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Corman321 08/15/18 11:41:14 AM #1:	https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08/14/social-distortion-lead-singer/ SACRAMENTO (CBS13) A Trump supporter claims he was attacked by the lead singer of a punk rock band when he jeered the frontmans political statements. Tim Hildebrand of Galt says the attack happened at a Social Distortion concert at the Ace of Spades in Midtown. Hildebrand says he grew up listening to the bands music and was excited to attend one of their shows, but never thought hed leave bloody and bruised at the hands of a famous musician. Hildebrand says the singer started badmouthing President Trump and America and the Republican farmer from Galt didnt like it. I stood pretty much with my silent protest with my middle finger up for the next two songs. Ness didnt like that and in the video, you can see him motion Hildebrand to the stage, where the singer spits in his face. Hildebrand says the two were yelling at each other when Ness lunged toward him. Takes his guitar off, jumps off the stage and proceeds to punch me multiple times in the head. <cite>Corman321 posted [p:906922277] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08/14/social-distortion-lead-singer/ <quote>SACRAMENTO (CBS13) A Trump supporter claims he was attacked by the lead singer of a punk rock band when he jeered the frontmans political statements. Tim Hildebrand of Galt says the attack happened at a Social Distortion concert at the Ace of Spades in Midtown. Hildebrand says he grew up listening to the bands music and was excited to attend one of their shows, but never thought hed leave bloody and bruised at the hands of a famous musician. Hildebrand says the singer started badmouthing President Trump and America and the Republican farmer from Galt didnt like it. I stood pretty much with my silent protest with my middle finger up for the next two songs. Ness didnt like that and in the video, you can see him motion Hildebrand to the stage, where the singer spits in his face. Hildebrand says the two were yelling at each other when Ness lunged toward him. Takes his guitar off, jumps off the stage and proceeds to punch me multiple times in the head.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/15/18 11:47:04 AM #2:	Trump really makes people lose their minds <cite>Zikten posted [p:906922598] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>Trump really makes people lose their minds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/15/18 11:48:37 AM #3:	Zikten posted... Trump really makes people lose their minds I know it seems that crazy is a transferable disease. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:906922685] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>Trump really makes people lose their minds</quote> I know it seems that crazy is a transferable disease.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/15/18 11:48:59 AM #4:	Well now he can say it's the story of his liiiiiiife --- "I got a rollatruc, look." <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:906922704] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>Well now he can say it's the story of his liiiiiiife</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ray_Dorset 08/15/18 11:49:14 AM #5:	womp womp --- Owner of https://imgtc.com/ <cite>Ray_Dorset posted [p:906922715] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>womp womp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/15/18 11:50:36 AM #6:	I pretty much said I paid for your music, not your politics. ~ Redhat idiot Idiot doesn't understand punk . . . --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:906922779] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>I pretty much said I paid for your music, not your politics. ~ Redhat idiot Idiot doesn't understand punk . . .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/15/18 11:51:01 AM #7:	This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:906922799] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 08/15/18 11:51:25 AM #8:	So he got butthurt about Trump being called out so he gave the singer the middle finger for two straight songs instead of leaving? Sure he didn't deserve to get punched, but let's not say he was completely innocent here. <cite>BWLurker posted [p:906922819] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>So he got butthurt about Trump being called out so he gave the singer the middle finger for two straight songs instead of leaving? Sure he didn't deserve to get punched, but let's not say he was completely innocent here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 08/15/18 11:51:25 AM #9:	The democrats didnt used to be like this. Not sure what happened to them... --- Member of The Fam <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:906922820] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>The democrats didnt used to be like this. Not sure what happened to them...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ranlom 08/15/18 11:51:27 AM #10:	That is not the time or place to be peacefully protesting. Do it on your own time. ~~womp~~ --- Forward, Relentlessly "What the heck is Ranlom?" - lunchboxssj <cite>Ranlom posted [p:906922823] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>That is not the time or place to be peacefully protesting. Do it on your own time. womp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/15/18 11:51:29 AM #11:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... I pretty much said I paid for your music, not your politics. ~ Redhat idiot Idiot doesn't understand punk . . . At least he didn't end up at a propagandhi show.... Lol. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:906922827] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>I pretty much said I paid for your music, not your politics. ~ Redhat idiot Idiot doesn't understand punk . . .