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Balrog0 06/22/18 1:24:17 PM #51:	I actually can't see in the resolution where they mention theft at all http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=300303 WHEREAS, the City wishes to uphold constitutional protections, to eliminate any racial disparities associated with discretionary arrests, and to ensure the efficient and equitable use of City resources; and WHEREAS, state law allows use of citation in lieu of arrest for certain misdemeanor offenses, including possession of marijuana, driving while license invalid, and city ordinance violations; and granted I didn't read all of this --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903763809] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote>I actually can't see in the resolution where they mention theft at all http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=300303 WHEREAS, the City wishes to uphold constitutional protections, to eliminate any racial disparities associated with discretionary arrests, and to ensure the efficient and equitable use of City resources; and WHEREAS, state law allows use of citation in lieu of arrest for certain misdemeanor offenses, including possession of marijuana, driving while license invalid, and city ordinance violations; and granted I didn't read all of this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/22/18 1:30:24 PM #53:	yeah, but it says 'certain misdemeanor offenses' and this article says it includes theft specifically, but from the resolutions I can see, I don't see that included in their list of misdemeanors to show discretion for it could be else where or whatever, and it might be inclusive of all misdemeanors and this language could be ornamental; I'm not a lawyer so idk --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903764146] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote>yeah, but it says 'certain misdemeanor offenses' and this article says it includes theft specifically, but from the resolutions I can see, I don't see that included in their list of misdemeanors to show discretion for it could be else where or whatever, and it might be inclusive of all misdemeanors and this language could be ornamental; I'm not a lawyer so idk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 1:32:59 PM #55:	CableZL posted... "Class C" misdemeanor: $50 or less "Class B" misdemeanor: $50 or more, but less than $500 "Class A" misdemeanor: $500 or more, but less than $1,500 State jail felony: $1,500 or more, but less than $20,000 Third degree felony: $20,000 or more, but less than $100,000 Second degree felony: $100,000 or more, but less than $200,000 First degree felony: $200,000 or more Note: Based on the amount or value of property stolen, the penalty will go up. Penalties may range anywhere from a fine of no more than $500 (for a "Class C" misdemeanor), up to 5 to 99 years in prison and/or a fine of no more than $10,000 for a first degree felony. That really needs to be readjusted. Here's what I propose: "Class C" misdemeanor: Less than $10 "Class B" misdemeanor: $10 or more, but less than $100 "Class A" misdemeanor: $100 or more, but less than $1,000 State jail felony: $1,000 or more, but less than $10,000 Third degree felony: $10,000 or more, but less than $50,000 Second degree felony: $50,000 or more, but less than $100,000 First degree felony: $100,000 or more --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903764299] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>"Class C" misdemeanor: $50 or less "Class B" misdemeanor: $50 or more, but less than $500 "Class A" misdemeanor: $500 or more, but less than $1,500 State jail felony: $1,500 or more, but less than $20,000 Third degree felony: $20,000 or more, but less than $100,000 Second degree felony: $100,000 or more, but less than $200,000 First degree felony: $200,000 or more Note: Based on the amount or value of property stolen, the penalty will go up. Penalties may range anywhere from a fine of no more than $500 (for a "Class C" misdemeanor), up to 5 to 99 years in prison and/or a fine of no more than $10,000 for a first degree felony.</quote>That really needs to be readjusted. Here's what I propose: "Class C" misdemeanor: Less than $10 "Class B" misdemeanor: $10 or more, but less than $100 "Class A" misdemeanor: $100 or more, but less than $1,000 State jail felony: $1,000 or more, but less than $10,000 Third degree felony: $10,000 or more, but less than $50,000 Second degree felony: $50,000 or more, but less than $100,000 First degree felony: $100,000 or more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 1:34:25 PM #57:	Asherlee10 posted... Why? I value property, so we should take it more seriously and be harsher on theft. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903764387] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Why?</quote>I value property, so we should take it more seriously and be harsher on theft.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 1:37:05 PM #59:	Asherlee10 posted... The value of the property doesn't change based on the punishment. Just seems like you want to see more punishment for some unknown reason. I just want more thieves to be punished harshly. As somebody who has been the victim of Burglars, I want to see them all suffer. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903764539] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>The value of the property doesn't change based on the punishment. Just seems like you want to see more punishment for some unknown reason.</quote>I just want more thieves to be punished harshly. As somebody who has been the victim of Burglars, I want to see them all suffer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GaryGaryGary 06/22/18 1:37:25 PM #60:	You could move into a Starbucks in Austin and they won't be able to ask you to leave or phone the police if you keep helping yourself to food and drink. <cite>GaryGaryGary posted [p:903764550] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote>You could move into a Starbucks in Austin and they won't be able to ask you to leave or phone the police if you keep helping yourself to food and drink.