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yusiko 07/10/18 8:58:54 PM #103:	Delirious_Beard posted... totalbiscuit only supported GG initially before the whackos hijacked it gamergate started out as an attempt to get zoe quinn to kill herself it was never hijacked it was always about the death and rape threats the ethics in journalism lie started once people started calling them out on it and yes gullible people did believe that and joined up with gamergate but they came to their senses and left once they realized yeah they just joined a group that sent rape threats to an actress for saying something negative about gamergate. this doesnt prove gamergate right its one idiot who is piss poor at the social aspect of her job --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:904851125] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>totalbiscuit only supported GG initially before the whackos hijacked it</quote> gamergate started out as an attempt to get zoe quinn to kill herself it was never hijacked it was always about the death and rape threats the ethics in journalism lie started once people started calling them out on it and yes gullible people did believe that and joined up with gamergate but they came to their senses and left once they realized yeah they just joined a group that sent rape threats to an actress for saying something negative about gamergate. this doesnt prove gamergate right its one idiot who is piss poor at the social aspect of her job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/10/18 8:59:29 PM #104:	yusiko posted... Delirious_Beard posted... totalbiscuit only supported GG initially before the whackos hijacked it gamergate started out as an attempt to get zoe quinn to kill herself it was never hijacked it was always about the death and rape threats the ethics in journalism lie started once people started calling them out on it and yes gullible people did believe that and joined up with gamergate but they came to their senses and left once they realized yeah they just joined a group that sent rape threats to an actress for saying something negative about gamergate. this doesnt prove gamergate right its one idiot who is piss poor at the social aspect of her job Yeah I don't think that's true --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:904851168] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote> totalbiscuit only supported GG initially before the whackos hijacked it</quote> gamergate started out as an attempt to get zoe quinn to kill herself it was never hijacked it was always about the death and rape threats the ethics in journalism lie started once people started calling them out on it and yes gullible people did believe that and joined up with gamergate but they came to their senses and left once they realized yeah they just joined a group that sent rape threats to an actress for saying something negative about gamergate. this doesnt prove gamergate right its one idiot who is piss poor at the social aspect of her job</quote> Yeah I don't think that's true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/10/18 9:00:02 PM #106:	Conflict posted... Vyrulisse posted... I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella. He reminds me of GSYBE holy fuck --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904851202] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella.</quote> He reminds me of GSYBE</quote> holy fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/10/18 9:01:05 PM #107:	I don't think I've ever seen FrisbeeDude type out an orgasm about Hillary Clinton; doesn't seem very GSYBE-y to me. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:904851258] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>I don't think I've ever seen FrisbeeDude type out an orgasm about Hillary Clinton; doesn't seem very GSYBE-y to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 9:03:35 PM #108:	Esrac posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... look at Buzzfeed's toxic and dishonest garbage article https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/people-are-uninstalling-this-game-after-it-fired-a-woman they found a couple tweets with like two Likes and made it into a headline. LMFAO at how desperate Buzzfeed is for people to uninstall the game. all the more reason why ima buy the game when i get home. #GamergateDidNothingWrong But seriously, that and the Polygon article in the OP are pretty much entirely bullshit. this is what Gaters believe. Continue to poison the gaming community's reputation lmao --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904851392] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>look at Buzzfeed's toxic and dishonest garbage article https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/people-are-uninstalling-this-game-after-it-fired-a-woman they found a couple tweets with like two Likes and made it into a headline. LMFAO at how desperate Buzzfeed is for people to uninstall the game. all the more reason why ima buy the game when i get home.</quote> #GamergateDidNothingWrong But seriously, that and the Polygon article in the OP are pretty much entirely bullshit.</quote> this is what Gaters believe. Continue to poison the gaming community's reputation lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/10/18 9:04:33 PM #109:	FrisbeeDude posted... this is what Gaters believe. Continue to poison the gaming community's reputation lmao NibeIungsnarf posted... Can you just explain to me like a normal person without going into absurd rhetoric why someone shouldn't be fired for openly disparaging their consumerbase? <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:904851440] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>this is what Gaters believe. Continue to poison the gaming community's reputation lmao</quote> <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Can you just explain to me like a normal person without going into absurd rhetoric why someone shouldn't be fired for openly disparaging their consumerbase?