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Dusk_
07/12/18 6:39:58 PM
#151:


Taharqa_ posted...
Dusk_ posted...
mario2000 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
mario2000 posted...
RamboCell29 posted...
The benefit of being black is that you will never be convicted of a hate crime.

yeah cuz the cops'll just shoot em dead in the street


Perpetuating nonsense like this is why blacks continue to be brought up thinking it's okay for them to run and fight with the police. Try not contributing to the cycle.

grr why don't those darn blacks just shut up and accept their extrajudicial executions


Well if resisting arrest wasn't such a common thing in certain communities, such horrible events would never occur. I mean why do people love dogs but are scared of Wolves?

Yes there has been a fear of Wolves engrained in the minds of people but still doesn't change the fact wolves are generally more aggressive and unpredictable then the average dog.


You think police only shoot black people that are resisting arrest? TF? Black people have been shoot if police THOUGHT they saw a weapon and for obeying orders.

And LOL @ comparing us to wolves. DL Hughley was right, the worst place for a black person to be is in a white person's imagination


It was unarmed black people.. which again you look at the racist statistics were "resisting"

Lol don't flatter yourself. You could never be a Wolf.
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Bishop9800
07/12/18 6:40:27 PM
#152:


mario2000 posted...
Dusk_ posted...
Conflict posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
Dusk is genuinely racist, so don't expect anything meaningful from him.


I always find it interesting how the people who call Kineth and the like "racist" wind up saying shit like "saying the N-word is funny" and comparing black people to wolves


If you really think i am racist.. why would i make an analogy of black people being Wolves..which cimplies i said white people are Dogs which are lesser then Wolves. How does that work?

so according to you white people are dogs aka the "good ones" while black people are wolves aka the "savage ones"

jesus

fucking

christ

i can see the cross you're burning from here


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TrevorBlack79
07/12/18 6:41:31 PM
#153:


Dusk_ posted...
I assumed you thought the BLM thinks black people can't be racist was a lie.


Dude, you need to work on your reading comprehension, because that wasn't even what was being discussed. The claim in question was "BLM's official position is that all white people are racist." I pointed out that this was a lie. Here's DJL's post quoted in full:

darkjedilink posted...
CyricZ posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
Like saying all white people are racist?

Here is a thing that anyone has done.

It's the official position of BLM, and their supporters by extension.

It's literally taught on college campuses.


Even if the claim had been "BLM's official position is that black people can't be racist," it would still be a lie, but that is neither here nor there.

You should really try to be aware of the full discussion being had before weighing in, lambasting a user with insults based exclusively on your misunderstanding of the discussion, then backpedaling while being sure to throw out another "well you deserved it" style insult, again based entirely on your misunderstanding.
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CruelBuffalo
07/12/18 6:45:18 PM
#154:


RamboCell29 posted...
The benefit of being black is that you will never be convicted of a hate crime.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015/topic-pages/victims_final
Youre full of shit. 20% of victims of race-only hate crimes were white.
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Taharqa_
07/12/18 6:46:30 PM
#155:


Dusk_ posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Dusk_ posted...
mario2000 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
mario2000 posted...
RamboCell29 posted...
The benefit of being black is that you will never be convicted of a hate crime.

yeah cuz the cops'll just shoot em dead in the street


Perpetuating nonsense like this is why blacks continue to be brought up thinking it's okay for them to run and fight with the police. Try not contributing to the cycle.

grr why don't those darn blacks just shut up and accept their extrajudicial executions


Well if resisting arrest wasn't such a common thing in certain communities, such horrible events would never occur. I mean why do people love dogs but are scared of Wolves?

Yes there has been a fear of Wolves engrained in the minds of people but still doesn't change the fact wolves are generally more aggressive and unpredictable then the average dog.


You think police only shoot black people that are resisting arrest? TF? Black people have been shoot if police THOUGHT they saw a weapon and for obeying orders.