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 06/22/18 1:39:27 PM #61:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Asherlee10 posted... The value of the property doesn't change based on the punishment. Just seems like you want to see more punishment for some unknown reason. I just want more thieves to be punished harshly. As somebody who has been the victim of Burglars, I want to see them all suffer. Burglary is far more severe than theft. --- https://imgur.com/8pzUM https://imgur.com/Oh1iujg The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:903764655] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>The value of the property doesn't change based on the punishment. Just seems like you want to see more punishment for some unknown reason.</quote>I just want more thieves to be punished harshly. As somebody who has been the victim of Burglars, I want to see them all suffer.</quote> Burglary is far more severe than theft.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 06/22/18 2:04:36 PM #63:	Asherlee10 posted... Why? Because maybe if you're trying to run a store it's costly when people keep coming in and taking shit without paying for it. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:903766050] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Why?</quote> Because maybe if you're trying to run a store it's costly when people keep coming in and taking shit without paying for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 2:04:45 PM #64:	Asherlee10 posted... Why? Why not? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903766065] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Why?</quote>Why not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 2:05:16 PM #65:	LordRazziel posted... Burglary is far more severe than theft. Same difference. You end up being the victim and have lost something. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903766093] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Burglary is far more severe than theft.</quote>Same difference. You end up being the victim and have lost something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/22/18 2:07:12 PM #68:	KamenRiderBlade posted... LordRazziel posted... Burglary is far more severe than theft. Same difference. You end up being the victim and have lost something. Burglary and theft aren't the same thing and that's why they classify it as a different thing. On top of that, petty theft doesn't amount to EVERYTHING. I don't see how you don't get this. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:903766216] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Burglary is far more severe than theft.</quote>Same difference. You end up being the victim and have lost something.</quote> Burglary and theft aren't the same thing and that's why they classify it as a different thing. On top of that, petty theft doesn't amount to EVERYTHING. I don't see how you don't get this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 06/22/18 2:09:46 PM #69:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Asherlee10 posted... Why? Why not? Yeah I'm pretty much in the camp of fuck em. There's too much overpopulation already, I don't see any negative in slowly raising the bar in what it takes to be a free and functioning human in society. That said, we're not going to (nor should we) kill/jail people for stealing a candy bar so any punishment should be more focused on rehabilitation and turning people into better people and repaying society above and beyond the damages. Punishments can be harsh and punitive but they should also be productive. Pissing away more tax dollars is bad but making them work 100 hours of cleaning highways or something would be great. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:903766345] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Why?</quote>Why not?</quote> Yeah I'm pretty much in the camp of fuck em. There's too much overpopulation already, I don't see any negative in slowly raising the bar in what it takes to be a free and functioning human in society. That said, we're not going to (nor should we) kill/jail people for stealing a candy bar so any punishment should be more focused on rehabilitation and turning people into better people and repaying society above and beyond the damages. Punishments can be harsh and punitive but they should also be productive. Pissing away more tax dollars is bad but making them work 100 hours of cleaning highways or something would be great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 06/22/18 2:11:19 PM #70:	KamenRiderBlade posted... LordRazziel posted... Burglary is far more severe than theft. Same difference. You end up being the victim and have lost something. So, stealing 10 dollars worth of stuff from a store should be should be a class c misdemeanor, as should breaking into your home and stealing a 10 spot from your wallet? --- https://imgur.com/8pzUM https://imgur.com/Oh1iujg The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:903766442] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Burglary is far more severe than theft.</quote>Same difference. You end up being the victim and have lost something.</quote> So, stealing 10 dollars worth of stuff from a store should be should be a class c misdemeanor, as should breaking into your home and stealing a 10 spot from your wallet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 06/22/18 2:40:29 PM #72:	Asherlee10 posted... The problem I have with the above is that we need to look at why people are committing petty theft. My entire view got changed from a good friend of mine (harvard grad) who is now a D.A. here in Texas. He said so many people were a product of poverty, horrible luck, and desperation. We need to reduce petty crime/theft by addressing these issues. Plenty of people who live in poverty and have bad luck still choose not to steal. And yes, I get that these factors make becoming a thief more likely, but plenty of people in bad situations still choose to not steal. It's not right to excuse people's bad decisions because of the group/category they belong to. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:903768092] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>The problem I have with the above is that we need to look at why people are committing petty theft. My entire view got changed from a good friend of mine (harvard grad) who is now a D.A. here in Texas. He said so many people were a product of poverty, horrible luck, and desperation. We need to reduce petty crime/theft by addressing these issues.