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_RETS_
07/16/18 9:27:32 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
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*facepalm* I never claimed that you said she was a trump supporter. She just is, you can tell because of what she did.

CVS fired him for sucking at his job, not because he was being shamed for <insert speculation>. Why did he have the right to ask her to leave? Obviously she did nothing wrong as he was fired for failing at his job. Are you going to believe a bunch a "waaaaahhh racism!" torch-wielding SJWs on social media over the literal company the man worked for who said his conduct was wrong?

You want to name-call me (flaming lol) a drone, but if you ask me, the SJWs are in your head, not mine. You're flailing now, friendo.

"THE MEDIA! THE MEDIA! BOOGEYMAN MEDIA!" - you.

What fuels the media? People talking shit about the media.

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet." Puppets, drones, same shit different day.

What do you mean by screening sjws btw?


Black people have been violent toward Hispanics and vice versa since before Trump
You have no idea her political affiliation.


Would she have told a Cuban woman to go back to Cuba? A Dominican man to go back to the Dominican Republic? A Puerto Rican teenager to go back to PR? (Which is an official US territory in case you and/or Trump and/or Trump's supporters didn't know)


Uh... probably because she said "go back to your country". You don't think any black people were racist to Mexicans before Trump? That's what you're rolling with?
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hockeybub89
07/16/18 9:28:02 PM
#302:


_RETS_ posted...
hockeybub89 posted...

He wouldn't have, because it would have never even been a story. And is it now the point in you making an idiot of yourself where you resort to the "call you what I actually am" rhetoric? I must have missed that on the itinerary.

I hate to break it to you, but people don't only get fired when the big bad SJWs who rule the world make it national news and force companies into compliance. I can assure you that CVS would have fired this guy regardless of what color anyone is. He acted outside of policy and professionalism.
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_RETS_
07/16/18 9:29:52 PM
#303:


hockeybub89 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
hockeybub89 posted...

He wouldn't have, because it would have never even been a story. And is it now the point in you making an idiot of yourself where you resort to the "call you what I actually am" rhetoric? I must have missed that on the itinerary.

I hate to break it to you, but people don't only get fired when the big bad SJWs who rule the world make it national news and force companies into compliance. I can assure you that CVS would have fired this guy regardless of what color anyone is. He acted outside of policy and professionalism.


Straw man. Never said that's the only instance in which people get fired. But it is why he got fired. If she was white or he was black, tjis never would have happened. But believe whatever you want.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/16/18 9:33:43 PM
#304:


Capn Circus posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
CVS fired him for sucking at his job, not because he was being shamed for <insert speculation>. Why did he have the right to ask her to leave? Obviously she did nothing wrong as he was fired for failing at his job. Are you going to believe a bunch a "waaaaahhh racism!" torch-wielding SJWs on social media over the literal company the man worked for who said his conduct was wrong?


So can you explain to me why media is mentioning races in the coupon scenario in their headlines but not races in the brick scenario (where one race told another to go back to Mexico)?


I haven't seen a media source that mentions the coupon scenario. I only know of it from CE. I've seen several articles about the brick incident and they all show pictures of the perpetrator and the victim. I don't know what else you want from me. :shrug emoji:
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/16/18 9:34:22 PM
#305:


_RETS_ posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
*facepalm* I never claimed that you said she was a trump supporter. She just is, you can tell because of what she did.

CVS fired him for sucking at his job, not because he was being shamed for <insert speculation>. Why did he have the right to ask her to leave? Obviously she did nothing wrong as he was fired for failing at his job. Are you going to believe a bunch a "waaaaahhh racism!" torch-wielding SJWs on social media over the literal company the man worked for who said his conduct was wrong?

You want to name-call me (flaming lol) a drone, but if you ask me, the SJWs are in your head, not mine. You're flailing now, friendo.

"THE MEDIA! THE MEDIA! BOOGEYMAN MEDIA!" - you.

What fuels the media? People talking shit about the media.

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet." Puppets, drones, same shit different day.

What do you mean by screening sjws btw?


Black people have been violent toward Hispanics and vice versa since before Trump
You have no idea her political affiliation.


Would she have told a Cuban woman to go back to Cuba? A Dominican man to go back to the Dominican Republic? A Puerto Rican teenager to go back to PR? (Which is an official US territory in case you and/or Trump and/or Trump's supporters didn't know)


Uh... probably because she said "go back to your country". You don't think any black people were racist to Mexicans before Trump? That's what you're rolling with?


Is Mexican a race?
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Capn Circus
07/16/18 9:36:35 PM
#306:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
*facepalm* I never claimed that you said she was a trump supporter. She just is, you can tell because of what she did.

