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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 10:38:46 AM #101: |
CM_Ponch posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...CM_Ponch posted..._Goggalor_ posted..."If you beat your mother unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It's that simple. ... If you are assaulting your mother, then we will prosecute you and that alcohol will be separated from you as required by law. If you don't like that, then don't assault your mother" No, but it is when there are mitigating factors involved with the case. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 06/20/18 10:40:57 AM #102: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
Vyrulisse posted..._Goggalor_ posted...Vyrulisse posted..._Goggalor_ posted..."If you cross this border unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It's that simple. ... If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you and that child will be separated from you as required by law. If you don't like that, then don't smuggle children over our border." Not the challenge I presented to you. If it's so easy to "seek it legally" as you keep spouting please inform me how. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeoShadowhen 06/20/18 10:41:38 AM #104: |
Well, I think we've learned something. The best way to get a law changed is to actually enforce it.
It motivates people to action. I get that changing laws is work and it's a lot easier to just not enforce them, but that is ultimately a short term solution and undermines the entire system of the law. That being said, I hope all of this does result in a change to the existing laws. We need to a more streamlined process for dealing with this influx, but we also just can't release people into the country after making them pinky swear they'll come to their court date. It seems as though we are handling adults and unaccompanied minors in the appropriate way, but when it comes to minors who are accompanied by adults their relation to which is as of yet undetermined needs some ironing out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 10:43:24 AM #105: |
Here is what ICE has officially released as footage, keeping in mind that the reporters seen were not allowed to film things on their own or talk to any children. This is their "polished" version of events. ? The center looks fine and a child crying is not abusive. The agent was kind to the little girl in that second clip. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/20/18 10:43:41 AM #106: |
Knowledge_King posted...
3. Wealthy people contribute more to the country. What do they contribute more of? To be fair, empathy (or in this case sympathy) isn't part of the law. No laws should be made on such feelings. You call it feelings, others call it understanding. That's why people who murder someone breaking into their house or sexually assaulting their kid, get a slap on the wrist. To suggest that they're unnecessary in the legal system or in general is sociopathic. Zero tolerance policies are garbage and always have been. The letter of the law goes hand in hand with the spirit of the law. IMO it makes sense that we capture people and separate them from their children. For one thing, we don't know the child is theirs. For another, if they're being detained so they can be trialed, then a child can't be held in the same place. That's always how it's been lawfully. Since when are we putting illegal immigrants on trial for being sojourners? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gp1829 06/20/18 10:43:56 AM #107: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
CM_Ponch posted..._Goggalor_ posted...CM_Ponch posted..._Goggalor_ posted..."If you beat your mother unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It's that simple. ... If you are assaulting your mother, then we will prosecute you and that alcohol will be separated from you as required by law. If you don't like that, then don't assault your mother" Is seeking asylum and fleeing from drug cartels and gangs not a mitigating factor in these boarder crossings? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 06/20/18 10:44:26 AM #108: |
"What is wrong with enforcing the law?" - 18th century whites on the subject of blacks being put into chains and whipped
--- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 10:45:19 AM #109: |
gp1829 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...CM_Ponch posted..._Goggalor_ posted...CM_Ponch posted..._Goggalor_ posted..."If you beat your mother unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It's that simple. ... If you are assaulting your mother, then we will prosecute you and that alcohol will be separated from you as required by law. If you don't like that, then don't assault your mother" No. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/20/18 10:46:06 AM #110: |
gp1829 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...CM_Ponch posted..._Goggalor_ posted...CM_Ponch posted..._Goggalor_ posted..."If you beat your mother unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It's that simple. ... If you are assaulting your mother, then we will prosecute you and that alcohol will be separated from you as required by law. If you don't like that, then don't assault your mother" Hate to say it, but you're wasting your time. Still good on you to fight the good fight. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gp1829 06/20/18 10:47:28 AM #111: |
Kineth posted...
gp1829 posted..._Goggalor_ posted...CM_Ponch posted..._Goggalor_ posted...CM_Ponch posted..._Goggalor_ posted..."If you beat your mother unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It's that simple. ... If you are assaulting your mother, then we will prosecute you and that alcohol will be separated from you as required by law. If you don't like that, then don't assault your mother" I am not going to respond to him again it's clear he has his mind made up and thinks of non Americans as less than human. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 10:50:42 AM #112: |
I don't think of them as Americans. Because they're not and their country's problems are not ours to deal with.
--- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 06/20/18 10:51:24 AM #113: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
I don't think of them as Americans. Because they're not and their country's problems are not ours to deal with. Our country prided itself on being a nation of immigrants, that's what made us different and special. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/20/18 10:53:06 AM #114: |
Vyrulisse posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...I don't think of them as Americans. Because they're not and their country's problems are not ours to deal with. Yeah, it's pretty anti-American to support any of this immigration mess, but I have a feeling that TC isn't even American or, rather, failed all of his history classes. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 10:53:17 AM #115: |
Vyrulisse posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...I don't think of them as Americans. Because they're not and their country's problems are not ours to deal with. Used to until we got walked all over and had our laws shit on. Also, we don't want to end up like Sweden or France, thank you. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarqueeSeries 06/20/18 10:56:38 AM #116: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
Kineth posted...Yeah, let's start ticketing people for going 1 mile over the speed limit. Good job, TC. Gold medal mental gymnastics Maybe if you put stuff like this in your books, people would actually buy them --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 06/20/18 10:57:55 AM #117: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
Vyrulisse posted..._Goggalor_ posted...I don't think of them as Americans. Because they're not and their country's problems are not ours to deal with. sweden and france are fine stop letting yourself be brainwashed by alt right media --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 10:59:28 AM #118: |
mario2000 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...Vyrulisse posted..._Goggalor_ posted...I don't think of them as Americans. Because they're not and their country's problems are not ours to deal with. So the sanctuary city where the reporters were chased out by migrants wasn't real? Of the van attacks? Or all the knife attacks? Phew, glad I've got you to dispel all of those. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TroutPaste 06/20/18 10:59:40 AM #119: |
Asherlee10 posted...
TroutPaste posted...I think the issue is that legal immigration should take 6 months instead of 20 years Never thought of the fiscal aspect. Wow thanks for sharing that --- Playing: Destiny 2, Ghost Recon Wildlands, SteamWorld Dig, Rayman Legends, Ni No Kuni, Final Fantasy Tactics WoTL Steam 4leaf440 XB FourLeaf440 PS TroutPaste89 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 06/20/18 11:05:39 AM #120: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
mario2000 posted..._Goggalor_ posted...Vyrulisse posted..._Goggalor_ posted...I don't think of them as Americans. Because they're not and their country's problems are not ours to deal with. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/crime-sweden-rape-capital-europe/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/crime-sweden-part-ii-refugee-men-overrepresented-swedish-crime/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sweden-crime-no-go-zone-police/ --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:08:14 AM #121: |
mario2000 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...mario2000 posted..._Goggalor_ posted...Vyrulisse posted..._Goggalor_ posted...I don't think of them as Americans. Because they're not and their country's problems are not ours to deal with. Article mentions that there is high crime in those areas and the residents don't want to assimilate. Still a problem. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/20/18 11:10:01 AM #122: |
Why don't you read that book instead of posting this garbage on the internet?
--- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:10:54 AM #123: |
Kineth posted...
Why don't you read that book instead of posting this garbage on the internet? To combat the bleeding heart garbage from the left. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 06/20/18 11:10:55 AM #124: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
mario2000 posted..._Goggalor_ posted...mario2000 posted..._Goggalor_ posted...Vyrulisse posted..._Goggalor_ posted...I don't think of them as Americans. Because they're not and their country's problems are not ours to deal with. yep, still a problem, but nowhere near as bad as breitbart has led you to believe objectively speaking, sweden is safer than the US --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 06/20/18 11:18:25 AM #125: |
Asherlee10 posted...
I see a better solution is to put them on the path to legal residency. Why is it the US taxpayers responsibility to house, feed, clothe, provide healthcare, and educate the children of Mexico and Central America? You know what signal is sent out if we say impoverished families that make it to the US get to stay here. This is short sighted sentimentality. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 06/20/18 11:20:36 AM #126: |
tennisdude818 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...I see a better solution is to put them on the path to legal residency. https://www.nps.gov/stli/learn/historyculture/colossus.htm --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 06/20/18 11:21:55 AM #127: |
tennisdude818 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...I see a better solution is to put them on the path to legal residency. i'd rather my tax dollars go to taking care of people in need than 50 more rockets that are gonna kill children in the middle east --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:21:57 AM #128: |
Vyrulisse posted...
tennisdude818 posted...Asherlee10 posted...I see a better solution is to put them on the path to legal residency. No longer applies and never did mean "Everyone gets to come here whenever they want". --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 06/20/18 11:23:21 AM #129: |
Vyrulisse posted...
