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ImaAskAQuestion
08/01/18 2:19:48 PM
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An immigrant child died after being in custody of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Dilley, Texas, according to tweets from Houston immigration lawyer Mana Yegani on Tuesday.

In one of the tweets, Yegani revealed a possible cause for the childs death.

The child died following her stay at an ICE Detention Center, as a result of possible negligent care and a respiratory illness she contracted from one of the other children. The events took place in Dilley Family Detention Center in south Texas, she wrote.

While there was no confirmation about the whereabouts of the childs parents, Yegani said the formers grandmother was in New Jersey. She added a lawyer was in touch with the family of the child to get more information about the matter.

If they ask for a visa, the US government wont give them one. If they stay in their country their kids get killed by the gangs. So they are damned if they try to come the legal or illegal way, she wrote in another tweet.

The ICE has not issued any statement regarding the incident and hence, there was no way of verifying whether Yeganis claims were true.

Yeganis bio on Twitter reads: Award winning immigration lawyer. Passionate about Immigrants. Patriotic American. Love dogs & cats.

She has her own website, which has the words, Fighting For You To Stay In The United States splashed on top.

There are many legal professionals and immigration officials in Southeast Texas that vouch for Attorney Mana Yegani's hard work and dedication toward her immigrant and non-immigrant clients. When you turn to our immigration and visa lawyer in Houston, she becomes your tireless advocate. The process of applying for temporary residence or permanent citizenship in the United States can be challenging. For that reason, Attorney Mana Yegani is committed to helping our clients make wise decisions throughout the entirety of their case, the website further read.


https://www.ibtimes.com/child-dead-after-ice-detention-center-stay-due-negligent-care-immigration-lawyer-2704521
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Muffinz0rz
08/01/18 2:20:16 PM
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Jesus, man
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08/01/18 2:23:28 PM
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Southernfatman
08/01/18 2:23:38 PM
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"Well I guess they shouldn't have come here illegally hur hur hur I r smrt" - sociopaths/trolls
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megamanfreakXD
08/01/18 2:45:58 PM
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I mean they had a non-board certified doctor giving psychotropic medications to children, I wouldn't be surprised someone died while being in that cage.

It was a matter of time this would happen.
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eston
08/01/18 2:51:56 PM
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While there was no confirmation about the whereabouts of the childs parents

Yes, because we literally made no attempt at trying to keep track of such things
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Tyranthraxus
08/01/18 2:57:04 PM
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Geraldo Rivera is probably really really really not happy right now.
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Zikten
08/01/18 2:57:58 PM
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I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided
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yusiko
08/01/18 2:58:07 PM
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disgusting
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Foppe
08/01/18 3:43:24 PM
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Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Because this is making America great again.
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DragonGirlYuki
08/01/18 3:44:52 PM
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ThePrinceFish
08/01/18 3:46:02 PM
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Foppe posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Because this is making America great again.

I mean, Trump is on the record saying again and again that we shouldn't be forced to slough through years of legal bullshit to throw illegal immigrants out just because they took a step on American soil, but whatever.
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hockeybub89
08/01/18 3:46:03 PM
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"Their evil parents killed them by forcing them to break the law!"

-Someone somewhere
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hockeybub89
08/01/18 3:47:06 PM
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Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

But da lurrrr doe!
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Foppe
08/01/18 3:47:41 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Foppe posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Because this is making America great again.

I mean, Trump is on the record saying again and again that we shouldn't be forced to slough through years of legal bullshit to throw illegal immigrants out just because they took a step on American soil, but whatever.