CVS fired him for sucking at his job, not because he was being shamed for <insert speculation>. Why did he have the right to ask her to leave? Obviously she did nothing wrong as he was fired for failing at his job. Are you going to believe a bunch a "waaaaahhh racism!" torch-wielding SJWs on social media over the literal company the man worked for who said his conduct was wrong?

You want to name-call me (flaming lol) a drone, but if you ask me, the SJWs are in your head, not mine. You're flailing now, friendo.

"THE MEDIA! THE MEDIA! BOOGEYMAN MEDIA!" - you.

What fuels the media? People talking shit about the media.

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet." Puppets, drones, same shit different day.

What do you mean by screening sjws btw?


Black people have been violent toward Hispanics and vice versa since before Trump
You have no idea her political affiliation.


Would she have told a Cuban woman to go back to Cuba? A Dominican man to go back to the Dominican Republic? A Puerto Rican teenager to go back to PR? (Which is an official US territory in case you and/or Trump and/or Trump's supporters didn't know)


Uh... probably because she said "go back to your country". You don't think any black people were racist to Mexicans before Trump? That's what you're rolling with?


Is Mexican a race?


Would you think the coupon man was racist if he told the woman to go back to Africa? Would CE? Would the media?

I have a feeling the headline would change to, "White manager tells black customer to go back to Africa after denying coupon".
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/16/18 9:39:05 PM
#307:


Is Africa a country?
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_RETS_
07/16/18 9:42:23 PM
#308:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
*facepalm* I never claimed that you said she was a trump supporter. She just is, you can tell because of what she did.

CVS fired him for sucking at his job, not because he was being shamed for <insert speculation>. Why did he have the right to ask her to leave? Obviously she did nothing wrong as he was fired for failing at his job. Are you going to believe a bunch a "waaaaahhh racism!" torch-wielding SJWs on social media over the literal company the man worked for who said his conduct was wrong?

You want to name-call me (flaming lol) a drone, but if you ask me, the SJWs are in your head, not mine. You're flailing now, friendo.

"THE MEDIA! THE MEDIA! BOOGEYMAN MEDIA!" - you.

What fuels the media? People talking shit about the media.

"No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet." Puppets, drones, same shit different day.

What do you mean by screening sjws btw?


Black people have been violent toward Hispanics and vice versa since before Trump
You have no idea her political affiliation.


Would she have told a Cuban woman to go back to Cuba? A Dominican man to go back to the Dominican Republic? A Puerto Rican teenager to go back to PR? (Which is an official US territory in case you and/or Trump and/or Trump's supporters didn't know)


Uh... probably because she said "go back to your country". You don't think any black people were racist to Mexicans before Trump? That's what you're rolling with?


Is Mexican a race?


100% irrelevant. If a white lady/guy beat the Mexican while yelling him to go back to his country (and recruiting 4 other whites to join the beating) the racism narrative would take center stage and if you think otherwise you are pretending to be dumb.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/16/18 9:48:11 PM
#309:


Sounds like something trump supporters would do tbh
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nicklebro
07/16/18 9:48:39 PM
#310:


_RETS_ posted...
If she was white or he was black, tjis never would have happened.

Show me the evidence. If you can't you're a liar and a hypocrite.
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_RETS_
07/16/18 9:51:50 PM
#311:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Sounds like something trump supporters would do tbh


Yeah, a group of black Trump supporters beating a Mexican man. That's a likely scenario
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_RETS_
07/16/18 9:56:47 PM
#312:


nicklebro posted...
_RETS_ posted...
If she was white or he was black, tjis never would have happened.

Show me the evidence. If you can't you're a liar and a hypocrite.


You know that's the case. Like you 100% know it, you are just being a partisan dip shit. The simple fact that the black brick bitch isn't being lambasted as a racist by the media when way more evidence points to that being a racially motivated crime than this shows you where the media/culture's head is. No headlines from every news outlet saying "black woman gangs up on elderly Mexican man with black dudes and tries to kill him" but we sure do have "WHITE CVS manager blah blah blah". The media is trying to stir people into an outrage mob over shit like this and it is working. And you are swallowing it up because you and your type are very easily manipulated by bullshit narratives.

A black lady being inconvenienced isn't proof of racism. Sorry if that shatters your reality. Even if the dude is fully guilty of groundlessly kicking her out, you have nothing at all to suggest it is on the basis of her race. In fact, from what we know about him, we have more evidence to suggest he is not the racist you so desperately want and need him to be.
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Capn Circus
07/16/18 10:12:00 PM
#313:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Is Africa a country?


No. But why does that matter?

You're obviously denying the double standards in place, and it's pretty laughable.

