Board 8 > Blade Mafia 5 Topic 14: We have waited. The cows have come home.

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I...dont think that's true? Panth had the really weird posting style that a few people commented on, but it included a good amount of content generation.
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I did? I seem to remember being my usual self, a bit jokier than usual perhaps, for most of day 1 and then seeming to not be paying attention because I showed up near deadline having skimmed through the past ten pages or so because I wasn't home until then.
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You had a lot of walls, but I think that was only after day1.

To be honest looking back I dont know why your lynchtrain took off to begin with.

Anyway good morning everyone.
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also for pete's sake dont ping me
It made me think the game was already over somehow. (and considering we probably still have 2 scum to lynch, that could only have been bad news)

catching up

Shaduln posted...

In any case, I'm not sure why I'm continuing this conversation, you're convinced I'm scum (like you have been multiple times previously this game while being wrong) so this is just a waste of a whatever day of the week this is night.

I dont see why Shad needed to say this. At this point Corrik can either be scum, or town who knows you are scum because nobody has hammered you yet. It comes across like Shad knows Corrik is town and i trying to discredit him. (Not for Corrik, but for us)
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Corrik posted...

So it never occurred to you... as town... that we are both town and scum is slow playing it for maximum hilarity... in your... comedy options?

I highly doubt that, at this point.

I feel like Corrik has been calling death scum for awhile without really trying to finish that lynch, which concerns me about death for sure. Since at this point I'm operating on "corrik is scum".

I can think of a few reasons. Almost said them too. But Corrik should answer this first.
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No I'm talking myself out of continuing to respond to Corrik. Don't make it more than it is.
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Fair enough.

Just for curiosity's sake, what did the paralysis message say? In paraphrased words?
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Am I remembering someone else? I remember joke posts, but joke posts with the intent to get content. Or maybe I read too deep into them?
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Nothing else to add tbh, it said I was paralyzed and that I couldn't vote.
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You're talking about Panth?

Honestly I cant even say who fits that description now.

Leo maybe?
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You might be getting my day 2 behavior mixed up with the day 1 stuff that Corrik is referring to since that's when I almost got b8 special'd
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Maybe, I thought it was D1 because I paid more attention D1, but I'm playing by memory at this point.
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Only here until Vivi's next feeding which could be any time from now to maybe an hour, jsyk.
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Well then, I guess I'll also mention I was super excited because she had a poopy diaper.
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The joys of life.
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Being a dad is weird.
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So you paid attention in later days but didn't,'t post?
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I paid attention to the beginning of D2, sure.
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Shad was thinking Panthera and his Infinite Spaghetti Scanner! post, I think. Where the first letter of each paragraph spelled out Infinite Spaghetti Scanner!
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Looking back again at Corriks reaction to Chris' claim on Leo does read as a mostly confused one.

If he was scum, he'd probably know if Chris was lying or not, because Leo was a semi-psychic (whatever the semi part means)

But Corrik was way too all over the map.

I like it more than Ashe's nonreaction (and Shads, but he couldnt help that).
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Also we have plenty of hours left, but we absolutely cannot let this day just run out of time.
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Okay, looking back over the start of the game. (Apparently nobody else is here, and we don't have too many hours left. Oh wait, there's Death now that I'm almost done typing this)

-Corrik immediately calls out Shad being absent as strange. ColZach does too. (ColZach was town)
-God then votes for Corrik because of it. (God was town)
--Mzero then defends Corrik. (Mzero was scum)
--That's when Mzero then votes for Dowolf

At this point, Corrik is either scum trying to draw attention to Shad as a good mislynch. Or he's town wondering wth happened to Shad. Or it's possible he's scum just wondering wth happened to Shad.

--Han (scum) comes in and votes for Shad. He wonders if voting for him does anything.
-Corrik then asks for Votals. Wanting to see if anything happened.
--Leo then comes in and says that Shad was the n0 target and that it's suspicious that Corrik wasn't targeted instead

---Death then comes in and votes for Dowolf (jumping on with Mzero). Of course it was a joke vote for liking dogs better than cats.
---Death ALSO says that it was something Shad did to himself. Kind of a weird thought, and I think he's the only one who really thought it. Especially weird because it turned out to be true. He then says he likes Han.

-My player slot Eaed then ALSO mentions Shad. From my perspective at least, that's two townies bringing up Shad.

-Red, another town player suggests we lynch Shad upon returning.

Death then leaves to watch Luke Cage (It was day 1, so I'm not sure this says much about Death other than that he likes Luke Cage. I never could get into it myself)

Then Crescent-Moon announces Shad has ARRIVED IN THE GAME

--Han then greets shad.And... instantly unvotes him to vote for Panthera instead.