</quote> Plenty of people who live in poverty and have bad luck still choose not to steal. And yes, I get that these factors make becoming a thief more likely, but plenty of people in bad situations still choose to not steal. It's not right to excuse people's bad decisions because of the group/category they belong to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/22/18 2:41:58 PM #73:	Is time in jail the best possible reprisal for these sorts of offenses? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:903768180] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote>Is time in jail the best possible reprisal for these sorts of offenses?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 2:46:10 PM #74:	from what I can tell this is actually a lot like whats going on at the border, in the sense that the reason you would arrest rather than cite someone for something like petty theft is that you worry they won't show up to court so you hold them for trial or until they post bail? for class C misdemeanors which carry no chance of jail time, at least --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903768397] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote>from what I can tell this is actually a lot like whats going on at the border, in the sense that the reason you would arrest rather than cite someone for something like petty theft is that you worry they won't show up to court so you hold them for trial or until they post bail? for class C misdemeanors which carry no chance of jail time, at least</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 06/22/18 3:20:55 PM #75:	eggcorn posted... Paper_Okami posted... southcoast09 posted... Petty theft should be a felony. Yes yes we know you are a joke poster don't have to keep making dumb Posts to prove it lol calm down holy shit. What wasnt calm about that? --- Go Hawkeyes <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:903770313] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>Petty theft should be a felony.</quote> Yes yes we know you are a joke poster don't have to keep making dumb Posts to prove it</quote> lol calm down holy shit.</quote> What wasnt calm about that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 06/22/18 3:24:49 PM #76:	We do arrest more blacks and Hispanics but the problem we have is that people do not want to look at the reasons why, said Casady. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:903770535] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote>We do arrest more blacks and Hispanics but the problem we have is that people do not want to look at the reasons why, said Casady.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 3:25:16 PM #77:	LordRazziel posted... So, stealing 10 dollars worth of stuff from a store should be should be a class c misdemeanor, as should breaking into your home and stealing a 10 spot from your wallet? You loss $10 either way. The only difference is the additional Breaking & Entering / Illegal Trespassing charges on top from the Burglary. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903770554] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>So, stealing 10 dollars worth of stuff from a store should be should be a class c misdemeanor, as should breaking into your home and stealing a 10 spot from your wallet?</quote>You loss $10 either way. The only difference is the additional Breaking & Entering / Illegal Trespassing charges on top from the Burglary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 3:27:00 PM #78:	it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail? personally if it was up to me I'm saying neither. neither helps me, and the adjudication process would certainly take more than $500 in public resources even he just plead guilty which we can't assume r a d i c a l c e n t r i s m --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903770665] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote>it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail? personally if it was up to me I'm saying neither. neither helps me, and the adjudication process would certainly take more than $500 in public resources even he just plead guilty which we can't assume r a d i c a l c e n t r i s m</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 3:27:34 PM #79:	DifferentialEquation posted... Plenty of people who live in poverty and have bad luck still choose not to steal. And yes, I get that these factors make becoming a thief more likely, but plenty of people in bad situations still choose to not steal. It's not right to excuse people's bad decisions because of the group/category they belong to. Doesn't matter what Social Economic Category, Ethnicity, Gender, Sexual Identity, Species, etc. I would treat them all with the same level of punishment. As harsh as possible with no room for leniency. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903770701] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>Plenty of people who live in poverty and have bad luck still choose not to steal. And yes, I get that these factors make becoming a thief more likely, but plenty of people in bad situations still choose to not steal. It's not right to excuse people's bad decisions because of the group/category they belong to.</quote>Doesn't matter what Social Economic Category, Ethnicity, Gender, Sexual Identity, Species, etc. I would treat them all with the same level of punishment. As harsh as possible with no room for leniency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 3:28:08 PM #80:	Balrog0 posted... it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail? Why not 'Fine them' & 'send them to Jail'? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903770736] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail?</quote>Why not 'Fine them' & 'send them to Jail'?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 06/22/18 3:29:03 PM #81:	I don't give a shit about people stealing food or candy or shitty bikes or whatever. It certainly doesn't warrant anything more than a fine --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:903770781] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote>I don't give a shit about people stealing food or candy or shitty bikes or whatever. It certainly doesn't warrant anything more than a fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 3:29:05 PM #82:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Balrog0 posted... it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail? Why not 'Fine them' & 'send them to Jail'? Balrog0 posted... personally if it was up to me I'm saying neither. neither helps me, and the adjudication process would certainly take more than $500 in public resources even he just plead guilty which we can't assume --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903770784] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail?</quote>Why not 'Fine them' & 'send them to Jail'?</quote> <cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>personally if it was up to me I'm saying neither. neither helps me, and the adjudication process would certainly take more than $500 in public resources even he just plead guilty which we can't assume </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 3:30:11 PM #83:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... That said, we're not going to (nor should we) kill/jail people for stealing a candy bar so any punishment should be more focused on rehabilitation and turning people into better people and repaying society above and beyond the damages. Punishments can be harsh and punitive but they should also be productive. Pissing away more tax dollars is bad but making them work 100 hours of cleaning highways or something would be great. As long as they pay their fines, spend the night in jail, then be forced into a chain gang to clean up highways until they're done. It's not just about money, it's about teaching them a harsh lesson for committing a crime. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903770857] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>That said, we're not going to (nor should we) kill/jail people for stealing a candy bar so any punishment should be more focused on rehabilitation and turning people into better people and repaying society above and beyond the damages. Punishments can be harsh and punitive but they should also be productive. Pissing away more tax dollars is bad but making them work 100 hours of cleaning highways or something would be great.</quote>As long as they pay their fines, spend the night in jail, then be forced into a chain gang to clean up highways until they're done. It's not just about money, it's about teaching them a harsh lesson for committing a crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cosmic_Diabetic 06/22/18 3:30:39 PM #84:	eggcorn posted... Paper_Okami posted... southcoast09 posted... Petty theft should be a felony. Yes yes we know you are a joke poster don't have to keep making dumb Posts to prove it lol calm down holy shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObWrdYQ_6xY" data-time=" this is you --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted [p:903770890] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>Petty theft should be a felony.</quote> Yes yes we know you are a joke poster don't have to keep making dumb Posts to prove it</quote> lol calm down holy shit.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObWrdYQ_6xY" data-time=" this is you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 3:33:19 PM #85:	Asherlee10 posted... I'm asking you to expand on what you mean and why. I'm a big believer in harsh punishments, so harsh, that they will have PTSD and never commit crime again. It's more than just the money, it's about breaking their criminal spirit into tiny little pieces that they won't ever commit crime again. And if they keep going at it, I can think of countless methods of harsh punishments that don't involve death. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903771032] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm asking you to expand on what you mean and why.</quote>I'm a big believer in harsh punishments, so harsh, that they will have PTSD and never commit crime again. It's more than just the money, it's about breaking their criminal spirit into tiny little pieces that they won't ever commit crime again. And if they keep going at it, I can think of countless methods of harsh punishments that don't involve death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/22/18 7:02:00 PM #86:	KamenRiderBlade posted... so harsh, that they will have PTSD and never commit crime again. That's not what PTSD tends to do to people. You're just being needlessly, pointlessly cruel. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:903782613] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote>so harsh, that they will have PTSD and never commit crime again.</quote> That's not what PTSD tends to do to people. You're just being needlessly, pointlessly cruel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 7:04:09 PM #87:	Antifar posted... That's not what PTSD tends to do to people. You're just being needlessly, pointlessly cruel. I disagree, a heavy fear needs to be instilled into those criminals so that they will fear committing a crime ever again. Or else we'll have to think of ever harsher methods to instill that fear. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903782716] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>That's not what PTSD tends to do to people. You're just being needlessly, pointlessly cruel.</quote>I disagree, a heavy fear needs to be instilled into those criminals so that they will fear committing a crime ever again. Or else we'll have to think of ever harsher methods to instill that fear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 06/22/18 7:10:35 PM #88:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Asherlee10 posted... I'm asking you to expand on what you mean and why. I'm a big believer in harsh punishments, so harsh, that they will have PTSD and never commit crime again. It's more than just the money, it's about breaking their criminal spirit into tiny little pieces that they won't ever commit crime again. And if they keep going at it, I can think of countless methods of harsh punishments that don't involve death. KamenRiderBlade posted... Antifar posted... That's not what PTSD tends to do to people. You're just being needlessly, pointlessly cruel. I disagree, a heavy fear needs to be instilled into those criminals so that they will fear committing a crime ever again. Or else we'll have to think of ever harsher methods to instill that fear. ... --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:903783060] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> I'm asking you to expand on what you mean and why.