:	DoomTheGyarados posted... lmao puns is so angry. Puns is so me like from like 6 years ago. Puns it is okay, we know town played like trash for the most part and corrik already has his respect thread. I'm gonna cool it here, thanks <cite>turbopuns2 posted [p:903351980] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoomTheGyarados posted...</cite> <quote>lmao puns is so angry. Puns is so me like from like 6 years ago. Puns it is okay, we know town played like trash for the most part and corrik already has his respect thread.</quote> I'm gonna cool it here, thanks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 06/15/18 11:30:13 PM #259:	ColZach posted... Whats the point in counter voting immediately? It accomplishes morning. You literally have two options at that point if you are town. Lynch donk. Get donk to lynch someone else. Nothing else can accomplishes anything unless those two conditions are fulfilled. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:903352012] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>ColZach posted...</cite> <quote> Whats the point in counter voting immediately? It accomplishes morning.</quote> You literally have two options at that point if you are town. Lynch donk. Get donk to lynch someone else. Nothing else can accomplishes anything unless those two conditions are fulfilled.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColZach 06/15/18 11:30:18 PM #260:	Corrik posted... turbopuns2 posted... Corrik posted... scum was terrible See here is where you are wrong Deadpool was terrible. That's it. If you go read the full scumboard you will see. I don't care to read how you and Chris convince yourselves you played well here. Chris played slightly better than you but neither was good. You won by your roles on your team. Not by your play. I dont understand how our roles won us the game. SE didnt even get scanned. <cite>ColZach posted [p:903352014] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>turbopuns2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>scum was terrible</quote> See here is where you are wrong Deadpool was terrible. That's it. If you go read the full scumboard you will see.</quote> I don't care to read how you and Chris convince yourselves you played well here. Chris played slightly better than you but neither was good. You won by your roles on your team. Not by your play.</quote> I dont understand how our roles won us the game. SE didnt even get scanned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 06/15/18 11:30:20 PM #261:	Oh and towns biggest enemy was inactivity. You let Corrik and MI do all the heavy lifting and without them driving the day, nothing happened. You could see it even when they were alive If Donk played all game like he did towards the end, you don't end up in that scenario but he went large stretches of the game without posting. Same with Arti, not quite to the same extreme but I didn't see Arti post a whole lot either but I remember him mentioning work or something? <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:903352018] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Oh and towns biggest enemy was inactivity. You let Corrik and MI do all the heavy lifting and without them driving the day, nothing happened. You could see it even when they were alive If Donk played all game like he did towards the end, you don't end up in that scenario but he went large stretches of the game without posting. Same with Arti, not quite to the same extreme but I didn't see Arti post a whole lot either but I remember him mentioning work or something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:30:31 PM #262:	turbopuns2 posted... And hey corrik If scum was terrible What does that say about town? Remember just a little bit ago when scum WON THE GAME I have alrdy said most of scum played terrible. You literally got into a scum-scum lynch day 1 with your 2 best roles. (Maybe). That said, we shit the bed late because of too many stupid lynches late. We should have lynched and confirmed MI probably 2 days earlier than we did tbqh. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903352029] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>turbopuns2 posted...</cite> <quote>And hey corrik If scum was terrible What does that say about town? Remember just a little bit ago when scum WON THE GAME</quote> I have alrdy said most of scum played terrible. You literally got into a scum-scum lynch day 1 with your 2 best roles. (Maybe). That said, we shit the bed late because of too many stupid lynches late. We should have lynched and confirmed MI probably 2 days earlier than we did tbqh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanahara715 06/15/18 11:31:42 PM #263:	ColZach posted... Leafeon13N posted... ShatteredElysium posted... Disagree. He was told not to vote Donk early and to discuss out all options to come across as town as possible in trying to work out the final scum rather than just going in blazing at Donk It was the right play only because the remaining town were spineless and had no fight. They kept looking for an easy answer that would never appear. If you had real players looking at the game logically, colzach being passive with a vote on him makes no sense. Yeah, but it won me the game. Whats the point in counter voting immediately? It accomplishes morning. If you decide to vote Arti, Donk is still voting for you. Arti can't vote for himself, so for self preservation has to vote you. So even if Panthera buys Arti as scum, it's a 2-2 tie at best. --- This is why we need feminism. <cite>Nanahara715 posted [p:903352081] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>ColZach posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Leafeon13N posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote> Disagree. He was told not to vote Donk early and to discuss out all options to come across as town as possible in trying to work out the final scum rather than just going in blazing at Donk</quote> It was the right play only because the remaining town were spineless and had no fight. They kept looking for an easy answer that would never appear. If you had real players looking at the game logically, colzach being passive with a vote on him makes no sense.