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Bio1590 07/23/18 9:39:02 PM #1:	https://qz.com/1334389/in-a-blow-to-states-rights-trump-proposes-to-yank-californias-electric-car-and-air-pollution-regulatory-authority/ The Trump administration is expected to release a plan this week that halts tightening fuel efficiency standards and revokes Californias unique ability to impose stricter air pollution controls. The move aims to undo some of the top tools in the US for combating climate change promoted by former president, Barack Obama. Bloomberg reported July 23 that the federal government is planning to freeze vehicle-emissions standards at its 2020 targets through 2026. That would cap fuel economy requirements at 35-miles-per gallon (mpg) rather than 50 mpg for all vehicles in 2025, as laid out during Obamas presidency. The White House will also seek to revoke Californias special waiver from the US Environmental Protection Agency that allows the state to set stricter air-pollution rules than those imposed nationwide under the 1970 Clean Air Act. Since then, California has been able to operate its own, stricter regulatory scheme to dramatically cut pollution levels in cities such as Los Angeles. (Many of the most smog-ridden cities in the US are in California.) California also led the nation by requiring automakers to cut greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles with 2004 regulations (pdf) to slow global warming. The new rules mean the state, which accounted for 2 million in new car sales last year, would lose its role as the trendsetter for reducing emissions nationwide. (Even China modeled its own program to boost zero-emission vehicles on Californias). The changes would likely benefit car companies that will no longer be forced to build more efficient vehicles for Californian standards, but cost buyers dearly. The energy consultancy Rhodium Group estimated drivers will pay $193 billion extra for gas through 2035, while contributing volumes of greenhouse gasses equivalent to opening 28 new coal plants, The Atlantic reported. Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:905609243] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>https://qz.com/1334389/in-a-blow-to-states-rights-trump-proposes-to-yank-californias-electric-car-and-air-pollution-regulatory-authority/ <quote>The Trump administration is expected to release a plan this week that halts tightening fuel efficiency standards and revokes Californias unique ability to impose stricter air pollution controls. The move aims to undo some of the top tools in the US for combating climate change promoted by former president, Barack Obama. Bloomberg reported July 23 that the federal government is planning to freeze vehicle-emissions standards at its 2020 targets through 2026. That would cap fuel economy requirements at 35-miles-per gallon (mpg) rather than 50 mpg for all vehicles in 2025, as laid out during Obamas presidency. The White House will also seek to revoke Californias special waiver from the US Environmental Protection Agency that allows the state to set stricter air-pollution rules than those imposed nationwide under the 1970 Clean Air Act. Since then, California has been able to operate its own, stricter regulatory scheme to dramatically cut pollution levels in cities such as Los Angeles. (Many of the most smog-ridden cities in the US are in California.) California also led the nation by requiring automakers to cut greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles with 2004 regulations (pdf) to slow global warming. The new rules mean the state, which accounted for 2 million in new car sales last year, would lose its role as the trendsetter for reducing emissions nationwide. (Even China modeled its own program to boost zero-emission vehicles on Californias). The changes would likely benefit car companies that will no longer be forced to build more efficient vehicles for Californian standards, but cost buyers dearly. The energy consultancy Rhodium Group estimated drivers will pay $193 billion extra for gas through 2035, while contributing volumes of greenhouse gasses equivalent to opening 28 new coal plants, The Atlantic reported.</quote> Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uthoria205 07/23/18 9:42:36 PM #2:	Bio1590 posted... https://qz.com/1334389/in-a-blow-to-states-rights-trump-proposes-to-yank-californias-electric-car-and-air-pollution-regulatory-authority/ The Trump administration is expected to release a plan this week that halts tightening fuel efficiency standards and revokes Californias unique ability to impose stricter air pollution controls. The move aims to undo some of the top tools in the US for combating climate change promoted by former president, Barack Obama. Bloomberg reported July 23 that the federal government is planning to freeze vehicle-emissions standards at its 2020 targets through 2026. That would cap fuel economy requirements at 35-miles-per gallon (mpg) rather than 50 mpg for all vehicles in 2025, as laid out during Obamas presidency. The White House will also seek to revoke Californias special waiver from the US Environmental Protection Agency that allows the state to set stricter air-pollution rules than those imposed nationwide under the 1970 Clean Air Act. Since then, California has been able to operate its own, stricter regulatory scheme to dramatically cut pollution levels in cities such as Los Angeles. (Many of the most smog-ridden cities in the US are in California.) California also led the nation by requiring automakers to cut greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles with 2004 regulations (pdf) to slow global warming. The new rules mean the state, which accounted for 2 million in new car sales last year, would lose its role as the trendsetter for reducing emissions nationwide. (Even China modeled its own program to boost zero-emission vehicles on Californias). The changes would likely benefit car companies that will no longer be forced to build more efficient vehicles for Californian standards, but cost buyers dearly. The energy consultancy Rhodium Group estimated drivers will pay $193 billion extra for gas through 2035, while contributing volumes of greenhouse gasses equivalent to opening 28 new coal plants, The Atlantic reported. Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol. Which means nothing if he continues with his trade war nonsense. --- Acta Non Verba <cite>uthoria205 posted [p:905609399] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>https://qz.com/1334389/in-a-blow-to-states-rights-trump-proposes-to-yank-californias-electric-car-and-air-pollution-regulatory-authority/ <quote>The Trump administration is expected to release a plan this week that halts tightening fuel efficiency standards and revokes Californias unique ability to impose stricter air pollution controls. The move aims to undo some of the top tools in the US for combating climate change promoted by former president, Barack Obama. Bloomberg reported July 23 that the federal government is planning to freeze vehicle-emissions standards at its 2020 targets through 2026. That would cap fuel economy requirements at 35-miles-per gallon (mpg) rather than 50 mpg for all vehicles in 2025, as laid out during Obamas presidency. The White House will also seek to revoke Californias special waiver from the US Environmental Protection Agency that allows the state to set stricter air-pollution rules than those imposed nationwide under the 1970 Clean Air Act. Since then, California has been able to operate its own, stricter regulatory scheme to dramatically cut pollution levels in cities such as Los Angeles. (Many of the most smog-ridden cities in the US are in California.) California also led the nation by requiring automakers to cut greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles with 2004 regulations (pdf) to slow global warming. The new rules mean the state, which accounted for 2 million in new car sales last year, would lose its role as the trendsetter for reducing emissions nationwide. (Even China modeled its own program to boost zero-emission vehicles on Californias). The changes would likely benefit car companies that will no longer be forced to build more efficient vehicles for Californian standards, but cost buyers dearly. The energy consultancy Rhodium Group estimated drivers will pay $193 billion extra for gas through 2035, while contributing volumes of greenhouse gasses equivalent to opening 28 new coal plants, The Atlantic reported.</quote> Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol.</quote> Which means nothing if he continues with his trade war nonsense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 07/23/18 9:43:08 PM #3:	states rights! --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:905609430] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>states rights!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 07/23/18 9:44:06 PM #4:	Phantom_Nook posted... states rights! States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:905609488] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote>states rights!</quote> States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/23/18 9:44:09 PM #5:	Clean air and more efficient cars, who needs 'em? --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:905609493] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>Clean air and more efficient cars, who needs 'em?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 07/23/18 9:46:01 PM #6:	Bio1590 posted... Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol. It doesn't even do that. The American car industry crash of the 00s is largely attributable to lax George W. Bush era emission standards that put fuel efficiency way behind foreign car manufacturers. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:905609577] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol.</quote> It doesn't even do that. The American car industry crash of the 00s is largely attributable to lax George W. Bush era emission standards that put fuel efficiency way behind foreign car manufacturers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/23/18 9:46:02 PM #7:	I will never understand why Republicans despise the environment so much. I know the answer is money, but I still don't get it. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:905609579] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>I will never understand why Republicans despise the environment so much. I know the answer is money, but I still don't get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 07/23/18 9:46:33 PM #8:	hey FUCK you for caring about the environment --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:905609602] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>hey FUCK you for caring about the environment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 9:46:36 PM #9:	I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905609608] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 07/23/18 9:47:17 PM #10:	Imagine buying American cars anyways --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (5-6): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:905609647] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>Imagine buying American cars anyways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorningRose 07/23/18 9:49:12 PM #11:	Bio1590 posted... Phantom_Nook posted... states rights! States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities. --- Night falls upon the forest that weeps https://imgur.com/WCtOjxy https://imgur.com/WT6Eugc <cite>MorningRose posted [p:905609744] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote>states rights!</quote> States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/23/18 9:51:25 PM #12:	MorningRose posted... Bio1590 posted... Phantom_Nook posted... states rights! States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities. --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:905609853] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>MorningRose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote>states rights!</quote> States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 07/23/18 9:52:11 PM #13:	fuck this guy --- Dallas Cowboys : 6 - 6 Dallas Mavs : Dirk Nowitzki: 30, 527 points (6th all time) 892 from Wilt <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:905609901] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>fuck this guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aye 07/23/18 9:52:54 PM #14:	darkjedilink posted... I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole. Wow, is DJL actually going against his emperor on this? <cite>Aye posted [p:905609947] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole.</quote> Wow, is DJL actually going against his emperor on this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/23/18 9:53:21 PM #15:	darkjedilink posted... I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole. We all know the environment respects state boundaries. Kentucky air doesn't mix with Ohio air. Pennsylvania water avoids New York water. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:905609969] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole.</quote> We all know the environment respects state boundaries. Kentucky air doesn't mix with Ohio air. Pennsylvania water avoids New York water.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 07/23/18 9:53:37 PM #16:	darkjedilink posted... I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole. This would only work if states were boxes unto themselves and nothing done in one state impacted another state. Federal regulations are necessary. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:905609984] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole.</quote> This would only work if states were boxes unto themselves and nothing done in one state impacted another state. Federal regulations are necessary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 07/23/18 9:54:11 PM #17:	Aye posted... darkjedilink posted... I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole. Wow, is DJL actually going against his emperor on this? No he's actually going full "lol regulations" --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:905610013] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aye posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole.</quote> Wow, is DJL actually going against his emperor on this?</quote> No he's actually going full "lol regulations"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 07/23/18 9:54:16 PM #18:	Aye posted... darkjedilink posted... I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole. Wow, is DJL actually going against his emperor on this? His ass is probably sore. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:905610017] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aye posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole.</quote> Wow, is DJL actually going against his emperor on this?</quote> His ass is probably sore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/23/18 9:54:48 PM #19:	hockeybub89 posted... darkjedilink posted... I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole. We all know the environment respects state boundaries. Kentucky air doesn't mix with Ohio air. Pennsylvania water avoids New York water. Where you think they are gonna want to move when they destroy those republican states they live in with polluted everything no thx --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:905610056] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole.</quote> We all know the environment respects state boundaries. Kentucky air doesn't mix with Ohio air. Pennsylvania water avoids New York water.</quote> Where you think they are gonna want to move when they destroy those republican states they live in with polluted everything no thx</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 9:54:59 PM #20:	Aye posted... darkjedilink posted... I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole. Wow, is DJL actually going against his emperor on this? Gary Johnson isn't President, and I've disagreed with Trump on numerous things, such as tariffs and threatening NATO. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905610067] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aye posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I do have a problem with it - emissions standards literally should be a states rights issue. Which is why I have a problem with the EPA as a whole.</quote> Wow, is DJL actually going against his emperor on this?</quote> Gary Johnson isn't President, and I've disagreed with Trump on numerous things, such as tariffs and threatening NATO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 07/23/18 9:58:27 PM #21:	CADE FOSTER posted... MorningRose posted... Bio1590 posted... Phantom_Nook posted... states rights! States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities. Those are some nice civil rights ya got there. Be a shame if... Something happened to them Lol amirite guys --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:905610246] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MorningRose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote>states rights!</quote> States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities.</quote></quote></quote> Those are some nice civil rights ya got there. Be a shame if... Something happened to them Lol amirite guys</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSextMachine 07/23/18 9:59:02 PM #22:	Bio1590 posted... Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol. So like Obama's expensive bailout of the auto companies. --- If you are reading this chances are I am pooping. <cite>TheSextMachine posted [p:905610277] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol.</quote> So like Obama's expensive bailout of the auto companies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/23/18 9:59:57 PM #23:	TheSextMachine posted... Bio1590 posted... Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol. So like Obama's expensive bailout of the auto companies. should have let them all fail including the banks that would of showed them --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:905610313] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheSextMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol.</quote> So like Obama's expensive bailout of the auto companies.</quote> should have let them all fail including the banks that would of showed them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 07/23/18 10:00:46 PM #24:	Emissions =/= fuel efficiency. If anything, this could provide BETTER fuel efficiency, but at the cost of more emissions. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:905610353] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>Emissions =/= fuel efficiency. If anything, this could provide BETTER fuel efficiency, but at the cost of more emissions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 07/23/18 10:01:12 PM #25:	CADE FOSTER posted... TheSextMachine posted... Bio1590 posted... Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol. So like Obama's expensive bailout of the auto companies. should have let them all fail including the banks that would of showed them Some of the car manufacturers paid back what they were given. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:905610379] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheSextMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol.</quote> So like Obama's expensive bailout of the auto companies.</quote> should have let them all fail including the banks that would of showed them</quote> Some of the car manufacturers paid back what they were given.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 07/23/18 10:01:33 PM #26:	If the Democrat party would've put up a competent candidate instead of literal Hillary Clinton, the Orangutan wouldn't have been elected and this travesty wouldn't be upon us. Fuck. <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:905610396] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>If the Democrat party would've put up a competent candidate instead of literal Hillary Clinton, the Orangutan wouldn't have been elected and this travesty wouldn't be upon us. Fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/23/18 10:01:39 PM #27:	Bullshit they want people to buy more fuel not less --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:905610401] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>Bullshit they want people to buy more fuel not less</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 10:02:19 PM #28:	MaverickXeo posted... Emissions =/= fuel efficiency. If anything, this could provide BETTER fuel efficiency, but at the cost of more emissions. This is true. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905610435] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote>Emissions =/= fuel efficiency. If anything, this could provide BETTER fuel efficiency, but at the cost of more emissions.</quote> This is true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/23/18 10:03:02 PM #29:	silentwing26x posted... If the Democrat party would've put up a competent candidate instead of literal Hillary Clinton, the Orangutan wouldn't have been elected and this travesty wouldn't be upon us. Fuck. Well... yeah --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:905610477] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote>If the Democrat party would've put up a competent candidate instead of literal Hillary Clinton, the Orangutan wouldn't have been elected and this travesty wouldn't be upon us. Fuck.</quote> Well... yeah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/23/18 10:04:57 PM #30:	Should have let Bernie run Russia wouldnt have interfered they hated Hillary --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:905610581] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>Should have let Bernie run Russia wouldnt have interfered they hated Hillary</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 07/23/18 10:07:39 PM #31:	glitteringfairy posted... CADE FOSTER posted... MorningRose posted... Bio1590 posted... Phantom_Nook posted... states rights! States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities. Those are some nice civil rights ya got there. Be a shame if... Something happened to them Lol amirite guys shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for a civil war so you could kill liberals and minorities --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:905610744] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MorningRose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote>states rights!</quote> States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities.</quote></quote></quote> Those are some nice civil rights ya got there. Be a shame if... Something happened to them Lol amirite guys</quote> shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for a civil war so you could kill liberals and minorities</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 07/23/18 10:07:43 PM #32:	MaverickXeo posted... Emissions =/= fuel efficiency. If anything, this could provide BETTER fuel efficiency, but at the cost of more emissions. They're killing the long-term fuel efficiency requirement and removing California's ability to set its own emission standards. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:905610749] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote>Emissions =/= fuel efficiency. If anything, this could provide BETTER fuel efficiency, but at the cost of more emissions.</quote> They're killing the long-term fuel efficiency requirement and removing California's ability to set its own emission standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/23/18 10:09:08 PM #33:	The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905610812] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/23/18 10:12:11 PM #34:	States rights only when dems are in power --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:905610961] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>States rights only when dems are in power</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 07/23/18 10:13:53 PM #35:	metralo posted... glitteringfairy posted... CADE FOSTER posted... MorningRose posted... Bio1590 posted... Phantom_Nook posted... states rights! States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities. Those are some nice civil rights ya got there. Be a shame if... Something happened to them Lol amirite guys shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for a civil war so you could kill liberals and minorities Woah there buddy that is crazy talk --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:905611058] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MorningRose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote>states rights!</quote> States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities.</quote></quote></quote> Those are some nice civil rights ya got there. Be a shame if... Something happened to them Lol amirite guys</quote> shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for a civil war so you could kill liberals and minorities</quote> Woah there buddy that is crazy talk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 10:14:27 PM #36:	FLUFFYGERM posted... The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars. Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905611088] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars.</quote> Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 07/23/18 10:14:39 PM #37:	FLUFFYGERM posted... The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars. No way in hell, not with big oil in the government --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:905611103] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars.</quote> No way in hell, not with big oil in the government</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/23/18 10:16:07 PM #38:	darkjedilink posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars. Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen. lmao are you trolling or just clueless? https://electrek.co/2018/03/07/gm-increasing-chevy-bolt-ev-production/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mercedes-eq-s-electric-sedan-2020-report/ https://electrek.co/2018/01/29/mercedes-benz-electric-vehicle-production-global-battery-network/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/audi-plans-10-electric-cars-by-2025-most-on-a-modular-platform/ https://electrek.co/2018/03/21/bmw-series-new-all-electric-vehicle-production-ix3-inext/ --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905611183] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars.</quote> Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen.</quote> lmao are you trolling or just clueless? https://electrek.co/2018/03/07/gm-increasing-chevy-bolt-ev-production/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mercedes-eq-s-electric-sedan-2020-report/ https://electrek.co/2018/01/29/mercedes-benz-electric-vehicle-production-global-battery-network/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/audi-plans-10-electric-cars-by-2025-most-on-a-modular-platform/ https://electrek.co/2018/03/21/bmw-series-new-all-electric-vehicle-production-ix3-inext/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/23/18 10:16:33 PM #39:	tremain07 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars. No way in hell, not with big oil in the government The market has already decided, electric vehicles are the future and there's really nothing that can be done to stop that now. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905611202] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars.</quote> No way in hell, not with big oil in the government</quote> The market has already decided, electric vehicles are the future and there's really nothing that can be done to stop that now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/23/18 10:18:20 PM #40:	Screw state rights. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:905611287] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>Screw state rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/23/18 10:24:52 PM #41:	CADE FOSTER posted... TheSextMachine posted... Bio1590 posted... Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol. So like Obama's expensive bailout of the auto companies. should have let them all fail including the banks that would of showed them My mom went from being laid off five months out of the year to working fourth to fifty hour weeks and having to occasionally work Holidays thanks to that bail out and it never slowed down even now. It worked big time. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:905611657] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheSextMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Something that benefits no one but car manufacturers lol.</quote> So like Obama's expensive bailout of the auto companies.</quote> should have let them all fail including the banks that would of showed them</quote> My mom went from being laid off five months out of the year to working fourth to fifty hour weeks and having to occasionally work Holidays thanks to that bail out and it never slowed down even now. It worked big time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/23/18 10:25:36 PM #42:	FLUFFYGERM posted... darkjedilink posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars. Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen. lmao are you trolling or just clueless? https://electrek.co/2018/03/07/gm-increasing-chevy-bolt-ev-production/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mercedes-eq-s-electric-sedan-2020-report/ https://electrek.co/2018/01/29/mercedes-benz-electric-vehicle-production-global-battery-network/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/audi-plans-10-electric-cars-by-2025-most-on-a-modular-platform/ https://electrek.co/2018/03/21/bmw-series-new-all-electric-vehicle-production-ix3-inext/ @darkjedilink where did you go brother? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905611694] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars.</quote> Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen.</quote> lmao are you trolling or just clueless? https://electrek.co/2018/03/07/gm-increasing-chevy-bolt-ev-production/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mercedes-eq-s-electric-sedan-2020-report/ https://electrek.co/2018/01/29/mercedes-benz-electric-vehicle-production-global-battery-network/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/audi-plans-10-electric-cars-by-2025-most-on-a-modular-platform/ https://electrek.co/2018/03/21/bmw-series-new-all-electric-vehicle-production-ix3-inext/</quote> @darkjedilink where did you go brother?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 07/23/18 10:30:50 PM #43:	Electric cars are definitely the future Once someone makes an electric car that's long range and costs $20k or so, it's over for gas cars. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:905611975] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>Electric cars are definitely the future Once someone makes an electric car that's long range and costs $20k or so, it's over for gas cars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/23/18 10:50:44 PM #44:	FLUFFYGERM posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... darkjedilink posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars. Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen. lmao are you trolling or just clueless? https://electrek.co/2018/03/07/gm-increasing-chevy-bolt-ev-production/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mercedes-eq-s-electric-sedan-2020-report/ https://electrek.co/2018/01/29/mercedes-benz-electric-vehicle-production-global-battery-network/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/audi-plans-10-electric-cars-by-2025-most-on-a-modular-platform/ https://electrek.co/2018/03/21/bmw-series-new-all-electric-vehicle-production-ix3-inext/ @darkjedilink where did you go brother? @Tyranthraxus where do you think darkjedilink went? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905613037] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars.</quote> Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen.</quote> lmao are you trolling or just clueless? https://electrek.co/2018/03/07/gm-increasing-chevy-bolt-ev-production/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mercedes-eq-s-electric-sedan-2020-report/ https://electrek.co/2018/01/29/mercedes-benz-electric-vehicle-production-global-battery-network/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/audi-plans-10-electric-cars-by-2025-most-on-a-modular-platform/ https://electrek.co/2018/03/21/bmw-series-new-all-electric-vehicle-production-ix3-inext/</quote> @darkjedilink where did you go brother?</quote> @Tyranthraxus where do you think darkjedilink went?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 10:52:33 PM #45:	FLUFFYGERM posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... darkjedilink posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars. Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen. lmao are you trolling or just clueless? https://electrek.co/2018/03/07/gm-increasing-chevy-bolt-ev-production/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mercedes-eq-s-electric-sedan-2020-report/ https://electrek.co/2018/01/29/mercedes-benz-electric-vehicle-production-global-battery-network/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/audi-plans-10-electric-cars-by-2025-most-on-a-modular-platform/ https://electrek.co/2018/03/21/bmw-series-new-all-electric-vehicle-production-ix3-inext/ @darkjedilink where did you go brother? Oh, I'm sorry - I was waiting for you to show a single mainstream EV. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905613134] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The silver lining is that gas cars aren't long for this world. I give it another 3 years before we see a mass migration to electric vehicles whenever people buy new cars.</quote> Someone would have to actually be manufacturing electric cars in three years for that to happen.</quote> lmao are you trolling or just clueless? https://electrek.co/2018/03/07/gm-increasing-chevy-bolt-ev-production/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/mercedes-eq-s-electric-sedan-2020-report/ https://electrek.co/2018/01/29/mercedes-benz-electric-vehicle-production-global-battery-network/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/audi-plans-10-electric-cars-by-2025-most-on-a-modular-platform/ https://electrek.co/2018/03/21/bmw-series-new-all-electric-vehicle-production-ix3-inext/</quote> @darkjedilink where did you go brother?</quote> Oh, I'm sorry - I was waiting for you to show a single mainstream EV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 10:53:28 PM #46:	Damn_Underscore posted... Electric cars are definitely the future Once someone makes an electric car that's long range and costs $20k or so, it's over for gas cars. That one-two punch is literally what it would take, though, and it just isn't going to happen any time soon. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905613188] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Electric cars are definitely the future Once someone makes an electric car that's long range and costs $20k or so, it's over for gas cars.</quote> That one-two punch is literally what it would take, though, and it just isn't going to happen any time soon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/23/18 10:55:46 PM #47:	you can buy a Chevy Bolt with 238 miles of range for under $30,000 with the tax incentives + discount from the dealer. in a couple more years the prices will have continued to drop while the range just goes up --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905613315] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>you can buy a Chevy Bolt with 238 miles of range for under $30,000 with the tax incentives + discount from the dealer. in a couple more years the prices will have continued to drop while the range just goes up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 07/23/18 10:56:21 PM #48:	Bio1590 posted... Phantom_Nook posted... states rights! States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities. --- https://i.imgtc.com/IR4XrBA.gif https://i.imgtc.com/7X1rBRv.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:905613360] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote>states rights!</quote> States Rights only matter if you're suppressing minorities.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 10:59:12 PM #49:	FLUFFYGERM posted... you can buy a Chevy Bolt with 238 miles of range for under $30,000 with the tax incentives + discount from the dealer. in a couple more years the prices will have continued to drop while the range just goes up It is almost impossible to drive an EV from one end of the country to the other. Meanwhile, my 2004 Oldsmobile Alero can do that NOW - I actually went from Minnesota to Louisiana a little over a year ago in it, something I cannot do without taking a very specific route in a Tesla to hit the 'right' recharge station, if it's possible at all. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905613510] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>you can buy a Chevy Bolt with 238 miles of range for under $30,000 with the tax incentives + discount from the dealer. in a couple more years the prices will have continued to drop while the range just goes up</quote> It is almost impossible to drive an EV from one end of the country to the other. Meanwhile, my 2004 Oldsmobile Alero can do that NOW - I actually went from Minnesota to Louisiana a little over a year ago in it, something I cannot do without taking a very specific route in a Tesla to hit the 'right' recharge station, if it's possible at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/23/18 11:01:38 PM #50:	it's truly impressive how committed you are to anti-EV shitposting --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905613638] in Trump set ... [t:76835736]...</cite> <quote>it's truly impressive how committed you are to anti-EV shitposting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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