Current Events > I left no tip at a restaurant but days later see they charged me $5 xtra. wat do

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Call the restaurant and think they'll give back my $5? The place I went to was on a trip about 1 hour and a half away so going there is a bit out of the question. Something legal I can do?
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Don't call the restaurant, call the bank or credit card company.

This is why you never use a card unless it's a credit card and you're buying something at an actual store. Never let those fools put more charges on your card. Pay in cash, tip in cash. Never any other way
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Dude

It's five dollars

and you didn't leave a tip

It's five dollars
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SageHarpuia posted...

Dude

It's five dollars

and you didn't leave a tip

It's five dollars

It's the principle of the matter, and maybe the service was bad.
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AvlButtslam posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

Dude

It's five dollars

and you didn't leave a tip

It's five dollars

It's the principle of the matter, and maybe the service was bad.

Exactly. You tip people that give you good service. You don't tip people that give you bad service. It's not hard to understand.
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If you don't want to tip (which is fine Imo) make sure you put $0 on the tip line, so they write it in themselves.
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AvlButtslam posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

Dude

It's five dollars

and you didn't leave a tip

It's five dollars

It's the principle of the matter, and maybe the service was bad.

He could just take this as a lesson and move on. Any way he tries to get the money back would probably cost more than the money itself.
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blablablax17 posted...

If you don't want to tip (which is fine Imo) make sure you put $0 on the tip line, so they write it in themselves.

I put a dash line on the tip section and put the total amount as exact amount charged below it. There was no room for confusion. This was theft.
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myzz7 posted...

blablablax17 posted...

If you don't want to tip (which is fine Imo) make sure you put $0 on the tip line, so they write it in themselves.

I put a dash line on the tip section and put the total amount as exact amount charged below it. There was no room for confusion. This was theft.

Yeah that's straight up theft.
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This happened.

Bad_Mojo posted...

This is why you never use a card unless it's a credit card and you're buying something at an actual store. Never let those fools put more charges on your card. Pay in cash, tip in cash. Never any other way

What? That's straight up paranoia. These types of things don't happen very often, are you really going to live in fear for something that may occur .01% of the time?

This is bad advice.
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I'd see if they are on Yelp and leave that in a review.

Then call the restaurant and tell them that.

Did you take your copy of the receipt?

Also, was the service inadequate? If not, I'd still leave a very negative review but wouldnt pursue 5 bucks.

I just would never visit that establishment again. Or if it's a chain, any other locations.
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chrono625 posted...

Did you take your copy of the receipt?

This. Call your credit card company and contest it.
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Yeah, that's theft. Establishments aren't supposed to take tips without consent unless they have a gratuity fee for large families (which I'm pretty sure it was just you).
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SageHarpuia posted...

Dude

It's five dollars

and you didn't leave a tip

It's five dollars

I mean, what the restaurant did is blatantly illegal and he has a right to contest it.

TC if you have a receipt I'd talk to the restaurant directly first. Or even without one. In my experience restaurants are run by spineless cowards that will buckle to your whims if you complain enough
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No matter how much time passes, the topic of tipping will always trigger CE.
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Cornmuffins posted...

What? That's straight up paranoia. These types of things don't happen very often, are you really going to live in fear for something that may occur .01% of the time?

This is bad advice.

It's not bad advice, IMO. Far too many times I've had people skim my card. Or even heard about someone it's happened to. I had someone at Burger King buy shit on Amazon with my card when there was a "technical problem" with my card and she had to take it to the back

I always pay cash and leave my debit and credit stuff for things that need it like automatically paying my bills or buying something that costs a lot so I can build up my credit.

Also, machines go down, so I always have and pay with cash for most things I buy at a store.
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At the bare minimum, I would call up the restaurant and demand to speak with a manager.

Similar thing happened to me some months ago when I returned a rental car. I filled the gas tank up right before I dropped it off, however after some days I saw a charge on my credit card for the amount of what I thought was a full tank of gas (the tank was just under 50% full when I topped it off).

Luckily I had my receipt, so I called them up and demanded they remove the charge on my card (they did).
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blablablax17 posted...

