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NeoBasilisk
06/28/18 9:43:36 PM
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DavidWong posted...
How are they the same? Do people who say they rhyme say sock as "sork"? or hawk as hock?

some of them do this subtle combination of both sounds and then other people just turn the ahhhhhh sound up to 11

lots of them literally cannot hear the difference because they never heard the basic phonemes distinguished as children

it's the same reason why adults learning a new language usually have an accent no matter how they try to hide it

it's the same here

they literally cannot even conceive of how "cot" and "caught" could be pronounced differently and if you made a recording of it and they listened to it they probably still wouldn't be able to hear the difference

fortunately there are still many people in America that do not use this barbaric dialect
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Kineth
06/28/18 9:48:10 PM
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Sometimes, but not always. It definitely rhymes with the verb for expelling loogies.
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thronedfire2
06/28/18 10:33:10 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
They're different:

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1KPyCUhHPx0


that was a joke right
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0AbsoluteZero0
06/28/18 10:47:21 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
They're different:

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1KPyCUhHPx0

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Balrog0
06/28/18 10:51:20 PM
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Exactly the same. Hawk === hock
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Choco
06/29/18 6:37:33 AM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
@Choco

whyyyyyyyyyy
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tri sapphire
06/29/18 6:45:23 AM
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Say "father".

Now say "on".

Does the "a" in father sound like the "o" in on?
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Choco
06/29/18 7:02:08 AM
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tri sapphire posted...
Say "father".

Now say "on".

Does the "a" in father sound like the "o" in on?

...the a in father is another completely different sound you fucking psycho
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Dragonblade01
06/29/18 7:56:42 AM
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Choco posted...
tri sapphire posted...
Say "father".

Now say "on".

Does the "a" in father sound like the "o" in on?

...the a in father is another completely different sound you fucking psycho

Interestingly, if I look on Webster:

The "a" in father and the "o" in sock are pronounced the same.

For "on," there are actually two accepted pronunciations in standard English. If you use one of those pronunciations, than the "o" in on is the same as the aforementioned vowel sounds in father and sock.

Meanwhile, if you use the other accepted pronunciation in standard English, the "o" in on is the same as the "a" in hawk. It should be noted that this pronunciation is listed first.
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AlisLandale
06/29/18 8:10:48 AM
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Funkydog posted...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/hawk

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/sock

Guess it does sound kind of similar in "American" over English.


Um...that sounds like "yanny"
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Choco
06/29/18 10:27:47 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Choco posted...
tri sapphire posted...
Say "father".

Now say "on".

Does the "a" in father sound like the "o" in on?

...the a in father is another completely different sound you fucking psycho

Interestingly, if I look on Webster:

The "a" in father and the "o" in sock are pronounced the same.

For "on," there are actually two accepted pronunciations in standard English. If you use one of those pronunciations, than the "o" in on is the same as the aforementioned vowel sounds in father and sock.

Meanwhile, if you use the other accepted pronunciation in standard English, the "o" in on is the same as the "a" in hawk. It should be noted that this pronunciation is listed first.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sock
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hawk
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/father

k is not the same as k, and is another different sound
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Dragonblade01
06/29/18 10:37:53 AM
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Those pages also list the systems that notate those sounds as being the same.
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Choco
06/29/18 12:09:32 PM
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yeah they list incorrect accents
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spincr
06/29/18 12:10:52 PM
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awk or ock

no that don't rhyme for shit
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Dragonblade01
06/29/18 12:12:15 PM
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Choco posted...
yeah they list incorrect accents

That's not how language works.
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LightHawKnight
06/29/18 12:28:44 PM
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Does Rock rhyme with Hawk?
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Choco
06/29/18 3:42:16 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Choco posted...
yeah they list incorrect accents

That's not how language works.

there's no point to this whole thing if you think there is no one correct pronunciation
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thronedfire2
06/29/18 5:11:16 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Does Rock rhyme with Hawk?


yes
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joestarrr
06/29/18 5:11:42 PM
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yes tbh
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