</quote> At least he didn't end up at a propagandhi show.... Lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 08/15/18 11:52:35 AM #12:	lmao...dude stood up with his middle finger up for two whole songs. Also, yeah, doesn't understand punk rock. Like...lmao <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:906922876] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>lmao...dude stood up with his middle finger up for two whole songs. Also, yeah, doesn't understand punk rock. Like...lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 08/15/18 11:53:10 AM #13:	I cannot possibly wrap my head around being a Republican and listening to punk music. Did he not ever actually consider any lyrics? <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:906922901] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>I cannot possibly wrap my head around being a Republican and listening to punk music. Did he not ever actually consider any lyrics?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 08/15/18 11:53:18 AM #14:	eston posted... This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock Maybe he was one of the morons on here who think conservatives are the new counter culture <cite>BWLurker posted [p:906922908] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock</quote> Maybe he was one of the morons on here who think conservatives are the new counter culture</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 08/15/18 11:54:26 AM #15:	not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave? --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:906922966] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corman321 08/15/18 11:54:41 AM #16:	dameon_reaper posted... lmao...dude stood up with his middle finger up for two whole songs. Also, yeah, doesn't understand punk rock. Like...lmao Eh I've flicked off bands for a long time too. It's a pretty common thing. I've never heard of them losing their mind and assaulting someone in the crowd for it. <cite>Corman321 posted [p:906922979] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>dameon_reaper posted...</cite> <quote>lmao...dude stood up with his middle finger up for two whole songs. Also, yeah, doesn't understand punk rock. Like...lmao</quote> Eh I've flicked off bands for a long time too. It's a pretty common thing. I've never heard of them losing their mind and assaulting someone in the crowd for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/15/18 11:55:36 AM #17:	Payzmaykr posted... The democrats didnt used to be like this. Not sure what happened to them... Punk concerns have always been wild and violent. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:906923027] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Payzmaykr posted...</cite> <quote>The democrats didnt used to be like this. Not sure what happened to them...</quote> Punk concerns have always been wild and violent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ANewLeaf 08/15/18 11:56:07 AM #19:	As opposed to what the Sex Pistols would do? At least he didn't get a bass over the skull. <cite>ANewLeaf posted [p:906923064] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>As opposed to what the Sex Pistols would do? At least he didn't get a bass over the skull.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kolibri X 08/15/18 11:56:37 AM #20:	What kind of man spits on another man? I guess 60 year olds in eyeliner who still play punk rock. --- Platinum GameFAQs Member https://imgur.com/VgwI8qO <cite>Kolibri X posted [p:906923085] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>What kind of man spits on another man? I guess 60 year olds in eyeliner who still play punk rock.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/15/18 11:57:05 AM #21:	"I paid for your music not your politics" dude you're at a fucking punk show the music and the politics are the same thing --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:906923114] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>"I paid for your music not your politics" dude you're at a fucking punk show the music and the politics are the same thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 08/15/18 11:57:11 AM #22:	ArchiePeck posted... I cannot possibly wrap my head around being a Republican and listening to punk music. Did he not ever actually consider any lyrics? the idea that paul ryan loves RATM still tickles me --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:906923122] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>ArchiePeck posted...</cite> <quote>I cannot possibly wrap my head around being a Republican and listening to punk music. Did he not ever actually consider any lyrics?</quote> the idea that paul ryan loves RATM still tickles me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorbidFaithless 08/15/18 11:58:20 AM #23:	Corman321 posted... dameon_reaper posted... lmao...dude stood up with his middle finger up for two whole songs. Also, yeah, doesn't understand punk rock. Like...lmao Eh I've flicked off bands for a long time too. It's a pretty common thing. I've never heard of them losing their mind and assaulting someone in the crowd for it. You're making that up. Like...no one does that. --- walk like thunder <cite>MorbidFaithless posted [p:906923185] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corman321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dameon_reaper posted...</cite> <quote>lmao...dude stood up with his middle finger up for two whole songs. Also, yeah, doesn't understand punk rock. Like...lmao</quote> Eh I've flicked off bands for a long time too. It's a pretty common thing. I've never heard of them losing their mind and assaulting someone in the crowd for it.</quote> You're making that up. Like...no one does that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pauIie 08/15/18 11:59:36 AM #25:	MorbidFaithless posted... You're making that up. Like...no one does that. depends on the artist. some bands and crowds will flip each other off. this isn't that, though. --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:906923251] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>MorbidFaithless posted...</cite> <quote>You're making that up. Like...no one does that.