Current Events > Why are pedophilia accusations the go-to smear tactic of the far right?

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alt_no_1_loves
07/24/18 6:54:18 PM
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Yesterday Alex Jones went on a rant that Robert Mueller is part of a ring of liberal politicians who run a violent pedophile ring. I won't link to it directly, or anything containing the video, but Newsweek writer Benjamin Fearnow covered it if you're interested in seeing for yourself in a way that doesn't involve going straight to the source.

Why are such accusations a recurring theme and attack strategy for far right commentators?
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DarkTransient
07/24/18 6:55:07 PM
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Because it's one of the few things that both conservatives and liberals have a problem with?
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BignutzisBack
07/24/18 7:02:42 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Because it's one of the few things that both conservatives and liberals have a problem with?


OMG look at this Whataboutism!!! Ad hominem strawman both sides ad hominem ad hominem!!!!

smh the (party I disagree with) is so pathetic
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COVxy
07/24/18 7:04:10 PM
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It's really just whatever unsavory categorization can be levied against the other.

Since homosexuality is now normalized, they've had no choice but to move on.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/24/18 7:05:06 PM
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projection
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DarkTransient
07/24/18 7:05:30 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Because it's one of the few things that both conservatives and liberals have a problem with?


OMG look at this Whataboutism!!! Ad hominem strawman both sides ad hominem ad hominem!!!!

smh the (party I disagree with) is so pathetic


Not at all. It makes sense - if you're trying to discredit someone with a false (or questionable) accusation, you're going to use something that as many people as possible would have a problem with. You accuse them of being a racist, only liberals will care. You accuse them of being gay, only conservatives will care. But accuse them of being a pedophile? Neither side likes them.
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Tmaster148
07/24/18 7:05:55 PM
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LordFarquad1312
07/24/18 7:06:23 PM
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Probably because their once idol Milo turned out to be a fucking pedophile.
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DarkTransient
07/24/18 7:07:10 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Probably because their once idol Milo turned out to be a fucking pedophile.


No, he didn't. He turned out to be someone who didn't want to start a witch hunt over the fact that he was a victim of pedophilia, and the left twisted it into accusing him of being a "pedophile supporter".
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Axiom
07/24/18 7:08:19 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Because it's one of the few things that both conservatives and liberals have a problem with?

For people that should have a problem with it there were a hell of a lot of conservatives who stuck by Roy Moore including the actual president
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Broseph_Stalin
07/24/18 7:09:43 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
No, he didn't. He turned out to be someone who didn't want to start a witch hunt over the fact that he was a victim of pedophilia, and the left twisted it into accusing him of being a "pedophile supporter".

In the interview in a January 2016 episode of the podcast Drunken Peasants, Yiannopoulos stated that sexual relationships between 13-year-old boys and adult men and women can "happen perfectly consensually", because some 13-year-olds are, in his view, sexually and emotionally mature enough to consent to sex with adults; he spoke favourably both of gay 13-year-old boys having sex with adult men and straight 13-year-old boys having sex with adult women. He used his own experience as an example, saying he was mature enough to be capable of giving consent at a young age
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DarkTransient
07/24/18 7:11:57 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
DarkTransient posted...
No, he didn't. He turned out to be someone who didn't want to start a witch hunt over the fact that he was a victim of pedophilia, and the left twisted it into accusing him of being a "pedophile supporter".

In the interview in a January 2016 episode of the podcast Drunken Peasants, Yiannopoulos stated that sexual relationships between 13-year-old boys and adult men and women can "happen perfectly consensually", because some 13-year-olds are, in his view, sexually and emotionally mature enough to consent to sex with adults; he spoke favourably both of gay 13-year-old boys having sex with adult men and straight 13-year-old boys having sex with adult women. He used his own experience as an example, saying he was mature enough to be capable of giving consent at a young age


Could you please bold the part that backs up the claim that he himself is a pedophile, then?
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andel
07/24/18 7:12:46 PM
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its weird because internet pedophile types are overwhelmingly repugs/trump cultists and all the people with anime/loli sigs/pics are those same types
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LordFarquad1312
07/24/18 7:13:07 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
DarkTransient posted...
No, he didn't. He turned out to be someone who didn't want to start a witch hunt over the fact that he was a victim of pedophilia, and the left twisted it into accusing him of being a "pedophile supporter".

In the interview in a January 2016 episode of the podcast Drunken Peasants, Yiannopoulos stated that sexual relationships between 13-year-old boys and adult men and women can "happen perfectly consensually", because some 13-year-olds are, in his view, sexually and emotionally mature enough to consent to sex with adults; he spoke favourably both of gay 13-year-old boys having sex with adult men and straight 13-year-old boys having sex with adult women. He used his own experience as an example, saying he was mature enough to be capable of giving consent at a young age


Could you please bold the part that backs up the claim that he himself is a pedophile, then?