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 07/10/18 9:05:28 PM #110:	yusiko posted... Delirious_Beard posted... totalbiscuit only supported GG initially before the whackos hijacked it gamergate started out as an attempt to get zoe quinn to kill herself it was never hijacked it was always about the death and rape threats the ethics in journalism lie started once people started calling them out on it and yes gullible people did believe that and joined up with gamergate but they came to their senses and left once they realized yeah they just joined a group that sent rape threats to an actress for saying something negative about gamergate. this doesnt prove gamergate right its one idiot who is piss poor at the social aspect of her job you're not entirely wrong but initially there was a section of people frustrated with the game review industry that hopped on thinking it was something up their alley --- https://imgur.com/5UL2v5u "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:904851498] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>totalbiscuit only supported GG initially before the whackos hijacked it</quote> gamergate started out as an attempt to get zoe quinn to kill herself it was never hijacked it was always about the death and rape threats the ethics in journalism lie started once people started calling them out on it and yes gullible people did believe that and joined up with gamergate but they came to their senses and left once they realized yeah they just joined a group that sent rape threats to an actress for saying something negative about gamergate. this doesnt prove gamergate right its one idiot who is piss poor at the social aspect of her job</quote> you're not entirely wrong but initially there was a section of people frustrated with the game review industry that hopped on thinking it was something up their alley</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/10/18 9:06:54 PM #111:	does FrisbeeDude even game? or does he just pretend to care about the gaming community even though he's been getting bodied in two of these topics now? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904851579] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>does FrisbeeDude even game? or does he just pretend to care about the gaming community even though he's been getting bodied in two of these topics now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiefSosa 07/10/18 9:07:52 PM #112:	Conflict posted... I like how you addressed none of the arguments provided to you. Post just screams "I have nothing to say but I can't go silent because then it'll look like I've lost" this is TC's gimmick does it in every single topic he makes <cite>ChiefSosa posted [p:904851658] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>I like how you addressed none of the arguments provided to you. Post just screams "I have nothing to say but I can't go silent because then it'll look like I've lost"</quote> this is TC's gimmick does it in every single topic he makes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 07/10/18 9:07:57 PM #113:	NibeIungsnarf posted... FrisbeeDude posted... this is what Gaters believe. Continue to poison the gaming community's reputation lmao NibeIungsnarf posted... Can you just explain to me like a normal person without going into absurd rhetoric why someone shouldn't be fired for openly disparaging their consumerbase? If you're waiting for an actual answer, I'd get a comfy chair. TC fled the last topic when someone put him to the screws like this. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:904851664] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>this is what Gaters believe. Continue to poison the gaming community's reputation lmao</quote> <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Can you just explain to me like a normal person without going into absurd rhetoric why someone shouldn't be fired for openly disparaging their consumerbase?</quote></quote> If you're waiting for an actual answer, I'd get a comfy chair. TC fled the last topic when someone put him to the screws like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 9:08:14 PM #114:	Vyrulisse posted... I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella. Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW" --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904851683] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella.</quote> Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rimmer_Dall 07/10/18 9:08:18 PM #115:	DarthAragorn posted... Yeah I don't think that's true It's not. Was there. Would've noticed if it was. If you want a good overview of what was going on during the early days of GG, check the megathread on SpaceBattles. A lot of the links are dead, but other than that it's like travelling back in time to the very start of GG. Thread one, proto-GamerGate Five Guys thread (closed at 35 pages due to a massive flamewar): https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-five-guys-shit-storm.308750/ Thread two, the start of GamerGate proper (closed due to hitting the old 100 page thread limit): https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/games-journalism-thread-two.309618/ Thread three, the megathread (closed due to hitting the new 1500 page thread limit): https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/games-journalism-3-the-staffening.311552/ --- "The cheese it yours turtles." ~ William Shakespeare <cite>Rimmer_Dall posted [p:904851689] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah I don't think that's true</quote> It's not. Was there. Would've noticed if it was. If you want a good overview of what was going on during the early days of GG, check the megathread on SpaceBattles. A lot of the links are dead, but other than that it's like travelling back in time to the very start of GG. Thread one, proto-GamerGate Five Guys thread (closed at 35 pages due to a massive flamewar): https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-five-guys-shit-storm.308750/ Thread two, the start of GamerGate proper (closed due to hitting the old 100 page thread limit): https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/games-journalism-thread-two.309618/ Thread three, the megathread (closed due to hitting the new 1500 page thread limit): https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/games-journalism-3-the-staffening.311552/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/10/18 9:08:51 PM #116:	FrisbeeDude posted... Vyrulisse posted... I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella. Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW" Those publications have been exposed as being absolutely garbage. Like Buzzfeed's shit piece about people "uninstalling the game" lmao --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904851718] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella.</quote> Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW"</quote> Those publications have been exposed as being absolutely garbage. Like Buzzfeed's shit piece about people "uninstalling the game" lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/10/18 9:09:16 PM #117:	FrisbeeDude posted... Vyrulisse posted... I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella. Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW" they haven't provided shit --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:904851742] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella.</quote> Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW"</quote> they haven't provided shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 07/10/18 9:10:09 PM #118:	Kotaku, Buzzfeed and Polygon... what do they all have in common. Thonk. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Gkh_9hyi8 <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:904851794] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Kotaku, Buzzfeed and Polygon... what do they all have in common. Thonk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/10/18 9:10:11 PM #119:	FrisbeeDude posted... Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. Can you explain in your own words how she got a raw deal rather than just saying "Polygon said"? <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:904851795] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal.</quote> Can you explain in your own words how she got a raw deal rather than just saying "Polygon said"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rimmer_Dall 07/10/18 9:10:20 PM #120:	DarthAragorn posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Vyrulisse posted... I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella. Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW" they haven't provided shit Sure they have. They've provided plenty of lies. --- "The cheese it yours turtles." ~ William Shakespeare <cite>Rimmer_Dall posted [p:904851803] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella.</quote> Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW"</quote> they haven't provided shit</quote> Sure they have. They've provided plenty of lies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 9:10:35 PM #121:	DarthAragorn posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Vyrulisse posted... I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella. Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW" they haven't provided shit cool. Everyone is wrong except team Gamergate --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904851814] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>I guess Frisbee abandoned ship. You tried fella.</quote> Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW"</quote> they haven't provided shit</quote> cool. Everyone is wrong except team Gamergate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jborgan 07/10/18 9:11:08 PM #122:	FrisbeeDude posted... "totalbiscuit support an anti-feminist movement. his death does not absolve him of criticism" "why do you think totalbiscuit is trash because he was team gamergate" ...and yall continue to wonder why women and minorities in general how such low regard for the gaming community from a social perspective. sad really What criticism though? Being glad somebody died isn't criticism. That's being an asshole. She was too much of a coward to say anything while he was alive. She wasn't fired because she's a woman. She was fired because she's a piece of shit who burns every bridge she sees and then shitting on the remains. Also, TotalBiscuit wasn't that unreasonable, but you're just dismissing him because he was once a part of Gamergate. That sounds a bit hypocritical. --- http://www.last.fm/user/jborgan <cite>jborgan posted [p:904851851] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>"totalbiscuit support an anti-feminist movement. his death does not absolve him of criticism" "why do you think totalbiscuit is trash because he was team gamergate" ...and yall continue to wonder why women and minorities in general how such low regard for the gaming community from a social perspective. sad really</quote> What criticism though? Being glad somebody died isn't criticism. That's being an asshole. She was too much of a coward to say anything while he was alive. She wasn't fired because she's a woman. She was fired because she's a piece of shit who burns every bridge she sees and then shitting on the remains. Also, TotalBiscuit wasn't that unreasonable, but you're just dismissing him because he was once a part of Gamergate. That sounds a bit hypocritical.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/10/18 9:11:44 PM #123:	lmao @ anyone seriously engaging with Frisbee like there's a chance he might actually specifically answer a question. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:904851886] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>lmao @ anyone seriously engaging with Frisbee like there's a chance he might actually specifically answer a question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 07/10/18 9:11:50 PM #124:	FrisbeeDude posted... Esrac posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... look at Buzzfeed's toxic and dishonest garbage article https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/people-are-uninstalling-this-game-after-it-fired-a-woman they found a couple tweets with like two Likes and made it into a headline. LMFAO at how desperate Buzzfeed is for people to uninstall the game. all the more reason why ima buy the game when i get home. #GamergateDidNothingWrong But seriously, that and the Polygon article in the OP are pretty much entirely bullshit. this is what Gaters believe. Continue to poison the gaming community's reputation lmao I mean, those articles are bullshit. It's already been established that the reddit post they used to vilify the GW2 community there was a disingenuous post made by a user who already hates the GW2 community. It was also downvoted before being deleted, suggesting it wasn't supported by the community. Using it as an attempt to represent them is ignorant at best and possibly deliberately dishonest. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:904851890] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>look at Buzzfeed's toxic and dishonest garbage article https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/people-are-uninstalling-this-game-after-it-fired-a-woman they found a couple tweets with like two Likes and made it into a headline. LMFAO at how desperate Buzzfeed is for people to uninstall the game. all the more reason why ima buy the game when i get home.</quote> #GamergateDidNothingWrong But seriously, that and the Polygon article in the OP are pretty much entirely bullshit.</quote> this is what Gaters believe. Continue to poison the gaming community's reputation lmao</quote> I mean, those articles are bullshit. It's already been established that the reddit post they used to vilify the GW2 community there was a disingenuous post made by a user who already hates the GW2 community. It was also downvoted before being deleted, suggesting it wasn't supported by the community. Using it as an attempt to represent them is ignorant at best and possibly deliberately dishonest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/10/18 9:13:05 PM #125:	ThePrinceFish posted... lmao @ anyone seriously engaging with Frisbee like there's a chance he might actually specifically answer a question. And yet people will forget all about FrisbeeDude in a few days and then just go right on siding with his far left horse shit --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:904851973] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>lmao @ anyone seriously engaging with Frisbee like there's a chance he might actually specifically answer a question.</quote> And yet people will forget all about FrisbeeDude in a few days and then just go right on siding with his far left horse shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 07/10/18 9:18:10 PM #126:	yusiko posted... gamergate started out as an attempt to get zoe quinn to kill herself hahaha no --- https://imgtc.com/i/AuJKAON.gif https://imgtc.com/i/ScpGt0K.gif https://imgtc.com/i/L7oyUct.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/wwsMJDT.gif <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:904852257] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote>gamergate started out as an attempt to get zoe quinn to kill herself</quote> hahaha no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChiefSosa 07/10/18 9:19:32 PM #127:	if you hate video games so much just quite gamefaqs and go outside @FrisbeeDude <cite>ChiefSosa posted [p:904852336] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>if you hate video games so much just quite gamefaqs and go outside @FrisbeeDude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/10/18 9:22:30 PM #128:	FrisbeeDude posted... Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW" Dude she is in the wrong . Some guy disagreed with her .. that's it. The abuse you have gotten in this topic is worst then what he gave her. He was nice just disagreed with her and she came out attacking him and calling names. Hell even the publications that talk about says she went over board but they excused it . --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:904852522] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote> Try what? Several publications have provided more than enough context to easily suggest she got a raw deal. sorry I'm not team gamergate AKA "everyone who doesn't believe this women is 100 percent in the wrong is some crazy SJW"</quote> Dude she is in the wrong . Some guy disagreed with her .. that's it. The abuse you have gotten in this topic is worst then what he gave her. He was nice just disagreed with her and she came out attacking him and calling names. Hell even the publications that talk about says she went over board but they excused it .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 9:29:52 PM #129:	While many members of the Guild Wars forums and subreddit applauded the firings, a few called the action by ArenaNet cowardly and overly harsh. Other game developers lashed out at ArenaNet on Twitter, saying that the developer didnt support its employees. Here I thought being indie meant I was on-the-clock 24/7, said Rami Ismail, one half of developer Vlambeer, on Twitter, but apparently AAA means just that but also being forced to take whatever shit people fling at you because standards of communicating with our community and we make the game for you (so feel free to give our devs shit). Sad to see a fellow writer pay the price for being human, said Chet Faliszek, formerly of Valve and now at Bossa Studios. Companies need to learn, these interactions cost you nothing, you lose no customers, a week later no one remembers. But when you dont support your employees? The industry is small enough and we all do remember. Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of shit who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter. Others criticized ArenaNet for emboldening aggressiveness and potential retaliation aimed at game developers. Glad to see a few decent people out there amongst all the sludge --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904852992] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>While many members of the Guild Wars forums and subreddit applauded the firings, a few called the action by ArenaNet cowardly and overly harsh. Other game developers lashed out at ArenaNet on Twitter, saying that the developer didnt support its employees. Here I thought being indie meant I was on-the-clock 24/7, said Rami Ismail, one half of developer Vlambeer, on Twitter, but apparently AAA means just that but also being forced to take whatever shit people fling at you because standards of communicating with our community and we make the game for you (so feel free to give our devs shit). Sad to see a fellow writer pay the price for being human, said Chet Faliszek, formerly of Valve and now at Bossa Studios. Companies need to learn, these interactions cost you nothing, you lose no customers, a week later no one remembers. But when you dont support your employees? The industry is small enough and we all do remember. Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of shit who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter. Others criticized ArenaNet for emboldening aggressiveness and potential retaliation aimed at game developers. Glad to see a few decent people out there amongst all the sludge</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 07/10/18 9:30:44 PM #130:	How exactly did Deroir 'fling shit' at those devs. --- https://imgtc.com/i/FoEetUh.gif https://imgtc.com/i/oeysOEy.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:904853041] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>How exactly did Deroir 'fling shit' at those devs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 9:30:56 PM #131:	Guys, I get it. she said asshat SHE HAD TO GO --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904853057] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Guys, I get it. she said asshat SHE HAD TO GO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/10/18 9:31:43 PM #132:	FrisbeeDude posted... Guys, I get it. she said a chat. SHE HAD TO GO Lmao your trolling is getting more and more incoherent. Maybe take a break? --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:904853103] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, I get it. she said a chat. SHE HAD TO GO</quote> Lmao your trolling is getting more and more incoherent. Maybe take a break?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 07/10/18 9:37:00 PM #133:	ThePrinceFish posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Guys, I get it. she said a chat. SHE HAD TO GO Lmao your trolling is getting more and more incoherent. Maybe take a break? Don't make fun, women around the world are losing their right to say a chat. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:904853399] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, I get it. she said a chat. SHE HAD TO GO</quote> Lmao your trolling is getting more and more incoherent. Maybe take a break?</quote> Don't make fun, women around the world are losing their right to say a chat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/10/18 9:38:44 PM #134:	masterpug53 posted... ThePrinceFish posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Guys, I get it. she said a chat. SHE HAD TO GO Lmao your trolling is getting more and more incoherent. Maybe take a break? Don't make fun, women around the world are losing their right to say a chat. When will the madness end? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:904853496] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterpug53 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote> Guys, I get it. she said a chat. SHE HAD TO GO </quote> Lmao your trolling is getting more and more incoherent. Maybe take a break?</quote> Don't make fun, women around the world are losing their right to say a chat.</quote> When will the madness end?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 07/10/18 9:41:19 PM #136:	FrisbeeDude posted... Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s* who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter. Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:904853631] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s* who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter.</quote> Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 9:49:54 PM #137:	dave_is_slick posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s*** who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter. Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods. This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904854095] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s*** who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter.</quote> Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods.</quote> This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 07/10/18 9:50:56 PM #138:	FrisbeeDude posted... dave_is_slick posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s* who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter. Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods. This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them The majority of people are not on her side in this situation. Just because the usual suspects and their echo chamber try to spin it that way doesn't make it true. In a broader sense the majority of people in general are not self-important and self-deluded extremists like her and her ilk. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Gkh_9hyi8 <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:904854153] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s* who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter.</quote> Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods.</quote> This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them</quote> The majority of people are not on her side in this situation. Just because the usual suspects and their echo chamber try to spin it that way doesn't make it true. In a broader sense the majority of people in general are not self-important and self-deluded extremists like her and her ilk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rimmer_Dall 07/10/18 9:52:08 PM #139:	Conflict posted... By daring to criticize a woman Correction: By daring to only mostly agree with a woman. --- "The cheese it yours turtles." ~ William Shakespeare <cite>Rimmer_Dall posted [p:904854240] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>By daring to criticize a woman</quote> Correction: By daring to only mostly agree with a woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/10/18 9:55:16 PM #140:	Vyrulisse posted... One good thing came from the Buzzfeed article, this comment: Megan Fraser People don't seem to understand: Jessica's visceral reaction to anyone daring to say anything other than complete agreement with her didn't happen in a vacuum. She wasn't fired for this one incident. All one has to do is go through Jessica Price's history