Current Events > In Major Privacy Win, Supreme Court Rules Police Need Warrant To Track Cellphone

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Muffinz0rz 06/22/18 11:15:43 AM #1:	https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/605007387/supreme-court-rules-police-need-warrant-to-get-location-information-from-cell-to --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (4-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:903757025] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/605007387/supreme-court-rules-police-need-warrant-to-get-location-information-from-cell-to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/22/18 11:17:18 AM #2:	enjoy privacy while it lasts Conservatives are tearing it down left right and center --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:903757108] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote>enjoy privacy while it lasts Conservatives are tearing it down left right and center</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthGravid 06/22/18 11:35:12 AM #3:	Does this cover the use of Stingray devices? I didn't see anything about that. Also, the practice of "parallel construction" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction) isn't covered. Police have no problem gathering evidence without a warrant (inadmissible) as long as they can build a case with separate evidence. For example, they know that someone is stealing cars and have found the chop shop by tracking them with a Stingray device. They then listen to phone calls to determine when a sale of stolen parts is happening. They wait near the location of the sale, and then bam, "suspicious activity", and "accidentally" uncover a stolen car ring. This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases. --- Torn between two minds. Is either correct? Perhaps together.....but how? Can it be done? <cite>DarthGravid posted [p:903757966] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote>Does this cover the use of Stingray devices? I didn't see anything about that. Also, the practice of "parallel construction" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction) isn't covered. Police have no problem gathering evidence without a warrant (inadmissible) as long as they can build a case with separate evidence. For example, they know that someone is stealing cars and have found the chop shop by tracking them with a Stingray device. They then listen to phone calls to determine when a sale of stolen parts is happening. They wait near the location of the sale, and then bam, "suspicious activity", and "accidentally" uncover a stolen car ring. This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/22/18 11:42:48 AM #4:	DarthGravid posted... This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases. Source? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:903758310] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote>This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases.</quote> Source?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 06/22/18 11:44:15 AM #6:	What a surprise, Trumps SCOTUS pick dissented against this --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:903758402] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote>What a surprise, Trumps SCOTUS pick dissented against this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bacon_Pancakes 06/22/18 11:45:02 AM #7:	Yeah a warrant to check the actual phone doesn't matter when the FBI is reading all your texts in the first place! <cite>Bacon_Pancakes posted [p:903758448] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote>Yeah a warrant to check the actual phone doesn't matter when the FBI is reading all your texts in the first place!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 06/22/18 11:45:43 AM #8:	UnfairRepresent posted... enjoy privacy while it lasts Democrats* are tearing it down left right and center fix'd <cite>iClockwork posted [p:903758487] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>enjoy privacy while it lasts Democrats* are tearing it down left right and center</quote> fix'd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 06/22/18 11:48:35 AM #9:	Doom_Art posted... What a surprise, Trumps SCOTUS pick dissented against this It's amazing that we're suppose to take the court seriously when this shit almost always comes down to party lines instead of "well what does the constitution say?" --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:903758618] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>What a surprise, Trumps SCOTUS pick dissented against this</quote> It's amazing that we're suppose to take the court seriously when this shit almost always comes down to party lines instead of "well what does the constitution say?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 06/22/18 11:51:37 AM #11:	Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the 5-to-4 decision, joining the court's four liberals. Meh. Just wait until Ginsburg retires and Trump gets to replace her by another Scalia and they'll reverse the shit out of this. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:903758769] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><quote>Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the 5-to-4 decision, joining the court's four liberals. </quote> Meh. Just wait until Ginsburg retires and Trump gets to replace her by another Scalia and they'll reverse the shit out of this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthGravid 06/22/18 11:56:46 AM #12:	UnfairRepresent posted... DarthGravid posted... This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases. Source? I can't credibly source this, because these illegal tactics are intentionally hidden, to circumvent the law. --- Torn between two minds. Is either correct? Perhaps together.....but how? Can it be done? <cite>DarthGravid posted [p:903759032] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote>This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases.</quote> Source?</quote> I can't credibly source this, because these illegal tactics are intentionally hidden, to circumvent the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gheb 06/22/18 11:58:01 AM #13:	frozenshock posted... Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the 5-to-4 decision, joining the court's four liberals. Meh. Just wait until Ginsburg retires and Trump gets to replace her by another Scalia and they'll reverse the shit out of this. Ginsburg would have to die. She won't retire while Trump is in office. --- S** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again.* - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl <cite>Gheb posted [p:903759098] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the 5-to-4 decision, joining the court's four liberals. </quote> Meh. Just wait until Ginsburg retires and Trump gets to replace her by another Scalia and they'll reverse the shit out of this.</quote> Ginsburg would have to die. She won't retire while Trump is in office.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 06/22/18 11:59:20 AM #14:	iClockwork posted... UnfairRepresent posted... enjoy privacy while it lasts Democrats* are tearing it down left right and center fix'd Literally the opposite of what happened here lmao. frozenshock posted... Meh. Just wait until Ginsburg retires and Trump gets to replace her by another Scalia and they'll reverse the shit out of this. Ginsburg won't retire under Trump. She'd rather die on the bench than allow him to replace her. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:903759157] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>enjoy privacy while it lasts Democrats* are tearing it down left right and center</quote> fix'd</quote> Literally the opposite of what happened here lmao. <cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Meh. Just wait until Ginsburg retires and Trump gets to replace her by another Scalia and they'll reverse the shit out of this. </quote> Ginsburg won't retire under Trump. She'd rather die on the bench than allow him to replace her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 06/22/18 12:01:06 PM #15:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Ginsburg won't retire under Trump. She'd rather die on the bench than allow him to replace her. She's 85 years old. I'm sure she would love to be able to stay until Trump is out of office, but it might not be possible. