Current Events > Sweden: All women murdered by their husbands reached out for help

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I couldn't managed to get the Google Translate thing working, so you'll have to copy paste and translate the text. But I'll give you a tl;dr. Here's the article in Swedish:
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/sa-ska-livshotande-vald-i-hemmet-forhindras

Essentially, during 2016 and 2017, the Swedish social services investigated 21 deaths that occurred due to violence in close/intimate relationships. It turns out that in all 21 cases, the victim had reached out to an authority before they died. The report (in Swedish) is here:
https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/Lists/Artikelkatalog/Attachments/20860/2018-1-37.pdf

The rest of the article essentially talks about how the involved government agencies have to get better at cooperating and preventing these kinds of things.

This story made me think of a discussion I had on CE the other day where a user said something like "The women can just leave their husbands, since divorce is legal". I hope from this that it's clear that this is not always the case in abusive relationships, and that society is failing to give these victims proper support.
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I bet most of these were committed by men of cultural differences
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Sweden/10
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Not surprised.
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Trayvon posted...

I bet most of these were committed by men of cultural differences

The article mentions that one of the government agencies that is involved is the Migration office. So what you're saying isn't wholly unlikely.
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Sad but not surprising.
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....but I can give you more detailed info from the report I linked (translation by me):

Sex. 20 offenders were men, 1 was a woman.
Age. From less than 18 years old to over 80 years old. Average age was 39.
Relation to the victim. 19 of the offenders killed their partner or previous partner, 2 killed another family member.
Time in Sweden. A fifth of the offenders had been in Sweden for a maximum of three years when they committed the act. Some were asylum seekers.
Unemployment. Two thirds of the offenders of a working age and available to the market were unemployed.
Mental illness. Half of the offenders suffered from varying degrees of mental illness, whereof a majority had a diagnosed personality disorder or serious mental disorder. Half of the ones suffering from mental illness had experienced suicidal thoughts or had attempted suicide.
Risk or addiction problems. Half of the offenders had problems with alcohol, narcotics, or gambling.
Previous violent crimes. A fourth of the offenders had at least one previous sentence related to violent crime against a close or previously close person. Out of these some had been convicted for crime against the murder victim, or against another family member.

(side note: out of the 21 victims, 19 were women and 2 were men)
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It's summed up with the following statement (again translated by me):
Of the 21 offenders, everyone had one or more of the following life situations: Mental illness, risk or addiction problems, unemployment, asylum seeker, or previously sentenced for violent crime against a close or previously close person.
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It didnt even take two minutes...
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Another excerpt from the report, emphasizing that "just leaving" an abusive partner isn't so easy:

In 15 out of the 19 cases where the victim was murdered by a partner or previous partner, the victim was killed in connection to a separation. The act was in almost all cases made shortly after the victim had left the offender or after the victim had expressed a wish to leave the offender. Jealousy and suspicions of cheating or the fact that the victim had met a new partner had often fueled the events.

As for honor-related killings, two cases (out of the 21) were clearly honor-related and in two more cases the Social services say that there were indications of honor-related motives.
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scar the 1 posted...

I couldn't managed to get the Google Translate thing working

i've noticed recently that if you just put in the link, and try to make it translate the page that way, it just completely fails to do anything, atleast with SVT.
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That's a depressing thing to hear about.
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Low self esteem, brainwashed into believing that they dont deserve better, too afraid to leave, etc.
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scar the 1 posted...

e "The women can just leave their husbands, since divorce is legal". I hope from this that it's clear that this is not always the case in abusive relationships, and that society is failing to give these victims proper support.

Well fortunately in America, if dialing 911 fails to provide help in time, we have a legal right to dial .357 and get real help.
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That's so sad :(
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Crazyman93 posted...

Well fortunately in America, if dialing 911 fails to provide help in time, we have a legal right to dial .357 and get real help.

I personally think 9x19 is preferable.
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fenderbender321 posted...

I don't understand...these women are physically being stopped from leaving the relationship? By what? Are they handicapped? Are they being tied up and kidnapped? Or are their just aspects of the relationship they don't want to do without and are trying to have their cake and eat it too?

Just shut the fuck up and don't ever post again.
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fenderbender321 posted...

Foppe posted...

Low self esteem, brainwashed into believing that they dont deserve better, too afraid to leave, etc.

Gotcha. So there are aspects of the relationship they don't want to leave.