-Shad finally shows up, and says he thought that'd last longer.
-Shad says his role is that he arrives late to the game, and isn't sure if that's a d1 thing or an every day thing

--Leo (Scum) asks for flavor)
-Shad then claims White Jinjo. TOWN White Jinjo. (My role is just TOWN Jinjo)

-Corrik then claims if Shad reappears we should just lynch him
-Corrik then sees Shad came back, and votes for him
-Corrik hypothesizes that Shad can't come into the day until Voted
-Corrik thinks Shad's just scum making stuff up
-Zam/Dels says Corrik is overthinking it
-Shad then says it's a Null Tell AT BEST
-God then comes in and votes for Shad
-Shad then says it's 'unexpected'
-Corrik is confused by this
-Shad then says he thinks it's only day 1
-Corrik then says Death is probably scum.
-Corrik says that this claim is a lie
-After which Han votes for Corrik
-Corrik asks for a flavor paraphrase
-Han asks Corrik if he's scum
-Red then votes Corrik

We move on a bit...

-Death defends Shad's role. (But only as 'it exists')

I got clarification on that it meant I couldn't talk until I joined the game. I didn't think about the "maybe it's multiple days" until I posted at first, so I obviously couldn't get clarification then since, well, have you seen blade? And I reread my PM and noted it said late to game so I don't feel like I need clarification now. So why do you keep harping on this?

Shad not liking God harping on the role.
-Shad and God go at it a bit over what engaging means
-Scare goes after Shad for obvious reasons (JINJO)
-Corrik then subtly asks if Shad got TWO role PM's becuase he got two.

I think that's something rather weird for him to bring up as scum.
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I mean if you're scum... do you draw attention to how different your Role PM is? That has a lot of potential to backfire. If you're town, I could see how you'd want to address that.
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I tried to do a massive reread like you did, but I have done it so many times I have gone crosseyed
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That's the point at which Corrik claims, and mentions Tiny Toons. (Which my Role PM mentioned as well, as did Zyx. But that's meta and pretty meaningless)

And that's the end of the first topic. It's where we've got the most Shad (who was one of the most active people--obviously waiting until his wife gave birth, which I know can be nervewracking)

-Shad then says he expects Corrik's claim to be fake
-Han says voting Shad is 'lazy'
-Death again lightly defends Shad saying he reacted decently
-Leo and Han have a convo between each other about Corrik. "What's he like as Scum?" "Pro-town!"
-Corrik then says people can never read him (And he wonders why people are paranoid of him? But that's why we read what other people say.)
-Corrik then posts a Full Claim
-Corrik suggests Shad is a 'backwards as fuck Flavor Scanner" who gets the first person who says his name's flavor

Thinking about it...it seems a little unfair to jinjos if the town jinjo is the late one, who pretty much needs to claim day 1. Without a safe list, the Jinjos have no way of hiding themselves from the guy trying to kill them, and all get outed on the first day. If the late jinjo has a safe list, though, it'd make it a lot less destructive to town. I mean think about it...

-Scum Jinjo might not claim Jinjo after Late Jinjo appears in the game. Not wanting to bring it down to 1v1
-That means 3 town jinjos could claim on day 1 just to get it out of the way. (Seems to be three town jinjos, since I'm one, Zyx is one and one of Corrik/Shad is one). I guess there's a weird scenario where they're both scum, but again I don't see that scenario as true. And like Corrik said, he could probably get a death mislynch here if that were the case.) Or the weird scenario where there's only 1 scum left, but that seems unlikely.

Let's look at our power roles too, while we're at it:

Power
4. IGCD (Bodyguard)
5. Colzach (Vig Cop)
6. FD (Hider)
13. Zyxyz0 (???)
14. Suprak/5tarscream/Pxlated (Medical Examiner)
15. BlueCrystalTear (Jack with Strongman, Doc Save, and Dancer)
20. Corrik (Unexpected. Claimed)

Vanilla
1. Donker
3. Death (Claimed)
8. Panthera (Claimed)
9. Red
10. Shad (Claimed, and essentially)
11. Eaed/Ashethan (Claimed)
12. Alakazam/Dels
16. Dowolf
17. Chris

Scum
7. Leo (Semi-Psychic Paranoid Roleblocker Godfather)
18. MZero (Jack/Usurper?)
19. Han (Super Poisoner)

Independent
2. Scare

If Corrik is scum: (6 power roles, 8 vanillas)
If Shad is scum: (7 power roles, 7 vanillas)

Scum claimed:
Leo - Psychic
Han claimed Doctor
Mzero claimed Tracker
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Zyx was unexpected also, but we have no idea what he did. Other than that he targeted God night 1.
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Oh yeah as it turns out all Jinjos besides the Jinjo killer claimed anyway
It was a chain reaction really that started with Shad claiming.
If Shad was the only Jinjo on a scumteam, he probably wouldnt feel hesitant to claim Jinjo

Unless scum had Jinjos on the safelist or something.
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Honestly we dont have a lot of lasting protection either
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Well Jinjo Killer did claim day 1. He said he was a Jinjo too. Purple Jinjo, said he was Unexpected too. He ALSO said he had 2 role pm's.
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also that makes me come back to Colzach
Remembering what I felt earlier.
I cant really believe a scumcorrik wouldnt block Colzach (they had every chance to), when Colzach gave no indication that he would not randomly try to shoot Corrik.
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It's possible, but Andy also made Colzach's shot unblockable night 1. So if they DID roleblock him, it went through anyway.
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Roleblocks:

