Current Events > Assassin's Creed Odyssey seems so pointless

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Hurr you can be a gladiator and make moral choices but only the girl's story is canon so don't get too excited

They literally are just doing this for the historical settings which is cool, but how tf did they think going backwards in time was good for a series they're hoping to move forward

Might be the first AC I skip altogether
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Hurr you can be a gladiator and make moral choices but only the girl's story is canon so don't get too excited

Seriously?
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It's the same story I thought. Just the protagonist changes
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LightningAce11 posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Hurr you can be a gladiator and make moral choices but only the girl's story is canon so don't get too excited

Seriously?

Yep, they confirmed Kassandra's the canon route shortly afterwards

Congrats Ubi

You have you female protagonist lead for the first time ever

Oh wait

No you don't

You did that all the way back with Liberation

Y'all forgetful or something
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

They literally are just doing this for the historical settings

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Hurr

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Freddie_Mercury posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

They literally are just doing this for the historical settings

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Hurr

Every modern day plot since AC4 has been "Oh there might be a piece of Eden in this time line go check it out"

Origins is the exception but Odyssey is literally taking that exact same approach
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If you're still playing AC for a story you're doing it wrong

AvantgardeAClue posted...

They literally are just doing this for the historical settings which is cool, but how tf did they think going backwards in time was good for a series they're hoping to move forward

It worked for Origins.
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I dont see the problem with either of the two things you complained about
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Axiom posted...

If you're still playing AC for a story you're doing it wrong

I'm not, Syndicate is one of my favorite in the series

But with all these half-assed RPG mechanics it's starting to feel like a WRPG with free running
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

but how tf did they think going backwards in time was good for a series they're hoping to move forward

They already went backwards for Origins. No reason why they can't do it again (though it does take the meaning out of naming the last one "Origins").

im sick of the past. i want a future ass. spaceass.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

But with all these half-assed RPG mechanics it's starting to feel like a WRPG with free running

Yeah, they've clearly gone in a more RPG direction with Origins and now Odyssey
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Vertania posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

but how tf did they think going backwards in time was good for a series they're hoping to move forward

They already went backwards for Origins. No reason why they can't do it again (though it does take the meaning out of naming the last one "Origins").

I mean that one was about the origins of the assassins

We dont even know if the two pro tags are even assassins in Odyssey
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Antifar posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

They literally are just doing this for the historical settings which is cool, but how tf did they think going backwards in time was good for a series they're hoping to move forward

It worked for Origins.

That game was actually necessary to reboot the series

But with Odyssey they're stalling yet again

Samurontai posted...

I dont see the problem with either of the two things you complained about

The gladiators thing is the furthest from the actual Assassins vs Templars conflict that it basically is just an Assassin's Creed game in name

It takes place long before either group was created and the only relevance it has is "Hurr the spear of Leonidas might be a First Civilization artifact"

That's like saying any RPG is a Kingdom Hearts game just because there's Gummi Ships in it

and the canon route already confirmed means that they're just throwing in popular RPG mechanics that are the trend

Plus moral choices totally go against how an Animus works
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Cant wait for the exhausting grind of gathering gold and resource materials bc of the economy based around helix credit$
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Srs tho, i hope they add a decent present day

Its been a slow slow drip feed since iii
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

The gladiators thing is the furthest from the actual Assassins vs Templars conflict that it basically is just an Assassin's Creed game in name, and the canon route already confirmed means that they're just throwing in popular RPG mechanics that are the trend

Plus moral choices totally go against how an Animus works

Source for this, because afaik there hasnt been a canon origin story regarding the Templars yet, so unless thats proven otherwise no time is too far away. You can still have an origin of the Templars without the assassins, one did have to come before the other after all.

Technically you arent supposed to go into the history of someone who isnt your ancestor, but that didnt seem to stop the protagonist of Origins from dwelling into Ayas past
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Lordgold666 posted...

