Current Events > I added it up, I've spent approximately 4k on Oreo pupper in SIX MONTHS

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"Oreo Pupper did nothing wrong"

Spoiler alert, her adoption fee was only $200 of that.

(I'm including about 2k to replace flooring and furniture)
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Cats >>>>>>> Dogs
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You have a high energy dog and leave it in a crate for hours at a time.

I'm not criticizing you because I made the same mistake with a beagle and he was a fucking asshole.

Next time get a lazy breed like Pit Bull that just wants to sleep all day and do nothing. It's so much easier than the hunter gatherer types with infinite energy

lww99 posted...

Spoiler alert, her adoption fee was only $200 of that.

The best dogs come out of a cardboard box.

anyone else tired of hearing about oreo pupper
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Authentic_fan posted...

You have a high energy dog and leave it in a crate for hours at a time.

I'm not criticizing you because I made the same mistake with a beagle and he was a fucking asshole.

Next time get a lazy breed like Pit Bull that just wants to sleep all day and do nothing. It's so much easier than the hunter gatherer types with infinite energy

mixed reviews on pitbull. she used to get a hour long walk and multiple bathroom break walks at least 20 mins. they're not lazy at any means maybe medium energy dog.

dog feeling the older years i been trying for days to get her to do her old stuff.
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The dog didn't do anything wrong. Ripping up flooring or furniture is not some inherently malicious or evil act and the dog isn't doing it to be an ass. It's doing it because it's not getting the exercise and activity it needs.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

The dog didn't do anything wrong. Ripping up flooring or furniture is not some inherently malicious or evil act and the dog isn't doing it to be an ass. It's doing it because it's not getting the exercise and activity it needs.

kongs filled with substance can keep dogs pacified for a few hours.
provided the dog is into those sort of things.

even those toys you put food in can encourage the dog to play with it.
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Authentic_fan posted...

You have a high energy dog and leave it in a crate for hours at a time.

I'm not criticizing you because I made the same mistake with a beagle and he was a fucking asshole.

Next time get a lazy breed like Pit Bull that just wants to sleep all day and do nothing. It's so much easier than the hunter gatherer types with infinite energy

We were trying to let her out of her crate while we're gone, in slowly increasing increments.

First was like 20 mins, then an hour, then a couple hours. Yesterday was all day. This is what I came home to.


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That's your fault as an owner, not the dog's

Train your fucking dog better

DeadSite posted...

That's your fault as an owner, not the dog's

Train your fucking dog better

Looking into trainers but it's literally $100/hr. We're trying.
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lww99 posted...

DeadSite posted...

That's your fault as an owner, not the dog's

Train your fucking dog better

Looking into trainers but it's literally $100/hr. We're trying.

Looks like you could've trained it for 40 hours and gotten better results fam

We are and have been. It's not that easy.
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Dog did you a favor. Leather furniture sux

I kid, of course. That's fucking atrocious. When my dad had a dog that literally ate his bed due to separation, he got her a sister. That worked wonders for her. I can't guarantee that would work for you tho <_<
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lww99 posted...

We are and have been. It's not that easy.

Of course it's not easy that's why you fucking look into it before you do anything.

Timohtep posted...

Dog did you a favor. Leather furniture sux

I kid, of course. That's fucking atrocious. When my dad had a dog that literally ate his bed due to separation, he got her a sister. That worked wonders for her. I can't guarantee that would work for you tho <_<

She has an older "brother" home with her. He's a 5yr old retriever.

DeadSite posted...

lww99 posted...

We are and have been. It's not that easy.

Of course it's not easy that's why you fucking look into it before you do anything.

Literally no one expects THIS, but keep up with your holier-than-thou attitude, bucko.
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As someone who can't stand dogs, pro tip: letting it out of its cage during the day is not exercise.

Well, to clarify, the dog is turning it into exercise, because you've done nothing with it except stick it in a cage.
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We were trying to let her out of her crate while we're gone, in slowly increasing increments.

First was like 20 mins, then an hour, then a couple hours. Yesterday was all day. This is what I came home to.

It's not about being out of the crate. Those dogs need to be let outside.

Not saying you don't need go let a lazy dog out I'm just saying.

In the case of a beagle, they're literally bred to run around all day fetching birds so me and my roommates being at work for 8 hours a day was bad.

We'd let him out when we got home but that kind of dog needed to be out way more than we could realistically provide him unfortunately.

One of my roommates took him and apparently he's a well behaved dog now tho

lww99 posted...