</quote>I'm a big believer in harsh punishments, so harsh, that they will have PTSD and never commit crime again. It's more than just the money, it's about breaking their criminal spirit into tiny little pieces that they won't ever commit crime again. And if they keep going at it, I can think of countless methods of harsh punishments that don't involve death.</quote> <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote> That's not what PTSD tends to do to people. You're just being needlessly, pointlessly cruel.</quote>I disagree, a heavy fear needs to be instilled into those criminals so that they will fear committing a crime ever again. Or else we'll have to think of ever harsher methods to instill that fear.</quote> ... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 06/22/18 7:15:07 PM #89:	Balrog0 posted... it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail? personally if it was up to me I'm saying neither. neither helps me, and the adjudication process would certainly take more than $500 in public resources even he just plead guilty which we can't assume r a d i c a l c e n t r i s m so no punishment? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:903783316] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail? personally if it was up to me I'm saying neither. neither helps me, and the adjudication process would certainly take more than $500 in public resources even he just plead guilty which we can't assume r a d i c a l c e n t r i s m</quote> so no punishment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/22/18 7:17:52 PM #90:	emblem boy posted... ... Why the faces, you're a good person, right? You have nothing to fear. Criminals should have everything to fear. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903783462] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>... </quote>Why the faces, you're a good person, right? You have nothing to fear. Criminals should have everything to fear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/18 7:21:46 PM #91:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Balrog0 posted... it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail? personally if it was up to me I'm saying neither. neither helps me, and the adjudication process would certainly take more than $500 in public resources even he just plead guilty which we can't assume r a d i c a l c e n t r i s m so no punishment? If it was up to me, basically. If we levied fines based in ability to pay or something that'd be okay. --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:903783669] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>it's more like, if someone steals your $50 beater bike and get caught, should they only be fined or go to jail? personally if it was up to me I'm saying neither. neither helps me, and the adjudication process would certainly take more than $500 in public resources even he just plead guilty which we can't assume r a d i c a l c e n t r i s m</quote> so no punishment?</quote> If it was up to me, basically. If we levied fines based in ability to pay or something that'd be okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jborgan 06/22/18 7:33:38 PM #93:	Spooking posted... Austin appears to be a lost cause. I'm sorry, true Texans. Shut up. --- http://www.last.fm/user/jborgan <cite>jborgan posted [p:903784268] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>Austin appears to be a lost cause. I'm sorry, true Texans.</quote> Shut up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 06/22/18 7:44:05 PM #94:	jborgan posted... Spooking posted... Austin appears to be a lost cause. I'm sorry, true Texans. Shut up. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (4-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:903784787] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>Austin appears to be a lost cause. I'm sorry, true Texans.</quote> Shut up.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HydraSlayer82 06/22/18 7:46:24 PM #95:	tennisdude818 posted... Theft should not be grouped with drug use. Agreed. --- Sigless user <cite>HydraSlayer82 posted [p:903784907] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>Theft should not be grouped with drug use.</quote> Agreed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 06/22/18 8:41:00 PM #96:	KamenRiderBlade posted... LordRazziel posted... So, stealing 10 dollars worth of stuff from a store should be should be a class c misdemeanor, as should breaking into your home and stealing a 10 spot from your wallet? You loss $10 either way. The only difference is the additional Breaking & Entering / Illegal Trespassing charges on top from the Burglary. Breaking and entering, then stealing is burglary. --- https://imgur.com/8pzUM https://imgur.com/Oh1iujg The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:903787594] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>So, stealing 10 dollars worth of stuff from a store should be should be a class c misdemeanor, as should breaking into your home and stealing a 10 spot from your wallet?</quote>You loss $10 either way. The only difference is the additional Breaking & Entering / Illegal Trespassing charges on top from the Burglary.</quote> Breaking and entering, then stealing is burglary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 06/23/18 1:26:55 PM #99:	Asherlee10 posted... Antifar posted... You're just being needlessly, pointlessly cruel. Not only is KamenRideBlade needlessly cruel, but others are too. It's pretty sick. I disagree, I believe you are WAAYYYY too lenient on crime. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:903821511] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>You're just being needlessly, pointlessly cruel. </quote> Not only is KamenRideBlade needlessly cruel, but others are too. It's pretty sick.</quote>I disagree, I believe you are WAAYYYY too lenient on crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 06/23/18 10:20:54 PM #100:	Obviously you believe that. Your belief is unfounded. Keep your torture fantasies to yourself. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:903847302] in Austin, TX... [t:76739712]...</cite> <quote>Obviously you believe that. Your belief is unfounded. Keep your torture fantasies to yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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