</quote> Yeah, but it won me the game. Whats the point in counter voting immediately? It accomplishes morning.</quote> If you decide to vote Arti, Donk is still voting for you. Arti can't vote for himself, so for self preservation has to vote you. So even if Panthera buys Arti as scum, it's a 2-2 tie at best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eaedwards6400 06/15/18 11:31:57 PM #264:	Hey why was Zan Mod Killed? --- Posted using GameFlux Get it now for Android from Google Play! <cite>eaedwards6400 posted [p:903352094] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Hey why was Zan Mod Killed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alakazamtrainer 06/15/18 11:32:07 PM #265:	I played like crap. But ah well. --- FC is 5429 7532 9059 <cite>Alakazamtrainer posted [p:903352102] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>I played like crap. But ah well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
profDEADPOOL 06/15/18 11:32:13 PM #266:	turbopuns2 posted... Corrik posted... scum was terrible See here is where you are wrong Deadpool was terrible. That's it. If you go read the full scumboard you will see. Yeah I was. Trying to play memorial weekend was a major error on my part but hey it worked out in the end kinda --- "Let's all go play nagasaki. We can all get vaporized. Hold my hand, let's turn to ash. I'll see you on the other side." <cite>profDEADPOOL posted [p:903352105] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>turbopuns2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> scum was terrible</quote> See here is where you are wrong Deadpool was terrible. That's it. If you go read the full scumboard you will see.</quote> Yeah I was. Trying to play memorial weekend was a major error on my part but hey it worked out in the end kinda</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 06/15/18 11:32:24 PM #267:	eaedwards6400 posted... Hey why was Zan Mod Killed? He sent his night action to MI. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:903352115] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>eaedwards6400 posted...</cite> <quote>Hey why was Zan Mod Killed?</quote> He sent his night action to MI.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 06/15/18 11:32:38 PM #268:	Nanahara715 posted... ShatteredElysium posted... FD got fucked. His no lynch argument was flawless and had a chance of winning you the game there and then. And nobody bit on it. Flawless my ass, by not NLing we lynched scum. Lynching scum > NL. Every. Fucking. Time. That lynch also basically cleared Arti and Panthera and SHOULD have cleared Donk. Just because you got lucky on the lynch does not mean it was statistically the right play. Yes you got me lynched as scum but there was no real conviction on that lynch by half the people on it. It was a shot in the dark for most with several admitting they thought it was a mislynch and still did it anyway <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:903352128] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nanahara715 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>FD got fucked. His no lynch argument was flawless and had a chance of winning you the game there and then. And nobody bit on it.</quote> Flawless my ass, by not NLing we lynched scum. Lynching scum > NL. Every. Fucking. Time. That lynch also basically cleared Arti and Panthera and SHOULD have cleared Donk.</quote> Just because you got lucky on the lynch does not mean it was statistically the right play. Yes you got me lynched as scum but there was no real conviction on that lynch by half the people on it. It was a shot in the dark for most with several admitting they thought it was a mislynch and still did it anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:32:48 PM #269:	ColZach posted... Corrik posted... turbopuns2 posted... Corrik posted... scum was terrible See here is where you are wrong Deadpool was terrible. That's it. If you go read the full scumboard you will see. I don't care to read how you and Chris convince yourselves you played well here. Chris played slightly better than you but neither was good. You won by your roles on your team. Not by your play. I dont understand how our roles won us the game. SE didnt even get scanned. You don't understand how your roles won the game? Seriously? Your team played better. It had less modkills. It won. But acting like scum won by being great is silly. It was like two NBA teams with 30 turnovers each and one squeaking by 84-83. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903352136] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>ColZach posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>turbopuns2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>scum was terrible</quote> See here is where you are wrong Deadpool was terrible. That's it. If you go read the full scumboard you will see.</quote> I don't care to read how you and Chris convince yourselves you played well here. Chris played slightly better than you but neither was good. You won by your roles on your team. Not by your play.