Current Events > Do you think America should be the country of the white man?

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China has Chinese presidents and their population is predominantly Chinese.
The Middle East has Arabic leaders and the population is predominantly Arabic.

Should America be the country of the white man with only white presidents and the majority of the population being white?

For those who say it already is, do you believe calculated measures should be taken to ensure that the white population remains in the majority?
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North or South?

No.
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No. If you want a white ethnostate, move to Belarus. The US is one of the most ethnically diverse countries on the planet (especially for a major country). It is the opposite of an ethnostate. If you want an ethnostate, the US is one of the worst countries for you.
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No
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No Country For White Men
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Had a Facebook argument about this the other day with some dude that thinks "race mixing" is wrong and called me a "race traitor" lol I'm gonna say a hard no
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Hahahaha, no. Who the fuck thinks that other than alt-right neo-nazis?

Also the China and Middle Eastern arguments are crazy-town.

Not only are both of those places made up of a ton of different ethnic groups (IIRC, China actually has 42 different recognized ethnic groups), but the US has no indigenous white population. If we are going to argue that only people that started here should get exclusive right to the country, then the Americas belong to Aboriginal people.

<------------- 1800s is that a way
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Dash_Harber posted...

Hahahaha, no. Who the fuck thinks that other than alt-right neo-nazis?

Only them really
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America is a Country for American Citizens who come in through the "LEGAL IMMIGRATION" system.

Period.

As long as you are born into this Countries Citizenship legally or Immigrate and Naturalize LEGALLY.

Those are the people who are welcomed to this country.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

No. If you want a white ethnostate, move to Belarus. The US is one of the most ethnically diverse countries on the planet (especially for a major country). It is the opposite of an ethnostate. If you want an ethnostate, the US is one of the worst countries for you.

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Smashingpmkns posted...

Had a Facebook argument about this the other day with some dude that thinks "race mixing" is wrong and called me a "race traitor" lol I'm gonna say a hard no

Getting into this argument is nothing to be proud of
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Dash_Harber posted...

Not only are both of those places made up of a ton of different ethnic groups (IIRC, China actually has 42 different recognized ethnic groups), but the US has no indigenous white population. If we are going to argue that only people that started here should get exclusive right to the country, then the Americas belong to Aboriginal people.

China is trying to erase its minorities and turn them into monolithic Chinese
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Sativa_Rose posted...

China is trying to erase its minorities and turn them into monolithic Chinese

Of course they are, haven't you seen what they do to the Ugyhur & Tibetan communities?
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Not only are both of those places made up of a ton of different ethnic groups (IIRC, China actually has 42 different recognized ethnic groups), but the US has no indigenous white population. If we are going to argue that only people that started here should get exclusive right to the country, then the Americas belong to Aboriginal people.

China is trying to erase its minorities and turn them into monolithic Chinese

Oh, which ethnic group is that?

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Had a Facebook argument about this the other day with some dude that thinks "race mixing" is wrong and called me a "race traitor" lol I'm gonna say a hard no

Getting into this argument is nothing to be proud of

Not really proud, just something that happened.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Not only are both of those places made up of a ton of different ethnic groups (IIRC, China actually has 42 different recognized ethnic groups), but the US has no indigenous white population. If we are going to argue that only people that started here should get exclusive right to the country, then the Americas belong to Aboriginal people.

China is trying to erase its minorities and turn them into monolithic Chinese

Oh, which ethnic group is that?

Han Chinese, which is over 90% of the population

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China_and_Taiwan
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Not only are both of those places made up of a ton of different ethnic groups (IIRC, China actually has 42 different recognized ethnic groups), but the US has no indigenous white population. If we are going to argue that only people that started here should get exclusive right to the country, then the Americas belong to Aboriginal people.

China is trying to erase its minorities and turn them into monolithic Chinese

Oh, which ethnic group is that?

Han Chinese, which is over 90% of the population

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China_and_Taiwan

Yeah, but that's my point, the other groups make up China.

Now, I'm not arguing whether China is right or wrong, or their actions, but just the assertion that 'China is for the Chinese' currently.

Dash_Harber posted...