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:903759251] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Ginsburg won't retire under Trump. She'd rather die on the bench than allow him to replace her.</quote> She's 85 years old. I'm sure she would love to be able to stay until Trump is out of office, but it might not be possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 06/22/18 12:02:50 PM #16:	frozenshock posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Ginsburg won't retire under Trump. She'd rather die on the bench than allow him to replace her. She's 85 years old. I'm sure she would love to be able to stay until Trump is out of office, but it might not be possible. Hence why it'll take death for her to leave under his Presidency, guaranteed. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:903759343] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Ginsburg won't retire under Trump. She'd rather die on the bench than allow him to replace her.</quote> She's 85 years old. I'm sure she would love to be able to stay until Trump is out of office, but it might not be possible.</quote> Hence why it'll take death for her to leave under his Presidency, guaranteed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/22/18 12:04:01 PM #17:	DarthGravid posted... UnfairRepresent posted... DarthGravid posted... This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases. Source? I can't credibly source this, because these illegal tactics are intentionally hidden, to circumvent the law. That's a circular argument --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:903759400] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote>This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases.</quote> Source?</quote> I can't credibly source this, because these illegal tactics are intentionally hidden, to circumvent the law.</quote> That's a circular argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 06/22/18 12:04:33 PM #18:	DarthGravid posted... Does this cover the use of Stingray devices? I didn't see anything about that. Also, the practice of "parallel construction" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction) isn't covered. Police have no problem gathering evidence without a warrant (inadmissible) as long as they can build a case with separate evidence. For example, they know that someone is stealing cars and have found the chop shop by tracking them with a Stingray device. They then listen to phone calls to determine when a sale of stolen parts is happening. They wait near the location of the sale, and then bam, "suspicious activity", and "accidentally" uncover a stolen car ring. This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases. Yeah, and a good lawyer can get the thief off using the poison tree doctrine. That is to say "Any evidence obtained using inadmissible evidence is itself inadmissible." --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:903759427] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote>Does this cover the use of Stingray devices? I didn't see anything about that. Also, the practice of "parallel construction" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction) isn't covered. Police have no problem gathering evidence without a warrant (inadmissible) as long as they can build a case with separate evidence. For example, they know that someone is stealing cars and have found the chop shop by tracking them with a Stingray device. They then listen to phone calls to determine when a sale of stolen parts is happening. They wait near the location of the sale, and then bam, "suspicious activity", and "accidentally" uncover a stolen car ring. This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases.</quote> Yeah, and a good lawyer can get the thief off using the poison tree doctrine. That is to say "Any evidence obtained using inadmissible evidence is itself inadmissible."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smoke944 06/22/18 12:09:55 PM #19:	Doom_Art posted... What a surprise, Trumps SCOTUS pick dissented against this Lol, conservatism really isnt an actual thing. Pro small government my ass. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCCEAjDU7U <cite>Smoke944 posted [p:903759700] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>What a surprise, Trumps SCOTUS pick dissented against this</quote> Lol, conservatism really isnt an actual thing. Pro small government my ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 06/22/18 12:12:20 PM #20:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Hence why it'll take death for her to leave under his Presidency, guaranteed. He already publicly asked her to resign: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/753090242203283457 --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:903759827] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote> Hence why it'll take death for her to leave under his Presidency, guaranteed.</quote> He already publicly asked her to resign: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/753090242203283457</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthGravid 06/22/18 12:13:13 PM #21:	UnfairRepresent posted... DarthGravid posted... UnfairRepresent posted... DarthGravid posted... This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases. Source? I can't credibly source this, because these illegal tactics are intentionally hidden, to circumvent the law. That's a circular argument Fair enough. This story came from a Sheriff's Deputy in a densely populated county, who was railroaded by his superiors for questioning the legality of this practice. I said that I can't credibly source this because, for all intents and purposes, it's hearsay. I cannot provide further evidence than that. --- Torn between two minds. Is either correct? Perhaps together.....but how? Can it be done? <cite>DarthGravid posted [p:903759878] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthGravid posted...</cite> <quote>This is anecdotal, but it's exactly how it goes down in many cases.</quote> Source?</quote> I can't credibly source this, because these illegal tactics are intentionally hidden, to circumvent the law.</quote> That's a circular argument</quote> Fair enough. This story came from a Sheriff's Deputy in a densely populated county, who was railroaded by his superiors for questioning the legality of this practice. I said that I can't credibly source this because, for all intents and purposes, it's hearsay. I cannot provide further evidence than that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 06/22/18 12:13:20 PM #22:	iClockwork posted... UnfairRepresent posted... enjoy privacy while it lasts Democrats* are tearing it down left right and center fix'd I remember a cretin repub president who backed and signed off on one of the biggest privacy invaders in the history of the United States of America called The Patriot Act. --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:903759881] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>enjoy privacy while it lasts Democrats* are tearing it down left right and center</quote> fix'd</quote> I remember a cretin repub president who backed and signed off on one of the biggest privacy invaders in the history of the United States of America called The Patriot Act.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 06/22/18 1:24:36 PM #23:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Literally the opposite of what happened here lmao. Objectively wrong. A Conservative SC just upheld citizens personal rights. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:903763828] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Literally the opposite of what happened here lmao. </quote> Objectively wrong. A Conservative SC just upheld citizens personal rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 06/22/18 2:28:14 PM #24:	iClockwork posted... A Conservative SC Roberts The other ones (included Trumps guy) dissented --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:903767344] in In Major P... [t:76739579]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote> A Conservative SC</quote> Roberts The other ones (included Trumps guy) dissented</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > In Major Privacy Win, Supreme Court Rules Police Need Warrant To Track Cellphone