DeadSite posted...
lww99 posted...
We are and have been. It's not that easy.

Of course it's not easy that's why you fucking look into it before you do anything.

Literally no one expects THIS, but keep up with your holier-than-thou attitude, bucko.

Maybe someone who doesn't actually look into what you need to do before you get a pup.

It took us weeks to get our pup crate trained but we did it fine because we looked into it. We knew what to do to tire him out. We've trained him to stop terrorizing our shoes. Because we took the time to do it. Don't get a fucking dog and then bitch that it does dog things if you don't train it

My friends dog chewed through his bedroom door, twice. To be fair to Snoop, my friend was barely home for 3 days straight with work (2 Jobs) one of those times. Just once to feed him. Housemates promised to take care of him but theyre lazy deadbeats so of course they couldnt.

I think he made the right choice when he sent the dog to live with his mom :(
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I try to play at least an hour's worth of fetch with her every day. Sprinting from one side of the yard to the other. It's not like I get home from work and just expect her to sleep all night.
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kingdrake2 posted...

kongs filled with substance can keep dogs pacified for a few hours.

my dog defeats kongs in approximately 45 seconds. her strategy: pick it up and throw it on the ground repeatedly.

the only thing that defeats her is a 10 mile walk/run. preferably at 20mph the whole way.

we have a bike attachment for her.
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lww99 posted...

I try to play at least an hour's worth of fetch with her every day. Sprinting from one side of the yard to the other. It's not like I get home from work and just expect her to sleep all night.

Fetch is pretty poor exercise tbh. I take my dog to parks, let him off leash and run, play with other dogs, take him on hikes, etc.

Fetch is something I do in conjunction with all that, not his only exercise

What's a pupper?
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Deadsite, it really feels like you think I just completely ignore her when I'm home. That I don't spend any time training her, or trying to correct any bad habits. That simply is not the case.
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lww99 posted...

Authentic_fan posted...

You have a high energy dog and leave it in a crate for hours at a time.

I'm not criticizing you because I made the same mistake with a beagle and he was a fucking asshole.

Next time get a lazy breed like Pit Bull that just wants to sleep all day and do nothing. It's so much easier than the hunter gatherer types with infinite energy

We were trying to let her out of her crate while we're gone, in slowly increasing increments.

First was like 20 mins, then an hour, then a couple hours. Yesterday was all day. This is what I came home to.

Thats not that bad
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lww99 posted...

Deadsite, it really feels like you think I just completely ignore her when I'm home. That I don't spend any time training her, or trying to correct any bad habits. That simply is not the case.

If your pup still has these types of habits 6 months into having it you haven't done a sufficient job training it.

My pup is only 6 months OLD and he's already a god damn angel. I can leave him out of the cage and he won't do anything but he even prefers being in there now when I'm not home.

DeadSite posted...

lww99 posted...

Deadsite, it really feels like you think I just completely ignore her when I'm home. That I don't spend any time training her, or trying to correct any bad habits. That simply is not the case.

If your pup still has these types of habits 6 months into having it you haven't done a sufficient job training it.

My pup is only 6 months OLD and he's already a god damn angel. I can leave him out of the cage and he won't do anything but he even prefers being in there now when I'm not home.

You need to accept the fact that not all dogs are the same. Some puppies have no issues with potty training after two days in a home, some take months. Some suffer from separation anxiety, some don't. Some need physical stimulation, some need mental stimulation, some just want to nap.
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idk man you seem to be the one unable to accept that there were deficiencies in your training plan

we've all advised solutions

board and train will help.
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lww99 posted...

You need to accept the fact that not all dogs are the same. Some puppies have no issues with potty training after two days in a home, some take months. Some suffer from separation anxiety, some don't. Some need physical stimulation, some need mental stimulation, some just want to nap.

Yeah the 4 dogs I've trained over the course of my entire life from puppyhood to their ends must all be well behaved by coincidence

Darkman124 posted...

idk man you seem to be the one unable to accept that there were deficiencies in your training plan

we've all advised solutions

board and train will help.

Pretty much this. I've even asked you why you don't cover your dogs cage and you had 0 response

What are my solutions, again?

-Pay $100/hr per session, or up to 2k for a full boarding school.

-Make her an outside dog, which isn't much of an option for her, with how much she likes to eat mulch, rocks, and grass. She will stop when you tell her to, but if she's unsupervised she goes for it.

-Crating her and not crating her

I'm not unwilling to try new ideas. I'm honestly down to try pretty much anything that will help with her. But some things just aren't viable for our current situation.
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DeadSite posted...

lww99 posted...