If you're OK with the media mentioning the races in this circumstance, but not the other, that's okay--- just tell us why it's acceptable or appropriate in one but not the other.

Don't try to deny it's happening, it just makes you look silly.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/16/18 11:02:21 PM
#314:


Capn Circus posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Is Africa a country?


No. But why does that matter?

You're obviously denying the double standards in place, and it's pretty laughable.

If you're OK with the media mentioning the races in this circumstance, but not the other, that's okay--- just tell us why it's acceptable or appropriate in one but not the other.

Don't try to deny it's happening, it just makes you look silly.


Why does what matter?

If you're not even in quintuple standards, dont even talk to me.

Because stuff like formula 1 and The Grand Tour (formerly Top Gear) is neat as fuck... but NASCAR? Gimme a 18 pack and see how fast I pass out lol, otherwise, lame.

YOU look silly! >:/
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nicklebro
07/17/18 1:03:50 AM
#315:


_RETS_ posted...
nicklebro posted...
_RETS_ posted...
If she was white or he was black, tjis never would have happened.

Show me the evidence. If you can't you're a liar and a hypocrite.


You know that's the case. Like you 100% know it, you are just being a partisan dip shit. The simple fact that the black brick bitch isn't being lambasted as a racist by the media when way more evidence points to that being a racially motivated crime than this shows you where the media/culture's head is. No headlines from every news outlet saying "black woman gangs up on elderly Mexican man with black dudes and tries to kill him" but we sure do have "WHITE CVS manager blah blah blah". The media is trying to stir people into an outrage mob over shit like this and it is working. And you are swallowing it up because you and your type are very easily manipulated by bullshit narratives.

A black lady being inconvenienced isn't proof of racism. Sorry if that shatters your reality. Even if the dude is fully guilty of groundlessly kicking her out, you have nothing at all to suggest it is on the basis of her race. In fact, from what we know about him, we have more evidence to suggest he is not the racist you so desperately want and need him to be.

So what you're saying is you're a hypocrite. No I don't know that 100%. Don't you see how hypocritical you're being by making this assumption and then expecting me to just accept it anyways despite the fact that it isn't proven, but people assuming that racism was behind the CVS managers behavior are stupid and wrong because racism wasn't explicitly proved to be the driving factor behind his behavior?
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Terra-enforcer
07/17/18 1:14:29 AM
#316:


@Capn_Circus posted...
White man, black customer

"CVS apologizes after white manager calls police on black customer over coupon" - NBC

"CVS Fires 2 for Calling Police on Black Woman Over Coupon" - NY TIMES

Black woman, Hispanic victim.

"Woman charged with attempted murder in brick attack on 92-year-old man" - NBC

"Woman Arrested in Beating of Man, 92. Go Back to Mexico, She Reportedly Said." - NY TIMES

(the NY Times mention the woman's name in the article, but never her race)

Seeing too many dumb shitposts and people overly trumpeteering are why I stopped posting on CE, and I wasn't going to say anything, but this has to be intentionally daft. There's no other explanation.

I have no words if you legitimately see this as a fair comparison.
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Delirious_Beard
07/17/18 1:22:46 AM
#317:


capn circus is one of the more notorious racists/conservatrolls

there is literally no reason not to put him on ignore
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Monolith1676
07/17/18 1:29:46 AM
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I see cjsdowg abandoned ship when he got outted as a hypocrit.
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Capn Circus
07/17/18 1:49:14 AM
#319:


Terra-enforcer posted...
@Capn_Circus posted...
White man, black customer

"CVS apologizes after white manager calls police on black customer over coupon" - NBC

"CVS Fires 2 for Calling Police on Black Woman Over Coupon" - NY TIMES

Black woman, Hispanic victim.

"Woman charged with attempted murder in brick attack on 92-year-old man" - NBC

"Woman Arrested in Beating of Man, 92. Go Back to Mexico, She Reportedly Said." - NY TIMES

(the NY Times mention the woman's name in the article, but never her race)

Seeing too many dumb shitposts and people overly trumpeteering are why I stopped posting on CE, and I wasn't going to say anything, but this has to be intentionally daft. There's no other explanation.

I have no words if you legitimately see this as a fair comparison.


If my comparison was so terrible, it should be quite easy to give at least a simple explanation.

Why are races mentioned in the headlines of this coupon incident? There is certainly no evidence of explicit racism.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/17/18 1:58:03 AM
#320:


Capn Circus posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
CVS fired him for sucking at his job, not because he was being shamed for <insert speculation>. Why did he have the right to ask her to leave? Obviously she did nothing wrong as he was fired for failing at his job. Are you going to believe a bunch a "waaaaahhh racism!" torch-wielding SJWs on social media over the literal company the man worked for who said his conduct was wrong?