</quote> I dont understand how our roles won us the game. SE didnt even get scanned.</quote> You don't understand how your roles won the game? Seriously? Your team played better. It had less modkills. It won. But acting like scum won by being great is silly. It was like two NBA teams with 30 turnovers each and one squeaking by 84-83.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 06/15/18 11:32:53 PM #270:	Also did this game seem insanely unbalanced to anyone else? Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row, and the 6th after only 1 ML. How did it still. Yes we had 2 modkills (holy shit MI sucks) but only 1 of those was an extra kill. Scum had TWO extra kills, both of which were wasted. Imagine if one of them went through, or the town vig misfired, or Turbo and Chris didn't suicide D2/3. There's no way town would've won. Town actually got dumber towards the end because of all the anti-scanning roles. We would've done much better with all vanillas. Fucking shitwatcher I mean come on. Even Cop was explicitly anti-town. Overall forum mafia feels so much worse than AIM, not sure how you guys can do it so often. Yes it's cool that everyone gets invested for multiple weeks and it raises the game and gets super intense to levels AIM can't reach, but that also results in insane rage (like MI) and a super slow and careful and boring late game where you know 1 mistake will ruin all the effort you put in the last 2 weeks. And the insane roles and flavors definitely don't help. Why the hell did we have to question the mechanics of like 3 roles in that game? That's so anti-town and anti-fun. Yeah we had crazy roles in AIM but at least the host would explain them after the fact or something. Finally scumboard though --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:903352143] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Also did this game seem insanely unbalanced to anyone else? Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row, and the 6th after only 1 ML. How did it still. Yes we had 2 modkills (holy shit MI sucks) but only 1 of those was an extra kill. Scum had TWO extra kills, both of which were wasted. Imagine if one of them went through, or the town vig misfired, or Turbo and Chris didn't suicide D2/3. There's no way town would've won. Town actually got dumber towards the end because of all the anti-scanning roles. We would've done much better with all vanillas. Fucking shitwatcher I mean come on. Even Cop was explicitly anti-town. Overall forum mafia feels so much worse than AIM, not sure how you guys can do it so often. Yes it's cool that everyone gets invested for multiple weeks and it raises the game and gets super intense to levels AIM can't reach, but that also results in insane rage (like MI) and a super slow and careful and boring late game where you know 1 mistake will ruin all the effort you put in the last 2 weeks. And the insane roles and flavors definitely don't help. Why the hell did we have to question the mechanics of like 3 roles in that game? That's so anti-town and anti-fun. Yeah we had crazy roles in AIM but at least the host would explain them after the fact or something. Finally scumboard though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
profDEADPOOL 06/15/18 11:33:00 PM #271:	eaedwards6400 posted... Hey why was Zan Mod Killed? He PM'd his night action to someone besides VI --- "Let's all go play nagasaki. We can all get vaporized. Hold my hand, let's turn to ash. I'll see you on the other side." <cite>profDEADPOOL posted [p:903352152] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>eaedwards6400 posted...</cite> <quote>Hey why was Zan Mod Killed?</quote> He PM'd his night action to someone besides VI</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanahara715 06/15/18 11:33:06 PM #272:	Alakazamtrainer posted... I played like crap. But ah well. Yes. If Deadpool didn't flip scum and convince me you were Town, I would have shot you N1. --- This is why we need feminism. <cite>Nanahara715 posted [p:903352161] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alakazamtrainer posted...</cite> <quote>I played like crap. But ah well.</quote> Yes. If Deadpool didn't flip scum and convince me you were Town, I would have shot you N1.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
turbopuns2 06/15/18 11:33:31 PM #273:	I just want to say ColZach. If you are miraculously not a veteran in disguise....amazing play my dude. Fucking rock. star. status. I hope that you will keep playing with us and maintain the positive spirit you brought here. I had a fucking blast playing with you. <cite>turbopuns2 posted [p:903352177] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>I just want to say ColZach. If you are miraculously not a veteran in disguise....amazing play my dude. Fucking rock. star. status. I hope that you will keep playing with us and maintain the positive spirit you brought here. I had a fucking blast playing with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:33:47 PM #274:	ShatteredElysium posted... Nanahara715 posted... ShatteredElysium posted... FD got fucked. His no lynch argument was flawless and had a chance of winning you the game there and then. And nobody bit on it. Flawless my ass, by not NLing we lynched scum. Lynching scum > NL. Every. Fucking. Time. That lynch also basically cleared Arti and Panthera and SHOULD have cleared Donk. Just because you got lucky on the lynch does not mean it was statistically the right play First of all, NL was a terrible idea Second of all, that lynch should have won us the game is people hadn't overthought it. Or as cop that confirms it argued against it over and over. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903352195] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nanahara715 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>FD got fucked. His no lynch argument was flawless and had a chance of winning you the game there and then. And nobody bit on it.</quote> Flawless my ass, by not NLing we lynched scum. Lynching scum > NL. Every. Fucking. Time. That lynch also basically cleared Arti and Panthera and SHOULD have cleared Donk.</quote> Just because you got lucky on the lynch does not mean it was statistically the right play</quote> First of all, NL was a terrible idea Second of all, that lynch should have won us the game is people hadn't overthought it. Or as cop that confirms it argued against it over and over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 06/15/18 11:34:20 PM #275:	Town seemed weaker because a powerful killing role got placed on me and i got predictably murdered. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:903352222] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Town seemed weaker because a powerful killing role got placed on me and i got predictably murdered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 06/15/18 11:34:22 PM #276:	Hey, I was scanned. How did I suicide? :( --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:903352224] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Hey, I was scanned. How did I suicide? :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
turbopuns2 06/15/18 11:34:23 PM #277:	foolm0r0n posted... Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row 4* <cite>turbopuns2 posted [p:903352225] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row</quote> 4*</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 06/15/18 11:34:35 PM #278:	Oh yeah Zam played the absolute best Doctor I've ever seen and his modkill probably cost us the game But I still think we would've lost even with Zam --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:903352236] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah Zam played the absolute best Doctor I've ever seen and his modkill probably cost us the game But I still think we would've lost even with Zam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:34:44 PM #279:	turbopuns2 posted... I just want to say ColZach. If you are miraculously not a veteran in disguise....amazing play my dude. Fucking rock. star. status. I hope that you will keep playing with us and maintain the positive spirit you brought here. I had a fucking blast playing with you. Colzach should have been lynched for that hammer justification. Unfortunately, I saw red on MI and he did whatever. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903352242] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>turbopuns2 posted...</cite> <quote>I just want to say ColZach. If you are miraculously not a veteran in disguise....amazing play my dude. Fucking rock. star. status. I hope that you will keep playing with us and maintain the positive spirit you brought here. I had a fucking blast playing with you.</quote> Colzach should have been lynched for that hammer justification. Unfortunately, I saw red on MI and he did whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
turbopuns2 06/15/18 11:34:52 PM #280:	Wait wait wait WAS SCARE LAWYER <cite>turbopuns2 posted [p:903352254] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Wait wait wait WAS SCARE LAWYER</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 06/15/18 11:34:56 PM #281:	And now that it's post game we can finally play the mafia god fuck you bitches card without hesitation :) Well, some can. Certainly not all of us. --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:903352256] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>And now that it's post game we can finally play the mafia god fuck you bitches card without hesitation :) Well, some can. Certainly not all of us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:35:45 PM #282:	foolm0r0n posted... Also did this game seem insanely unbalanced to anyone else? Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row, and the 6th after only 1 ML. How did it still. Yes we had 2 modkills (holy shit MI sucks) but only 1 of those was an extra kill. Scum had TWO extra kills, both of which were wasted. Imagine if one of them went through, or the town vig misfired, or Turbo and Chris didn't suicide D2/3. There's no way town would've won. Town actually got dumber towards the end because of all the anti-scanning roles. We would've done much better with all vanillas. Fucking shitwatcher I mean come on. Even Cop was explicitly anti-town. Overall forum mafia feels so much worse than AIM, not sure how you guys can do it so often. Yes it's cool that everyone gets invested for multiple weeks and it raises the game and gets super intense to levels AIM can't reach, but that also results in insane rage (like MI) and a super slow and careful and boring late game where you know 1 mistake will ruin all the effort you put in the last 2 weeks. And the insane roles and flavors definitely don't help. Why the hell did we have to question the mechanics of like 3 roles in that game? That's so anti-town and anti-fun. Yeah we had crazy roles in AIM but at least the host would explain them after the fact or something. Finally scumboard though I still have no idea wtf u were doing with ur role lol. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903352302] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Also did this game seem insanely unbalanced to anyone else? Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row, and the 6th after only 1 ML. How did it still. Yes we had 2 modkills (holy shit MI sucks) but only 1 of those was an extra kill. Scum had TWO extra kills, both of which were wasted. Imagine if one of them went through, or the town vig misfired, or Turbo and Chris didn't suicide D2/3. There's no way town would've won. Town actually got dumber towards the end because of all the anti-scanning roles. We would've done much better with all vanillas. Fucking shitwatcher I mean come on. Even Cop was explicitly anti-town. Overall forum mafia feels so much worse than AIM, not sure how you guys can do it so often. Yes it's cool that everyone gets invested for multiple weeks and it raises the game and gets super intense to levels AIM can't reach, but that also results in insane rage (like MI) and a super slow and careful and boring late game where you know 1 mistake will ruin all the effort you put in the last 2 weeks. And the insane roles and flavors definitely don't help. Why the hell did we have to question the mechanics of like 3 roles in that game? That's so anti-town and anti-fun. Yeah we had crazy roles in AIM but at least the host would explain them after the fact or something. Finally scumboard though</quote> I still have no idea wtf u were doing with ur role lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 06/15/18 11:35:49 PM #283:	Leafeon13N posted... Town seemed weaker because a powerful killing role got placed on me and i got predictably murdered. But even that could've misfired and cost an ML Town had absolutely no safety and was on the edge of losing the entire time Whereas scum just needed 1 good player to win the whole thing --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:903352306] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>Leafeon13N posted...</cite> <quote>Town seemed weaker because a powerful killing role got placed on me and i got predictably murdered.</quote> But even that could've misfired and cost an ML Town had absolutely no safety and was on the edge of losing the entire time Whereas scum just needed 1 good player to win the whole thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColZach 06/15/18 11:36:24 PM #284:	For the record we had one EK. Hans had a strongarm, who apprently got blocked...question marks <cite>ColZach posted [p:903352326] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>For the record we had one EK. Hans had a strongarm, who apprently got blocked...question marks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:36:28 PM #285:	Panthera posted... And now that it's post game we can finally play the mafia god fuck you bitches card without hesitation :) Well, some can. Certainly not all of us. I think we coulda thought out the game given we had a confirmed cop flip before us. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903352332] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>And now that it's post game we can finally play the mafia god fuck you bitches card without hesitation :) Well, some can. Certainly not all of us.</quote> I think we coulda thought out the game given we had a confirmed cop flip before us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanahara715 06/15/18 11:36:32 PM #286:	ShatteredElysium posted... Nanahara715 posted... ShatteredElysium posted... FD got fucked. His no lynch argument was flawless and had a chance of winning you the game there and then. And nobody bit on it. Flawless my ass, by not NLing we lynched scum. Lynching scum > NL. Every. Fucking. Time. That lynch also basically cleared Arti and Panthera and SHOULD have cleared Donk. Just because you got lucky on the lynch does not mean it was statistically the right play. Yes you got me lynched as scum but there was no real conviction on that lynch by half the people on it. It was a shot in the dark for most with several admitting they thought it was a mislynch and still did it anyway We get zero information from a NL. The information from that day regardless of result would have been important. Additionally, we don't know what mafia does or doesn't have. As mentioned, mafia had TWO extra kills, and since they never fired, you don't know what they have back. [because of this, FDs role meta math was weong]. The SM didn't flip as a 1 shot or an eK, so we only knew the Vig was an EK. No reason the SM couldn't have not been an EK and scum was holding one back. You never fucking know, that's the whole goddamned point --- This is why we need feminism. <cite>Nanahara715 posted [p:903352339] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nanahara715 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>FD got fucked. His no lynch argument was flawless and had a chance of winning you the game there and then. And nobody bit on it.</quote> Flawless my ass, by not NLing we lynched scum. Lynching scum > NL. Every. Fucking. Time. That lynch also basically cleared Arti and Panthera and SHOULD have cleared Donk.</quote> Just because you got lucky on the lynch does not mean it was statistically the right play. Yes you got me lynched as scum but there was no real conviction on that lynch by half the people on it. It was a shot in the dark for most with several admitting they thought it was a mislynch and still did it anyway</quote> We get zero information from a NL. The information from that day regardless of result would have been important. Additionally, we don't know what mafia does or doesn't have. As mentioned, mafia had TWO extra kills, and since they never fired, you don't know what they have back. [because of this, FDs role meta math was weong]. The SM didn't flip as a 1 shot or an eK, so we only knew the Vig was an EK. No reason the SM couldn't have not been an EK and scum was holding one back. You never fucking know, that's the whole goddamned point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:37:16 PM #287:	Worst thing was... We shoulda probably just never lynched power and let it sort itself out. Which was my error. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903352376] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Worst thing was... We shoulda probably just never lynched power and let it sort itself out. Which was my error.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolar 06/15/18 11:37:19 PM #288:	foolm0r0n posted... Also did this game seem insanely unbalanced to anyone else? Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row, and the 6th after only 1 ML. How did it still. Yes we had 2 modkills (holy s* MI sucks) but only 1 of those was an extra kill. Because they... played badly? That's the way Mafia math works. Town can't get ahead of scum, it can only stay at parity or fall behind. No matter how well they do at first, they still can't repeatedly mislynch after that. --- Just killing time until the world ends. <cite>Sceptilesolar posted [p:903352381] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Also did this game seem insanely unbalanced to anyone else? Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row, and the 6th after only 1 ML. How did it still. Yes we had 2 modkills (holy s* MI sucks) but only 1 of those was an extra kill. </quote> Because they... played badly? That's the way Mafia math works. Town can't get ahead of scum, it can only stay at parity or fall behind. No matter how well they do at first, they still can't repeatedly mislynch after that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColZach 06/15/18 11:37:39 PM #289:	turbopuns2 posted... I just want to say ColZach. If you are miraculously not a veteran in disguise....amazing play my dude. Fucking rock. star. status. I hope that you will keep playing with us and maintain the positive spirit you brought here. I had a fucking blast playing with you. I feel the same way friend. I am indeed not a vet, promise. I think I will indeed stick around. <cite>ColZach posted [p:903352391] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>turbopuns2 posted...</cite> <quote>I just want to say ColZach. If you are miraculously not a veteran in disguise....amazing play my dude. Fucking rock. star. status. I hope that you will keep playing with us and maintain the positive spirit you brought here. I had a fucking blast playing with you.</quote> I feel the same way friend. I am indeed not a vet, promise. I think I will indeed stick around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeryInsane 06/15/18 11:38:27 PM #290:	I dunno how lynching MI makes sense, btw. He literally spoonfed two scum on a silver platter, and the fact that he was still alive meant that scum needed to rely on their godfathers to win -I initially wanted a double town roleblocker setup but Suprak rejected it and said that scum was too weak, so I swapped one for a weak watcher that gravy suggested (which I thought was too strong on its original state, can still confirm visits, and is EXTREMELY fitting for Lotta Hart) and gave Von Karma an extra kill -Oh, I also had like, four people help me out this game. Thank you very much gravy/Suprak/ben/IGCD! --- Warning: I'm literally VeryInsane. <cite>VeryInsane posted [p:903352423] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>I dunno how lynching MI makes sense, btw. He literally spoonfed two scum on a silver platter, and the fact that he was still alive meant that scum needed to rely on their godfathers to win -I initially wanted a double town roleblocker setup but Suprak rejected it and said that scum was too weak, so I swapped one for a weak watcher that gravy suggested (which I thought was too strong on its original state, can still confirm visits, and is EXTREMELY fitting for Lotta Hart) and gave Von Karma an extra kill -Oh, I also had like, four people help me out this game. Thank you very much gravy/Suprak/ben/IGCD!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:38:42 PM #291:	Alright let me read this scum circle jerk I guess. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903352439] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Alright let me read this scum circle jerk I guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanahara715 06/15/18 11:38:57 PM #292:	Was the Watcher really that shitty? And if so, what was the fucking point? --- This is why we need feminism. <cite>Nanahara715 posted [p:903352453] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>Was the Watcher really that shitty? And if so, what was the fucking point?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 06/15/18 11:39:59 PM #293:	VeryInsane posted... I dunno how lynching MI makes sense, btw. I don't know why it doesn't. Claiming cop as scum is exactly how MI plays scum. If you want to blame lynching him on anything, blame his prior scum game play. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:903352503] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeryInsane posted...</cite> <quote>I dunno how lynching MI makes sense, btw. </quote> I don't know why it doesn't. Claiming cop as scum is exactly how MI plays scum. If you want to blame lynching him on anything, blame his prior scum game play.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrinceKaro 06/15/18 11:40:04 PM #294:	I just want to say I have zero respect for how Corrik played the game, and I will absolutely refuse to ever play in a game he is a part of. You deserved to lose the game, not only because you are not as good of a player as you seem to think you are, but because you are an egomaniacal PoS who makes the atmosphere so toxic that we literally had a player leave the board over this. --- https://imgur.com/ptVv7Hu all going according to the plan of BKSheikah* this time...