You need to accept the fact that not all dogs are the same. Some puppies have no issues with potty training after two days in a home, some take months. Some suffer from separation anxiety, some don't. Some need physical stimulation, some need mental stimulation, some just want to nap.

Yeah the 4 dogs I've trained over the course of my entire life from puppyhood to their ends must all be well behaved by coincidence

Darkman124 posted...

idk man you seem to be the one unable to accept that there were deficiencies in your training plan

we've all advised solutions

board and train will help.

Pretty much this. I've even asked you why you don't cover your dogs cage and you had 0 response

Wasn't trying to ignore you yesterday, had a lot of replies to go through. And honestly I was just very overwhelmed.

Do you cover just the top, all sides except the front? Or what.

I will try that to see if it freaks her out any less.

I know crates are supposed to be like dens for them, if properly acclimated to it.
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lww99 posted...

-Crating her and not crating her

You've already made her uncomfortable in her cage, now you have to retrain her.

Do you make her eat her food in her cage?
Do you cover her cage so she doesn't feel the vastness of the room?
Do you make the cage friendly to her by putting stuff of your scent in it and something she likes?
Did you hang out around her in her crate so she's okay with being in the crate while you're around FIRST?

Etc etc etc

There's a lot of steps to getting a dog used to a cage man

lww99 posted...

Do you cover just the top, all sides except the front? Or what.

Basically everything but the front. You want her to basically only able to see in front of the cage like a cave. Do menial tasks around her. Make sure she doesn't whine in it and get her used to just chilling in there with you around.

Also having like an old worn shirt that you don't need anymore or something in there with her might help

Kazi1212 posted...

lww99 posted...

Authentic_fan posted...

You have a high energy dog and leave it in a crate for hours at a time.

I'm not criticizing you because I made the same mistake with a beagle and he was a fucking asshole.

Next time get a lazy breed like Pit Bull that just wants to sleep all day and do nothing. It's so much easier than the hunter gatherer types with infinite energy

We were trying to let her out of her crate while we're gone, in slowly increasing increments.

First was like 20 mins, then an hour, then a couple hours. Yesterday was all day. This is what I came home to.

Thats not that bad

kinda bad. it's not my current dog but the one before it had very serious separation anxiety during the incident. every time the house was left the dog would have that issue and tear up the place. thinking back i kinda wish i wouldn't of scolded so hard. i did pretty well with my current dog despite the circumstances it only chewed carpet 2 times (maybe a small square of it).
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DeadSite posted...

lww99 posted...

-Crating her and not crating her

You've already made her uncomfortable in her cage, now you have to retrain her.

Do you make her eat her food in her cage?
Do you cover her cage so she doesn't feel the vastness of the room?
Do you make the cage friendly to her by putting stuff of your scent in it and something she likes?
Did you hang out around her in her crate so she's okay with being in the crate while you're around FIRST?

Etc etc etc

There's a lot of steps to getting a dog used to a cage man

Right now she eats in the kitchen, separate from the other dog.

We don't cover her crate, but I will try that tomorrow.

When we first got her, we tried putting blankets, towels, old T shirts in there with her. She would unfortunately only use it to cover up her poop.
So we stopped putting things in there with her, because she would poop or pee, pretty no matter long she was in there.

I wish we would have had more time to prep her, but we had to go back to work like the day after adopting her.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Switch to cats. The worst I come home to is ripped up paper towels, cat hair, and not correctly burying their poop so it landed on the floor. Easy fixes.

We've got both. Two dogs, three cats. They stay separate for the most part, except the youngest cat thinks he's half and half.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Switch to cats. The worst I come home to is ripped up paper towels, cat hair, and not correctly burying their poop so it landed on the floor. Easy fixes.

My cats occasionally gets ahold of a roll of paper towels and grabs onto it and tears into it with his back claws. It's adorable.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Switch to cats. The worst I come home to is ripped up paper towels, cat hair, and not correctly burying their poop so it landed on the floor. Easy fixes.

if pet those just right and if the cat is in a good mood. might get one to start purring.
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@DeadSite

So after I get home today, should I try putting her back in there, while just hanging out in the living room?

I don't want her to think she's being punished. We've never used it for bad behavior though
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lww99 posted...

@DeadSite

So after I get home today, should I try putting her back in there, while just hanging out in the living room?

I don't want her to think she's being punished. We've never used it for bad behavior though

Yeah that's what we do. Usually for some treat or something, or even just right after they eat and play.

I'll have him in the cage and just chill around him.