And LOL @ comparing us to wolves. DL Hughley was right, the worst place for a black person to be is in a white person's imagination


It was unarmed black people.. which again you look at the racist statistics were "resisting"

Lol don't flatter yourself. You could never be a Wolf.


Um, English?
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_RETS_
07/12/18 7:01:25 PM
#157:


Conflict posted...
_RETS_ posted...
mario2000 posted...
RamboCell29 posted...
The benefit of being black is that you will never be convicted of a hate crime.

yeah cuz the cops'll just shoot em dead in the street


Perpetuating nonsense like this is why blacks continue to be brought up thinking it's okay for them to run and fight with the police. Try not contributing to the cycle.


I don't know about you but I'm a lot more inclined to blame the recurring instances of unpunished police brutality than people saying "the cops will just shoot you for being black" semi-ironically in observation of these instances


And is it likelier the case that this just doesn't happen to white people or that when it does the media doesn't feel the need to force a narrative down your throat?
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The Great Muta 22
07/12/18 8:18:33 PM
#158:


I'm still waiting for an example of people here or "on the left" in general defending her. Still haven't gotten any legit examples despite the barrage of shitposters doing their typical bullshit here.

Oh and Dusk openly calling "certain" blacks uncivilized. That happened too
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FrisbeeDude
07/12/18 8:21:56 PM
#159:


wait wait wait...do people seriously believe scores of black kids are taught to fight the police in the street if they feel they've been wronged?
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DarkProto05
07/12/18 8:35:16 PM
#160:


Dusk_ posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Dusk_ posted...
mario2000 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
mario2000 posted...
RamboCell29 posted...
The benefit of being black is that you will never be convicted of a hate crime.

yeah cuz the cops'll just shoot em dead in the street


Perpetuating nonsense like this is why blacks continue to be brought up thinking it's okay for them to run and fight with the police. Try not contributing to the cycle.

grr why don't those darn blacks just shut up and accept their extrajudicial executions


Well if resisting arrest wasn't such a common thing in certain communities, such horrible events would never occur. I mean why do people love dogs but are scared of Wolves?

Yes there has been a fear of Wolves engrained in the minds of people but still doesn't change the fact wolves are generally more aggressive and unpredictable then the average dog.


You think police only shoot black people that are resisting arrest? TF? Black people have been shoot if police THOUGHT they saw a weapon and for obeying orders.

And LOL @ comparing us to wolves. DL Hughley was right, the worst place for a black person to be is in a white person's imagination


It was unarmed black people.. which again you look at the racist statistics were "resisting"

Lol don't flatter yourself. You could never be a Wolf.

If you think it's okay to kill someone without a weapon who is resisting you're the savage wolf, not the person resisting.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/12/18 8:36:23 PM
#161:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
I'm still waiting for an example of people here or "on the left" in general defending her. Still haven't gotten any legit examples despite the barrage of s***posters doing their typical bulls*** here.


It's more that there are certain usual suspects who won't condemn her, but if she was a white woman they'd be posting about the hate crime non stop. Can't really tag them without getting modded though.
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Shuto-uke
07/12/18 8:37:48 PM
#162:


Question for the maga people here. How do you feel about this?

In one side, the victim is hispanic. On the other side, the aggressor is black. It's one of those moments for that "press one of these 2 buttons dillema" meme pics that get posted here for you guys. I bet many of you were ready to defend the aggressor no matter what until you saw what the aggressor looked like lol
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The Great Muta 22
07/12/18 9:23:32 PM
#163:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
I'm still waiting for an example of people here or "on the left" in general defending her. Still haven't gotten any legit examples despite the barrage of s***posters doing their typical bulls*** here.


It's more that there are certain usual suspects who won't condemn her, but if she was a white woman they'd be posting about the hate crime non stop. Can't really tag them without getting modded though.


Sounds like you're simply making up the reality you want to be true to justify your own biases, tbh
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Kineth
07/12/18 9:24:59 PM
#164:


Conflict posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
Dusk is genuinely racist, so don't expect anything meaningful from him.