Now, I'm not arguing whether China is right or wrong, or their actions, but just the assertion that 'China is for the Chinese' currently.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.
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America isn't the country of any single race or color. It's been a melting pot. It's for everyone. (Who comes here legally, that is)
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Not only are both of those places made up of a ton of different ethnic groups (IIRC, China actually has 42 different recognized ethnic groups), but the US has no indigenous white population. If we are going to argue that only people that started here should get exclusive right to the country, then the Americas belong to Aboriginal people.

China is trying to erase its minorities and turn them into monolithic Chinese

Oh, which ethnic group is that?

Han Chinese, which is over 90% of the population

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China_and_Taiwan

So China is the land of the Chinese race?
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Now, I'm not arguing whether China is right or wrong, or their actions, but just the assertion that 'China is for the Chinese' currently.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.

That even though we think of China as being inhabited by the Chinese, the definition of Chinese is literally made up of some 40+ different ethnic groups, so it's still weird to say that China is for the Chinese like the original poster stated.

Dash_Harber posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Now, I'm not arguing whether China is right or wrong, or their actions, but just the assertion that 'China is for the Chinese' currently.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.

That even though we think of China as being inhabited by the Chinese, the definition of Chinese is literally made up of some 40+ different ethnic groups, so it's still weird to say that China is for the Chinese like the original poster stated.

Well he meant Han Chinese (close to 92% of the population)
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Now, I'm not arguing whether China is right or wrong, or their actions, but just the assertion that 'China is for the Chinese' currently.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.

That even though we think of China as being inhabited by the Chinese, the definition of Chinese is literally made up of some 40+ different ethnic groups, so it's still weird to say that China is for the Chinese like the original poster stated.

Well he meant Han Chinese (close to 92% of the population)

It just doesn't seem like a good example given the diversity in the country alone. Now if he had said Japan, where there are far fewer ethnic groups, it probably would have been more fitting.

I'd say the Natives are the only ones with any actual right to make that decision, but they're all huddled up in glorified prison lands.
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Should be the country of the Americans.

Whatever you think that means you're probably wrong.
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It never was, it never will be

Ving_Rhames posted...

I'd say the Natives are the only ones with any actual right to make that decision, but they're all huddled up in glorified prison lands.

which natives? there was never a singular tribe that owned the land
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Ving_Rhames posted...

I'd say the Natives are the only ones with any actual right to make that decision, but they're all huddled up in glorified prison lands.

which natives? there was never a singular tribe that owned the land

Yeah, just like how white people aren't a unified race.

Nazi punks fuck off
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amerikkka is a mixed country with a certain elite upper class that uses a certain race to do its bidding which involves oppressing the other races.
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The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 changed everything; it opened up Mexico. Here is table


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographics_of_the_United_States

Very clearly after 1965 on the chart other races increased and non-Hispanic whites decreased. The Hispanic population has grown from 3.2% in 1960 to 16.3% in 2010. Asians from 0.5% to 4.9%.

Birth rates also favor the same trend
https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rates-by-race-and-ethnicity/

Hispanics have the highest birth rate, followed by Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander, then black, then Native American, then White, then Asian.

Up until 1965 it was mainly whites and a smaller percentage of blacks. From 1965 onwards the Hispanics have grown and according to birth rates will continue to grow and eat away at the overall percentage of the population.
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Zero_Destroyer posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

No. If you want a white ethnostate, move to Belarus. The US is one of the most ethnically diverse countries on the planet (especially for a major country). It is the opposite of an ethnostate. If you want an ethnostate, the US is one of the worst countries for you.

I have never heard of Belarus being like that. Tell me more
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glitteringfairy posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

No. If you want a white ethnostate, move to Belarus. The US is one of the most ethnically diverse countries on the planet (especially for a major country). It is the opposite of an ethnostate. If you want an ethnostate, the US is one of the worst countries for you.

I have never heard of Belarus being like that. Tell me more

It's over 97% white, look up the demographics
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"This land is your land"
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Sativa_Rose posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

No. If you want a white ethnostate, move to Belarus. The US is one of the most ethnically diverse countries on the planet (especially for a major country). It is the opposite of an ethnostate. If you want an ethnostate, the US is one of the worst countries for you.

I have never heard of Belarus being like that. Tell me more

It's over 97% white, look up the demographics

But is it engineered to be that way with their laws or are they 97% white by happenstance
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glitteringfairy posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

No. If you want a white ethnostate, move to Belarus. The US is one of the most ethnically diverse countries on the planet (especially for a major country). It is the opposite of an ethnostate. If you want an ethnostate, the US is one of the worst countries for you.

