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WalkingLobsters 07/01/18 3:14:13 PM #1: |
I think so because katanas are engineered and design with more creativity and effort. The katana will slice through the european armor like carving a cake.
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Reis 07/01/18 3:15:40 PM #2: |
If the katana is folded 1000 times then it can cut through the sound barrier
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Gheb 07/01/18 3:16:27 PM #3: |
Could a samurai win? Probably. But given standard armor and weapons, it isn't in their favor. Plate armor makes cutting weapons pretty ineffective.
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averagejoel 07/01/18 3:16:37 PM #4: |
knight is just a ceremonial title now. most don't wear armour. I have serious doubts that Sir Mick Jagger could beat a samurai
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Yomi 07/01/18 3:16:41 PM #5: |
Doesn't it depend entirely on the skill of both people? It's not like the katana and the iron sword are just gonna battle it out lol.
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do_ob_tpkillr 07/01/18 3:16:45 PM #6: |
This guy watches too much One Piece/Bleach/Jubei-chan/whatever.
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UnholyMudcrab 07/01/18 3:16:47 PM #7: |
Glorious thousand-folded Nippon steel will slice the eyeballs of any European foolish enough to look at it
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Smashingpmkns 07/01/18 3:17:05 PM #8: |
The knight would be at an advantage for sure.
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DrizztLink 07/01/18 3:17:16 PM #9: |
averagejoel posted...
knight is just a ceremonial title now. most don't wear armour. I have serious doubts that Sir Mick Jagger could beat a samurai Sir Mick Jagger is fucking immortal. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame Zero 07/01/18 3:19:11 PM #10: |
lol I actually saw a fistfight and a friendship end back in the day because of this argument.
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averagejoel 07/01/18 3:19:19 PM #11: |
DrizztLink posted...
averagejoel posted...knight is just a ceremonial title now. most don't wear armour. I have serious doubts that Sir Mick Jagger could beat a samurai immortal doesn't mean invulnerable --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 07/01/18 3:24:51 PM #12: |
Sir William Marshal vs Musashi Miyamoto
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TerrifyingRei 07/01/18 3:25:47 PM #13: |
averagejoel posted...
DrizztLink posted...averagejoel posted...knight is just a ceremonial title now. most don't wear armour. I have serious doubts that Sir Mick Jagger could beat a samurai eh, he'll just come back with one of his horcruxes. --- Heee~eeey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 07/01/18 3:27:18 PM #14: |
I don't think a curved katana is the best weapon to fight someone in full armor
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Zikten 07/01/18 3:30:16 PM #15: |
they used to have that show Deadliest Warrior. But I don't remember if they had a samurai fight a knight. I remember a ninja fighting a viking though
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Reis 07/01/18 3:32:35 PM #16: |
frozenshock posted...
Maybe a samurai with a spear might have a better chance Well yes, because polearms > sidearms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PiOverlord 07/01/18 3:34:30 PM #17: |
Zikten posted...
they used to have that show Deadliest Warrior. But I don't remember if they had a samurai fight a knight. I remember a ninja fighting a viking though wrong. Samurai vs. Viking. Ninja vs. Spartan. Then they had Spartan vs Samurai. The pirate faced the knight. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 19; PiO ATTN: 2 RotM wins 1, https://imgur.com/a/JTCCy JUST MONIKA JUST MONIKA JUST MONIKA JUST MONIKA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 07/01/18 3:36:24 PM #18: |
Glorious Nippon Steel folded over thousands of times does not know defeat.
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blablablax17 07/01/18 3:37:21 PM #19: |
Most Knights didn't have full plate armor, as it was incredibly expensive.
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Darkrobotisback 07/01/18 3:37:42 PM #20: |
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GreatEvilEmpire 07/01/18 3:38:38 PM #21: |
Knight with armor is really slow. The samurai has the speed advantage while the knight has the defense advantage. The knight can be toppled and he would be vulnerable on the ground, while mid-range combat would favor the knight.
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Kitt 07/01/18 3:39:25 PM #22: |
Zikten posted...
they used to have that show Deadliest Warrior. But I don't remember if they had a samurai fight a knight. I remember a ninja fighting a viking though They had the Knight fight a pirate --- https://imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://imgur.com/LkrRVe2 https://imgur.com/Dp03g3y Dudes gotta know I be fertile! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BuckVanHammer 07/01/18 3:39:36 PM #23: |
Whata the knight packing for a weapon?
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DuneMan 07/01/18 3:41:22 PM #24: |
A katana would have a rough time against European plate. Prior to the introduction of the crossbow there was little to stop fully armored knights, and most of it involved crushing the person underneath the plate.
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pegusus123456 07/01/18 3:42:11 PM #25: |
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Knight with armor is really slow. This apparently isn't true. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bob742omb 07/01/18 3:42:28 PM #26: |
Reis posted...
