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WSM Piru
06/16/18 5:19:13 PM
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Pick your poison - Results (16 votes)
Xenogears
43.75% (7 votes)
7
Chrono Cross
56.25% (9 votes)
9
As anyone with good taste in JRPGs knowns, these two are some of Squares bottom tier games. But which is the WOAT?

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a-c-a-b
06/16/18 5:26:22 PM
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Hard choice but I gotta go with Xenogears. Such a terrible story.
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WhatHappened
06/16/18 5:29:56 PM
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Gafemage
06/16/18 5:30:29 PM
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WhatHappened posted...
Final Fantasy 7 is the correct answer of course.

shut the fuck up
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andel
06/16/18 5:30:46 PM
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lol every post itt above mine is trash tier opinions
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andel
06/16/18 5:31:04 PM
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anyway xenogears is the better game but both are incredible
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Reiss
06/16/18 5:31:13 PM
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Xenogears isn't even a full game
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WhatHappened
06/16/18 5:31:33 PM
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Gafemage posted...
WhatHappened posted...
Final Fantasy 7 is the correct answer of course.

shut the fuck up

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catboy0_0
06/16/18 5:32:38 PM
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Xenogears is much better imo
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Chronofan8
06/16/18 5:33:49 PM
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I dunno, do RPG maker-made games count?

Xeno, gears and Chrono Cross were made by the same people right? I think Chrono Cross is them taking away the wrong lessons from Xeno, gears, and is inevitably worse as a result but only just.
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Gafemage
06/16/18 5:34:50 PM
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WhatHappened posted...
Gafemage posted...
WhatHappened posted...
Final Fantasy 7 is the correct answer of course.

shut the fuck up

vspO1ch

h3h3 gif. Thank you for reinforcing my belief you have trash taste.
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catboy0_0
06/16/18 5:36:22 PM
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Chronofan8 posted...
I dunno, do RPG maker-made games count?

Xeno, gears and Chrono Cross were made by the same people right? I think Chrono Cross is them taking away the wrong lessons from Xeno, gears, and is inevitably worse as a result but only just.

well, the music is very similar in style, so much that a less informed person could assume tracks from one game came from the other
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andel
06/16/18 5:38:17 PM
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i think cc is better than ct. not a popular opinion but it really is a good (and different) game
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catboy0_0
06/16/18 5:40:20 PM
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andel posted...
i think cc is better than ct. not a popular opinion but it really is a good (and different) game

it probably appeals to more intellectually minded people or philosophical types. I couldn't get into it at all but I did get to the frozen sea then I dropped it for some reason.
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Hop103
06/16/18 5:41:16 PM
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Reiss posted...
Xenogears isn't even a full game


That game got rushed to hell, this is back when Square was just starting to decline, the second disc is nearly a movie.
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PMarth2002
06/16/18 5:41:42 PM
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I don't think either of those are anywhere near the worst jrpgs of all time
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fire_bolt
06/16/18 5:41:45 PM
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Neither lol. Hell, they're not even the worst Squaresoft RPGs lmao
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Chronofan8
06/16/18 5:41:59 PM
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They both kinda suffer from this 90s jRPG need to be 'profound'.
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WSM Piru
06/16/18 9:41:08 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Neither lol. Hell, they're not even the worst Squaresoft RPGs lmao


What Square RPG is worse other than FF8?
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squarion
06/16/18 9:42:43 PM
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WhatHappened posted...
Final Fantasy 7 is the correct answer of course.


Never seen something so false.
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WSM Piru
06/16/18 9:44:09 PM
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WhatHappened posted...
Final Fantasy 7 is the correct answer of course.


At least FF7 is a complete game tho.

andel posted...

i think cc is better than ct. not a popular opinion but it really is a good (and different) game


I'm legitimately curious how anyone could feel this way. Between the ridiculousness of everyone believing Serge in both timelines without a second thought and the MASSIVE plot dump when Crono and company show up, I felt the whole plot was abysmal.
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AlisLandale
06/16/18 9:50:54 PM
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Chrono Trigger is the Original Trilogy, Cross is the prequels which had a good story to tell and just sort of messed it all up but is still enjoyable.

That moment you try to have a luke i am your father twist but the MC is a silent protag
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ShadowStarMeteo
06/16/18 10:12:26 PM
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Chrono Cross doesn't deserve to be called a sequel to Chrono Trigger. It doesn't even deserve to be a sequel to Radical Dreamers.
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fire_bolt
06/16/18 10:21:28 PM
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WSM Piru posted...
fire_bolt posted...
Neither lol. Hell, they're not even the worst Squaresoft RPGs lmao


What Square RPG is worse other than FF8?