to see a type of douchey behavior and anger-filled hypocrisy and lashing out that spans years. She spends her whole time on social media decrying the very type of behavior she herself exhibits, and has no situational awareness to that fact. We're talking about a woman who cheered TotalBiscuit dying. We're talking about a woman who went on a crusade to try to shut down a charity that used gaming to raise money to feed the homeless because the owners of the club kept their group apolitical and wouldn't allow ultra-prog agenda driving that had nothing to do with their hobby by advertising some 3rd wave feminist convention. Think about that: She attacked a ==CHARITY==. We're talking about a woman that basically with every post insults somebody or denigrates the entire industry for harmless reasons she blows out of proportions. By any measure, she's an abjectly terrible human being. Her latest salvo was just the straw that broke the camel's back. She doesn't speak for all women, and she sure as hell doesn't speak for me. If anything, her diatribes and spewing of hatred just harms the very cause she claims to represent. She's a nasty, terrible, worthless person, and karma finally scored a point. Anybody who uninstalled Guild Wars as a result of this (all 4 of them amongst the entire player base), I'm sure this is a win for every other player. Because for all the talk she makes about toxicity in gaming, she's just about the most toxic thing in it herself. @FrisbeeDude --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:904854429] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>One good thing came from the Buzzfeed article, this comment: <quote> Megan Fraser People don't seem to understand: Jessica's visceral reaction to anyone daring to say anything other than complete agreement with her didn't happen in a vacuum. She wasn't fired for this one incident. All one has to do is go through Jessica Price's history to see a type of douchey behavior and anger-filled hypocrisy and lashing out that spans years. She spends her whole time on social media decrying the very type of behavior she herself exhibits, and has no situational awareness to that fact. We're talking about a woman who cheered TotalBiscuit dying. We're talking about a woman who went on a crusade to try to shut down a charity that used gaming to raise money to feed the homeless because the owners of the club kept their group apolitical and wouldn't allow ultra-prog agenda driving that had nothing to do with their hobby by advertising some 3rd wave feminist convention. Think about that: She attacked a ==CHARITY==. We're talking about a woman that basically with every post insults somebody or denigrates the entire industry for harmless reasons she blows out of proportions. By any measure, she's an abjectly terrible human being. Her latest salvo was just the straw that broke the camel's back. She doesn't speak for all women, and she sure as hell doesn't speak for me. If anything, her diatribes and spewing of hatred just harms the very cause she claims to represent. She's a nasty, terrible, worthless person, and karma finally scored a point. Anybody who uninstalled Guild Wars as a result of this (all 4 of them amongst the entire player base), I'm sure this is a win for every other player. Because for all the talk she makes about toxicity in gaming, she's just about the most toxic thing in it herself.</quote></quote> @FrisbeeDude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 07/10/18 9:57:01 PM #141:	FrisbeeDude posted... dave_is_slick posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s* who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter. Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods. This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them Must be hard maintaining the trolling, your posts, while not the words of a smart person to begin with, have deteriorated. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:904854530] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s* who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter.</quote> Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods.</quote> This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them</quote> Must be hard maintaining the trolling, your posts, while not the words of a smart person to begin with, have deteriorated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/10/18 9:57:23 PM #142:	I'm amazed people are still giving FrisbeeDude the time of day. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:904854546] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>I'm amazed people are still giving FrisbeeDude the time of day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/10/18 9:58:55 PM #143:	CyricZ posted... I'm amazed people are still giving FrisbeeDude the time of day. I just want to see how he'll mental gymnastic out of that testimony. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:904854638] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm amazed people are still giving FrisbeeDude the time of day.</quote> I just want to see how he'll mental gymnastic out of that testimony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 07/10/18 10:04:33 PM #145:	Goats posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Guys, I get it. she said asshat SHE HAD TO GO Guys, come on. After this post even the most thick headed of you should have stopped taking this account seriously gogoat. The unedited post was funnier. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:904854971] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Goats posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Guys, I get it. she said asshat SHE HAD TO GO</quote> Guys, come on. After this post even the most thick headed of you should have stopped taking this account seriously gogoat.</quote> The unedited post was funnier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 10:11:46 PM #146:	Vyrulisse posted... FrisbeeDude posted... dave_is_slick posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s*** who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter. Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods. This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them The majority of people are not on her side in this situation. Just because the usual suspects and their echo chamber try to spin it that way doesn't make it true. In a broader sense the majority of people in general are not self-important and self-deluded extremists like her and her ilk. several journalism outlets and her own peers have come out in support of her versus...comment sections, gamergaters and a reddit that think a mean tweet that didnt use super profane language (I'm sorry asshat rustles your jimmies), slurs or the like, 1000 percent got what she dersvered im ok with the side I chose. yall can prattle on about femsnazis or whatever. I'm sure she'll be fine and yall will continue on your "crusade" against those mean girls. --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904855400] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s*** who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter.</quote> Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods.</quote> This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them</quote> The majority of people are not on her side in this situation. Just because the usual suspects and their echo chamber try to spin it that way doesn't make it true. In a broader sense the majority of people in general are not self-important and self-deluded extremists like her and her ilk.</quote> several journalism outlets and her own peers have come out in support of her versus...comment sections, gamergaters and a reddit that think a mean tweet that didnt use super profane language (I'm sorry asshat rustles your jimmies), slurs or the like, 1000 percent got what she dersvered im ok with the side I chose. yall can prattle on about femsnazis or whatever. I'm sure she'll be fine and yall will continue on your "crusade" against those mean girls.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 07/10/18 10:12:50 PM #147:	FrisbeeDude posted... Vyrulisse posted... FrisbeeDude posted... dave_is_slick posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s* who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter. Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods. This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them The majority of people are not on her side in this situation. Just because the usual suspects and their echo chamber try to spin it that way doesn't make it true. In a broader sense the majority of people in general are not self-important and self-deluded extremists like her and her ilk. several journalism outlets and her own peers have come out in support of her versus...comment sections, gamergaters and a reddit that think a mean tweet that didnt use super profane language (I'm sorry asshat rustles your jimmies), slurs or the like, 1000 percent got what she dersvered im ok with the side I chose. yall can prattle on about femsnazis or whatever. I'm sure she'll be fine and yall will continue on your "crusade" against those mean girls. Stop talking. You are as bad as the fucking Trump cultists here. Hope you're proud of that. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:904855470] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Night in the Woods developer Scott Benson was harsher, calling ArenaNet cowardly pieces of s* who sell out their workers at the drop of a hat on Twitter.</quote> Sucks that he's apparently a fucking idiot. I love Night in the Woods.</quote> This is why the outside world laughs at yall. This is why despite all the achievements gamers have made since the days of Jack Thompson, they have the social reputation they do, but hey, maybe they like being known as intolerant man children who rail against mo. rule into a lady is too mean to one of them</quote> The majority of people are not on her side in this situation. Just because the usual suspects and their echo chamber try to spin it that way doesn't make it true. In a broader sense the majority of people in general are not self-important and self-deluded extremists like her and her ilk.</quote> several journalism outlets and her own peers have come out in support of her versus...comment sections, gamergaters and a reddit that think a mean tweet that didnt use super profane language (I'm sorry asshat rustles your jimmies), slurs or the like, 1000 percent got what she dersvered im ok with the side I chose. yall can prattle on about femsnazis or whatever. I'm sure she'll be fine and yall will continue on your "crusade" against those mean girls.</quote> Stop talking. You are as bad as the fucking Trump cultists here. Hope you're proud of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 07/10/18 10:13:20 PM #148:	dave_is_slick posted... How disconnected from reality are you sillyknees? Wait frisbee is sillyknees? --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:904855499] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote>How disconnected from reality are you sillyknees?</quote> Wait frisbee is sillyknees?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 10:20:14 PM #149:	Stop talking. You are as bad as the f*ing Trump cultists here. Hope you're proud of that. no u --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904855956] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Stop talking. You are as bad as the f***ing Trump cultists here. Hope you're proud of that. no u</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iHeartMota 07/10/18 10:22:58 PM #150:	RIP frisbeedude to resort to that. --- "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." - Calvin and Hobbes <cite>iHeartMota posted [p:904856102] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>RIP frisbeedude to resort to that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/10/18 10:26:30 PM #151:	lmao the fuck am I supposed to say to that shit --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904856303] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>lmao the fuck am I supposed to say to that shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FeatherCoin462 07/10/18 10:27:27 PM #152:	Pussy pass denied, she got the boot <cite>FeatherCoin462 posted [p:904856353] in ArenaNet&#... [t:76795233]...</cite> <quote>Pussy pass denied, she got the boot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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