I always find it interesting how the people who call Kineth and the like "racist" wind up saying shit like "saying the N-word is funny" and comparing black people to wolves


Yeah, it's like a guarantee that anyone who calls me racist is a legit white nationalist.
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CruelBuffalo
07/12/18 9:35:43 PM
#165:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
I'm still waiting for an example of people here or "on the left" in general defending her. Still haven't gotten any legit examples despite the barrage of s***posters doing their typical bulls*** here.


It's more that there are certain usual suspects who won't condemn her, but if she was a white woman they'd be posting about the hate crime non stop. Can't really tag them without getting modded though.


Sounds like you're simply making up the reality you want to be true to justify your own biases, tbh


Yup. Typical proudcloud behavior.
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NinjaWarrior455
07/12/18 9:50:38 PM
#166:


This is a topic
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hockeybub89
07/12/18 9:53:48 PM
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SpiralDrift
07/12/18 11:38:17 PM
#168:


shockthemonkey posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
I just think that taking a brick to someone's face should carry enough of a penalty by itself that any punishments over hateful words should not be needed for there to be a satisfactory sentence.

It really sounds like youre trying to find reasons to justify them pretending this isnt a hate crime.

No. She's a racist and it would definitely class as a hate crime. I just disagree with the concept of "hate crimes" to begin with. But that's a whole other discussion.
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Fam_Fam
07/13/18 6:11:56 AM
#169:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
it was based on nationality, not race.


Um


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ClockworkHare
07/13/18 6:39:34 AM
#170:


But authorities said that through their investigation, "detectives have discovered that this is not a hate-related incident."

Uhhh yeah it was.

Even if race wasn't even factored, it would still be a hate-related crime.
Telling a Hispanic man to "go back to Mexico " and then brutally assaulting him are pretty hateful actions....
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Kineth
07/13/18 6:52:35 AM
#171:


ClockworkHare posted...
But authorities said that through their investigation, "detectives have discovered that this is not a hate-related incident."

Uhhh yeah it was.

Even if race wasn't even factored, it would still be a hate-related crime.
Telling a Hispanic man to "go back to Mexico " and then brutally assaulting him are pretty hateful actions....


It definitely does seem like a miscarriage of justice in that regard.
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MedzXVIII
07/14/18 11:50:35 PM
#172:


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do_ob_tpkillr
07/15/18 12:29:53 AM
#173:


As I thought, her reactions were triggered by an action from the old man, when he accidentally bumped into the woman's daughter/niece/whatever.

As long as this incident is triggered by additional factors (i.e. bump into another person) first, this incident technically can't be declared as a race-related incident. Besides, this woman is already being rightly charged for assault/battery/attempted murder and what not.
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Bloodychess
07/15/18 12:31:24 AM
#174:


UnfairRepresent posted...
joestarrr posted...
VectorChaos posted...
"She was yelling at him, 'Go back to your country,' or 'Go back to Mexico,'"


this is not a hate-related incident."


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Ammonitida
07/15/18 12:55:02 AM
#175:


ClockworkHare posted...
But authorities said that through their investigation, "detectives have discovered that this is not a hate-related incident."

Uhhh yeah it was.

Even if race wasn't even factored, it would still be a hate-related crime.
Telling a Hispanic man to "go back to Mexico " and then brutally assaulting him are pretty hateful actions....


The crime has to be purely motivated by racism to be classed as a hate-crime. In this case, the woman claimed that the man bumped into her daughter, sparking the assault. If she had attacked him without any claimed provocation, then yeah she would have been charged with a bias crime.
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SauI_Goodman
07/15/18 12:55:45 AM
#176:


I guess Mark Walhberg gets a pass too and isn't racist against Asians, either.
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Ammonitida
07/15/18 12:58:30 AM
#177:


SauI_Goodman posted...
I guess Mark Walhberg gets a pass too and isn't racist against Asians, either.