* <cite>PrinceKaro posted [p:903352508] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>I just want to say I have zero respect for how Corrik played the game, and I will absolutely refuse to ever play in a game he is a part of. You deserved to lose the game, not only because you are not as good of a player as you seem to think you are, but because you are an egomaniacal PoS who makes the atmosphere so toxic that we literally had a player leave the board over this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeryInsane 06/15/18 11:40:21 PM #295:	The point was that you had four scanning roles and they don't all have to be perfect Meta at your own risk --- Warning: I'm literally VeryInsane. <cite>VeryInsane posted [p:903352520] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>The point was that you had four scanning roles and they don't all have to be perfect Meta at your own risk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 06/15/18 11:40:29 PM #296:	Leafeon13N posted... Also the foolmo lynch was towns greatest mistake. You either needed to chop down the vanillas or no lynch at that point(vanilla massacre was my preferred). This lost the game tbh Looking back I absolutely should've pushed for a vanilla lynch instead of me (even if it was FD), but we were sooooo ahead I didn't think it really mattered --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:903352528] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>Leafeon13N posted...</cite> <quote>Also the foolmo lynch was towns greatest mistake. You either needed to chop down the vanillas or no lynch at that point(vanilla massacre was my preferred).</quote> This lost the game tbh Looking back I absolutely should've pushed for a vanilla lynch instead of me (even if it was FD), but we were sooooo ahead I didn't think it really mattered</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanahara715 06/15/18 11:40:42 PM #297:	PrinceKaro posted... I just want to say I have zero respect for how Corrik played the game, and I will absolutely refuse to ever play in a game he is a part of. You deserved to lose the game, not only because you are not as good of a player as you seem to think you are, but because you are an egomaniacal PoS who makes the atmosphere so toxic that we literally had a player leave the board over this. Fucking lol --- This is why we need feminism. <cite>Nanahara715 posted [p:903352541] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>PrinceKaro posted...</cite> <quote>I just want to say I have zero respect for how Corrik played the game, and I will absolutely refuse to ever play in a game he is a part of. You deserved to lose the game, not only because you are not as good of a player as you seem to think you are, but because you are an egomaniacal PoS who makes the atmosphere so toxic that we literally had a player leave the board over this.</quote> Fucking lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 06/15/18 11:41:13 PM #298:	It's fun not being the bad guy anymore. I am the happy, friendly Chris who is relaxed. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:903352572] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>It's fun not being the bad guy anymore. I am the happy, friendly Chris who is relaxed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alakazamtrainer 06/15/18 11:41:51 PM #299:	On a 3v1 situation, isn't No Lynch the only option? Or at least best option? --- FC is 5429 7532 9059 <cite>Alakazamtrainer posted [p:903352600] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote>On a 3v1 situation, isn't No Lynch the only option? Or at least best option?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 06/15/18 11:42:58 PM #300:	ColZach posted... For the record we had one EK. Hans had a strongarm, who apprently got blocked...question marks Kidnapper is more or less an extra kill foolm0r0n posted... Also did this game seem insanely unbalanced to anyone else? Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row, and the 6th after only 1 ML. How did it still. Because we fucked up. Because we lynched FD for no apparent reason. Because Corrik and I both basically had the same thought process on MI of not actually being sold on his alignment but acting like we were and making a mess of the whole thing. Because I failed at life in the endgame. Basically because I replaced in and blew it. Town doesn't win much when the final few decisions come down to someone who sucks at it. --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:903352657] in Phoenix Wr... [t:76709758]...</cite> <quote><cite>ColZach posted...</cite> <quote>For the record we had one EK. Hans had a strongarm, who apprently got blocked...question marks</quote> Kidnapper is more or less an extra kill <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Also did this game seem insanely unbalanced to anyone else? Town got FIVE scum lynched in a row, and the 6th after only 1 ML. How did it still. </quote> Because we fucked up. Because we lynched FD for no apparent reason. Because Corrik and I both basically had the same thought process on MI of not actually being sold on his alignment but acting like we were and making a mess of the whole thing. Because I failed at life in the endgame. Basically because I replaced in and blew it. Town doesn't win much when the final few decisions come down to someone who sucks at it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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