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darkjedilink
08/15/18 4:16:55 PM
#151:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Womp_Womp

Idiot shouldn't be at a punk rock show if he's gonna get butt hurt over words.

Honestly idiots shouldnt be at the front of a punk rock show if theyre gonna complain about getting hit

Idiots shouldn't be in a punk band if they're going to get butthurt by a middle finger.
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Funbazooka
08/15/18 4:18:42 PM
#152:


AmpV2 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Democrats are now associated with hate and intolerance.


I very much hate and am intolerant of racists, ignoramuses, bigots, homophobes, etc. I like being associated with hating these people.

Yeah, that's your way of dehumanizing people who simply like Trump.
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eston
08/15/18 4:20:32 PM
#153:


darkjedilink posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Womp_Womp

Idiot shouldn't be at a punk rock show if he's gonna get butt hurt over words.

Honestly idiots shouldnt be at the front of a punk rock show if theyre gonna complain about getting hit

Idiots shouldn't be in a punk band if they're going to get butthurt by a middle finger.

Nah I think it's okay to be mad at someone for disrespecting you during your performance. I doubt many punks would put up with that
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Zeeak4444
08/15/18 4:21:01 PM
#154:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Womp_Womp

Idiot shouldn't be at a punk rock show if he's gonna get butt hurt over words.

Honestly idiots shouldnt be at the front of a punk rock show if theyre gonna complain about getting hit


That too. I've come away bloodied from more than a few times. I guess it's a little different if it's malicious (only one of my instances was) but no sympathy from me.

Like you shouldn't fuck around with rap shows and punk rock like that if you're not ready to get in the thick of it.
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AmpV2
08/15/18 4:21:03 PM
#155:


Funbazooka posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Democrats are now associated with hate and intolerance.


I very much hate and am intolerant of racists, ignoramuses, bigots, homophobes, etc. I like being associated with hating these people.

Yeah, that's your way of dehumanizing people who simply like Trump.


It's my way of saying fuck them. Nobody should tolerate a Trump supporter.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 4:21:54 PM
#156:


darkjedilink posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Womp_Womp

Idiot shouldn't be at a punk rock show if he's gonna get butt hurt over words.

Honestly idiots shouldnt be at the front of a punk rock show if theyre gonna complain about getting hit

Idiots shouldn't be in a punk band if they're going to get butthurt by a middle finger.

How many punk bands have you been in?
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CanuckCowboy
08/15/18 4:22:59 PM
#157:


SKing_Hellebuyck posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Womp_Womp

Idiot shouldn't be at a punk rock show if he's gonna get butt hurt over words.

Honestly idiots shouldnt be at the front of a punk rock show if theyre gonna complain about getting hit


Well generally not by the singer anyways. But that's a valid point really. In you're in the mix in the thick of it generally speaking you're gonna take a few lumps. I could see social distortion shows being more chill though. This one had to be for him to maintain the double finger for 2 songs.

Corman321 posted...
pauIie posted...
Corman321 posted...
pauIie posted...
you are free to criticize the show, or leave the show, or never attend their shows again. but you do not get to tell the band what to do.

this goes the other way. i don't get to go to a kanye show and tell him he can't talk pro trump during his show.


So if a Trump hater was standing there in the front row flicking off Kanye, would Kanye be justified in assaulting him?


He would not be justified imo


Right, of course he wouldn't. So why are so many in this topic trying to justify this?


Except most people aren't. Very few actually are and the most vocal one's clearly a troll account.
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EnragedSlith
08/15/18 4:22:59 PM
#158:


What kind of vagina whines about taking a hit at a punk show
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CanuckCowboy
08/15/18 4:24:05 PM
#159:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
darkjedilink posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
@Womp_Womp

Idiot shouldn't be at a punk rock show if he's gonna get butt hurt over words.

Honestly idiots shouldnt be at the front of a punk rock show if theyre gonna complain about getting hit

Idiots shouldn't be in a punk band if they're going to get butthurt by a middle finger.

How many punk bands have you been in?


More's I'm sure nothing would've came of a simple middle finger.... Holding it through two songs is some seriously obnoxious jerkoff behaviour.
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Zeeak4444
08/15/18 4:25:31 PM
#160:


"Mauldin says while Ness acted unprofessionally, music fans should understand controversy is part of the punk rock culture.

If youre that into politics, dont put yourself in a situation where it could become a problem for you, said Mauldin."

My thoughts exactly. Also don't say shit like "I paid for your music not your politics" if you're gonna spend two songs dwelling over it. Obviously politics meant more than music to that fan.
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Funbazooka
08/15/18 4:25:35 PM
#161:


AmpV2 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Democrats are now associated with hate and intolerance.


