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LockDeltz
06/27/18 12:58:38 AM
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http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/10/time-united-states-divorce-things-get-dangerous/

Divorce is hard, but its easier than cutting the brake lines on your wifes car. It is long past time for an amicable divorce of the United States of America. There is simply no common ground with the Left anymore. We are now the couple screaming at each other all night, every night as the kids hide in their room. We cannot come together, but we do not have to live like this. The history of the world is nations breaking up and redrawing their borders. If we want to avoid this political divide turning into a deadly one, we should do likewise. Stop clinging to the past and acknowledge where we are as a country, not where you want us to be, not where things were when your grandpa was storming the beaches of Normandy. Where we truly are.

Anyone who thinks this is a radical idea has an extremely narrow view of history. If you dont believe me, go try to book a plane ticket to Czechoslovakia, or look at a map of Europe from the year 1600, then look at one today. See any differences? Borders move. Countries split and change hands. They do this for a myriad of reasons. Ours would be a major cultural shift toward the left and half the country refusing to go along with tyranny.


I definitely want to see the United States split up. I would love for states like California, Nevada, and Texas to be independent nations.
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awesome999
06/27/18 12:59:29 AM
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Dampproof
06/27/18 1:17:37 AM
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The GOP has many problems, but the Democratic Party has turned into something completely un-American. The United States was founded on two things: Judeo-Christian values and a limited federal government. The entire platform of modern Democrats stands completely opposite both of those.


X freaking D.
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Hicks233
06/27/18 1:23:22 AM
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What the fuck are "Judeo-Christian" values?

Oh... it's Neo-con political dribble. Carry on.
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metralo
06/27/18 1:24:12 AM
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of course this is some mentally ill conservative/racist rambling
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DarkTransient
06/27/18 1:47:22 AM
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I mean, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea... the majority of states are solidly one way or the other, why not let them split into their own countries?

Then the liberals can have their 12-hour workdays for a meager living and laws against offending the government; and the conservatives can have their guns and confederate flags. Everyone wins.
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PanzerElite
06/27/18 1:49:12 AM
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Dampproof posted...
The GOP has many problems, but the Democratic Party has turned into something completely un-American. The United States was founded on two things: Judeo-Christian values and a limited federal government. The entire platform of modern Democrats stands completely opposite both of those.


X freaking D.

He's right about a limited federal government, and the left is definitely opposed to that.

Makes me wonder why we even have a left in America if they want to make it something it's not.
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Questionmarktarius
06/27/18 1:50:28 AM
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Balkanization is a good thing.
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Doe
06/27/18 1:50:34 AM
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You would need enough states like 3/4 to all say "yeah this would beneficial to me" which can never happen. The red tape after states become individual nations would obliterate the influence the Americas have in world politics, handing the keys over to the EU, Russia, and China.
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Genocet_10-325
06/27/18 2:07:05 AM
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The red states would all go bankrupt without the rich blue states to support them
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Questionmarktarius
06/27/18 2:18:08 AM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
The red states would all go bankrupt without the rich blue states to support them

This assumes that spending in each state will remain as-is.
Without the federal teat to suck on, things will work out and stabilize pretty quickly, give or take the south.
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Tyranthraxus
06/27/18 2:21:45 AM
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The GOP has many problems, but the Democratic Party has turned into something completely un-American.

Says guy trying to break apart the United States ala 1860.
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TheCrimsonAngel
06/27/18 2:22:24 AM
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Anyone who says "Un-American" completely seriously shouldn't be listened to.
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Tyranthraxus
06/27/18 2:22:31 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
The red states would all go bankrupt without the rich blue states to support them

This assumes that spending in each state will remain as-is.
Without the federal teat to suck on, things will work out and stabilize pretty quickly, give or take the south.

That's not how things work.
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Phantom_Nook
06/27/18 2:27:21 AM
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The Federalist probably wants to divorce the US so the South can rise again.
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EternalDivide
06/27/18 2:40:28 AM
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Realistically speaking here.
Given the current state of the far left and the continued spiraling out of control mentality. It's only a matter of time before someone does something very stupid. And it won't be a conservative. Some liberal is going to do something violent and then things will really go to hell.

Look at that Maxine Waters. She stopped an inch short of calling for outright violence but did call for public shaming and persecution of those connected to Trump. There's no stopping this. It'll only get worse until they do start to justify actual violence or murder because they believe they're right about everything and anyone that disagrees is a nazi monster that's going to kill them first unless action is taken.

They're shooting themselves in the foot and only digging their party a deeper hole.
And it's easy to see how things can and should be handled if it gets worse. Freedom of speech only goes so far. "Imminent lawless action" can be acted upon. The First Amendment no longer applies when someone is advocating the use of violence or force. Look that up if you don't believe it. If things do go in the direction they seem to be going. It's only a matter of time before the feds do act and remove from office or prosecute or arrest some of these ultra left types. Whatever the process would be.
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Minute
06/27/18 2:49:49 AM
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EternalDivide posted...
Some liberal is going to do something violent and then things will really go to hell


The left will act violent?

Excuse me?

Ex-fucking-cuse me?