FF2 NES comes to mind immediately and objectively. Final Fantasy Mystic Quest as well. Legend of Mana, if you count it as a JRPG. Might be a few others I'm forgetting, but those are the ones from JUST SQUARESOFT. SE has a fair number of shitters too
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Chronofan8
06/16/18 10:28:13 PM
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Yeah, if you're not on a very specific wavelength then the SaGa franchise and everything made by that guy is just utterly impenetrable and awful.
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ShadosAtPhoenix
06/16/18 10:29:27 PM
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WhatHappened posted...
Final Fantasy 7 is the correct answer of course.
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WSM Piru
06/16/18 10:57:14 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
WSM Piru posted...
fire_bolt posted...
Neither lol. Hell, they're not even the worst Squaresoft RPGs lmao


What Square RPG is worse other than FF8?


FF2 NES comes to mind immediately and objectively.


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Yomi
06/16/18 11:03:29 PM
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ShadowStarMeteo posted...
Chrono Cross doesn't deserve to be called a sequel to Chrono Trigger. It doesn't even deserve to be a sequel to Radical Dreamers.
Ironically enough, most of the times I see "sequel" and "Chrono Cross" in the same message it's from people whining about how it's not up to par with Chrono Trigger. Meanwhile the people who like Chrono Cross for what it is just end up saying that it's a good game.
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WSM Piru
06/16/18 11:04:58 PM
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Yomi posted...
ShadowStarMeteo posted...
Chrono Cross doesn't deserve to be called a sequel to Chrono Trigger. It doesn't even deserve to be a sequel to Radical Dreamers.
Ironically enough, most of the times I see "sequel" and "Chrono Cross" in the same message it's from people whining about how it's not up to par with Chrono Trigger. Meanwhile the people who like Chrono Cross for what it is just end up saying that it's a good game.


I don't understand your point here, are you saying Cross is indeed NOT a sequel?
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fire_bolt
06/17/18 3:22:14 AM
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Yomi posted...
ShadowStarMeteo posted...
Chrono Cross doesn't deserve to be called a sequel to Chrono Trigger. It doesn't even deserve to be a sequel to Radical Dreamers.
Ironically enough, most of the times I see "sequel" and "Chrono Cross" in the same message it's from people whining about how it's not up to par with Chrono Trigger. Meanwhile the people who like Chrono Cross for what it is just end up saying that it's a good game.


Chrono Cross is a fair to good JRPG, but it is a terrible sequel to one of the best games in the SNES library. Taken on its own merits alone, Cross is pretty good (although the fact that the character roster is extremely wide and shallow detracts from it imo). The problem is when held up to Trigger it is inferior in every possible way. However, not being as good a Chronotrigger is something ALMOST ALL JRPGS are guilty of. Not fair to damn Cross on that metric. Being worse than a 10/10 isn't the end of the world. I'd rate Cross a 7/10 (meaning well above average) for both its story and its creativity.
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Yomi
06/17/18 5:56:49 AM
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fire_bolt posted...
Chrono Cross is a fair to good JRPG, but it is a terrible sequel to one of the best games in the SNES library. Taken on its own merits alone, Cross is pretty good (although the fact that the character roster is extremely wide and shallow detracts from it imo). The problem is when held up to Trigger it is inferior in every possible way. However, not being as good a Chronotrigger is something ALMOST ALL JRPGS are guilty of. Not fair to damn Cross on that metric. Being worse than a 10/10 isn't the end of the world. I'd rate Cross a 7/10 (meaning well above average) for both its story and its creativity.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.

WSM Piru posted...
I don't understand your point here, are you saying Cross is indeed NOT a sequel?
Chrono Cross is a sequel. My point is better explained in fire_bolt's post above.
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Dragonblade01
06/17/18 6:03:17 AM
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Why is it suddenly in fashion to troll old ass JRPGs?
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catboy0_0
06/17/18 6:06:38 AM
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Yomi posted...
Chrono Cross is a sequel. My point is better explained in fire_bolt's post above.

Chrono Cross is more of a detailed "what if" fan fiction sequel than a true sequel
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DarkTransient
06/17/18 6:14:26 AM
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Both of them took barely half an hour before I was completely put off.
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xlyd
06/17/18 6:30:34 AM
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WSM Piru posted...
As anyone with good taste in JRPGs knowns, these two are some of Squares bottom tier games. But which is the WOAT?

That's not even true at all. Take a look at all the reviews and popular opinions.
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creativerealms
06/17/18 6:42:03 AM
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Bait.
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