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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:17:39 AM
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All of you bitching about the detention centers. What is wrong with them? Why should people be allowed to illegally immigrate and not face the consequences?
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ThatMuttGuy
06/20/18 9:18:19 AM
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Don't you have a fake book to write
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eston
06/20/18 9:18:20 AM
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CanuckCowboy
06/20/18 9:18:41 AM
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Is this a serious question?
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:20:35 AM
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eston posted...
These particular consequences are a bit much


How so? No one is being killed or hurt.

CanuckCowboy posted...
Is this a serious question?


Yes. Nothing wrong with detaining illegals or their families until they can be properly deported.
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Renault
06/20/18 9:20:36 AM
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if only laws were enforced when tc assaulted his family members
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:21:19 AM
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Renault posted...
if only laws were enforced when tc assaulted his family members


If only trolls had accurate information.
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Mike Xtreme
06/20/18 9:21:56 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Renault posted...
if only laws were enforced when tc assaulted his family members


If only trolls had accurate information.


lol
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CanuckCowboy
06/20/18 9:21:57 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
eston posted...
These particular consequences are a bit much


How so? No one is being killed or hurt.

CanuckCowboy posted...
Is this a serious question?


Yes. Nothing wrong with detaining illegals or their families until they can be properly deported.


Kinda more to it than that bud.

Also i like how you happily ignore that current policy violates international law. But murica! Right?
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Vyrulisse
06/20/18 9:22:49 AM
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A lot of these families want to get caught because they are seeking asylum yet the only thing they get for their journey is having their family torn apart and children stolen from them. That's what is wrong with it.
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:22:51 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
eston posted...
These particular consequences are a bit much


How so? No one is being killed or hurt.

CanuckCowboy posted...
Is this a serious question?


Yes. Nothing wrong with detaining illegals or their families until they can be properly deported.


Kinda more to it than that bud.

Also i like how you happily ignore that current policy violates international law. But murica! Right?


No, there isn't more to it. Come legally or gtfo.
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eston
06/20/18 9:22:51 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...

How so? No one is being killed or hurt.

Oh it's gonna be one of those topics huh

Renault posted...
if only laws were enforced when tc assaulted his family members

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Kineth
06/20/18 9:23:43 AM
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Yeah, let's start ticketing people for going 1 mile over the speed limit. Good job, TC.
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--Zero-
06/20/18 9:24:19 AM
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Mental health is one of the biggest issues in America. It's perfectly okay to scar a child though.
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:24:22 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
A lot of these families want to get caught because they are seeking asylum yet the only thing they get for their journey is having their family torn apart and children stolen from them. That's what is wrong with it.


No asylum to those who don't immigrate legally. There's no problem with current policy. If anything we need to be more strict.
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Vyrulisse
06/20/18 9:25:47 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
A lot of these families want to get caught because they are seeking asylum yet the only thing they get for their journey is having their family torn apart and children stolen from them. That's what is wrong with it.


No asylum to those who don't immigrate legally. There's no problem with current policy. If anything we need to be more strict.

These people are desperate and don't have the years required to do it "legally". I think you're failing to grasp that.
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CanuckCowboy
06/20/18 9:26:07 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
eston posted...
These particular consequences are a bit much


How so? No one is being killed or hurt.

CanuckCowboy posted...
Is this a serious question?


Yes. Nothing wrong with detaining illegals or their families until they can be properly deported.


Kinda more to it than that bud.

Also i like how you happily ignore that current policy violates international law. But murica! Right?


No, there isn't more to it. Come legally or gtfo.


You're wilfully ignorance and selective response here says it all.

Grow up.
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:27:09 AM
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Kineth posted...
Yeah, let's start ticketing people for going 1 mile over the speed limit. Good job, TC.


That's not the same.

--Zero- posted...
Mental health is one of the biggest issues in America. It's perfectly okay to scar a child though.


Well, their parents should have thought about that before they illegally crossed into America or took up residence.
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:27:37 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
A lot of these families want to get caught because they are seeking asylum yet the only thing they get for their journey is having their family torn apart and children stolen from them. That's what is wrong with it.


No asylum to those who don't immigrate legally. There's no problem with current policy. If anything we need to be more strict.

These people are desperate and don't have the years required to do it "legally". I think you're failing to grasp that.


Too bad then.
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Kineth
06/20/18 9:28:21 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Kineth posted...
Yeah, let's start ticketing people for going 1 mile over the speed limit. Good job, TC.


That's not the same.


What the fuck is wrong with enforcing the law?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/20/18 9:28:51 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
A lot of these families want to get caught because they are seeking asylum yet the only thing they get for their journey is having their family torn apart and children stolen from them. That's what is wrong with it.


If you're seeking asylum, seek it in one of the half dozen countries you've been to on your way eh? Why aren't they Mexico's problem?
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:28:59 AM
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M_Live posted...
Law =/= fair =/= just =/= right

It used to be legal to beat your wife and kids, it used to be illegal to consume alcohol, it use to be legal to segregate society based on skin color. Get your head out of your ass.


Stop being a bleeding heart and excusing these people's actions.
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Kineth
06/20/18 9:30:14 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Stop being a bleeding heart and excusing these people's actions.


Take your own advice.
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:31:43 AM
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Kineth posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Stop being a bleeding heart and excusing these people's actions.


Take your own advice.