I very much hate and am intolerant of racists, ignoramuses, bigots, homophobes, etc. I like being associated with hating these people.

Yeah, that's your way of dehumanizing people who simply like Trump.


It's my way of saying fuck them. Nobody should tolerate a Trump supporter.

Thanks for backing up my point. I'm not sure how that helps your side's optics... but thanks.
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AmpV2
08/15/18 4:28:23 PM
#162:


Funbazooka posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Democrats are now associated with hate and intolerance.


I very much hate and am intolerant of racists, ignoramuses, bigots, homophobes, etc. I like being associated with hating these people.

Yeah, that's your way of dehumanizing people who simply like Trump.


It's my way of saying fuck them. Nobody should tolerate a Trump supporter.

Thanks for backing up my point. I'm not sure how that helps your side's optics... but thanks.


I don't care how you view my side, if you support the indecency in the white house your opinion and that of anybody who agrees with you means literally nothing to me. You are a minority of the population, shrinking daily.
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CanuckCowboy
08/15/18 4:28:32 PM
#163:


Zeeak4444 posted...
"Mauldin says while Ness acted unprofessionally, music fans should understand controversy is part of the punk rock culture.

If youre that into politics, dont put yourself in a situation where it could become a problem for you, said Mauldin."

My thoughts exactly. Also don't say shit like "I paid for your music not your politics" if you're gonna spend two songs dwelling over it. Obviously politics meant more than music to that fan.


Exactly. The kind of person who chooses to focus on "he said a thing I disagree with" and he as miserable as possible instead of ignoring it and enjoying the music of a band he's supposedly a longtime fan of is a pretty shitty person. You're just hoping to be offended.

But again it doesn't mean he should be spit on etc.

It's just that anyone who knows real punk knows that shit happens at a show regardless.

Part of me thinks it's sorta comparable to fights in the NHL tbh.
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CanuckCowboy
08/15/18 4:29:06 PM
#164:


Funbazooka posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
AmpV2 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Democrats are now associated with hate and intolerance.


I very much hate and am intolerant of racists, ignoramuses, bigots, homophobes, etc. I like being associated with hating these people.

Yeah, that's your way of dehumanizing people who simply like Trump.


It's my way of saying fuck them. Nobody should tolerate a Trump supporter.

Thanks for backing up my point. I'm not sure how that helps your side's optics... but thanks.


I like how you just want to take this guy seriously cause it backs up yer views of the left.
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eston
08/15/18 4:31:03 PM
#165:


CanuckCowboy posted...
Part of me thinks it's sorta comparable to fights in the NHL tbh.

"I went to a fight, and a punk show broke out!" lol
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CanuckCowboy
08/15/18 4:31:48 PM
#166:


eston posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
Part of me thinks it's sorta comparable to fights in the NHL tbh.

"I went to a fight, and a punk show broke out!" lol


Well played.
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L0Z
08/15/18 4:31:55 PM
#167:


Fuck mikeness attacked someone?
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Funbazooka
08/15/18 4:38:05 PM
#168:


AmpV2 posted...
I don't care how you view my side,

It isn't about me.

It looks bad to people who are more centrist and not devoted to either side. They won't want to have anything to do with unhinged people.
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Dash_Harber
08/15/18 4:41:06 PM
#169:


I love Social Distortion.

Anyway, he had no way of knowing for sure he was a trump supporter. This is literally why he attacked him;
"I stood pretty much with my silent protest with my middle finger up for the next two songs.


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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/15/18 4:59:39 PM
#170:


Funbazooka posted...
AmpV2 posted...
I don't care how you view my side,

It isn't about me.

It looks bad to people who are more centrist and not devoted to either side. They won't want to have anything to do with unhinged people.


They're both unhinged. The musician is unhinged for punching a dude like that especially when he's obviously being recorded by multiple people... and the punch recipient is unhinged for being such a butthurt snowflake cuckbaby that he'd give the finger for that long just "waaahh you said mean thing about trump and hurt is feelings and by extension, mine as well"
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TheCyborgNinja
08/15/18 5:25:03 PM
#171:


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Funbazooka
08/15/18 5:31:18 PM
#172:


cuckbaby
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Sephiroth1288
08/15/18 5:33:36 PM
#173:


eston posted...
This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock

Sounds more like the frontman doesn't understand punk if he can't handle getting the middle finger.

