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End game kotor 1 darkside spoilers

Killing Jolee and Juhani. Then returning to the beach and force persuading Zalbaar to kill Mission?
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Remember when you can force lightning someone till they soil themselves
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MorbidFaithless posted...

Remember when you can force lightning someone till they soil themselves

Or in the cut female darkside ending when Carth returns to the Star Forge to try and "save" you by confessing his love to you. At that point you can say, "You love me? Well then I guess I'll kill you myself for old times sake

Like jesus christ.
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It's sort of blah looking back. That was the heyday of morality systems, and it was before we realized that it was literally just "choice A, where you continue the story like a normal human being" or "choice B, where you randomly become a self serving sociopath who likes to punt babies just for fun".

_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...

MorbidFaithless posted...

Remember when you can force lightning someone till they soil themselves

Or in the cut female darkside ending when Carth returns to the Star Forge to try and "save" you by confessing his love to you. At that point you can say, "You love me? Well then I guess I'll kill you myself for old times sake

Like jesus christ.

Lmao that's fucked up.
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In Jade Empire you can use magic (by killing a magical dragon that has been forced to bleed magical water for years) to force several of your party members to be your slave and you force them to do evil things. Eventually they break free and you kill them.
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Darmik posted...

In Jade Empire you can use magic (by killing a magical dragon that has been forced to bleed magical water for years) to force several of your party members to be your slave and you force them to do evil things. Eventually they break free and you kill them.

I remember that, thats how you get the hidden party member.
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_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...

Darmik posted...

In Jade Empire you can use magic (by killing a magical dragon that has been forced to bleed magical water for years) to force several of your party members to be your slave and you force them to do evil things. Eventually they break free and you kill them.

I remember that, thats how you get the hidden party member.

The red mask death guy?
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Dash_Harber posted...

It's sort of blah looking back. That was the heyday of morality systems, and it was before we realized that it was literally just "choice A, where you continue the story like a normal human being" or "choice B, where you randomly become a self serving sociopath who likes to punt babies just for fun".

I'd be inclined to agree in most cases, but in a game where you can become a fullblown evil empire sith lord, that actually fits perfectly imo.
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MorbidFaithless posted...

_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...

Darmik posted...

In Jade Empire you can use magic (by killing a magical dragon that has been forced to bleed magical water for years) to force several of your party members to be your slave and you force them to do evil things. Eventually they break free and you kill them.

I remember that, thats how you get the hidden party member.

The red mask death guy?

Yeah because he was already enslaved by the villain right? You're just transferring ownership to yourself..
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snake1989 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

It's sort of blah looking back. That was the heyday of morality systems, and it was before we realized that it was literally just "choice A, where you continue the story like a normal human being" or "choice B, where you randomly become a self serving sociopath who likes to punt babies just for fun".

I'd be inclined to agree in most cases, but in a game where you can become a fullblown evil empire sith lord, that actually fits perfectly imo.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game and it was great for the time, but in hindsight, the motivation for being a sith was incredibly flimsy in comparison to the story that drove the lightside story.

Dash_Harber posted...

snake1989 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

It's sort of blah looking back. That was the heyday of morality systems, and it was before we realized that it was literally just "choice A, where you continue the story like a normal human being" or "choice B, where you randomly become a self serving sociopath who likes to punt babies just for fun".

I'd be inclined to agree in most cases, but in a game where you can become a fullblown evil empire sith lord, that actually fits perfectly imo.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game and it was great for the time, but in hindsight, the motivation for being a sith was incredibly flimsy in comparison to the story that drove the lightside story.

When is being evil ever the right thing to do.......
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Dash_Harber posted...

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game and it was great for the time, but in hindsight, the motivation for being a sith was incredibly flimsy in comparison to the story that drove the lightside story.

Considering the twist and the Star Forge I think the motivations do overall make sense for the story.

Like you're not a complex character (KOTOR 2 tried to change that a bit) but that's Star Wars for the most part.
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That's the entire reason I've never been able to do a complete darkside run. I cant bear to kill Jolee, he's mah boi.

Juhani though, I don't give a shit about. I usually kill her off on Dantooine.
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Darmik posted...

Like you're not a complex character (KOTOR 2 tried to change that a bit) but that's Star Wars for the most part.

Yeah, that's definitely what I was thinking too. More part and parcel to Star Wars in general.

I guess it just seemed a lot more complex when I played it originally, haha.

WafflehouseJK posted...

That's the entire reason I've never been able to do a complete darkside run. I cant bear to kill Jolee, he's mah boi.

Juhani though, I don't give a shit about. I usually kill her off on Dantooine.

First mod I installed replaces Juhani with Yuthura from Korriban. Now when you turn her lightside you can recruit her on Dantooine and she takes the place of Juhani
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