</quote> depends on the artist. some bands and crowds will flip each other off. this isn't that, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/15/18 12:01:50 PM #26:	Idiot probably bought into the claim that "conservatism is the new punk/counter culture!!" lmao. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:906923370] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>Idiot probably bought into the claim that "conservatism is the new punk/counter culture!!" lmao.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 08/15/18 12:01:58 PM #27:	fenderbender321 posted... pauIie posted... not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave? Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase. You're delusional. Before this post and clearly after this post. Punk rock is an expression...if you don't know what expression that is, you don't know what punk rock is. <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:906923375] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave?</quote> Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase.</quote> You're delusional. Before this post and clearly after this post. Punk rock is an expression...if you don't know what expression that is, you don't know what punk rock is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 08/15/18 12:02:19 PM #28:	lol @ you guys hating on the Trump fan. If the singer had any kind of restraint this wouldn't have happened. Trump guy bout to get paid! --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter World (xbone), H1Z1 (ps4), Earthbound (snes) <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:906923400] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>lol @ you guys hating on the Trump fan. If the singer had any kind of restraint this wouldn't have happened. Trump guy bout to get paid!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/15/18 12:03:12 PM #29:	TIL that playing Punk Rock music gives you the right to assault someone else. Another teaching moment from CE. --- "No it doesn't. Abortion has never killed a single baby." - Russian Rocket <cite>Caution999 posted [p:906923434] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>TIL that playing Punk Rock music gives you the right to assault someone else. Another teaching moment from CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corman321 08/15/18 12:03:56 PM #31:	pauIie posted... MorbidFaithless posted... You're making that up. Like...no one does that. depends on the artist. some bands and crowds will flip each other off. this isn't that, though. Yeah <cite>Corman321 posted [p:906923478] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MorbidFaithless posted...</cite> <quote>You're making that up. Like...no one does that.</quote> depends on the artist. some bands and crowds will flip each other off. this isn't that, though.</quote> Yeah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 08/15/18 12:04:09 PM #32:	fenderbender321 posted... pauIie posted... not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave? Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase. he paid for their live act. this is a part of their live act. he got their live act. --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:906923486] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave?</quote> Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase.</quote> he paid for their live act. this is a part of their live act. he got their live act.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiralDrift 08/15/18 12:05:05 PM #33:	eston posted... This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock There's always been lots of right-wing punk. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:906923541] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock</quote> There's always been lots of right-wing punk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/15/18 12:05:46 PM #34:	Caution999 posted... TIL that playing Punk Rock music gives you the right to assault someone else. Another teaching moment from CE. Of course it doesn't give him a right, but going to a punk show and complaining about it being political is dumb as shit --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:906923577] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>TIL that playing Punk Rock music gives you the right to assault someone else. Another teaching moment from CE.</quote> Of course it doesn't give him a right, but going to a punk show and complaining about it being political is dumb as shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/15/18 12:06:12 PM #35:	SpiralDrift posted... eston posted... This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock There's always been lots of right-wing punk. Which is still political --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:906923604] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>SpiralDrift posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock</quote> There's always been lots of right-wing punk.</quote> Which is still political</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/15/18 12:07:18 PM #36:	fenderbender321 posted... pauIie posted... not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave? Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase. Punk has been political since its inception. It's part of the reason for its existence. To expect a social distortion show not to be at least somewhat political is to showcase a total ignorance about the music and band you're going to see. If the dude was such a big fan how in the fuck he didn't expect anything political is beyond me. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:906923656] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave?</quote> Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase.</quote> Punk has been political since its inception. It's part of the reason for its existence. To expect a social distortion show not to be at least somewhat political is to showcase a total ignorance about the music and band you're going to see. If the dude was such a big fan how in the fuck he didn't expect anything political is beyond me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 08/15/18 12:07:50 PM #37:	The lead singer of social distortion is a moron in this situation. As much as I hate Trump and his performance in office I can't condone the use of violence. The Trump supporter was protesting in a non-violent way. There is a lot of victim blaming going on in this topic. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:906923690] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>The lead singer of social distortion is a moron in this situation. As much as I hate Trump and his performance in office I can't condone the use of violence. The Trump supporter was protesting in a non-violent way. There is a lot of victim blaming going on in this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/15/18 12:08:05 PM #38:	eston posted... SpiralDrift posted... eston posted... This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock There's always been lots of right-wing punk. Which is still political Yeah but the're unabashed hypocrites so "I just want the music" only applies when the performer is leftist. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:906923708] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SpiralDrift posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock</quote> There's always been lots of right-wing punk.</quote> Which is still political</quote> Yeah but the're unabashed hypocrites so "I just want the music" only applies when the performer is leftist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 08/15/18 12:09:15 PM #39:	take awayyyyy take awayyyy take away this ball and chain <cite>Romes187 posted [p:906923760] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>take awayyyyy take awayyyy take away this ball and chain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 08/15/18 12:09:25 PM #41:	pauIie posted... ArchiePeck posted... I cannot possibly wrap my head around being a Republican and listening to punk music. Did he not ever actually consider any lyrics? the idea that paul ryan loves RATM still tickles me Hahahah are you serious? --- Member of The Fam <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:906923770] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ArchiePeck posted...</cite> <quote>I cannot possibly wrap my head around being a Republican and listening to punk music. Did he not ever actually consider any lyrics?</quote> the idea that paul ryan loves RATM still tickles me</quote> Hahahah are you serious?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 08/15/18 12:09:46 PM #42:	im more surprised social d is still performing good for them <cite>Romes187 posted [p:906923790] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote>im more surprised social d is still performing good for them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corman321 08/15/18 12:10:25 PM #43:	CanuckCowboy posted... fenderbender321 posted... pauIie posted... not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave? Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase. Punk has been political since its inception. It's part of the reason for its existence. To expect a social distortion show not to be at least somewhat political is to showcase a total ignorance about the music and band you're going to see. If the dude was such a big fan how in the fuck he didn't expect anything political is beyond me. I think you're missing the forest for the trees. The fan probably knew that they were political, which is why he was doing his little silent protest at that point. He still can be a fan of the other things they do. I can be a fan of Robert De Niro's acting but then boo him when he starts mouthing off about Trump. Doesn't give him a right to jump out and start beating on me. <cite>Corman321 posted [p:906923836] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave?</quote> Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase.</quote> Punk has been political since its inception. It's part of the reason for its existence. To expect a social distortion show not to be at least somewhat political is to showcase a total ignorance about the music and band you're going to see. If the dude was such a big fan how in the fuck he didn't expect anything political is beyond me.</quote> I think you're missing the forest for the trees. The fan probably knew that they were political, which is why he was doing his little silent protest at that point. He still can be a fan of the other things they do. I can be a fan of Robert De Niro's acting but then boo him when he starts mouthing off about Trump. Doesn't give him a right to jump out and start beating on me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/15/18 12:10:33 PM #44:	Payzmaykr posted... Hahahah are you serious? When Tom Morello found out, he told him that he's the machine they're raging against. lmao. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:906923852] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Payzmaykr posted...</cite> <quote>Hahahah are you serious?</quote> When Tom Morello found out, he told him that he's the machine they're raging against. lmao.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpsycho 08/15/18 12:10:46 PM #45:	ArchiePeck posted... I cannot possibly wrap my head around being a Republican and listening to punk music. Did he not ever actually consider any lyrics? SMaL was into punk music iirc which never made sense to me. --- https://imgur.com/ZrnUI3A ~drawn by United_World <cite>hyperpsycho posted [p:906923874] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>ArchiePeck posted...</cite> <quote>I cannot possibly wrap my head around being a Republican and listening to punk music. Did he not ever actually consider any lyrics?