I have never heard of Belarus being like that. Tell me more

It's over 97% white, look up the demographics

But is it engineered to be that way with their laws or are they 97% white by happenstance

I don't know what their immigration policy is like, but I don't think it's likely to radically change anytime soon, so it's probably your best bet.
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Galcian posted...

The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 changed everything; it opened up Mexico. Here is table


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographics_of_the_United_States

Very clearly after 1965 on the chart other races increased and non-Hispanic whites decreased. The Hispanic population has grown from 3.2% in 1960 to 16.3% in 2010. Asians from 0.5% to 4.9%.

Birth rates also favor the same trend
https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rates-by-race-and-ethnicity/

Hispanics have the highest birth rate, followed by Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander, then black, then Native American, then White, then Asian.

Up until 1965 it was mainly whites and a smaller percentage of blacks. From 1965 onwards the Hispanics have grown and according to birth rates will continue to grow and eat away at the overall percentage of the population.

and all that diversity has done nothing to help stabilize the country. diversity is far proving to not work and create more division than ever as politicians have appeal to every possible group of voters.

there is also the fact that people are homogeneous by nature, and no it's not just nazis that behave that way. we all do it. it can easily be backed up by some googling and research.

to the point of TC....whites should yes get to have their own country(s) just like other people. no one is calling for the diversification of China or Japan or Africa. it's strangely only white countries that need more diversity. it's not that other races or cultures are bad, it is more whether or not diversity has an economic policy for a country works, and given all the racial tension that is building up in this country, i would argue that diversity does exactly what it's root word "Div" says and that is it divides us making us the divides states of america and not the united states of america.

theres also the questionable idea of whether or not we can actually sustain immigration(both legal and illegal) at the rates that we are, which is roughly a million new people a year. that drastically changes our demographics and as such drastically changes how we vote which drastically changes the shape and direction of the country.

https://cis.org/Report/18-Million-Immigrants-Likely-Arrived-2016-Matching-Highest-Level-US-History

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/jun/20/marco-rubio/marco-rubio-says-us-admits-1-million-immigrants-ye/

no. i like that america is a melting pot. i'd like to see asian and hispanic presidents in the us before i die.
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LITERALLY 25% yes
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shockthemonkey posted...

Theres always that one asshole being like yeah guys cmon I just dont see whats so wrong about wanting to turn America into a white ethnostate.

so do you have a problem if whites decided they wanted to bum rush into africa and turn it into a melting pot? or what about China or Japan?

kayoticdreamz posted...

there is also the fact that people are homogeneous by nature, and no it's not just nazis that behave that way. we all do it. it can easily be backed up by some googling and research.

That's factually wrong. Like 90% of the groups we talk about today (French, British, German, etc) all exclusively exist because of people mixing. As I've said before, British is literally Welsh, Briton, Irish, Pictish, Roman, Angle, Jute, Saxon, Danish, French/Norman, just for starters. It's hilarious to pretend now that humans can't mix.

Like, Ghengis Khan succeeded because he mixed. Romans succeeded because they mixed. You know why like 75% or Europe has Scandinavian ancestry? Ding ding ding, they mixed. It's in our very nature.

Also, this crap about diversity destabilizing the country is hilarious. Things are more stable now than they were in the 1930's or 40's, or, hell, even during the Cold War.

kayoticdreamz posted...

to the point of TC....whites should yes get to have their own country(s) just like other people. no one is calling for the diversification of China or Japan or Africa. it's strangely only white countries that need more diversity. it's not that other races or cultures are bad, it is more whether or not diversity has an economic policy for a country works, and given all the racial tension that is building up in this country, i would argue that diversity does exactly what it's root word "Div" says and that is it divides us making us the divides states of america and not the united states of america.

Also, this falls apart the second you know anything about American history. 'White' people (as you conveniently like to pretend are a homogenous group to begin with) aren't native to the Americas.

