Current Events > Are children really being kept in cages under the Trump administration?

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The only pictures I could find were from the Obama era and a picture that was from an immigration protest.

Does anyone have pictures of children in cages under Trump? I've heard this claim many times the past day or two on CE.

Just trying to see if it's real.
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Border Patrol has admitted that yes, they are cages, but they are uncomfortable with the association that word brings

https://twitter.com/cbsthismorning/status/1008695502379077637

because I actually don't get tired of the spinning certain people put on the word "cage" despite the people in charge of them saying "ok yeah they're cages but also please stop saying that it hurts our feelings :(" here you go TC.

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1008704668816560128?s=09
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So you got plenty of time to pro Trump shitpost on CE all day but not 1 minute to search the biggest current political story?

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1008704668816560128
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Thanks, guys. I couldn't find it until BWLurker mentioned border patrol then I was able to see.
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i like children. they dont leave much of a mess.

That is correct, yes. Would you like some examples of how bad that 72 hours can get, or have you already made up your mind?
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Cause i killem

and the tc is an evil troll.

SmidgeIsntBack posted...

That is correct, yes. Would you like some examples of how bad that 72 hours can get, or have you already made up your mind?

Hes a trump supporter so hes made up his mind already
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...

That is correct, yes. Would you like some examples of how bad that 72 hours can get, or have you already made up your mind?

While the situation must be awful and scary for the children, I'm sure their journey up to this point has been painful as well, especially considering most of them aren't even with their family. They're being smuggled alone---without their parents.

What sort of environment would you create as a temporary holding area that is secure and able to handle the constant stream of people apprehended at the border?

Would you suggest just allowing them to keep moving across into the U.S. knowing that 8/10 of these children aren't even with their parents? And you don't know who the people bringing them in are?

What is your thought process on this?
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HeyPuff posted...

Hes a trump supporter so hes made up his mind already

Meh, I'll take the chance. It'll be nice to get the links in one place.

Ok so what kicked off this whole deal was when a Senator was refused access to one of the facilities, an old warehouse with blacked out windows. He had initially phoned ahead letting them know he wanted to visit, but was told it would be weeks before that could be possible. However he was granted access to another facility he tried.

https://apnews.com/0b2639ea194e4c49a627bbe6bf186dff

Then came the footage seen in that earliest post after reporters were allowed access. That was officially released footage. Reporters were not allowed to record anything, or speak to the children directly.

Not long after this, an audio leak turned up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=PoncXfYBAVI
https://www.propublica.org/article/children-separated-from-parents-border-patrol-cbp-trump-immigration-policy

In some cases, the parents do not even know their children are being taken away.

I dont have any idea where they are, shed told a Post reporter shortly before the hearing began. Nobody knows anything. Nobody says anything just lies. They said they were taking them for questioning, and we were only going to be apart for a moment. But they never came back.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/they-just-took-them-frantic-parents-separated-from-their-kids-fill-courts-on-the-border/2018/06/09/e3f5170c-6aa9-11e8-bea7-c8eb28bc52b1_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.009d4814ca22

The American Academy of Pediatrics has this to say on the psychological effects of removing a child from their parents in the middle of a stressful situation.
http://www.aappublications.org/news/2018/06/14/washington061418

Capn Circus posted...

Would you suggest just allowing them to keep moving across into the U.S. knowing that 8/10 of these children aren't even with their parents? And you don't know who the people bringing them in are?

While the DHS has stated the 80+% statistic, I'm not sure I believe it. This whole thing has been very unorganized and filled with misinformation left and right from the get-go. From the Post article,

Moody declined to discuss her work prosecuting parents for illegal entry in McAllen. A spokeswoman for the Justice Departments Southern District of Texas said her office could not say how many parents had been separated from their children because of the zero-tolerance policy.

DOJ does not keep statistics on whether or not someone is a parent, said Angela Dodge, adding that prosecutors had no way of knowing when someone was a parent and that its not relevant when prosecuting a case.

Some more talk about separation over the past year and a half.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-children-exclusive/exclusive-nearly-1800-families-separated-at-us-mexico-border-in-17-months-through-february-idUSKCN1J42UE

Right now, the primary concern should be getting the children we know have parents here back together, if not for the moral prerogative (but totally for the moral prerogative), then to alleviate all the heat that our country is catching for this.
My next suggestion is to stop "deterring" immigrants this way because it's not working out for anyone except the people funding the detention centers.
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