They're both unhinged. The musician is unhinged for punching a dude like that especially when he's obviously being recorded by multiple people... and the punch recipient is unhinged for being such a butthurt snowflake cuckbaby that he'd give the finger for that long just "waaahh you said mean thing about trump and hurt is feelings and by extension, mine as well"

Imagine trying to equate giving someone the middle finger with assault and battery. Imagine thinking those two things are the same level of unhinged in any way.
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FursonaNonGrata
08/15/18 5:38:52 PM
#174:


fenderbender321 posted...
pauIie posted...
not that i condone the beating. he should have just ejected him from the show.

but flipping off the band for two songs. "i paid for your music not your politics." then...how about you leave?


Because he paid for their music.

Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to listen to music and not get into politics? Even if it's a punk rock scene...it's really stupid that some damn fine music has to be coupled with something that's going to alienate half of your potential fanbase.


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Sephiroth1288
08/15/18 5:42:34 PM
#175:


Even punk bands today are too fragile to be able to handle getting the middle finger. They don't seem very punk to me.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/15/18 5:44:33 PM
#176:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
eston posted...
This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock

Sounds more like the frontman doesn't understand punk if he can't handle getting the middle finger.

They're both unhinged. The musician is unhinged for punching a dude like that especially when he's obviously being recorded by multiple people... and the punch recipient is unhinged for being such a butthurt snowflake cuckbaby that he'd give the finger for that long just "waaahh you said mean thing about trump and hurt is feelings and by extension, mine as well"

Imagine trying to equate giving someone the middle finger with assault and battery. Imagine thinking those two things are the same level of unhinged in any way.


Imagine calling nazis left wing over and over and getting put in purgatory 6 times for it.
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Funbazooka
08/15/18 5:44:48 PM
#177:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Even punk bands today are too fragile to be able to handle getting the middle finger. They don't seem very punk to me.

Authoritarians literally hijacked the punk aesthetic. That's what SJW fashion is.
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pauIie
08/15/18 5:44:58 PM
#178:


snap i didn't know ce was full of so many punk experts
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FursonaNonGrata
08/15/18 5:45:22 PM
#179:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Even punk bands today are too fragile to be able to handle getting the middle finger. They don't seem very punk to me.


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Sephiroth1288
08/15/18 5:46:05 PM
#180:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Imagine calling nazis left wing over and over and getting put in purgatory 6 times for it.

Imagine getting burned so hard that you need to deflect to other topics which you also had no answer for.
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Pepys Monster
08/15/18 5:50:54 PM
#181:


Liberals are literally in here defending this assault.
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Sephiroth1288
08/15/18 5:52:26 PM
#182:


Pepys Monster posted...
Liberals are literally in here defending this assault.

They need to defend assault because the media keeps telling them that it's ok when their side does it.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 5:55:15 PM
#183:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
eston posted...
This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock

Sounds more like the frontman doesn't understand punk if he can't handle getting the middle finger.

Why is it idiot conservatives are always trying to convince anyone that they know whats punk?
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DarkTransient
08/15/18 5:55:30 PM
#184:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I pretty much said I paid for your music, not your politics. ~ Redhat idiot

Idiot doesn't understand punk . . .


As much as I think violence over political disagreements is ridiculous... Anarchy_Juiblex very, very much has a point here.
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Dash_Harber
08/15/18 5:59:16 PM
#185:


Why is this even an argument.

Yes, violence is wrong, especially when it's used in place of political discourse.

No, Ness had no way of knowing he was a Trump supporter, even if he might suspect it, so maybe this is more about the fact that he was flipping off the lead singer for two songs and not an attack on a Trump supporter. Literally, this is just another Trump supporter with a persecution complex. They want to be persecuted enough so they can turn around and persecute someone else and act like it's fair play.
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CanuckCowboy
08/15/18 6:11:19 PM
#186:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
eston posted...
This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock

Sounds more like the frontman doesn't understand punk if he can't handle getting the middle finger.

Why is it idiot conservatives are always trying to convince anyone that they know whats punk?


To be fair there's some super extreme alt right punk and has been forever. Look at romper stomper. Minor threat could probly be enjoyed by a lot of the alt right too tbh.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 6:14:12 PM
#187:


CanuckCowboy posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
eston posted...
This guy sounds like he really doesn't understand punk rock

Sounds more like the frontman doesn't understand punk if he can't handle getting the middle finger.

Why is it idiot conservatives are always trying to convince anyone that they know whats punk?


To be fair there's some super extreme alt right punk and has been forever. Look at romper stomper. Minor threat could probly be enjoyed by a lot of the alt right too tbh.

