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Patchwork 06/21/18 2:00:08 PM #1: |
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/21/us/east-pittsburgh-police-fatal-shooting-antwon-rose/index.html
(CNN) Hours after being sworn in on the local force, a suburban Pittsburgh officer fatally shot an unarmed 17-year-old who ran when police stopped a vehicle that was suspected to be involved in an earlier shooting, authorities said. Thoughts, CE? This one is pretty close to home. I'm surprised there wasn't a topic about it already. Also, I only pasted up to the first break. I'm on my phone. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monolith1676 06/21/18 2:17:25 PM #2: |
From what is initially being said it seems like the cop is in the wrong but I will wait for an actual investigation.
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Zikten 06/21/18 2:20:13 PM #3: |
fuck this cop but he will get off. they always do
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Abyssea 06/21/18 2:20:53 PM #4: |
When you consider the situation, I don't think the cop acted unreasonably. In the moment there wasn't any way to know if the guy was armed or not.
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ProbablyaCat 06/21/18 2:21:54 PM #5: |
No point in shooting him if he's trying to run.
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Zikten 06/21/18 2:22:17 PM #6: |
just because a guy has a gun doesn't mean he's planning to use it on innocent people. that's an assumption of the cop's part. and assumptions that lead to murder are fucked up
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Shelhamer92 06/21/18 2:23:14 PM #7: |
Real question: would tranquilizer guns work? I feel like we have to have the technology to incapacitate people from the same distance as a bullet.
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BLAKUboy 06/21/18 2:23:20 PM #8: |
Contrary to what the police will tell you, running is not a crime.
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SpinKirby 06/21/18 2:24:38 PM #9: |
BLAKUboy posted...
Contrary to what the police will tell you, running is not a crime. Resisting arrest is. So is disobeying police. --- MHW Supplemental Discord: https://discord.gg/ChHjtYQ https://imgur.com/QL6WJAl https://imgur.com/lGlcDyU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 06/21/18 2:24:57 PM #10: |
I don't know why so many people run. Your going to get caught
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Abyssea 06/21/18 2:25:03 PM #11: |
He shouldn't have run. Your first instinct being to book it when the police pull you over makes you look pretty suspicious. What was the cop supposed to think?
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VectorChaos 06/21/18 2:25:36 PM #12: |
Zikten posted...
just because a guy has a gun doesn't mean he's planning to use it on innocent people. that's an assumption of the cop's part. and assumptions that lead to murder are fucked up *cop doesn't act* *suspect kills someone in a carjacking to aid his escape* Same people: Why didn't the police do MORE?! --- "Donald Trump has the most presidential penis of all time" - DifferentialEquation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir Will 06/21/18 2:42:02 PM #13: |
Shelhamer92 posted...
Real question: would tranquilizer guns work? I feel like we have to have the technology to incapacitate people from the same distance as a bullet. Tranqs don't work like they do on tv. They're hard to use (need to be kept cool), can take awhile to work, and can be dangerous. People are very different sizes. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sabram 06/21/18 3:07:01 PM #14: |
Considering the car that the cop pulled over matched one used by someone in an earlier shooting, and then the kid started to run away after being pulled over, it's a reasonable suspicion that the person was armed and dangerous.
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Le__seul_dieu__ 06/21/18 3:10:56 PM #15: |
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Zikten 06/21/18 3:10:57 PM #16: |
the cops are more wrong than right about armed or unarmed. how many times do we see "unarmed person shot" in the news? I wouldn't trust a cop's judgement on if someone is armed. just by sheer odds, if a cop thinks someone is armed, I'm gonna think they probably aren't
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Monolith1676 06/21/18 3:14:42 PM #17: |
Zikten posted...
the cops are more wrong than right about armed or unarmed. how many times do we see "unarmed person shot" in the news? I wouldn't trust a cop's judgement on if someone is armed. just by sheer odds, if a cop thinks someone is armed, I'm gonna think they probably aren't Unarmed people are just as dangerous. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 06/21/18 3:17:15 PM #18: |
you can;t just murder a person cause you think they might attack someone, with no proof of that. might as well just shoot all people at all times then. they might attack someone!
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Monolith1676 06/21/18 3:20:02 PM #19: |
Zikten posted...
you can;t just murder a person cause you think they might attack someone, with no proof of that. might as well just shoot all people at all times then. they might attack someone! Of course not. I was just stating that treating unarmed people as not possibly dangerous is a way of getting hurt. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 06/21/18 6:14:59 PM #20: |
Sabram posted...
Considering the car that the cop pulled over matched one used by someone in an earlier shooting, and then the kid started to run away after being pulled over, it's a reasonable suspicion that the person was armed and dangerous. Not only did it match the description; it was the vehicle that was used in a drive by about 20 minutes earlier. There was damage from the earlier victim returning fire. Two handguns were found in the vehicle. This one isn't cut-and-dry. That's why I wanted to discuss it. Tennessee v. Garner gives police the authority to use deadly force on a fleeing suspect if the officer has probable cause to believe the suspect is armed and is a danger to others or to the officer. This comes down to whether he had that PC. In my opinion, he does; the vehicle matched the description of one used in a drive-by, had bullet holes in it, contained two firearms, and two suspects fled. Would a reasonable person, knowing all of this, believe that suspect to be armed? Now, think of that in light of the Brian Shaw shooting in New Kensington in November. Ofc. Shaw chased a suspect around a building with his taser out rather than his gun; he was subsequently murdered when that suspect spun on him and opened fire. No incident happens in a vacuum; to say the officer is outright wrong is an oversimplification. To say the kid deserved to die, or anything along those lines, is another gross oversimplification. This is the nature of the beast. That officer's worst mistake was his first one; he didn't wait for backup before stopping the vehicle. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkTransient 06/21/18 6:18:38 PM #21: |
> were involved in a shooting earlier
> attempted to flee from police 100% fair next. And once again, BLM chooses the worst possible poster children they can - it's almost as if they know there's more to the story, and deliberately pick a story where their followers will blindly accept it as unjustified police brutality but their opponents will quickly realise there's more to the story and that the shooting was justified, purely for the sake of creating divisiveness. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Abyssea 06/21/18 6:26:29 PM #22: |
can we please not try to make a martyr out of this one? Anyone who actually reads the entire article will lose sympathy for him, and this is coming from a democrat. This isn't the hill to die on. The "young boy" was involved in a shooting that same day. He isn't a sparkling pillar of virtue in any sense of the word.
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FeatherCoin462 06/21/18 6:28:16 PM #23: |
Why did he run?
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Abyssea 06/21/18 6:30:44 PM #24: |
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Why did he run? because innocent people always try to book it when a cop pulls them over I guess --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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