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pogo_rabid 07/30/18 11:00:12 PM #1: |
if you work on your car yourself instead...then holds it hostage for 5 figures
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Muffinz0rz 07/30/18 11:00:46 PM #2: |
tag
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CableZL 07/30/18 11:01:36 PM #3: |
What does "working on your car yourself" entail? Can you change wiper blades, refill fluids, change flat tires, etc?
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pogo_rabid 07/30/18 11:03:13 PM #4: |
CableZL posted...
What does "working on your car yourself" entail? Can you change wiper blades, refill fluids, change flat tires, etc? Watch the video. --- i7 5820k, 32gig QC, EVGA 1070ti, Samsung 970pro, Asus X99-a deluxe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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solosnake 07/30/18 11:04:09 PM #5: |
This is the future of the automobile
eventually you wont be allowed to even drive it will just be AI fleets --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 07/30/18 11:05:30 PM #7: |
solosnake posted...
eventually you wont be allowed to even drive it will just be AI fleets I'm fine with this. Driving is awful. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 07/30/18 11:07:05 PM #8: |
pogo_rabid posted...
CableZL posted...What does "working on your car yourself" entail? Can you change wiper blades, refill fluids, change flat tires, etc? Watched it. That's dirty AF --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 07/30/18 11:08:31 PM #9: |
M_Live posted...
Cars come with ransomware now? Yep, they literally took away access from supercharge stations while a family was on a roadtrip (effectively leaving them stranded) because they did some repairwork themselves, then held the car hostage for over 10k to reinstate those features. --- i7 5820k, 32gig QC, EVGA 1070ti, Samsung 970pro, Asus X99-a deluxe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/30/18 11:10:59 PM #10: |
Eh. The "features" it disables aren't exactly independent. "Supercharging" stations are still Tesla ran aren't they?
Not saying it's fair but definitely seems like something they should have been aware of going into it. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MI4 REAL 07/30/18 11:11:20 PM #11: |
I keep saying the future is stupid. Ever wonder why?
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SSJCAT 07/30/18 11:13:01 PM #12: |
this seems really dangerous...
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Paragon21XX 07/30/18 11:13:54 PM #13: |
This kind of nonsense is why I support "Right to Repair" legislation.
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solosnake 07/30/18 11:14:22 PM #14: |
SSJCAT posted...
this seems really dangerous... Why? I think its safe. This way if there is someone the intelligence community deems a threat they can just remotely lock their doors and speed their car up to 200 miles an hours until they crash. --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 07/30/18 11:15:01 PM #15: |
Paragon21XX posted...
This kind of nonsense is why I support "Right to Repair" legislation. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 07/30/18 11:15:20 PM #16: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Eh. The "features" it disables aren't exactly independent. "Supercharging" stations are still Tesla ran aren't they? What? No. It's a ludicrous policy for a company to hold. They're effectively holding every tesla on the road hostage to their whims and insane pricing models. No other car company does this, so it shouldn't be something you should "expect going into it". --- i7 5820k, 32gig QC, EVGA 1070ti, Samsung 970pro, Asus X99-a deluxe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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halomonkey1_3_5 07/30/18 11:15:42 PM #17: |
@silentwing26x
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MI4 REAL 07/30/18 11:15:47 PM #18: |
This kind of nonsense is why I believe a revolution is in order.
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Teddytalks 07/30/18 11:17:04 PM #19: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Eh. The "features" it disables aren't exactly independent. "Supercharging" stations are still Tesla ran aren't they? What a shitty opinion. Leaving your family stranded is something they should have notifed him of, especially since he left their service station, and since the guy he called only know of one other case, this is a rare issue. This bullshit is why captialism in it's purist form is bound to fail. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 07/30/18 11:17:28 PM #20: |
This is why I live in the past. About to go watch Paths of Glory on VHS.
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MI4 REAL 07/30/18 11:18:25 PM #21: |
ledbowman posted...
This is why I live in the past. About to go watch Paths of Glory on VHS. Wanna round of Goldeneye 007? --- "Er...well, y'know. You can't make an omelette without um...destroying a forest.....or something" -Black Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 07/30/18 11:19:08 PM #22: |
That's pretty shitty tbh
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HiddenRoar 07/30/18 11:21:04 PM #23: |
Even when faced with revelations like this, you can bet people will still like Musk and the Tesla.
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ledbowman 07/30/18 11:23:07 PM #24: |
MI4 REAL posted...
ledbowman posted...This is why I live in the past. About to go watch Paths of Glory on VHS. Yes --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/30/18 11:23:27 PM #25: |
Teddytalks posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Eh. The "features" it disables aren't exactly independent. "Supercharging" stations are still Tesla ran aren't they? I'm not saying that owners shouldn't have any rights here but at some point you can't expect the company to keep servicing and supporting vehicles they haven't certified. Who the fuck does Tesla sue when one of these vehicles catches fire and burns a supercharging station down? Or do you somehow still think that's Tesla's problem? ledbowman posted... This is why I live in the past. About to go watch Paths of Glory on VHS. Real talk, cds are still probably the best music media available. More bitrate and bitdepth than necessary. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 07/30/18 11:24:27 PM #26: |
At least when GM tried to pull this shit years ago with their EV1's, they were just leases, nobody actually bought the cars outright, unlike what is happening to Tesla "owners" here.
