Current Events > Looks like (as expected), North Korea was fooling Trump

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BWLurker
06/18/18 10:01:14 AM
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http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-dismantling-missile-facilities-satellite-imagery-980031

There is no visible indication that North Korea has begun dismantling missile launch sites as reportedly promised, according to satellite imagery shared by 38 North.

The program, hosted by the U.S.-Korea Institute at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, analyzed and posted imagery of the known locations of North Koreas missile launch facilities on Thursday and Friday. According to the analysis, 38 North reported that it could not identify any activity associated with the dismantlement at any testing sites.

There are six known launch and engine testing facilities as well as two eject test stands scatteredthroughout North Korea.

"Of these facilities and test stands, it is likely that President [Donald] Trumps comment on June 12 regarding the destruction of a ' major missile engine testing site' was not referring to either the Iha-ri test standwhich was razed in Mayor the Sinpo South Shipyard test stand that has not been used in approximately a year. And contrary to the presidents statement, both sites have been solely used for ejection tests, not engine tests or launches," the report indicated.

Following the historic Singapore summit on June 12, President Donald Trump told reporters that North Korea had blown up their missile area. He also said that his team had secured a commitment from Pyongyang to destroy the missile engine testing site and that Kim would close it up. The president did not specify which precise sites he was referring to.

Since the summit, many critics have argued that Trump made numerous concessions without getting concrete promises from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. A classified Israeli report shared by Axios shed doubts on the positive spin the president put on the summit.


Trump was duped? I am SHOCKED
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DarkChozoGhost
06/18/18 10:05:15 AM
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LightHawKnight
06/18/18 10:05:52 AM
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Shocking.
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CableZL
06/18/18 10:06:26 AM
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Funkydog
06/18/18 10:06:38 AM
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And only Trump is suprised.
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Coffeebeanz
06/18/18 10:08:02 AM
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North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.
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davyheinz
06/18/18 10:08:14 AM
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This plan didnt immediately work? I guess we should do away with it since it is a waste of money from the government. Thats the conservative way!
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Funkydog
06/18/18 10:09:45 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.

I don't see how one person being duped makes it okay for another person to intentionally get duped.
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Fluttershy462
06/18/18 10:10:43 AM
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Its only Monday
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babyeatermax
06/18/18 10:12:09 AM
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But he stopped the nuclear apocalyspe. We would all be super mutants if it weren't for Lord Trump.
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A_Good_Boy
06/18/18 10:14:01 AM
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Is it too late for UPS to stop shipment of Trump's Nobel Peace prize?
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Darkman124
06/18/18 10:15:17 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Obama got played by Iran


how, exactly?
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Oatcakes
06/18/18 10:17:13 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


Look over here guys, a squirrel!!!!
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Solar_Crimson
06/18/18 10:17:23 AM
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CableZL posted...
I, for one, did not see this coming.

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sobergermanguy
06/18/18 10:17:23 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Obama got played by Iran


how, exactly?

More like Trump got played by Israel
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foreveraIone
06/18/18 10:18:11 AM
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why did this 3 day old article get posted today?
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Ray_Dorset
06/18/18 10:25:14 AM
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CableZL posted...
I, for one, did not see this coming.


I'm rather flabbergasted myself
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Veggeta_MAX
06/18/18 10:26:24 AM
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Gonna post this on LL to start some shit.
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Ruvan22
06/18/18 10:30:31 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?
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foreveraIone
06/18/18 10:48:25 AM
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how did iran play obama?
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A_Good_Boy
06/18/18 10:49:40 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
how did iran play obama?

Cause Trump said so.
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spudger
06/18/18 10:50:15 AM
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Bbbbut obaawwmuh!

Grow up
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
06/18/18 10:51:03 AM
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Hell yes I might get nuked now but at least I get to laugh at Trump
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Antifar
06/18/18 10:53:33 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?

That's correct.
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Sayoria
06/18/18 11:03:30 AM
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You mean North Korea was fooling the democrats.
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XplodnPnguins92
06/18/18 11:06:51 AM
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fake news. all the images in 38North's analysis are from well before their 12th June meeting (latest 2nd June).
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Coffeebeanz
06/18/18 11:12:59 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.
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andel
06/18/18 11:20:51 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.


so you admit you were shit posting and have nothing to cite? repugs just make shit up and think people should believe them lol
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foreveraIone
06/18/18 11:21:43 AM
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coffeebeanz isnt a Republican. she just needs meds
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Coffeebeanz
06/18/18 11:22:11 AM
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andel posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.


And considering Iran violated agreements at least as often as North Korea, agreeing to not inspect them doesn't exactly help.
so you admit you were shit posting and have nothing to cite? repugs just make shit up and think people should believe them lol


I'm not conservative or a republican.
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BWLurker2
06/18/18 11:24:04 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.

You realize that the inspections are only announced 20 days ahead of time and it takes a LOT more than that to cover up evidence of uranium enrichment, right?
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foreveraIone
06/18/18 11:24:38 AM
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is this another example of the dunning kruger effect????
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eston
06/18/18 11:26:51 AM
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babyeatermax posted...
But he stopped the nuclear apocalyspe. We would all be super mutants if it weren't for Lord Trump.

But that sounds awesome
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Ruvan22
06/18/18 11:31:28 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.


Was that part of the Obama Iran deal? If not, then he didn't get played? (unless proof of continued nuclear activity was found, like there was in NK)
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ssj3vegeta
06/18/18 11:32:44 AM
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Pogo_Marimo
06/18/18 11:34:13 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.