I can bold the in his view part only, if you still want to deny it.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/24/18 7:13:23 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Could you please bold the part that backs up the claim that he himself is a pedophile, then?


You said he was accused of being a pedophile supporter, I was correcting you. Get used to being wrong, it happens a lot.
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Axiom
07/24/18 7:14:39 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
DarkTransient posted...
No, he didn't. He turned out to be someone who didn't want to start a witch hunt over the fact that he was a victim of pedophilia, and the left twisted it into accusing him of being a "pedophile supporter".

In the interview in a January 2016 episode of the podcast Drunken Peasants, Yiannopoulos stated that sexual relationships between 13-year-old boys and adult men and women can "happen perfectly consensually", because some 13-year-olds are, in his view, sexually and emotionally mature enough to consent to sex with adults; he spoke favourably both of gay 13-year-old boys having sex with adult men and straight 13-year-old boys having sex with adult women. He used his own experience as an example, saying he was mature enough to be capable of giving consent at a young age


Could you please bold the part that backs up the claim that he himself is a pedophile, then?

Lmao imagine reading a post about a guy speaking favourably of sex with underage boys and asking this
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Fony
07/24/18 7:15:30 PM
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Projection
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Zikten
07/24/18 7:17:13 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Probably because their once idol Milo turned out to be a fucking pedophile.

omg why are people still saying that? he wasn't a pedophile he was a pedophile victim. he had sex with an adult man when he was a child. after he grew up he never did the same thing. he is not a pedophile
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Prestoff
07/24/18 7:20:37 PM
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Milo is not a pedophile, the only thing he said stupid was when he said that young boys can actually benefit and be consensual from having older men having sex with them. I'm glad though that Milo actually got hurt from saying stupid shit like this. I mean this is a good example to show to SJW's that silencing or censorship doesn't work, but allowing stupid people say stupid things is the best way to take anybody down.
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DarkTransient
07/24/18 7:21:11 PM
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Axiom posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
DarkTransient posted...
No, he didn't. He turned out to be someone who didn't want to start a witch hunt over the fact that he was a victim of pedophilia, and the left twisted it into accusing him of being a "pedophile supporter".

In the interview in a January 2016 episode of the podcast Drunken Peasants, Yiannopoulos stated that sexual relationships between 13-year-old boys and adult men and women can "happen perfectly consensually", because some 13-year-olds are, in his view, sexually and emotionally mature enough to consent to sex with adults; he spoke favourably both of gay 13-year-old boys having sex with adult men and straight 13-year-old boys having sex with adult women. He used his own experience as an example, saying he was mature enough to be capable of giving consent at a young age


Could you please bold the part that backs up the claim that he himself is a pedophile, then?

Lmao imagine reading a post about a guy speaking favourably of sex with underage boys and asking this


When the post was made as a response to stating he's not a pedophile? It's a very reasonable question to ask.

Just because one defends something (and it's debatable if this even counts as "defending it", given he's coming from the point of view of "it should be based on maturity, not age", not "yes it's fine to fuck 13 year olds no matter what") doesn't mean they themself participate in it.
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Zikten
07/24/18 7:28:49 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Milo is not a pedophile, the only thing he said stupid was when he said that young boys can actually benefit and be consensual from having older men having sex with them. I'm glad though that Milo actually got hurt from saying stupid shit like this. I mean this is a good example to show to SJW's that silencing or censorship doesn't work, but allowing stupid people say stupid things is the best way to take anybody down.

even that was not as bad as people think. what I remember him trying to say was that

"some relationships can be positive HOWEVER.....the chance of it is very very small. and you might as well just say that the law has it right when it comes to consent age. forget what I just said and just don't do those relationships"

that is basically what meant to say. he said it in a very weird way but ultimately he agrees that adults should not have sex with kids.
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CircleOfManias
07/24/18 7:30:54 PM
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Projection.
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alt_no_1_loves
07/24/18 7:31:35 PM
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Axiom posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Because it's one of the few things that both conservatives and liberals have a problem with?

For people that should have a problem with it there were a hell of a lot of conservatives who stuck by Roy Moore including the actual president

What a great example. With multiple credible accusations and everything! And he had Trump's support, and it was a tight race.