If you don't want to tip (which is fine Imo) make sure you put $0 on the tip line, so they write it in themselves.

When I get takeout instead of dine-in, I put a long dash across the "tip" space, and rewrite the subtotal in the final "total" line. Also, make sure to put a very clear $ sign next to your numbers, so they can't add more digits.
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I work in a restaurant and some servers are shady as hell. I've had to refund wrong tips before. It takes like 15 minutes and is reflected in your account by the next business day lol.

All this overreaction is hilarious.
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I really need to start walking with cash. I tip, but man it's such a drain to constantly see the option for tipping when I'm ordering take out, when I'm buying something at the bakery, for freaking ice cream! I swear if I see it at the grocery store, I'll nuke the city. And I'm the type of guy who would tip the bagger.

TC, make sure to call up your bank and report the theft, this is unacceptable, just because the server is disgruntled over not getting a $5 tip doesn't mean they have the right to reach into your wallet. I'd go as far as to threaten with a police report.
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Having cash on hand can be a chore but its honestly best for anybody who goes out to eat (esp at a sit down place) or goes to a bar with much frequency. Both types of establishments frankly have the control once you give them your card to charge.
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masticatingman posted...

Having cash on hand can be a chore but its honestly best for anybody who goes out to eat (esp at a sit down place) or goes to a bar with much frequency. Both types of establishments frankly have the control once you give them your card to charge.

Why is it a chore? You keep in your wallet, just like your cards.
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My credit card awards me bonus points for dining, so paying in cash is throwing money away.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

masticatingman posted...

Having cash on hand can be a chore but its honestly best for anybody who goes out to eat (esp at a sit down place) or goes to a bar with much frequency. Both types of establishments frankly have the control once you give them your card to charge.

Why is it a chore? You keep in your wallet, just like your cards.

Unless you specifically use your banks atm you have to pay a 2-4 buck fee.

You have to reload on cash when you run out.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

My credit card awards me bonus points for dining, so paying in cash is throwing money away.

You also have to pay fees for every purchases, so who gives a shit about free points?
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

My credit card awards me bonus points for dining, so paying in cash is throwing money away.

You also have to pay fees for every purchases, so who gives a shit about free points?

Nope, not paying any "fees" either. Maybe you need to find better cards.
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masticatingman posted...

Unless you specifically use your banks atm you have to pay a 2-4 buck fee.

You have to reload on cash when you run out.

I take $200 out each time I cash my check unless I already have cash on me. I don't pack around that much, just what I need if I'm going out.

Seems to be a lazy thing on your part since I'm sure your checks are automatically deposited, right? I take mine to the bank to cash them
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

Nope, not paying any "fees" either. Maybe you need to find better cards.

What's the card? Because I would love a card that let's me buy on credit, and doesn't charge me a small fee or whatever. If you buy something for $1,000 with this card, is that all you owe?
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Call them, management keeps a record of all card receipts. If the server forged one they'll probably get fired if the management is competent at all.

oh, and btw, you're an asshole. Not as big of an asshole as the person who forged a tip, but that still doesn't excuse you.
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Solid Snake07 posted...

oh, and btw, you're an asshole. Not as big of an asshole as the person who forged a tip, but that still doesn't excuse you.

You think you should tip people for shit service? Fuck that
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I've never had to pay any fees when using my credit card. The closest I've ever seen is some gas stations will charge $.10 per gallon of you use cash. Also some places won't let you use a card if your total is less than $5.00.

I use a Capitol one card.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

oh, and btw, you're an asshole. Not as big of an asshole as the person who forged a tip, but that still doesn't excuse you.

You think you should tip people for shit service? Fuck that

He never said he got shit service or tried to justify why he didn't leave a tip, so I'm unsure why you're jumping to that conclusion.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

Nope, not paying any "fees" either. Maybe you need to find better cards.

What's the card? Because I would love a card that let's me buy on credit, and doesn't charge me a small fee or whatever. If you buy something for $1,000 with this card, is that all you owe?

I get free withdrawals from most ATMs, no POS charges, no annual or monthly fees.