What the fuck was the Quebec attack?
What the fuck was Toronto?
What the fuck was Charlottesville?
What the fuck was Parkland?

Dozens of people have been killed by your fascist fucking party and you call the left violent? Can you cite a SINGLE. FUCKING. DEATH. From any form of leftist terrorism in the West in the past, I don't fucking know, twenty goddamn years? No, you fucking can't, because you're brainwashed by Faux News and the fucking fictitious blogs you subscribe to that make shit up so Pappy Putin can keep funding them.
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Questionmarktarius
06/27/18 2:54:35 AM
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Minute posted...
What the fuck was the Quebec attack?
What the fuck was Toronto?
What the fuck was Charlottesville?
What the fuck was Parkland?

Misguided idealism, which the left is churning out in rather alarming amounts recently.

There's significant potential for the so-called "good people on both sides" to quickly become utter assholes. It's not going to be riots, but complete brawls.
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lesidesi
06/27/18 2:58:40 AM
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The point minute is making (quite poorly) is that misguided idealism from the radical right results in death and violence much more frequently than misguided idealism from the radical left
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Questionmarktarius
06/27/18 2:59:34 AM
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lesidesi posted...
The point minute is making (quite poorly) is that misguided idealism from the radical right results in death and violence much more frequently than misguided idealism from the radical left

For now.
The "angry white guy" phenomenon is rapidly becoming an "angry blue hair" thing as well.
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Le__seul_dieu__
06/27/18 2:59:45 AM
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Minute posted...
EternalDivide posted...
Some liberal is going to do something violent and then things will really go to hell


The left will act violent?

Excuse me?

Ex-fucking-cuse me?

What the fuck was the Quebec attack?
What the fuck was Toronto?
What the fuck was Charlottesville?
What the fuck was Parkland?

Dozens of people have been killed by your fascist fucking party and you call the left violent? Can you cite a SINGLE. FUCKING. DEATH. From any form of leftist terrorism in the West in the past, I don't fucking know, twenty goddamn years? No, you fucking can't, because you're brainwashed by Faux News and the fucking fictitious blogs you subscribe to that make shit up so Pappy Putin can keep funding them.

triggered as FUCK. calm down man
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ultimate reaver
06/27/18 3:05:28 AM
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never forget the angry blue hair slaughter that took place in... um... uh... er...
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Questionmarktarius
06/27/18 3:08:04 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...
never forget the angry blue hair slaughter that took place in... um... uh... er...

Well, okay. The fact that angry bluehairs are allergic to firearms does mitigate things a bit, yes.
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Minute
06/27/18 3:30:49 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The "angry white guy" phenomenon is rapidly becoming an "angry blue hair" thing as well.

Source: "I want it to be true, thus in my fantasy version of reality, it is!"
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Sphyx
06/27/18 3:32:50 AM
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EternalDivide posted...
It's only a matter of time before someone does something very stupid. And it won't be a conservative.

lmao
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Funcoland
06/27/18 3:48:21 AM
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I love it when Republicans is so far deluded they think that a pro-capitalist party that supports the same fucking rotten system or war profiteering and imperialism is "far left". Fucking hell.
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Minute
06/27/18 3:52:14 AM
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Funcoland posted...
I love it when Republicans is so far deluded they think that a pro-capitalist party that supports the same fucking rotten system or war profiteering and imperialism is "far left". Fucking hell.

If the tobacco-chewers ever looked outside their borders with anything other than vile contempt, they'd realize that the Democrats would be solidly right-wing in any other Western nation.
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Vita_Aeterna
06/27/18 4:13:25 AM
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Even though that sounds good on paper, the immense effects on global society and economy would huge. American soft-power would dip so hard.
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Duck-Butter
06/27/18 4:39:39 AM
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man,some of you people are dumb as hell.
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SavenForever
06/27/18 5:43:55 AM
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5:43am in the morning and I guarantee you that this will be the stupidest thing I will read all day.
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Key
06/27/18 5:54:02 AM
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America would be fucked if it ever splits apart
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
06/27/18 5:55:21 AM
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conservative America would completely go under
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LIsJustice
06/27/18 6:24:08 AM
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>The Federalist
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Tappor
06/27/18 6:28:09 AM
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Okay. We'll put all the crazy stupid people in one state that wants to split and then kick that state out. How does that sound? The rest of us non-crazies will stay here.

Shut up
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Uncle Choad
06/27/18 6:57:44 AM
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Tappor posted...
Okay. We'll put all the crazy stupid people in one state that wants to split and then kick that state out. How does that sound? The rest of us non-crazies will stay here.

Shut up


And then annex that state shortly afterwards.
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bover_87
06/27/18 7:02:24 AM
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HypnoCoosh
06/27/18 7:10:10 AM
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We really just need to find a cure for liberalism, its a disease that destroys people ability to think rationally and lose touch with reality.
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kayoticdreamz
06/27/18 7:14:11 AM
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Minute posted...
EternalDivide posted...
Some liberal is going to do something violent and then things will really go to hell


The left will act violent?

Excuse me?

Ex-fucking-cuse me?