If the katana is folded 1000 times then it can cut through the sound barrier you can't fold a katana more than 7 times (i'm kidding) --- bob the buster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFNtqC0ETqo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vocedelmorte 07/01/18 3:43:14 PM #27: |
It depends on quality of katana and what kind of armor it is
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EnragedSlith 07/01/18 3:45:48 PM #28: |
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Knight with armor is really slow. The samurai has the speed advantage while the knight has the defense advantage. The knight can be toppled and he would be vulnerable on the ground, while mid-range combat would favor the knight. None of this is true Also, theres record of European fencing versus whatever it was that Japanese nobility were trained in and the European just trouncing the other --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ilishe 07/01/18 3:57:12 PM #31: |
Impossible to determine the outcome. But I would favor knights.
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Shuto-uke 07/01/18 5:23:36 PM #32: |
Kitt posted...
Zikten posted...they used to have that show Deadliest Warrior. But I don't remember if they had a samurai fight a knight. I remember a ninja fighting a viking though Wasn't that because of fire weapons though? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 07/01/18 5:24:26 PM #33: |
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No. Samurai weren't used to facing enemies as well armored as knights. The majority of their foes were barely armored peasants. Knights on the other hand would train to face equally armored (which samurai were not), or foes that weren't as heavily armored. This guy (goat?) gets it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 07/01/18 5:25:37 PM #34: |
Also, katanas are not as strong as people think
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Mako_Sharknado 07/01/18 5:25:42 PM #35: |
Nah
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MedeaLysistrata 07/01/18 5:27:58 PM #36: |
blablablax17 posted...
Most Knights didn't have full plate armor, as it was incredibly expensive. Runescape is boundless realism --- let's positive thinking [tell me about a complicated man] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModLogic 07/01/18 5:28:35 PM #37: |
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Esrac 07/01/18 5:29:03 PM #38: |
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Makeveli_lives 07/01/18 5:29:52 PM #39: |
Kitt posted...
Zikten posted...they used to have that show Deadliest Warrior. But I don't remember if they had a samurai fight a knight. I remember a ninja fighting a viking though I remember that episode, it was because the pirate had a gun --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpinKirby 07/01/18 5:40:37 PM #40: |
ModLogic posted...
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Reis 07/01/18 5:42:00 PM #41: |
SpinKirby posted...
ModLogic posted...https://imgur.com/b7IS7Ti Lmao the comments in that video ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peter_Giffyndor 07/01/18 5:45:26 PM #42: |
Hayame Zero posted...
lol I actually saw a fistfight and a friendship end back in the day because of this argument. Was it really a fistfight or more of a slap fight with some shirt pulling? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 07/01/18 5:49:46 PM #43: |
SpinKirby posted...
ModLogic posted...https://imgur.com/b7IS7Ti I don't know how impartial this is (imagine japanese people testing katanas vs euro swords and having the katana win), but I actually agree with this. The katana was an engineering marvel and work of art. But it was that because it needed to be: Turns out japanese steel was shit, so the japanese had to develop a method to use hard steel and soft steel lawyers and fold it a 100 times in order to make the steel less shitty. Europeans had better steel naturally ocurring. Also, euro swords were heavy and designed to hit armor, katanas were designed for fast drawing and speed, and for hitting unarmored bodies or leather armor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpinKirby 07/01/18 5:53:48 PM #44: |
I'm actually a fan of Chinese swords, so I really just post those videos for free salt mines.
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DuneMan 07/01/18 5:55:12 PM #45: |
Yeah, that vid, while accurate for those strikes, is an abuse of the katana. They're fast, slicing weapons, meant to cut down peasants. They're not meant to clang against armor or shields and keep fighting, as might happen with European swords.
Of course, if you go by the myths, European swords were 30 pound weights of clunkiness compared to the soul-slicing edge of a katana. :P --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElatedVenusaur 07/01/18 5:58:40 PM #46: |
A knight in full armor is definitely the favorite against a samurai. This isn't a value statement as much as it is based upon Europeans having more and better easily-available iron to work with, and that being reflected in their respective armament.
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darkjedilink 07/01/18 5:58:40 PM #47: |
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Knight with armor is really slow. The samurai has the speed advantage while the knight has the defense advantage. The knight can be toppled and he would be vulnerable on the ground, while mid-range combat would favor the knight. A katana would likely break on a suit of full plate. It would DEFINITELY break against a longsword or zweihander. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBANN_88 07/01/18 6:04:05 PM #48: |
to beat someone in full plate armour, you'd either need something like a mace to bash it.
or, if you can knock him on his back, a dagger, to get in the joints, stab him in the armpits etc. you can also just halfsword it. (hold the sword by the halfway-point of the blade to get more control and then get in the joints) a slicing sword aint gonna do shit --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PMarth2002 07/01/18 6:07:06 PM #49: |
Swords in general are ineffective against metal armor unless you stab into the less protected joints, or use the sword like a club, bashing the enemy's head/helmet with the hilt of the sword (called a murder stroke).
To deal with armor you need something like a mace, a warhammer or a polearm with a heavy blunt end. The impact of those sorts of weapons travels through the armor and can seriously fuck someone up. This is especially of plate mail. You're basically a walking tank with that level of armor. Swords are sidearms, they are rarely ever the knight's or the samurai's primary weapons. --- No matter where you go, there you are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 07/01/18 6:07:38 PM #50: |
A more fair comparison would be between two Knights with different swords, a single hand and a broadsword. Generally reach advantage will win there though if skill is equal.
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