Dash_Harber posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

to the point of TC....whites should yes get to have their own country(s) just like other people. no one is calling for the diversification of China or Japan or Africa. it's strangely only white countries that need more diversity. it's not that other races or cultures are bad, it is more whether or not diversity has an economic policy for a country works, and given all the racial tension that is building up in this country, i would argue that diversity does exactly what it's root word "Div" says and that is it divides us making us the divides states of america and not the united states of america.

Also, this falls apart the second you know anything about American history. 'White' people (as you conveniently like to pretend are a homogenous group to begin with) aren't native to the Americas.

what does that have to do with anything? if anything it proves my points, the natives and europeans didn't exactly get along as evidenced by all that killing of each other they did.

Dash_Harber posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

there is also the fact that people are homogeneous by nature, and no it's not just nazis that behave that way. we all do it. it can easily be backed up by some googling and research.

That's factually wrong. Like 90% of the groups we talk about today (French, British, German, etc) all exclusively exist because of people mixing. As I've said before, British is literally Welsh, Briton, Irish, Pictish, Roman, Angle, Jute, Saxon, Danish, French/Norman, just for starters. It's hilarious to pretend now that humans can't mix.

Like, Ghengis Khan succeeded because he mixed. Romans succeeded because they mixed. You know why like 75% or Europe has Scandinavian ancestry? Ding ding ding, they mixed. It's in our very nature.

Also, this crap about diversity destabilizing the country is hilarious. Things are more stable now than they were in the 1930's or 40's, or, hell, even during the Cold War.

there are many breeds of white people FYI. French, Spanish, English, etc are all still white. A "White" Frenchmen and a "White" British woman will still make a white baby. sure purely ethnically at a real DNA Level, they are different, but that was never my point.

How a black human and a white human? those cultures are often so far different from each other, that not only do the children look like neither mom nor dad, but they are because of the vast culture and ethnic differences, have a very hard time being accepted by anyone.

you know damn well I wasn't talking about white country A mixed with white country B because those still produce a white child. it's more about staying within the ballpark, not getting an exact match. and for that, Chinese people, black people, mexican people, and white people and whoever else are all quite distinct from one another.

kayoticdreamz posted...

mexican people

Who exactly do you think Mexicans are?
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hockeybub89 posted...

Nazi punks fuck off

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obviously not

shockingly all of the trump dick slurpers are voting yes and arguing for a white ethnostate

i wonder why? isn't trump not racist? aren't they not the party of nazis?
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kayoticdreamz posted...

what does that have to do with anything? if anything it proves my points, the natives and europeans didn't exactly get along as evidenced by all that killing of each other they did.

Because the idea that the US is somehow magically a 'white person zone' is ridiculous given that not a single white person was here for thousands and thousands of years.

kayoticdreamz posted...

there are many breeds of white people FYI. French, Spanish, English, etc are all still white. A "White" Frenchmen and a "White" British woman will still make a white baby. sure purely ethnically at a real DNA Level, they are different, but that was never my point.

So basically, you are saying that people naturally gravitate towards only people who are the exact same skin tone?

You have a comically bad misunderstanding of race. In fact, there was a long period of time where the French and Britain were mortal enemies who blatantly hated each other. Both those races had radically different cultures and ideas. Except, according to you, white people all magically get along because their babies will be the same shade. No, that's ridiculous.

kayoticdreamz posted...

How a black human and a white human? those cultures are often so far different from each other, that not only do the children look like neither mom nor dad, but they are because of the vast culture and ethnic differences, have a very hard time being accepted by anyone.

Again, you would really benefit from reading up on history. Historically, these 'white' groups that you are talking about have been radically different from one another. Romans and the Germanic people were both white, yet were so radically opposed that the majority of their interactions were violent clashes. The aforementioned French and English differences I've already gone over. How about Charlemagne conquering the Saxons? How about the 100 years war? How about the Spanish Civil War? Catalan Independence? Jesus, there are literally hundreds of examples of fights between European nations and groups.

kayoticdreamz posted...

you know damn well I wasn't talking about white country A mixed with white country B because those still produce a white child. it's more about staying within the ballpark, not getting an exact match. and for that, Chinese people, black people, mexican people, and white people and whoever else are all quite distinct from one another.

So far you have stated it's;
- Skin tone differences.
- Racial differences but not scientifically different races.
- Cultural differences.

This is ridiculous and arbitrary. Not all white groups get along or have a lot of in common, and skin tone isn't the only factor.