People still pay for bank fees?
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

Nope, not paying any "fees" either. Maybe you need to find better cards.

What's the card? Because I would love a card that let's me buy on credit, and doesn't charge me a small fee or whatever. If you buy something for $1,000 with this card, is that all you owe?

Chase Sapphire Preferred. $95 annual fee that is waived the first year. I met the sign-on bonus awarding me a free 50,000 points, which translates to $500. That alone covers the annual fee for 5 years.

$10, $100, $1000 - it doesn't matter. I put that on my card, pay it off on time, and never get hit with any fees. In the 2 years I've had it, I've never paid a cent in interest - all the while, I have 100,000+ points sitting in my bank.

Had those purchases been paid in cash, I'd have zero (0) points in my Chase bank.
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Relient_K posted...

I've never had to pay any fees when using my credit card. The closest I've ever seen is some gas stations will charge $.10 per gallon of you use cash. Also some places won't let you use a card if your total is less than $5.00.

I use a Capitol one card.

It's the APR I'm asking about.

A credit card's interest rate is the price you pay for borrowing money. For credit cards, the interest rates are typically stated as a yearly rate. This is called the annual percentage rate (APR). On most cards, you can avoid paying interest on purchases if you pay your balance in full each month by the due date.

So now I understand that a bit better
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nickels posted...

People still pay for bank fees?

I don't. I'm apart of a credit union
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Call the restaurant and make them aware.

If they don't fix it call the credit card company and dispute the charge.

Stop being a cheap pos and tip.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

masticatingman posted...

Having cash on hand can be a chore but its honestly best for anybody who goes out to eat (esp at a sit down place) or goes to a bar with much frequency. Both types of establishments frankly have the control once you give them your card to charge.

Why is it a chore? You keep in your wallet, just like your cards.

It's a chore because it's significantly less secure than a card and can't be used for online payments unless you buy a gift card for the service you're buying something on..

You lose your card or a fraudulent payment happens, you shut it down/call your bank and get your money back, with ease. You lose your cash, that shit is gone and there's nothing you can do about it

Bad_Mojo posted...

nickels posted...

People still pay for bank fees?

I don't. I'm apart of a credit union

Same. They're far better than normal banks if you can get into one. I have a card myself that doesn't charge any fees aside from interest.
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Also you don't pay fees to use a credit card wtf.

There are many great banking options that will pay back atm fees. Up your bank game.

Also if a business says "no credit under $X" it's a violation of their credit agreement and you can force the issue if need be.
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A credit card's interest rate is the price you pay for borrowing money. For credit cards, the interest rates are typically stated as a yearly rate. This is called the annual percentage rate (APR). On most cards, you can avoid paying interest on purchases if you pay your balance in full.

That's the kicker. Use your credit card like you're supposed to, and it becomes your best friend.
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That's just karmic retribution for being a non-tipper.
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GregShmedley posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

so I'm unsure why you're jumping to that conclusion.

Well you jumped to some sort of conclusion yourself considering you just called him an asshole. >_>

not tipping does make you an asshole. if you got shitty service then leave a shitty tip with a short note, it's a stronger message. leaving nothing just makes you the asshole and justifies in their mind why they gave you shitty service.

Anyway, tc is obviously just trying to stir up and tipping argument. I doubt this even happened. if he got bad service I'm inclined to think he would have mentioned that
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Stop being a cheap pos and tip.

You people are the fucking worst. You honestly think someone deserves a tip if they give you bad service?
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Solid Snake07 posted...

GregShmedley posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

so I'm unsure why you're jumping to that conclusion.

Well you jumped to some sort of conclusion yourself considering you just called him an asshole. >_>

not tipping does make you an asshole. if you got shitty service then leave a shitty tip with a short note, it's a stronger message. leaving nothing just makes you the asshole and justifies in their mind why they gave you shitty service.

Anyway, tc is obviously just trying to stir up and tipping argument. I doubt this even happened. if he got bad service I'm inclined to think he would have mentioned that

The last time I left a shitty tip for bad service I was just told to keep it