Fuck you.
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Crazyman93 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

e "The women can just leave their husbands, since divorce is legal". I hope from this that it's clear that this is not always the case in abusive relationships, and that society is failing to give these victims proper support.

Well fortunately in America, if dialing 911 fails to provide help in time, we have a legal right to dial .357 and get real help.

Unfortunately the criminal can dial .357 and ensure you dont dial 911 to begin with.
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fenderbender321 posted...

I don't understand...these women are physically being stopped from leaving the relationship? By what? Are they handicapped? Are they being tied up and kidnapped? Or are their just aspects of the relationship they don't want to do without and are trying to have their cake and eat it too?

Yes, it's quite clear you don't understand. I don't mean this in any sort of condescending way, but there are tons and tons of stories out there, told by people who used to be in really abusive relationships. And I recommend you read up on it. Better you read first hand accounts than some privileged CEmen trying to lecture you about it.
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fenderbender321 posted...

I don't understand...these women are physically being stopped from leaving the relationship? By what? Are they handicapped? Are they being tied up and kidnapped? Or are their just aspects of the relationship they don't want to do without and are trying to have their cake and eat it too?

They're afraid they'll be beat up or killed if they leave. Read the thread before posting maybe?

But to attempt to begin to answer your questions:
There are several reasons why they might be afraid to leave. They might be afraid for their life, or afraid for the life of their partner. Quite often they don't categorically hate their partner, on the contrary they still love them and don't wish them harm. There are often issues of internalizing blame, i.e., "it's my fault he's being abusive, I deserved it". The list goes on and on. It's not just one blanket answer, although this report illustrates that fear for their lives is justified.
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ROBANN_88 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

I couldn't managed to get the Google Translate thing working

i've noticed recently that if you just put in the link, and try to make it translate the page that way, it just completely fails to do anything, atleast with SVT.

Yeah, it seems like SVT is blocking Google Translate's crawler somehow. Which is silly, probably they just block crawlers in general in some way, or maybe I'm completely wrong. Shouldn't be much crawling going on here.
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I'm not entirely what the point of this topic is. What is "society is failing to give these victims proper support" implying? Do you want the government to have some sort marriage equivalent to CPS? Where the government can come in and end marriages and forcibly separate spouses if they think they're in a bad relationship?

Grischnak posted...

I'm not entirely what the point of this topic is. What is "society is failing to give these victims proper support" implying? Do you want the government to have some sort marriage equivalent to CPS? Where the government can come in and end marriages and forcibly separate spouses if they think they're in a bad relationship?

It's implying that in 2016 and 2017, these 21 victims were all in contact with government agencies, and the government agencies themselves are acknowledging that they need to get better at cooperating so that they can identify and prevent cases where there's a risk of bodily harm. The government themselves are tasking four specific agencies to get better at this.

I posted the topic because the last couple of days I've seen several posters show significant ignorance as to what living in an abusive relationship entails, and this shows part of the picture.
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scar the 1 posted...

Grischnak posted...

I'm not entirely what the point of this topic is. What is "society is failing to give these victims proper support" implying? Do you want the government to have some sort marriage equivalent to CPS? Where the government can come in and end marriages and forcibly separate spouses if they think they're in a bad relationship?

It's implying that in 2016 and 2017, these 21 victims were all in contact with government agencies, and the government agencies themselves are acknowledging that they need to get better at cooperating so that they can identify and prevent cases where there's a risk of bodily harm. The government themselves are tasking four specific agencies to get better at this.

I posted the topic because the last couple of days I've seen several posters show significant ignorance as to what living in an abusive relationship entails, and this shows part of the picture.

I don't know about Sweden but I know in the US there are a lot of resources to help people get out of abusive relationships:

http://www.thehotline.org/help/

fenderbender321 posted...

I don't understand...these women are physically being stopped from leaving the relationship? By what? Are they handicapped? Are they being tied up and kidnapped? Or are their just aspects of the relationship they don't want to do without and are trying to have their cake and eat it too?

couldn't help yourself could you smh
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Grischnak posted...

I don't know about Sweden but I know in the US there are a lot of resources to help people get out of abusive relationships:

http://www.thehotline.org/help/

There are probably similar hotline services in Sweden. This report specifically talks about how public agencies such as healthcare and social services failed to e.g., ask questions about violence, make risk assessments, etc. Things that they are supposed to do.
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Bump
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I imagine the SJW authorities told these women they were being racist with their fake complaints.