Not really, as basically every nuclear expert involved in overseeing the operation made clear when the deal was made.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/13/why-its-impossible-to-hide-nuclear-work-in-24-days-or-24-years/
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andel
06/18/18 11:34:44 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
andel posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.


And considering Iran violated agreements at least as often as North Korea, agreeing to not inspect them doesn't exactly help.
so you admit you were shit posting and have nothing to cite? repugs just make shit up and think people should believe them lol


I'm not conservative or a republican.


which is a difference without a distinction really

and care to respond to your obviously false claim?
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Coffeebeanz
06/18/18 11:36:43 AM
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andel posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
andel posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.


And considering Iran violated agreements at least as often as North Korea, agreeing to not inspect them doesn't exactly help.
so you admit you were shit posting and have nothing to cite? repugs just make shit up and think people should believe them lol


I'm not conservative or a republican.


which is a difference without a distinction really

and care to respond to your obviously false claim?


What was false about claiming that they can't make unannounced inspections? Because they can't.

If it wasn't good enough for Hans Blix and North Korea, why have the goalposts changed?

Democrats literally would not shut up about the exact same agreement Bush made with NK.
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foreveraIone
06/18/18 11:38:50 AM
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dont worry shes just off her meds.

gotta force it down next time
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BWLurker2
06/18/18 11:38:52 AM
#42:


Coffeebeanz posted...
andel posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
andel posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.


And considering Iran violated agreements at least as often as North Korea, agreeing to not inspect them doesn't exactly help.
so you admit you were shit posting and have nothing to cite? repugs just make shit up and think people should believe them lol


I'm not conservative or a republican.


which is a difference without a distinction really

and care to respond to your obviously false claim?


What was false about claiming that they can't make unannounced inspections? Because they can't.

If it wasn't good enough for Hans Blix and North Korea, why have the goalposts changed?

Democrats literally would not shut up about the exact same agreement Bush made with NK.

Do you understand that evidence of nuclear enrichment can not be cleaned up in 20 days? You've ignored both posts pointing that out.
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CyricZ
06/18/18 11:40:29 AM
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Not that big of an accomplishment.

I could fool Trump with two cardboard boxes, some magic markers, and a short length of hose.
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soyforsteaks
06/18/18 11:40:53 AM
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How could Trump of all people Nazi see this coming?
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Darkman124
06/18/18 11:41:02 AM
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confirmed that coffeebeanz is not a radiologist

is joke, very funny, laugh
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Coffeebeanz
06/18/18 11:44:05 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
confirmed that coffeebeanz is not a radiologist

is joke, very funny, laugh


Can't rule out literally anything
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CyricZ
06/18/18 11:44:20 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
confirmed that coffeebeanz is not a radiologist

is joke, very funny, laugh

Savage. :)
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Coffeebeanz
06/18/18 11:46:12 AM
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Do you understand that evidence of nuclear enrichment can not be cleaned up in 20 days? You've ignored both posts pointing that out.


I believe you. I'm just asking why this standard was unacceptable for Bush but not Obama.
Unless hypocrisy.

Because not allowing unannounced inspections was considered laughable by Democrats until Obama did it, and now apparently he's a genius.

Literally political cartoons of Bush looking like a moron for trusting NK with announced inspections.

Also, Trump is a moron for even engaging with KJU, let alone making "gentleman's agreements" with him.
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Pogo_Marimo
06/18/18 11:57:30 AM
#49:


Coffeebeanz posted...
andel posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
andel posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
North Korea is BSing? No way.

But before liberals get smug, Obama got played by Iran and you're still defending him.


I thought Iran was found to be complying with the terms of the treaty?


Easy to do when you don't have to allow unannounced inspections.


And considering Iran violated agreements at least as often as North Korea, agreeing to not inspect them doesn't exactly help.
so you admit you were shit posting and have nothing to cite? repugs just make shit up and think people should believe them lol


I'm not conservative or a republican.


which is a difference without a distinction really

and care to respond to your obviously false claim?


What was false about claiming that they can't make unannounced inspections? Because they can't.

If it wasn't good enough for Hans Blix and North Korea, why have the goalposts changed?

Democrats literally would not shut up about the exact same agreement Bush made with NK.

Any disclosed nuclear facilities can actually be inspected on a moment's notice per the agreement. It's if there is a suspected undisclosed facility that an agreement has to be reached and concluded within 24 days, because Iran is not going to allow people into any facility in their country without prior notice--Which is obviously reasonable. If it were otherwise, we could just force our way into any governmental agency of there's through threat of sanctions. It's like Russia being able to demand access into the Pentagon with no notice for inspection. It's absurd.

However, again, it is feasibly impossible to clean up nuclear weapon development of fissile material in 24 days. So....
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Pogo_Marimo
06/18/18 11:59:23 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Do you understand that evidence of nuclear enrichment can not be cleaned up in 20 days? You've ignored both posts pointing that out.


I believe you. I'm just asking why this standard was unacceptable for Bush but not Obama.
Unless hypocrisy.

Because not allowing unannounced inspections was considered laughable by Democrats until Obama did it, and now apparently he's a genius.

Literally political cartoons of Bush looking like a moron for trusting NK with announced inspections.

Also, Trump is a moron for even engaging with KJU, let alone making "gentleman's agreements" with him.

Frankly, this literally has no impact on whether the agreement was good or not, it's just you changing the discussion away from the statements that were blatantly wrong and ignorant. No one should have a discussion with you if you can only debate in such poor faith.
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