What the fuck was the Quebec attack?
What the fuck was Toronto?
What the fuck was Charlottesville?
What the fuck was Parkland?

Dozens of people have been killed by your fascist fucking party and you call the left violent? Can you cite a SINGLE. FUCKING. DEATH. From any form of leftist terrorism in the West in the past, I don't fucking know, twenty goddamn years? No, you fucking can't, because you're brainwashed by Faux News and the fucking fictitious blogs you subscribe to that make shit up so Pappy Putin can keep funding them.


even if what you say is true, and it's not, but EVEN IF.....we still cannot deny that the left is stirring up violence at an alarming rate.

EternalDivide posted...
Realistically speaking here.
Given the current state of the far left and the continued spiraling out of control mentality. It's only a matter of time before someone does something very stupid. And it won't be a conservative. Some liberal is going to do something violent and then things will really go to hell.

Look at that Maxine Waters. She stopped an inch short of calling for outright violence but did call for public shaming and persecution of those connected to Trump. There's no stopping this. It'll only get worse until they do start to justify actual violence or murder because they believe they're right about everything and anyone that disagrees is a nazi monster that's going to kill them first unless action is taken.

They're shooting themselves in the foot and only digging their party a deeper hole.
And it's easy to see how things can and should be handled if it gets worse. Freedom of speech only goes so far. "Imminent lawless action" can be acted upon. The First Amendment no longer applies when someone is advocating the use of violence or force. Look that up if you don't believe it. If things do go in the direction they seem to be going. It's only a matter of time before the feds do act and remove from office or prosecute or arrest some of these ultra left types. Whatever the process would be.


truth

and thats really the problem, there is no more reasoning with the left. the left has defaulted to all disagreements being "YOU ARE A NAZI!!!" and effectively shut down any meaningful dialogue.

but the worst part is how the left cannot comprehend this fact. they are completely unified within themselves against the right and will under no circumstances disown their own. Rush Limbaugh put it nicely one time where he essentially said "if I run for president I'd run as a democrat because then they couldn't attack me". and thats really the point. The left attacks everyone that isn't their own and everyone that isn't their own is at a bare minimum some version of hitler.

and it's not hard to see this. watch some news broadcasts of conservatives and liberals talking to each other, it almost always breaks down into this.

watch some of our internet arguments between conservatives and liberals....it breaks down into this rapidly.
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kayoticdreamz
06/27/18 7:18:02 AM
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putting this another way, if liberals buy into the fact that conservatives are hitler, the question then becomes "if you see hitler rising to power, what would you do about it?". the moral answer is "Anything i can to stop it".

and so yes, the left is going to escalate this into violence because under such a philosophy you are morally bound by your conscious to do something about it because there really can be nothing more noble than stopping hitler from rising to power. and since liberals think conservatism is hitler incarnate, this puts them all in a moral quandary.
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Thompson
06/27/18 7:26:01 AM
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Is it true that the divide between the left and right has become too great to mend?
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HypnoCoosh
06/27/18 7:29:17 AM
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Thompson posted...
Is it true that the divide between the left and right has become too great to mend?


The left is literally rallying for violence and to attack people they dont agree witth.

Fuck look at Antifa and tell me there isnt a problem.

Or look at the fucked up news that cant even do real journalism its all propaganda.

Look at YouTube and twitter and other media that sensors speech and blocks people and changes traffic.

Its all fucked man .
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catboy0_0
06/27/18 7:31:21 AM
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LockDeltz posted...
I definitely want to the United States to split up. I would love for states like California, Nevada, and Texas to be independent nations.

AGREED
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catboy0_0
06/27/18 7:33:31 AM
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I fucking LOVE how the "right" accuse the left of being violent when they glorify violence, guns, military totalerism and raping those that aren't straight white males
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
06/27/18 8:28:40 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
I fucking LOVE how the "right" accuse the left of being violent when they glorify violence, guns, military totalerism and raping those that aren't straight white males

Don't forget:
- advocating for lynching journalists
- unilaterally defending cops who kill blacks
- referring to the free media as the "lugenpresse"
- 8 years of "He's not MY president/they should go back to Africa/Michelle has man arms".

Among many, MANY others.
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SageHarpuia
06/27/18 8:30:29 AM
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I'm confused as to what this writer's goal is
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Abyssea
06/27/18 8:32:59 AM
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The right is basically everything they claim the left to be. Classic projection.
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HypnoCoosh
06/27/18 8:33:47 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpKEyOIAfw4" data-time="

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Hexenherz
06/27/18 8:37:35 AM
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Dampproof posted...
The GOP has many problems, but the Democratic Party has turned into something completely un-American. The United States was founded on two things: Judeo-Christian values and a limited federal government. The entire platform of modern Democrats stands completely opposite both of those.


X freaking D.


I couldn't believe this was in the article, but it literally is, holy shit.
Also they misused the word "myriad". Shitty author is shit.
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Darkman124
06/27/18 8:40:06 AM
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womp womp

tldr of this topic: conservative babies gonna cry
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Hexenherz
06/27/18 8:42:29 AM
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I made the mistake of typing a response in the comments and posting it before reading the top comment. Oh well.
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