</quote> SMaL was into punk music iirc which never made sense to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/15/18 12:10:48 PM #46:	Kombucha posted... The lead singer of social distortion is a moron in this situation. As much as I hate Trump and his performance in office I can't condone the use of violence. The Trump supporter was protesting in a non-violent way. There is a lot of victim blaming going on in this topic. Look again. No one's saying he deserved to be spit on or assaulted. He's still an idiot. Also there are very few times where going to a concert and flipping off / deriding / the band is a good idea. Especially when it's a band people are passionate about. He's the victim and Ness is at fault. But he acted in a way that most people would realize is also pretty fucking dumb. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:906923877] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>The lead singer of social distortion is a moron in this situation. As much as I hate Trump and his performance in office I can't condone the use of violence. The Trump supporter was protesting in a non-violent way. There is a lot of victim blaming going on in this topic.</quote> Look again. No one's saying he deserved to be spit on or assaulted. He's still an idiot. Also there are very few times where going to a concert and flipping off / deriding / the band is a good idea. Especially when it's a band people are passionate about. He's the victim and Ness is at fault. But he acted in a way that most people would realize is also pretty fucking dumb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 08/15/18 12:11:02 PM #47:	Caution999 posted... TIL that playing Punk Rock music gives you the right to assault someone else. Another teaching moment from CE. Like fender, you're delusional. No one's saying he was in the right, people just think the guy is stupid for thinking that punk isn't some political agenda in musical form and not realizing it through lyrics. Of course because people think the guy is stupid, everyone agrees that the frontman should have hurt him. yeah, that's what you got from this. <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:906923884] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>TIL that playing Punk Rock music gives you the right to assault someone else. Another teaching moment from CE.</quote> Like fender, you're delusional. No one's saying he was in the right, people just think the guy is stupid for thinking that punk isn't some political agenda in musical form and not realizing it through lyrics. Of course because people think the guy is stupid, everyone agrees that the frontman should have hurt him. yeah, that's what you got from this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiralDrift 08/15/18 12:11:09 PM #48:	eston posted... SpiralDrift posted... eston posted... This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock There's always been lots of right-wing punk. Which is still political Sure. It just seems like some people are under the impression it's strictly left-wing. To be fair, conflict between the band and the audience has always been a part of punk, too. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:906923889] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SpiralDrift posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock</quote> There's always been lots of right-wing punk.</quote> Which is still political</quote> Sure. It just seems like some people are under the impression it's strictly left-wing. To be fair, conflict between the band and the audience has always been a part of punk, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 08/15/18 12:12:26 PM #50:	Corman321 posted... CanuckCowboy posted... fenderbender321 posted... pauIie posted... not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave? Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase. Punk has been political since its inception. It's part of the reason for its existence. To expect a social distortion show not to be at least somewhat political is to showcase a total ignorance about the music and band you're going to see. If the dude was such a big fan how in the fuck he didn't expect anything political is beyond me. I think you're missing the forest for the trees. The fan probably knew that they were political, which is why he was doing his little silent protest at that point. He still can be a fan of the other things they do. I can be a fan of Robert De Niro's acting but then boo him when he starts mouthing off about Trump. Doesn't give him a right to jump out and start beating on me. I'm not missing anything. The politics are part of a punk show. Right or left. Paying to see something you know you wont like and then flipping off the person everyone else is there to see is not reasonable or intelligent behavior. Never said it gave Ness a right to attack him physically. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:906923961] in Punk rock ... [t:76905206]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corman321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show. but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave?</quote> Because he paid for their music. Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase.</quote> Punk has been political since its inception. It's part of the reason for its existence. To expect a social distortion show not to be at least somewhat political is to showcase a total ignorance about the music and band you're going to see. If the dude was such a big fan how in the fuck he didn't expect anything political is beyond me.</quote> I think you're missing the forest for the trees. The fan probably knew that they were political, which is why he was doing his little silent protest at that point. He still can be a fan of the other things they do. I can be a fan of Robert De Niro's acting but then boo him when he starts mouthing off about Trump. Doesn't give him a right to jump out and start beating on me.</quote> I'm not missing anything. The politics are part of a punk show. Right or left. Paying to see something you know you wont like and then flipping off the person everyone else is there to see is not reasonable or intelligent behavior. Never said it gave Ness a right to attack him physically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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