N1: ???
N2: Pxl (over the cop. Which could have been great if Andy hadn't gotten himself modkilled. Still miffed over that. Zach might have scanned Shad. Obviously they thought Zach was poisoned)
N3: Corrik
N4: Pxl
N5: Corrik
N6: Corrik
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Forgot about that.
But you do have a point about scumjinjo probably not wanting to claim after a townjinjo.
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So let's look at their roleblocks a little:

Night 1 Potential powers to bock:
5. Colzach (Vig Cop)
6. FD (Hider, strongly hinted)
13. Zyxyz0 (Unexpected)
15. BlueCrystalTear (hinted power)
20. Corrik (Unexpected)

That's pretty much what they had to go on night 1 I think. They could've picked up FD as Hider, so I left that on there. And Andy was hinting power. I think Zach's probably a good target for roleblock regardless of a shot. Especially since they most certainly poisoned him, and were leaving him alive for a day.

Night 2 goes a bit different. Here's what they have to go on:
5. Colzach (Vig Cop)
15. BlueCrystalTear (Hinted Power)
20. Corrik (Unexpected)

Yet they decide to go for Pxl. Chris seemed to think they scanned her, which is definitely possible. They once again ignore the cop, thinking he's gonna die. But if they DID scan her and thought she was some sort of Doc, why not kill her earlier? Why not kill her over Red?

Night 3 they have this:
5. Colzach (Vig Cop)
20. Corrik (Unexpected. Claimed)

Pxl still hadn't claimed yet, but they then decide it's safe NOT to Roleblock Colzach for a THIRD night in a row (or at very least second night in a row). They roleblock Corrik over Pxl. Which seems a little strange. Not like they could test what medical examiner did between the two nights. Nothing to really go on. Obviously, they didn't roleblock pxl again. If Corrik is scum, I could see them killing and roleblocking Colzach just to be sure some unclaimed protection wasn't out there. Bodyguard and one use doc was already dead. But that's pretty light for protection. Not to mention pretty light on power roles overall.

Night 4: Now they have all of town's claims. Corrik goes back to saying he's vanilla, though. At which point they go back to blocking Pxl (who's ability isn't particularly useful)

Night 5: They block Corrik again

Night 6: They block Corrik again. (killing pxl instead)
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If they did think there was some sort of protection, I guess blocking Zach and killing Pxl would've made more sense. Then again, they didn't kill Pxl on Night 2 over Red.
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A scumjack probably most certainly has a scanning role. And her rolename sounds more useful than it was.
Not sure why they didnt kill her then though. Maybe because she just replaced in?

For night3 I guess they were certain town was out of protection roles, with BG and a jackdoc dead.
I cant make sense of it all no, but I dont know what that says either.
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There were a lot of claims day1 too, and Leo/Han/Mzero werent among them.
It was statistically easier for them too hit power with a blind shot or block. Though I think its more likely they just feared red.
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Ashethan posted...

Roleblocks:

N1: ???
N2: Pxl (over the cop. Which could have been great if Andy hadn't gotten himself modkilled. Still miffed over that. Zach might have scanned Shad. Obviously they thought Zach was poisoned)
N3: Corrik
N4: Pxl
N5: Corrik
N6: Corrik

Colzach went to igcd according to pxlated o do believe.
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Corrik posted...

Colzach went to igcd according to pxlated o do believe.

Don't think Pxl examined Colzach unfortunately. Kind of wish she did, now. Over Red.

Night 1 - Pxl made no action
Night 2 - Pxl was roleblocked
Night 3 - Pxl examined Zyx
Night 4 - Pxl was roleblocked
Night 5 - Pxl examined Red
Night 6 - Pxl was killed
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I think that is wrong. She said igcd died to poison from her scan. I am almost positive of that.
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Oh right, she examined God not Red. My bad. But God targeted Zach, not the other way around.
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So she got IGCD night2 action?

Not that it matters, IGCD probably protected Colzach on both nights
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That sounds more correct.
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Dont see how knowing where Colzach went, would help us though.
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Probably? He had to have. He was poisoned. Unless there's an off chance that scum poisoned him night 1. And then decided to leave the Cop alive on night 2.
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htaeD posted...

Dont see how knowing where Colzach went, would help us though.

We'd know if he was roleblocked or not. He goes nowhere and Corrik is dead to rights. (Though why scum would risk that happening to fake a block for Corrik is odd now that I think about it.)
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I didn't even think about that but yeah that makes sense.
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Ashethan posted...

Probably? He had to have. He was poisoned. Unless there's an off chance that scum poisoned him night 1. And then decided to leave the Cop alive on night 2.

Uhhh..
Poisons arent instant. As far as I can remember.
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They poisoned Zach night 1 and thought he was gonna die night 2 and instead igcd took it.
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htaeD posted...

Poisons arent instant. As far as I can remember.

Yeah, they aren't.

So either the scum team:
A. Randomly poisoned God
or
B. Poisoned Zach, which God took as a bodyguard.

B is wayyyyy more likely.

I mean they couldn't poison anyone night 2 even if they wanted to. Han was deader than dead.
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