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Taharqa_ 07/30/18 11:25:40 PM #28: |
That is some pure fuckery right there.
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Tyranthraxus 07/30/18 11:28:02 PM #29: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Real talk, cds are still probably the best music media available. More bitrate and bitdepth than necessary. Nah. Digital is far superior to everything at this point. Compact Disc audio is held back by shitty standards set by a pretentious Sony employee back in the 80s. You can make them better but it's a total toss up as to whether or not they'll play as most players only recognize the red book standard. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 07/30/18 11:28:14 PM #30: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Teddytalks posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Eh. The "features" it disables aren't exactly independent. "Supercharging" stations are still Tesla ran aren't they? Which people waste by filling them with 30 mp3 files. --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 07/30/18 11:28:27 PM #31: |
I really wanted a tesla as well... but they just lost a customer
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MI4 REAL 07/30/18 11:29:49 PM #32: |
ledbowman posted...
MI4 REAL posted...ledbowman posted...This is why I live in the past. About to go watch Paths of Glory on VHS. Don't even have to fight each other. Strafing rockets in the temple is great fun. Strafed rockets are awesome to watch. The Cougar Magnum is a real bitch in Facility LTK BTW. I remember that. --- "Er...well, y'know. You can't make an omelette without um...destroying a forest.....or something" -Black Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 07/30/18 11:29:57 PM #33: |
this is what happens when you use cars that use software that don't respect your freedom
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Teddytalks 07/30/18 11:30:49 PM #34: |
I'm not saying that owners shouldn't have any rights here but at some point you can't expect the company to keep servicing and supporting vehicles they haven't certified. Who the fuck does Tesla sue when one of these vehicles catches fire and burns a supercharging station down? Or do you somehow still think that's Tesla's problem? If they fail to properly notify buyers of this (which they did fail to do) then they should just take the loss. There is zero reason that Tesla couldn't notify that man when he was there, and zero reason they should not notify potential buyers. Unless, they're greedy fucks and do not want to scare away potential buyers. They should be sued for leaving this man and his family stranded without prior warning. The only reason this didn't really end up bad because he had capital. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 07/30/18 11:32:23 PM #35: |
I cannot wait until tesla jailbreaking becomes mainstream, enabling features that are on the car that is just a software switch, and Tesla is legally unable to tell people they can't modify the software unless they state the owners don't actually own their cars.
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MI4 REAL 07/30/18 11:32:38 PM #36: |
Circumvention is your answer.
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electricbugs2 07/30/18 11:33:09 PM #37: |
Garbage company that makes garbage products.
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Tyranthraxus 07/30/18 11:33:52 PM #38: |
Watch how the people who are totally angry about this all love PlayStation.
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ledbowman 07/30/18 11:35:14 PM #39: |
MI4 REAL posted...
ledbowman posted...MI4 REAL posted...ledbowman posted...This is why I live in the past. About to go watch Paths of Glory on VHS. You can have RCP, I will stick with Klobb. --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 07/30/18 11:36:19 PM #40: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Watch how the people who are totally angry about this all love PlayStation. A five figure repair bill that they just sprung up on you though? --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 07/30/18 11:37:53 PM #41: |
Taharqa_ posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...Watch how the people who are totally angry about this all love PlayStation. It's not even a repair bill. It's a ransom for them to flip a switch that they randomly turned off on you. --- i7 5820k, 32gig QC, EVGA 1070ti, Samsung 970pro, Asus X99-a deluxe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/30/18 11:38:53 PM #42: |
Taharqa_ posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...Watch how the people who are totally angry about this all love PlayStation. Would you be okay with it if it was just $100 to reactivate? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MI4 REAL 07/30/18 11:40:23 PM #44: |
ledbowman posted...
MI4 REAL posted...ledbowman posted...MI4 REAL posted...ledbowman posted...This is why I live in the past. About to go watch Paths of Glory on VHS. Doesn't make a difference, if you have an RCP and I got nothing I'll charge you with my hands if the only option is that. BTW....remember the one time you surprised your friends when you could get back up into the facility vent? --- "Er...well, y'know. You can't make an omelette without um...destroying a forest.....or something" -Black Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/30/18 11:41:30 PM #45: |
Taharqa_ posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...Watch how the people who are totally angry about this all love PlayStation. Watch it again. The $10k bill was what the manager said another car had cost to get rectified. We never got the numbers on what that person was quoted, if they had been quoted at all. @Taharqa_ --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 07/30/18 11:43:19 PM #47: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Taharqa_ posted...Tyranthraxus posted...Watch how the people who are totally angry about this all love PlayStation. Would you be more pissed off if someone swiped 10k out of your bank account instead of $100? --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/30/18 11:44:26 PM #48: |
Taharqa_ posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...Taharqa_ posted...Tyranthraxus posted...Watch how the people who are totally angry about this all love PlayStation. Again, the $10k was for A DIFFERENT FUCKING VEHICLE. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 07/30/18 11:45:23 PM #49: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Taharqa_ posted...Tyranthraxus posted... They wouldnt have said anything about the 10k if it wasnt a relevant figure.......... --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 07/30/18 11:46:35 PM #50: |
pogo_rabid posted...
Yep, they literally took away access from supercharge stations Not the same thing as disabling something in the car. It's a completely extra thing that Tesla provides. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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