Trump is saying a lot of things. And half of it contradicts the rest.
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glitteringfairy
08/01/18 3:48:35 PM
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E32005 posted...
Trumps Nazi America

Fuckin Hail Satan
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CollegeDevil
08/01/18 3:50:51 PM
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well I guess they should not have come here illegally hur hur de hur.
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Ving_Rhames
08/01/18 3:54:08 PM
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Usual suspects will deflect hard.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/01/18 3:59:07 PM
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Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Due process exists
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TheVipaGTS
08/01/18 4:00:13 PM
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Fuck Trump.
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hockeybub89
08/01/18 4:00:56 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Due process exists

I was standing there and now I am standing here. I am not a citizen here. Pretty cut and dry. "Due process" clearly isn't working out for illegal immigrants as it stands.
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P4wn4g3
08/01/18 4:01:08 PM
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Welcome to Nazi America
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LightHawKnight
08/01/18 4:01:09 PM
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If she contracted it, so will many others... This is not going to be good.
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Funkydog
08/01/18 4:01:20 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Due process exists

Then at least keep them together as was done before by both sides.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/01/18 4:01:30 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Due process exists

I was standing there and now I am standing here. I am not a citizen here. Pretty cut and dry. "Due process" clearly isn't working out for illegal immigrants as it stands.

Ok feel free to argue against due process all you want, I was answering his question
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King_Hellebuyck
08/01/18 4:02:00 PM
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Funkydog posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Due process exists

Then at least keep them together as was done before by both sides.

And then it was deemed illegal
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Tyranthraxus
08/01/18 4:04:49 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Funkydog posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Due process exists

Then at least keep them together as was done before by both sides.

And then it was deemed illegal

It was deemed illegal so Obama instituted catch and release to avoid breaking them up which was a perfectly legal solution.

Killing children by neglect is not legal.
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Funkydog
08/01/18 4:04:53 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Funkydog posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Due process exists

Then at least keep them together as was done before by both sides.

And then it was deemed illegal

It isn't, however. Trump and his administration have just decided it needs to be done to send a message. They are purposely doing this to scare people from trying to enter the country.
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Dagon_0
08/01/18 4:05:49 PM
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Summer camp my ass, fuck these nazi fucks.
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ThePrinceFish
08/01/18 4:06:15 PM
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Funkydog posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Funkydog posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Due process exists

Then at least keep them together as was done before by both sides.

And then it was deemed illegal

It isn't, however. Trump and his administration have just decided it needs to be done to send a message. They are purposely doing this to scare people from trying to enter the country.

It's illegal to keep the children in custody with their parents for longer than 20 days.

The "old way" is to give the parents a court date in several months and release them into the country where they fail to show up to court because why the fuck would they do that?

And that is not border enforcement.
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deupd_u
08/01/18 4:07:32 PM
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There are about 2,000 children detained at the border. That's a large enough sample for this to be entirely normal. People die.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/01/18 4:09:52 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Funkydog posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
I still don't understand why any of this is needed. Just deport the family when they first are arrested. Don't take the moms into custody and don't kidnap the kids. Just stop them at the border and turn them back around and all this shit is avoided

Due process exists

Then at least keep them together as was done before by both sides.

And then it was deemed illegal

It was deemed illegal so Obama instituted catch and release to avoid breaking them up which was a perfectly legal solution.

Killing children by neglect is not legal.

Correct.
It's illegal to keep the children in custody with their parents for longer than 20 days.

The "old way" is to give the parents a court date in several months and release them into the country where they fail to show up to court because why the fuck would they do that?

And that is not border enforcement.


When given proper council, they overwhelming showed up. Ya know, plus the Trump way just killed an innocent kid
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TrevorBlack79
08/01/18 4:09:55 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
The "old way" is to give the parents a court date in several months and release them into the country where they fail to show up to court because why the f*** would they do that?


So you keep doing it that way until you have the infrastructure in place to detain the families together In a proper facility. You don't implement a new policy before you have the necessary foundation to enforce it without killing people through negligence.
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BLAKUboy
08/01/18 4:12:35 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I was standing there and now I am standing here. I am not a citizen here. Pretty cut and dry.

Constitutional rights don't only apply to citizens.
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TrevorBlack79
08/01/18 4:14:03 PM
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deupd_u posted...
There are about 2,000 children detained at the border. That's a large enough sample for this to be entirely normal. People die.


It's entirely normal for children to die from negligence while in government custody?
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apple1986
08/01/18 4:14:33 PM
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>possible negligent care and a respiratory illness she contracted from one of the other children.

So, a respiratory illness she contracted from one of the other children.

