Current Events > Penalty or not a penalty

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The answer was clear, I don't understand why people are questioning it.
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World cup final? Penalty.
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I support you shutting the fuck up TC
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Not a penalty. No way to say without a shadow of a doubt that he brought the hand in front of the ball intentionally. Simply saying "It kinda looks like in slow motion that he may have done it on purpose" is not good enough to categorically call a penalty. He was too close, the movement was not certain, the ref was very clearly unsure. Ridiculous to call a match on that.
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pinky0926 posted...

Not a penalty. No way to say without a shadow of a doubt that he brought the hand in front of the ball intentionally. Simply saying "It kinda looks like in slow motion that he may have done it on purpose" is not good enough to categorically call a penalty. He was too close, the movement was not certain, the ref was very clearly unsure. Ridiculous to call a match on that.

It definitely looks worse as you slow it down and it may of been unintentional but it still stopped play

You shouldn't be jumping in your box with your hands up anyway and he was completely off target for a header or to chest it down.
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keep it in the general
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MabusIncarnate posted...

I support you shutting the fuck up TC

I support sterility experiments to prevent disasters.
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im not 13 posted...

It definitely looks worse as you slow it down and it may of been unintentional but it still stopped play

You shouldn't be jumping in your box with your hands up anyway and he was completely off target for a header or to chest it down.

For me the answer here is that there's no definitive answer and too many maybes and whta ifs, and when there's no definitive answer you should not be awarding a penalty, which is almost a sure way to decide the entire match.

Kind of like the "reasonable doubt" clause in law. Too many questions to call a penalty. The ref had to go back like 4 times to review the footage, he wasn't sure either.

That was two calls in the game that went against Croatia that probably shouldn't have, with the final score being 4-2. Things should have/could have been very different.
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pinky0926 posted...

Not a penalty. No way to say without a shadow of a doubt that he brought the hand in front of the ball intentionally. Simply saying "It kinda looks like in slow motion that he may have done it on purpose" is not good enough to categorically call a penalty. He was too close, the movement was not certain, the ref was very clearly unsure. Ridiculous to call a match on that.

It doesn't matter if it was intentional or not. The only difference it being intentional would make is a yellow or red card for the player in addition to a penalty.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

It doesn't matter if it was intentional or not. The only difference it being intentional would make is a yellow or red card for the player in addition to a penalty.

That's not what the rules state.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/123838-fifa-soccer-rules-handball/

Cautionable Offense
A handball should result in a yellow card caution if a player handles the ball for the purpose of deliberately preventing an opponent from getting possession of the ball. The resulting restart to play should be a direct free kick from the spot at which the infringement was committed for the non-offending side. If this occurs inside the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded.

Sending Off Offense
A handball becomes a sending off offense when a player is judged to have handled the ball to prevent a direct scoring opportunity such as a shot on an empty goal, or to have prevented a move that might have resulted in a direct scoring opportunity such as a breakaway. The infringing player should be given a straight red card and a direct free kick taken from the spot of the infringement. If this occurs inside the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded.

Not Awardable
A handball should not be awarded if a player is ruled to have handled the ball accidentally. This refers to a player either attempting to protect himself from injury, for example by placing the hands in front of the face and then being hit by the ball, or a player being hit on the arm by the ball without moving towards the ball and without being able to move out of the way. An example might be a snap shot hitting the arm of a defender at point-blank range. However, if a players arm is in an unnatural position, for example outstretched or above their head, then a foul should be awarded whether accidental or not.

Can you say categorically that it was deliberate, or that his hand was outstretched or above his head in an unnatural position? I don't think you can. The pundits I heard talk about this all agree he was too close for it to be deliberate.
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