Current Events > TORONTO (Canadian #1 city) on track to have HIGHER MURDER RATE than NYC(US #1)

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With just days to go before the halfway point of 2018, Toronto Police have confirmed at least 48 homicides within the city since January 1. That's more than double the 23 we'd seen last year at this point.

Five people were killed last weekend alone four of them by guns prompting both Police Chief Mark Saunders and Mayor John Tory to express public concern over a recent spike in shooting deaths.

"The incidents of gun violence we have seen in our city in the past few days are shocking and can in no way be accepted or brushed aside," said Mayor Tory late last month following a rash of high-profile killings.

"As mayor, I am troubled by every act of violence in our city regardless of where it happens."

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University of Toronto Associate Professor of Criminology Scot Wortley, an expert in crime statistics, says that, based on an estimated population of 2.93 million, Toronto has a current crime rate of 1.67 per 100,000 people.

New York City, which has an estimated population of 8.62 million, had seen 130 homicides at the same point, according to the NYPD's CompStat crime data portal.

Wortley says this would put New York's homicide rate at 1.51 per 100,000 people

Toronto is BURNING

What will Canada do about this?

https://www.blogto.com/city/2018/06/toronto-homicide-rate-now-higher-new-york/

do canadians murder people by saying please and thank you?
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What did Toronto try to ban recently?

Questionmarktarius posted...

What did Toronto try to ban recently?

ALL GUNS

Not only are shootings becoming more frequent but instead of being targeted, people are being shot at random. A woman was shot on the weekend just sitting in the back of a friend's car just having a conversation, minding her own business. Really not sure if I want to live up here anymore.
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Toronto Police recently made the biggest gun bust in the city's history:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkbJNu-B-ai/

All of them from Florida
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What are the gun laws in Toronto? I honestly don't know.
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I love toronto I go there on the weekends but yeah some scary places if you going get the strap for protection
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Guess the ethnicities of the killers.

FlyingForever posted...

I love toronto I go there on the weekends but yeah some scary places if you going get the strap for protection

There are some hood ass Canadians shooting their streets up.

Some real trashy people up there. I live in NYC, and I feel much better down here.

If only Ontario had extremely restrictive an unreasonable gun laws this wouldn't have happened!
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Parappa09 posted...

do canadians murder people by saying please and thank you?

lmfao
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They're number 1 alright.
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Between Scareborough and shit holes like Regent Park, this doesn't surprise me one bit.
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Remember NYC has places like South Bronx, East Harlem, etc and they aren't as bad overall as these Canadian thugs

I live in the GTA area and had 2 shootings happen by house in the last month.

The dude broke into my house last week and the cops arrested him hidding in my closet. Last year their was a homicide down the street from my house to. The rise in violence is happening everywhere in my area.
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KhanJohnny posted...

Remember NYC has places like South Bronx, East Harlem, etc and they aren't as bad overall as these Canadian thugs

The stereotype of Canadians being overly nice outside of hockey boxes out the rest of the world from the fact that some real shitty stuff happens in Canada.

Regina has 4 homicides per 100k people right now, Vancouver is full of gangs, Montreal has the mob, the prairies have all the native homicides, shit's messed up right now.

There's a reason the US and Canada are tied in most world and UN rankings right now, where as a few years ago Canada would always be way ahead.
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electricbugs2 posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

Remember NYC has places like South Bronx, East Harlem, etc and they aren't as bad overall as these Canadian thugs

The stereotype of Canadians being overly nice outside of hockey boxes out the rest of the world from the fact that some real shitty stuff happens in Canada.

Regina has 4 homicides per 100k people right now, Vancouver is full of gangs, Montreal has the mob, the prairies have all the native homicides, shit's messed up right now.

There's a reason the US and Canada are tied in most world and UN rankings right now, where as a few years ago Canada would always be way ahead.

No really, what was the recent crackdown?

Questionmarktarius posted...

electricbugs2 posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

Remember NYC has places like South Bronx, East Harlem, etc and they aren't as bad overall as these Canadian thugs

The stereotype of Canadians being overly nice outside of hockey boxes out the rest of the world from the fact that some real shitty stuff happens in Canada.

Regina has 4 homicides per 100k people right now, Vancouver is full of gangs, Montreal has the mob, the prairies have all the native homicides, shit's messed up right now.

There's a reason the US and Canada are tied in most world and UN rankings right now, where as a few years ago Canada would always be way ahead.

No really, what was the recent crackdown?

lol I mean Doug Ford getting elected pissed off a lot of people, but that doesn't explain the rest of the country getting worse.
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electricbugs2 posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

Remember NYC has places like South Bronx, East Harlem, etc and they aren't as bad overall as these Canadian thugs

The stereotype of Canadians being overly nice outside of hockey boxes out the rest of the world from the fact that some real shitty stuff happens in Canada.

Regina has 4 homicides per 100k people right now, Vancouver is full of gangs, Montreal has the mob, the prairies have all the native homicides, shit's messed up right now.

There's a reason the US and Canada are tied in most world and UN rankings right now, where as a few years ago Canada would always be way ahead.

Yeah I'll just stay in NYC. No point risking a trip to one of you cities.

Too many thugs for me.

Are we suddenly pretending that Toronto is some unsafe city?
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Bio1590 posted...

Are we suddenly pretending that Toronto is some unsafe city?

Canadians luv to on about how safe their cities are.

Meanwhile bodies are stacking up higher there than in our most prominent city.

Bio1590 posted...

Are we suddenly pretending that Toronto is some unsafe city?