Meanwhile conspiracy nuts can make up baseless claims that get unstable people to bring guns to a pizza place... I don't think Alex Jones picked pedophilia accusations for no reason.
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andel
07/24/18 7:52:50 PM
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imagine defending human scum like milo wow
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DarkTransient
07/24/18 7:54:36 PM
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andel posted...
imagine defending human scum like milo wow


"You pointed out we're wrong about one accusation, that's equivalent to defending literally everything he's ever said or done!"
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andel
07/24/18 7:55:13 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
andel posted...
imagine defending human scum like milo wow


"You pointed out we're wrong about one accusation, that's equivalent to defending literally everything he's ever said or done!"


he defended pedophilia. if you defend someone like that yikes
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Link43130
07/24/18 7:55:57 PM
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Projection
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DarkTransient
07/24/18 7:58:38 PM
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andel posted...
DarkTransient posted...
andel posted...
imagine defending human scum like milo wow


"You pointed out we're wrong about one accusation, that's equivalent to defending literally everything he's ever said or done!"


he defended pedophilia. if you defend someone like that yikes


Again, "You pointed out we're wrong about one accusation, that's equivalent to defending literally everything he's ever said or done!"
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Fin_Dawg_004
07/24/18 8:00:18 PM
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yikes
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Zikten
07/24/18 8:01:54 PM
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andel posted...
he defended pedophilia

he did not
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Darmik
07/24/18 8:02:32 PM
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Zikten posted...
what I remember him trying to say was that

"some relationships can be positive HOWEVER.....the chance of it is very very small. and you might as well just say that the law has it right when it comes to consent age. forget what I just said and just don't do those relationships"

that is basically what meant to say. he said it in a very weird way but ultimately he agrees that adults should not have sex with kids.


Another man says: The whole consent thing for me. Its not this black and white thing that people try to paint it. Are there some 13-year-olds out there capable of giving informed consent to have sex with an adult, probably

The man says, The reason these age of consent laws exist is because we have to set some kind of a barometer here, weve got to pick some kind of an age

Milo: The law is probably about right, thats probably roughly the right age. I think its probably about okay, but there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age, I certainly consider myself to be one of them, people who are sexually active younger. I think it particularly happens in the gay world by the way. In many cases actually those relationships with older menThis is one reason I hate the left. This stupid one size fits all policing of culture. (People speak over each other). This sort of arbitrary and oppressive idea of consent, which totally destroys you know understanding that many of us have. The complexities and subtleties and complicated nature of many relationships. You know, people are messy and complex. In the homosexual world particularly. Some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, the sort of coming of age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys to discover who they are, and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable and sort of a rock where they cant speak to their parents. Some of those relationships are the most -

It sounds like Catholic priest molestation to me, another man says, interrupting Milo.

Milo: And you know what, Im grateful for Father Michael. I wouldnt give nearly such good head if it wasnt for him.

Other people talk. Oh my God, I cant handle it, one man says. The next thing in line is going to be pedophiliasays another man.

Milo: Youre misunderstanding what pedophilia means. Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody 13-years-old who is sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty. Pedophilia is attraction to people who dont have functioning sex organs yet. Who have not gone through puberty. Who are too young to be able (unclear and cut off by others)Thats not what we are talking about. You dont understand what pedophilia is if you are saying Im defending it because Im certainly not.

Another man said, You are advocating for cross generational relationships here, can we be honest about that?

Milo: Yeah, I dont mind admitting that. I think particularly in the gay world and outside the Catholic church, if thats where some of you want to go with this, I think in the gay world, some of the most important, enriching and incredibly life affirming, important shaping relationships very often between younger boys and older men, they can be hugely positive experiences for those young boys. They can even save those young boys, from desolation, from suicide (people talk over each other) providing theyre consensual.

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Zikten
07/24/18 8:03:37 PM
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Darmik posted...
The law is probably about right, thats probably roughly the right age.


this is the most important part of the quote
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DarkTransient
07/24/18 8:03:40 PM
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And here, we see a yet-unnamed liberal tactic, in which they ensure they make multiple layers of accusations against any specific individual / group, so that if one fails, they quickly fall back on "they're bad because of (everything else)" to silence the conversation, before any more layers of their complaint get stripped away; thus avoiding having to ever think about whether they might have been completely wrong as a whole.
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Darmik
07/24/18 8:04:41 PM
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Zikten posted...
Darmik posted...
The law is probably about right, thats probably roughly the right age.


this is the most important part of the quote


Everything that he said immediately after is the important part of the quote.
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andel
07/24/18 8:37:45 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
andel posted...
DarkTransient posted...
andel posted...
imagine defending human scum like milo wow


"You pointed out we're wrong about one accusation, that's equivalent to defending literally everything he's ever said or done!"


he defended pedophilia. if you defend someone like that yikes


Again, "You pointed out we're wrong about one accusation, that's equivalent to defending literally everything he's ever said or done!"


what? my claim is that he defended pedophilia, which he did and you are in here furiously shilling for him
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