Yeah but it sure as hell aint those people ITT.
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Bloodmoon77
08/15/18 6:15:03 PM
#188:


Fair next. Deserved it for giving the singer the finger for a couple songs.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/15/18 6:23:57 PM
#189:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Imagine calling nazis left wing over and over and getting put in purgatory 6 times for it.

Imagine getting burned so hard that you need to deflect to other topics which you also had no answer for.


When it comes to certain users, and you are at the top of the list, I always, always take the "attack the person, not the argument" approach because I know how rustled your jimmies get, as that whole "attack the argument, not the person" thing is silly, generic, broken-record lemming logic that only narrow-minded group-thinkers subscribe to.

Every single time you've ever responded to me, you've done so with the utmost ineptitude in interpreting the intentions behind the post you're quoting. I don't have this issue with others, so it's not caused on my end. You just fail to read the person behind the words. For that reason, serious discussion is out of the question. I've tried in the past, when I've felt particularly patient and/or have partially agreed on some of your points, enough to warrant acknowledgment, but even then, you actively neglect to yourself acknowledge that agreement because it hasn't been received in the form of the transparent, child-minded gotchas that you actively seek.

I'm honest about my dishonesty, and you are in denial of yours. I expect you'll respond by calling me obsessed or acting as though this is a rant and that you have triggered me. Those are the most commonly called plays in the playbook that you and your ilk live by, so I say this regardless of that expectation... this is about you. It's not about your argument. Your argument doesn't matter. This incident doesn't spark any emotions for me like it seems to be doing with others here. Both of those knuckleheads could have easily prevented it from happening, and it's not really a big deal, so neither deserves my sympathy. If it had escalated well beyond this point, I would take a more serious approach, and if I was approaching it seriously, your argument would not even exist and you wouldn't have necessarily even quoted what I would have been likely to post. I do want to respect you, and I would have serious discussions with you in that case, but that can't happen if you continue to be too stubborn to learn how to earn it. If you did, with it would also likely earn respect from others who take similar approaches to you as I do. That isn't what will happen though. You'll continue to do what you do, starting with some attempt to affix some other misguided gotcha onto this post just like you did with the last one. Sad!
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Funbazooka
08/15/18 6:25:34 PM
#190:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
ineptitude in interpreting the intentions

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Funbazooka
08/15/18 6:27:38 PM
#191:


Ineptitude in interpreting the intentions is not only intolerable but also intentionally inaccurate!
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Sephiroth1288
08/15/18 6:28:19 PM
#192:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
When it comes to certain users, and you are at the top of the list, I always, always take the "attack the person, not the argument"

So you admit you're trolling AND that you rely on the lowest form of argument. And what's more, you wrote an entire essay trying to justify why you're a troll.

Who's jimmies are rustled here?
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Funbazooka
08/15/18 6:29:10 PM
#193:


It's also inadvisable, for that matter.
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CircleOfManias
08/15/18 6:30:03 PM
#194:


On the one hand, he shouldn't have punched him, but on the other hand, he did deserve to be punched.
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DD Divine
08/15/18 7:02:17 PM
#195:


Trump supporter- since when did punk rock get so political
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Corman321
08/15/18 7:04:43 PM
#196:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
When it comes to certain users, and you are at the top of the list, I always, always take the "attack the person, not the argument"

So you admit you're trolling AND that you rely on the lowest form of argument. And what's more, you wrote an entire essay trying to justify why you're a troll.

Who's jimmies are rustled here?


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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 7:08:18 PM
#197:


DD Divine posted...
Trump supporter- since when did punk rock get so political

Guys trust me I know punk rock and its never violent, these guys are so soft for taking action when someone is giving them shit. Real punks would never do something like that.
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eston
08/15/18 7:27:11 PM
#198:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Sounds more like the frontman doesn't understand punk if he can't handle getting the middle finger.

It's weird that you think the punk rock thing to do is turn the other cheek when someone is staring you down and flipping you off for several minutes straight. Dude obviously had a problem, the singer called him up on stage, they yelled at each other, he got punched. The only thing about this scenario that isn't normal for a punk show is the Trump supporter
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Sephiroth1288
08/15/18 7:29:32 PM
#199:


eston posted...
It's weird that you think the punk rock thing to do is turn the other cheek when someone is staring you down and flipping you off for several minutes straight.

I thought the punk rock thing to do would be to give the middle finger back, not to get all buttflustered and assault people who hurt your feelings
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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 7:31:58 PM
#200:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
eston posted...
It's weird that you think the punk rock thing to do is turn the other cheek when someone is staring you down and flipping you off for several minutes straight.

I thought the pink rock thing to do would be to give the middle finger back, not to get all buttflustered

You dont know shit about punk
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