tennisdude818 posted...Asherlee10 posted...I see a better solution is to put them on the path to legal residency. You can maintain open borders or a welfare state. Pick one. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 06/20/18 11:24:33 AM #130: |
mario2000 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...Asherlee10 posted...I see a better solution is to put them on the path to legal residency. Im as opposed to the military industrial complex as anyone. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 06/20/18 11:24:44 AM #131: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
Vyrulisse posted...tennisdude818 posted...Asherlee10 posted...I see a better solution is to put them on the path to legal residency. now tell us your opinion on the 2nd amendment --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:28:37 AM #132: |
https://www.facebook.com/100023929088818/posts/230981497709485/
Lol. Yet Trump is the bad guy. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 06/20/18 11:29:59 AM #133: |
trump is the current president and is the one currently deciding policy so yes he is the bad guy
--- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:30:51 AM #134: |
mario2000 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...Vyrulisse posted...tennisdude818 posted...Asherlee10 posted...I see a better solution is to put them on the path to legal residency. It's fine as is. It was meant to give the people a chance to defend themselves against a tyrannical government, but of course our current government is A. Not tyrannical, and B. Would easily crush any civilian militia. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:31:29 AM #135: |
mario2000 posted...
trump is the current president and is the one currently deciding policy so yes he is the bad guy So Obama was a bad guy too? You're admitting it? --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 06/20/18 11:34:22 AM #136: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
Kineth posted...Why don't you read that book instead of posting this garbage on the internet? Because defending separating children and sending them to concentration camps is soooo much better. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:35:51 AM #137: |
Tmaster148 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...Kineth posted...Why don't you read that book instead of posting this garbage on the internet? They're not concentration camps. They have food and shelter and everything. And they wouldn't be separated if their parents followed the law. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 06/20/18 11:37:08 AM #138: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
Tmaster148 posted..._Goggalor_ posted...Kineth posted...Why don't you read that book instead of posting this garbage on the internet? You do know that previous concentration camps have also provided food and shelter. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MFBKBass5 06/20/18 11:37:13 AM #139: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
All of you bitching about the detention centers. What is wrong with them? Why should people be allowed to illegally immigrate and not face the consequences? Morality and legality are not the same thing at all. If you assume that laws follow any type of moral guidelines, youre just an ignorant ****. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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crennigo 06/20/18 11:37:16 AM #140: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
All of you bitching about the detention centers. What is wrong with them? Why should people be allowed to illegally immigrate and not face the consequences? If there were more people with your asinine opinion, america would still be governed by England. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 06/20/18 11:37:54 AM #141: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
Tmaster148 posted..._Goggalor_ posted...Kineth posted...Why don't you read that book instead of posting this garbage on the internet? They are in a place completely alien to them without understanding why, their parents might as well be gone forever because they don't know anything about them either. Imagine being a child and not knowing why you're in a cage or where you even are or what happened to your life. Try to imagine that sheer terror and you'll see why them having food and shelter is a stupid argument. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:40:02 AM #142: |
Vyrulisse posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...Tmaster148 posted..._Goggalor_ posted...Kineth posted...Why don't you read that book instead of posting this garbage on the internet? You know who I'd be mad at if I was one of these kids? My parents. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 06/20/18 11:42:31 AM #144: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
You know who I'd be mad at if I was one of these kids? My parents. I think everyone is mad at your parents for bringing you into this world. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 06/20/18 11:42:51 AM #145: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
mario2000 posted...trump is the current president and is the one currently deciding policy so yes he is the bad guy can you not read? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:43:44 AM #146: |
mario2000 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...mario2000 posted...trump is the current president and is the one currently deciding policy so yes he is the bad guy But Obama had similar policies. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 06/20/18 11:44:16 AM #147: |
There are a lot of people who seem to support cutting in line or queue jumping here.
I have nothing against people trying to immigrate here, but when you're arguing path to residency for illegals who get caught here you're effectively saying it is ok for them to get preferential treatment /priority processing over people who wait patiently and follow the proper procedure. --- ~Yuki~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 06/20/18 11:45:02 AM #148: |
DragonGirlYuki posted...
There are a lot of people who seem to support cutting in line or queue jumping here. Watch them ignore you to attack me. --- Reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 06/20/18 11:46:33 AM #149: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
But Obama you people are never going to stop, are you? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gp1829 06/20/18 11:47:58 AM #150: |
_Goggalor_ posted...
Vyrulisse posted..._Goggalor_ posted...Tmaster148 posted..._Goggalor_ posted...Kineth posted...Why don't you read that book instead of posting this garbage on the internet? Mad enough to choke them? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PepperoniDemon 06/20/18 11:50:59 AM #151: |
Nothing but people are petty
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