So can you explain to me why media is mentioning races in the coupon scenario in their headlines but not races in the brick scenario (where one race told another to go back to Mexico)?


The former is racism, the latter is xenophobia :shrug emoji:
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hockeybub89
07/17/18 2:06:25 AM
#321:


_RETS_ posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
hockeybub89 posted...

He wouldn't have, because it would have never even been a story. And is it now the point in you making an idiot of yourself where you resort to the "call you what I actually am" rhetoric? I must have missed that on the itinerary.

I hate to break it to you, but people don't only get fired when the big bad SJWs who rule the world make it national news and force companies into compliance. I can assure you that CVS would have fired this guy regardless of what color anyone is. He acted outside of policy and professionalism.


Straw man. Never said that's the only instance in which people get fired. But it is why he got fired. If she was white or he was black, tjis never would have happened. But believe whatever you want.

What would have never happened? Are you calling CVS racist? The media attention is a side effect. A complaint and a quick investigation and that dude would have been toast. So you argument here is either than the woman would have been cool with being treated wrongly if the manager was black or that CVS would have ignored the incident if it was not multiracial. You've clearly never worked a day in your life.
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Grischnak
07/17/18 2:28:42 AM
#322:


hockeybub89 posted...
What would have never happened? Are you calling CVS racist? The media attention is a side effect. A complaint and a quick investigation and that dude would have been toast. So you argument here is either than the woman would have been cool with being treated wrongly if the manager was black or that CVS would have ignored the incident if it was not multiracial. You've clearly never worked a day in your life.


So, removing race from the equation and taking the lady's statement at face value, you think he'd have been fired for the act of accusing a customer who was trying to give him a fake coupon of making it herself? Or for the act of calling the cops on a customer that refused to leave?
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ModLogic
07/17/18 3:17:22 AM
#323:


Capn Circus posted...
White man, black customer

"CVS apologizes after white manager calls police on black customer over coupon" - NBC

"CVS Fires 2 for Calling Police on Black Woman Over Coupon" - NY TIMES

Black woman, Hispanic victim.

"Woman charged with attempted murder in brick attack on 92-year-old man" - NBC

"Woman Arrested in Beating of Man, 92. Go Back to Mexico, She Reportedly Said." - NY TIMES

(the NY Times mention the woman's name in the article, but never her race)

hmm hey @cjsdowg explain
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OmegaPillow
07/17/18 3:24:56 AM
#324:


You're all racist lets be real
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_RETS_
07/17/18 6:07:58 AM
#325:


hockeybub89 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
hockeybub89 posted...

He wouldn't have, because it would have never even been a story. And is it now the point in you making an idiot of yourself where you resort to the "call you what I actually am" rhetoric? I must have missed that on the itinerary.

I hate to break it to you, but people don't only get fired when the big bad SJWs who rule the world make it national news and force companies into compliance. I can assure you that CVS would have fired this guy regardless of what color anyone is. He acted outside of policy and professionalism.


Straw man. Never said that's the only instance in which people get fired. But it is why he got fired. If she was white or he was black, tjis never would have happened. But believe whatever you want.

What would have never happened? Are you calling CVS racist? The media attention is a side effect. A complaint and a quick investigation and that dude would have been toast. So you argument here is either than the woman would have been cool with being treated wrongly if the manager was black or that CVS would have ignored the incident if it was not multiracial. You've clearly never worked a day in your life.


Ha! That's cute. I start working before you wake up and am at work when you go home for the day, and it's been like that since I was 17. Construction, retail, collegiate strength and conditioning, sales, management, now a cumulative mix of the latter three. Odd choice of ad hominem.

Yes, I believe that CVS immediately sided with the outrage to avoid issues. And I don't blame them. Calling the cops on someone who refused to leave your store after following staff around isn't being a bad employee. If it wasn't for the racism hot button this wouldn't be a story and CVS wouldn't have given a shit.

But let's be clear, even if the guy deserved to be fired, it is very irresponsible for the media to paint him as a racist, without evidence, especially with the weight that allegation carries these days. That is my main issue. That he is being smeared by people solely because of his and her skin color based on absolutely nothing else. Some people can be bad employees without being racists.

The media/social outrage about it is my problem. If it is warranted, like the hicks bombing the mosque in Minnesota, by all means sully their name. But no one has any evidence of this guys motive, and his campaign platform pretty overtly suggests the opposite of what's being said of him to be true.

CVS can do whatever they want. I don't have to agree with it. If they fear he will lose them money, bad employee or not, they've got every right to clip him and operate as a business first. But the social/media angle is a very serious issue that is becoming more and more of a problem.
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