I thought he was charged with a hate crime over that?

Whatever the case, he lived with the guilt that he blinded his victim in one eye for years until he found out that this was false fairly recently.
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MedzXVIII
07/15/18 9:18:50 AM
#178:


do_ob_tpkillr posted...
As I thought, her reactions were triggered by an action from the old man, when he accidentally bumped into the woman's daughter/niece/whatever.

As long as this incident is triggered by additional factors (i.e. bump into another person) first, this incident technically can't be declared as a race-related incident. Besides, this woman is already being rightly charged for assault/battery/attempted murder and what not.

Would she have done the same if he was black?
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UnfairRepresent
07/15/18 9:55:06 AM
#180:


VectorChaos posted...
"She was yelling at him, 'Go back to your country,' or 'Go back to Mexico,'"


this is not a hate-related incident."


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darkjedilink
07/15/18 11:01:06 AM
#181:


do_ob_tpkillr posted...
As I thought, her reactions were triggered by an action from the old man, when he accidentally bumped into the woman's daughter/niece/whatever.

As long as this incident is triggered by additional factors (i.e. bump into another person) first, this incident technically can't be declared as a race-related incident. Besides, this woman is already being rightly charged for assault/battery/attempted murder and what not.

This isn't true at all.
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The_Ivory_Man
07/15/18 1:04:09 PM
#182:


Ammonitida posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
But authorities said that through their investigation, "detectives have discovered that this is not a hate-related incident."

Uhhh yeah it was.

Even if race wasn't even factored, it would still be a hate-related crime.
Telling a Hispanic man to "go back to Mexico " and then brutally assaulting him are pretty hateful actions....


The crime has to be purely motivated by racism to be classed as a hate-crime. In this case, the woman claimed that the man bumped into her daughter, sparking the assault. If she had attacked him without any claimed provocation, then yeah she would have been charged with a bias crime.


"Well sorry officer that black man called me a slur while I was in my KKK robes, so I violently beat him."

"Ah well since he provoked you with a slur that clearly wasn't hate speech."
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MedzXVIII
07/15/18 1:21:58 PM
#183:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
Ammonitida posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
But authorities said that through their investigation, "detectives have discovered that this is not a hate-related incident."

Uhhh yeah it was.

Even if race wasn't even factored, it would still be a hate-related crime.
Telling a Hispanic man to "go back to Mexico " and then brutally assaulting him are pretty hateful actions....


The crime has to be purely motivated by racism to be classed as a hate-crime. In this case, the woman claimed that the man bumped into her daughter, sparking the assault. If she had attacked him without any claimed provocation, then yeah she would have been charged with a bias crime.


"Well sorry officer that black man called me a slur while I was in my KKK robes, so I violently beat him."

"Ah well since he provoked you with a slur that clearly wasn't hate speech."

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Ammonitida
07/15/18 2:56:20 PM
#184:


The_Ivory_Man posted...
Ammonitida posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
But authorities said that through their investigation, "detectives have discovered that this is not a hate-related incident."

Uhhh yeah it was.

Even if race wasn't even factored, it would still be a hate-related crime.
Telling a Hispanic man to "go back to Mexico " and then brutally assaulting him are pretty hateful actions....


The crime has to be purely motivated by racism to be classed as a hate-crime. In this case, the woman claimed that the man bumped into her daughter, sparking the assault. If she had attacked him without any claimed provocation, then yeah she would have been charged with a bias crime.


"Well sorry officer that black man called me a slur while I was in my KKK robes, so I violently beat him."

"Ah well since he provoked you with a slur that clearly wasn't hate speech."


Contact your legislators and get the laws changed so that any use of a racial slur during the commission of a crime, no matter what initially provoked it, is enough to meet the bias crime threshold.

And no one is saying the woman isn't racist or that her words don't amount to hate speech. Just that it doesn't clear the bias crime threshold according to the law.
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