Move along, no scandal here Snowflakes.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/01/18 4:17:26 PM
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apple1986 posted...
>possible negligent care and a respiratory illness she contracted from one of the other children.

So, a respiratory illness she contracted from one of the other children.

Move along, no scandal here Snowflakes.

This is a stupid post
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apple1986
08/01/18 4:17:41 PM
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TrevorBlack79 posted...
deupd_u posted...
There are about 2,000 children detained at the border. That's a large enough sample for this to be entirely normal. People die.


It's entirely normal for children to die from negligence while in government custody?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_statistics
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TrevorBlack79
08/01/18 4:18:28 PM
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apple1986 posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
deupd_u posted...
There are about 2,000 children detained at the border. That's a large enough sample for this to be entirely normal. People die.


It's entirely normal for children to die from negligence while in government custody?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_statistics


This doesn't answer the question.
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hockeybub89
08/01/18 4:19:12 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
I was standing there and now I am standing here. I am not a citizen here. Pretty cut and dry.

Constitutional rights don't only apply to citizens.

I care about what protects the most people. The law isn't always right, so let's change it. There is no need to even consider court cases, detainments and/or separations. If you are here illegally and have nothing that says the contrary, then let's scoop up your family all together and put them on a plane. Problem solved. Money saved. Internment camps gone.
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A_Good_Boy
08/01/18 4:20:11 PM
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Imagine being 32 and acting this way on a dying video game message board.
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hockeybub89
08/01/18 4:20:52 PM
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deupd_u posted...
There are about 2,000 children detained at the border. That's a large enough sample for this to be entirely normal. People die.

Placing 2000 children in the mouths of alligators will statistically kill them. Doesn't mean it's ok to put the children there.
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Smashingpmkns
08/01/18 4:21:22 PM
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I bet ICE is trained to not see these children as humans and more as enemies of the state. Fucking monsters.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/01/18 4:21:45 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
I was standing there and now I am standing here. I am not a citizen here. Pretty cut and dry.

Constitutional rights don't only apply to citizens.

I care about what protects the most people. The law isn't always right, so let's change it. There is no need to even consider court cases, detainments and/or separations. If you are here illegally and have nothing that says the contrary, then let's scoop up your family all together and put them on a plane. Problem solved. Money saved. Internment camps gone.

Yes this plan surely wouldnt lead to citizens being deported. To where? Who knows!
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Rika_Furude
08/01/18 4:26:07 PM
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It sucks that the parents put the children into this scenario willingly.
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apple1986
08/01/18 4:27:11 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
deupd_u posted...
There are about 2,000 children detained at the border. That's a large enough sample for this to be entirely normal. People die.

Placing 2000 children in the mouths of alligators will statistically kill them. Doesn't mean it's ok to put the children there.


I'm not American.

To be fair, America, or Trump, didn't put them there. *Insert South-American Country Name Here* did and/or their family/themselves did.

America has a right to protect it's borders, just like any other country. Once an individual violates International Borders they are an international criminal and should be treated as such.
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_RETS_
08/01/18 4:28:50 PM
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Is it too soon to rage over this or do we wait until literally anything other than "she was at that camp" is verified.

She didn't die in the camp contrary to the topic title. The lawyer is alleging negligence, which has yet to be proven.

Why not wait at least a little to get the necessary info?
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King_Hellebuyck
08/01/18 4:30:59 PM
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apple1986 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
deupd_u posted...
There are about 2,000 children detained at the border. That's a large enough sample for this to be entirely normal. People die.

Placing 2000 children in the mouths of alligators will statistically kill them. Doesn't mean it's ok to put the children there.


I'm not American.

To be fair, America, or Trump, didn't put them there. *Insert South-American Country Name Here* did and/or their family/themselves did.

America has a right to protect it's borders, just like any other country. Once an individual violates International Borders they are an international criminal and should be treated as such.

No they were put there by US law enforcement based on policy of the Trump administration
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scar the 1
08/01/18 4:32:35 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
The "old way" is to give the parents a court date in several months and release them into the country where they fail to show up to court because why the f*** would they do that?

Back your shit up or shut up. How common was it for people to not show up. Were there any policies or programs in place to ensure they would show up? How effective were they?
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