I'm not excusing them though. I want them to face the consequences, and they are. Don't want to be separated from your children? Don't come here illegally.
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Zikten
06/20/18 9:33:44 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
How so? No one is being killed or hurt.

not true. the kids are being abused. and some have vanished and been lost by the government

also, you say punish those who break the law. the kids didn't break any laws. they were dragged to the border by their parents. punish the parents not the kids.
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Kineth
06/20/18 9:35:06 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
I'm not excusing them though


Don't back down from your stance. You know damn well whose actions I'm saying you're excusing and it's not the people you chose in that post.
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NeuralLaxative
06/20/18 9:35:13 AM
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Lol guys are we really expecting someone who choked their own mother and needed a court order to stop drinking to have a moral compass? Why you even arguing with this dude
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:35:26 AM
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Zikten posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
How so? No one is being killed or hurt.

not true. the kids are being abused. and some have vanished and been lost by the government

also, you say punish those who break the law. the kids didn't break any laws. they were dragged to the border by their parents. punish the parents not the kids.


While the parents are being punished, the kids need somewhere to go. That's where the detention centers come in.
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pinky0926
06/20/18 9:35:36 AM
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Obviously this entire situation is fucking wrong and anyone who wants to stop and look at it shouldn't feel the need to defend it

Protect your borders, but don't treat children cruelly. It shouldn't be that hard, but apparently it is
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Kineth
06/20/18 9:35:48 AM
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NeuralLaxative posted...
Lol guys are we really expecting someone who choked their own mother and needed a court order to stop drinking to have a moral compass? Why you even arguing with this dude


Wait, is this really a thing?

Welp.
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:36:05 AM
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Kineth posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
I'm not excusing them though


Don't back down from your stance. You know damn well whose actions I'm saying you're excusing and it's not the people you chose in that post.


Oh, ICE? They're doing fantastic work.
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Zikten
06/20/18 9:36:07 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
While the parents are being punished, the kids need somewhere to go. That's where the detention centers come in.

the detention centers are inhumane though. the kids are being harmed. some have been raped or murdered. and the people working at the centers are racist and cruel to the kids.
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RebelElite791
06/20/18 9:36:12 AM
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Alcoholic who beat his own mother now cares about laws
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pinky0926
06/20/18 9:36:13 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Zikten posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
How so? No one is being killed or hurt.

not true. the kids are being abused. and some have vanished and been lost by the government

also, you say punish those who break the law. the kids didn't break any laws. they were dragged to the border by their parents. punish the parents not the kids.


While the parents are being punished, the kids need somewhere to go. That's where the detention centers come in.


Ah ok so this isn't actually about being humane or doing the practical thing, this is about making sure someone gets punished no matter what
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:38:00 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Obviously this entire situation is fucking wrong and anyone who wants to stop and look at it shouldn't feel the need to defend it

Protect your borders, but don't treat children cruelly. It shouldn't be that hard, but apparently it is


They are not being treated cruelly. Where are we supposed to put them while their parents are prosecuted?
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:38:40 AM
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Zikten posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
While the parents are being punished, the kids need somewhere to go. That's where the detention centers come in.

the detention centers are inhumane though. the kids are being harmed. some have been raped or murdered. and the people working at the centers are racist and cruel to the kids.


I don't believe any of that is true.
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CM_Ponch
06/20/18 9:39:17 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Alcoholic who beat his own mother now cares about laws

Clearly the fault of illegal immigrants
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:40:23 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Obviously this entire situation is fucking wrong and anyone who wants to stop and look at it shouldn't feel the need to defend it

Protect your borders, but don't treat children cruelly. It shouldn't be that hard, but apparently it is


They are not being treated cruelly. Where are we supposed to put them while their parents are prosecuted?


I'm not even sure how you can say that while keeping a straight face.

Separating children from their parents in this scenario is absolutely cruel.


So these children should go to adult jail?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/20/18 9:40:34 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
Alcoholic who beat his own mother now cares about laws

Clearly the fault of illegal immigrants

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Kineth
06/20/18 9:41:57 AM
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Gonna admit it. I marked all of TC's posts in this topic as trolling. This is pretty fucking disgusting and I think I need to take a shower to wash this filth off.
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pinky0926
06/20/18 9:42:06 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Obviously this entire situation is fucking wrong and anyone who wants to stop and look at it shouldn't feel the need to defend it

Protect your borders, but don't treat children cruelly. It shouldn't be that hard, but apparently it is


They are not being treated cruelly. Where are we supposed to put them while their parents are prosecuted?


if you have to treat a human child like that in order to exact punishment then the punishment is not worth it.

This is why it's hard to take "the party of family values" seriously, because their priorities are really out of fucking whack right now if the question is "but how do we punish the parents" instead of "how do we protect the welfare of the kids".
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creativerealms
06/20/18 9:43:44 AM
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What is wrong with being against unjust laws?
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Tmaster148
06/20/18 9:43:44 AM
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If you are in power and you think the law is bad you don't actually have to enforce it.

Trump's admin doesn't have to separate children from their parents even if the law allows it.
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_Goggalor_
06/20/18 9:48:04 AM
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Kineth posted...
Gonna admit it. I marked all of TC's posts in this topic as trolling. This is pretty fucking disgusting and I think I need to take a shower to wash this filth off.


Wanting to enforce border laws is 100% not trolling.
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DifferentialEquation
06/20/18 9:48:36 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
If you are in power and you think the law is bad you don't actually have to enforce it.

Trump's admin doesn't have to separate children from their parents even if the law allows it.


If they take the parents into custody then they cannot legally keep them with their kids. The only other option would be to release them into the country and hope that they actually return for their hearing and don't flee to a sanctuary city. Maybe if the left didn't undermine immigration law at every opportunity then that might actually be feasible.
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