Srs tho, i hope they add a decent present day

Its been a slow slow drip feed since iii

With Syndicate being the closest historical setting to modern-day in the main series I thought they'd do it but nope

Meanwhile cool 20th century settings like Russia and fucking WW2 are limited to side scrollers and comic books
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Btw, I just looked it up and

It takes place long before either group was created and the only relevance it has is "Hurr the spear of Leonidas might be a First Civilization artifact

This is just untrue
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Samurontai posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

The gladiators thing is the furthest from the actual Assassins vs Templars conflict that it basically is just an Assassin's Creed game in name, and the canon route already confirmed means that they're just throwing in popular RPG mechanics that are the trend

Plus moral choices totally go against how an Animus works

Source for this, because afaik there hasnt been a canon origin story regarding the Templars yet, so unless thats proven otherwise no time is too far away. You can still have an origin of the Templars without the assassins, one did have to come before the other after all.

Technically you arent supposed to go into the history of someone who isnt your ancestor, but that didnt seem to stop the protagonist of Origins from dwelling into Ayas past

Animus systems allow you to relive an ancestor's memories as long as you have their DNA. Keyword here being "memories", which moral choices would completely contradict because your ancestors' memories aren't supposed to be that flexible.

Ubisoft's response to this? "Layla's Animus is special." Are you fucking kidding me

The Assassin and Templar war began in Origins with the Hidden Ones and Order of the Ancients and lasted publicly until the Crusades, which Unity shows. Anything that happened earlier is either one massive coincidence or Ubisoft retconned a game that's not even a year old.
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I've only ever tried the first game and I hated it. It was really boring to me.
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-Make the girl's route only canon
-But can still play as a guy
Ubisoft has no balls lmfao
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Relient_K posted...

I've only ever tried the first game and I hated it. It was really boring to me.

That is generally considered the worst in the series while AC2 is considered one of the best so I'd give it another chance

I played the first one earlier this year and it was painful even for a big fan like me

Meanwhile AC2 is better in literally every single way, the perfect sequel
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Samurontai posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

The gladiators thing is the furthest from the actual Assassins vs Templars conflict that it basically is just an Assassin's Creed game in name, and the canon route already confirmed means that they're just throwing in popular RPG mechanics that are the trend

Plus moral choices totally go against how an Animus works

Source for this, because afaik there hasnt been a canon origin story regarding the Templars yet, so unless thats proven otherwise no time is too far away. You can still have an origin of the Templars without the assassins, one did have to come before the other after all.

Technically you arent supposed to go into the history of someone who isnt your ancestor, but that didnt seem to stop the protagonist of Origins from dwelling into Ayas past

Animus systems allow you to relive an ancestor's memories as long as you have their DNA. Keyword here being "memories", which moral choices would completely contradict because your ancestors' memories aren't supposed to be that flexible.

Ubisoft's response to this? "Layla's Animus is special." Are you fucking kidding me

The Assassin and Templar war began in Origins with the Hidden Ones and Order of the Ancients and lasted publicly until the Crusades, which Unity shows. Anything that happened earlier is either one massive coincidence or Ubisoft retconned a game that's not even a year old.

Whats wrong with an animus being different? I really dont understand your complaint here.

Why is this one different???

Also, wrong. There are references that state that the order could have been around since the fall of the first civilization
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Relient_K posted...

I've only ever tried the first game and I hated it. It was really boring to me.

I tried playing Assassins Creed IV again (which I enjoyed but never finished on Xbox) and I think the games have aged very very poorly in the four-ish years since. The climbing feels really limited, combat sucks, and stealth is really poor.
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Hell, theres hints that fucking Cain could have very well been the origins of the Templar order
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Relient_K posted...

I've only ever tried the first game and I hated it. It was really boring to me.

The first one is widely hated for that reason (being boring). I had given up on the series for years after playing AC1 too, but thankfully my roommate conviced me to give AC2 a try.

It is decent on a replay after you've played the others, but anyone jumping into the series should just rush through it asap or watch/read a summary.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

But with Odyssey they're stalling yet again

AvantgardeAClue posted...

The gladiators thing is the furthest from the actual Assassins vs Templars conflict that it basically is just an Assassin's Creed game in name

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Hurr

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Doe posted...

I tried playing Assassins Creed IV again (which I enjoyed but never finished on Xbox) and I think the games have aged very very poorly in the four-ish years since. The climbing feels really limited, combat sucks, and stealth is really poor.

I just replayed it last year and absolutely loved. Didn't really like it the first time, but I played to 100% this time.

Oddly enough, AC1 probably has the tightest combat and stealth, but everything else kind of ruined it. Unity tried to take the gameplay back to resemble the first game more, but everyone ended up hating that too.