It's certainly starting to feel that way when you can get gunned down just standing on a street corner minding your own business for no reason what so ever.
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Infinite 2003 posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Are we suddenly pretending that Toronto is some unsafe city?

It's certainly starting to feel that way when you can get gunned down just standing on a street corner minding your own business for no reason what so ever.

That's outrageous. You people need to purge those fucking corners of these thugs.

#1 at what?
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Chicken posted...

#1 at what?

Size

Okay one thing to note here is that that 48 homicides figure includes the 10 people run over by Alek Minassian back in April, TC intentionally took that part of the article out. It might also include the 8 counts of murder that Bruce McArthur has been charged with, as the article makes mention of it but it's not clear whether they're included (I would assume yes). So that's 18 counts from 2 incidents alone, which heavily skews the numbers.

The article also does point out that the homicide rate is still lower than other notable cities like Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, LA, Winnipeg, and Regina.

Even the police chief is telling everyone to slow their roll.
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Bio1590 posted...

The article also does point out that the homicide rate is still lower than other notable cities like Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, LA, Winnipeg, and Regina.

WTF goes on in Regina?

Bio1590 posted...

Okay one thing to note here is that that 48 homicides figure includes the 10 people run over by Alek Minassian back in April, TC intentionally took that part of the article out. It might also include the 8 counts of murder that Bruce McArthur has been charged with, as the article makes mention of it but it's not clear whether they're included (I would assume yes). So that's 18 counts from 2 incidents alone, which heavily skews the numbers.

The article also does point out that the homicide rate is still lower than other notable cities like Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, LA, Winnipeg, and Regina.

Even the police chief is telling everyone to slow their roll.

Bodies are bodies. You're saying we shpuld discount people's deaths because a small number of people killed many??

That's ridiculous. Get your city in shape and then we can talk. I'll be in NYC, until you do.

Questionmarktarius posted...

WTF goes on in Regina?

4 murders per 100 k people.

In a town of 215,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regina,_Saskatchewan#Crime

Hell just go to Google Canada and search Regina. Every headline result is something related to a murder, or police involvement. It's a shitty town, Saskatoon craps all over it.
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Bio1590 posted...

Okay one thing to note here is that that 48 homicides figure includes the 10 people run over by Alek Minassian back in April, TC intentionally took that part of the article out. It might also include the 8 counts of murder that Bruce McArthur has been charged with, as the article makes mention of it but it's not clear whether they're included (I would assume yes). So that's 18 counts from 2 incidents alone, which heavily skews the numbers.

The article also does point out that the homicide rate is still lower than other notable cities like Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, LA, Winnipeg, and Regina.

Even the police chief is telling everyone to slow their roll.

It doesn't. And the murders carried out by Minassian are still murders. I don't know why people like to act like those don't count.
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So why all the murder? What's the reason?
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I live in Toronto and this does not surprise me at all

The city has been going to the dogs for years. The guys in charge don't give a fuck and don't have resources to do anything about it even if they did
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Toronto sucks and is basically shunned by the rest of the Canadian community.

Not to say this is something we should tolerate, but its closer to the US culturally than much of Canada.
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Also, another thing: One single attack killed 10 people, you know, the radical Trumpanzee who ran people down in a car. So it's sort of an outlier year.
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Keep in mind these are just the murders you're hearing about

There's tons of other degenerate shit going on that's not being reported or even acknowledged
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Another thing you should realize is that people don't really live in Toronto

A good portion of the "population" are foreign investors, speculators, people on temporary work visas, international students, people squatting for a while and looking to move out any day etc.

So they use it as a dumping ground, throw their trash there then leave. It's turning into a real shit hole.
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Since when is Toronto Canada's #1 city? Its not even the #1 city in Ontario.
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KhanJohnny posted...

Bodies are bodies. You're saying we shpuld discount people's deaths because a small number of people killed many??

Uh, no. He's saying we should contextualize those numbers.
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Infinite 2003 posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Okay one thing to note here is that that 48 homicides figure includes the 10 people run over by Alek Minassian back in April, TC intentionally took that part of the article out. It might also include the 8 counts of murder that Bruce McArthur has been charged with, as the article makes mention of it but it's not clear whether they're included (I would assume yes). So that's 18 counts from 2 incidents alone, which heavily skews the numbers.

The article also does point out that the homicide rate is still lower than other notable cities like Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, LA, Winnipeg, and Regina.

Even the police chief is telling everyone to slow their roll.

It doesn't. And the murders carried out by Minassian are still murders. I don't know why people like to act like those don't count.

I'm not saying it doesn't count, just that it's an extreme outlier that's obviously contributing to a high variation in the numbers.
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Dampproof posted...

Since when is Toronto Canada's #1 city? Its not even the #1 city in Ontario.

#1 city to embezzle foreign money into real estate, maybe
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Zero_Destroyer posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

Bodies are bodies. You're saying we shpuld discount people's deaths because a small number of people killed many??

Uh, no. He's saying we should contextualize those numbers.

Sounds like an excuse for Torontos horrible Toronto's murder rate

REMercsChamp posted...

Dampproof posted...

Since when is Toronto Canada's #1 city? Its not even the #1 city in Ontario.

#1 city to embezzle foreign money into real estate, maybe

Pretty sure that's Vancouver and the surrounding cities
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Just to circle back on this to 100% confirm it, the 48 figure does include the 10 killed in the terrorist attack but not the 8 people killed by Bruce McArthur (I'm assuming those get "attributed" to the year the people disappeared).

http://homicidecanada.com/toronto-homicide-victim-list-2018/

18-27 are the attack victims.
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