Samurontai posted...

Hell, theres hints that fucking Cain could have very well been the origins of the Templar order

Definitely wouldn't be surprised if they went that route. They already used Adam and Eve as characters.

Samurontai posted...

Whats wrong with an animus being different? I really dont understand your complaint here.

Why is this one different???

Animus systems are supposed to let you relive ancestor memories, not alter them. That's why you can 100% certain memories: that's how the character did them historically. Ubisoft is rewriting their own lore to fit the settings

Samurontai posted...

Hell, theres hints that fucking Cain could have very well been the origins of the Templar order

I'm aware, but the modern-day Assassin/Templar conflict originated from the groups formed in Origins. To go back either means that they're ignoring what happened in Origins or trying to shoehorn some lore in there. Their comments on what makes this game an AC game in terms of overall impact are troubling too.

Freddie_Mercury posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

But with Odyssey they're stalling yet again

AvantgardeAClue posted...

The gladiators thing is the furthest from the actual Assassins vs Templars conflict that it basically is just an Assassin's Creed game in name

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Hurr

You're not using that quote system right
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Doe posted...

-Make the girl's route only canon
-But can still play as a guy
Ubisoft has no balls lmfao

In Origins they literally put women in the hieroglyphs and paintings for no other reason than to be inclusive and they say as such in the same descriptions

I'm all for being inclusive but holy shit can you not compromise your reputable historical accuracy in the process
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"memories aren't supposed to be that flexible"

You can spend 20 hours running in circles. I doubt the grandmaster of the assassin's literally did that.
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Here's Ubi's confirmation that the series doesn't have anything resembling the Assassin/Templar conflict

https://i.redd.it/t39x5h3f8a811.png

"AC is about experiencing key moments in history"

.....from a perspective that's virtually unheard of in history outside of a few eyewitness reports (female Athenian gladiator)

This is Battlefield 5 levels of bad historical relevancy
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Yeah I'm not really sure how running around picking up collectibles is supposed to be an accurate memory, lol
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I heard they censored historical statues for being nude and also apparently the statues in Odyssey are white and plain despite them being painted at the time?
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Doe posted...

I heard they censored historical statues for being nude and also apparently the statues in Odyssey are white and plain despite them being painted as the time?

Never heard of that but I wouldn't be surprised lol

Oh no Ubisoft, history wasn't very fucking inclusive after all. they all of people should understand that
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

female Athenian gladiator

You mean hoplite, wait are they really saying she is a gladiator?
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Doe posted...

I heard they censored historical statues for being nude and also apparently the statues in Odyssey are white and plain despite them being painted at the time?

Why would they censor their own game?
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I thought the main character was a mercenary
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I wish they had saved Russia for a main entry.
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Dathrowed1 posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

female Athenian gladiator

You mean hoplite, wait are they really saying she is a gladiator?

You can be an Athenian or Roman Gladiator from being a mercenary

Behaviorism posted...

Doe posted...

I heard they censored historical statues for being nude and also apparently the statues in Odyssey are white and plain despite them being painted at the time?

Why would they censor their own game?

Because Ubisoft has been nervous about nonexistent SJW outrage until recent years but have no balls to take a stance so they just try to please everyone
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

You can be an Athenian or Roman Gladiator from being a mercenary

Seems historically gladiators may have been Tyrrhenian then to the Romans, but not really Greek
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Why don't they have a game in modern Tokyo dealing with the yakuza(who are really templars)
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Doe posted...

I heard they censored historical statues for being nude and also apparently the statues in Odyssey are white and plain despite them being painted as the time?

Never heard of that but I wouldn't be surprised lol

Oh no Ubisoft, history wasn't very fucking inclusive after all. they all of people should understand that

It's worse than that. Beyond censoring famous sculptures, Ubi admits they actively altered famous art used in Origins to make it "more inclusive":
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/02/ubisoft-admits-rewriting-history-assassins-creed-origins-avoid-historical-sexism/52115/

Here both girls and boys are shown attending a class given by one of the rhetoricians of the era.

The team made the choice to show both genders attending class within the context of the game world. Even though it is historically inaccurate, the team felt it was not necessary to prioritize historical sexism over inclusive gameplay.

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