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Nelson_Mandela 08/20/18 4:18:46 PM #1: |
In terms of contest strength, it seems like every single character of value (excluding those with outside rally potential) is from a series that started in the 80s or 90s. We're almost in the 2020s now, so I figured there has to be something from a game that was first created in the past 2 decades.
The strongest I can think of offhand would be... Kratos? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 08/20/18 4:19:39 PM #2: |
Off the very top of my head, Sans.
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 4:20:55 PM #3: |
Shepard
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Nelson_Mandela 08/20/18 4:24:45 PM #4: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Shepard Shepard was the only other one I could think of that might cross that "elite" boundary. Though I think Kratos is stronger given the latest GoW release. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mewtwo59 08/20/18 4:26:14 PM #5: |
Could Nathan Drake get there with a decent boost from Uncharted 4?
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swordz9 08/20/18 4:26:43 PM #6: |
No because the only people still coming here regularly are in their late 30s/40s and dont resonate with many characters from the last 10-15 years or so
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 4:26:46 PM #7: |
Shepard's probably not as strong as he used to be either now that the series is on life support.
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 4:27:27 PM #8: |
Mewtwo59 posted...
Could Nathan Drake get there with a decent boost from Uncharted 4? It'd have to be a pretty big boost because he was just a little stronger than Pac-Man before UC4. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mewtwo59 08/20/18 4:28:40 PM #9: |
Oof. I forgot he was that bad.
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Dels 08/20/18 4:33:25 PM #10: |
swordz9 posted...
No because the only people still coming here regularly are in their late 30s/40s and dont resonate with many characters from the last 10-15 years or so my experience venturing out to game boards every once in a while makes me believe that's not true or... at least, hope that's not true ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zylothewolf 08/20/18 4:36:04 PM #11: |
Some random Pokemon? Bidoof?
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Arti 08/20/18 4:59:02 PM #12: |
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WazzupGenius00 08/20/18 5:10:12 PM #13: |
I don't think she'll be elite level but the new character I am most curious about is 2B
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Johnbobb 08/20/18 5:15:14 PM #14: |
Zylothewolf posted...
Some random Pokemon? This was my thought too. Lucario most likely --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 08/20/18 5:25:53 PM #15: |
Isnt Lucario pretty damn weak
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 5:27:14 PM #16: |
Lucario was weak in 2008. Who knows what he'd be worth now.
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Johnbobb 08/20/18 5:49:16 PM #17: |
was that before or after Smash?
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KCF0107 08/20/18 5:51:36 PM #18: |
2008 sounds like after Brawl to me
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Xeybozn 08/20/18 5:54:40 PM #19: |
After, and it was the only reason Lucario made the contest at all. At any rate, I seriously doubt Lucario is the strongest character of the last 15 years because he isn't even the strongest Smash character to debut in that time (that'd probably be Ike, unless one of the other FE characters is more popular now).
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wg64Z 08/20/18 5:56:39 PM #20: |
Minecraft guy?
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ScareChan 08/20/18 6:05:11 PM #21: |
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 6:18:26 PM #22: |
Xeybozn posted...
After, and it was the only reason Lucario made the contest at all. At any rate, I seriously doubt Lucario is the strongest character of the last 15 years because he isn't even the strongest Smash character to debut in that time (that'd probably be Ike, unless one of the other FE characters is more popular now). I mean Snake is the strongest character who debuted in Brawl but of all the characters who actually glean most of their strength from it, it's probably Ike, yeah maybe Meta Knight but we've never really been able to see what he's capable of because he always gets bad matchups (which is ironic considering he has no bad matchups in Brawl LOLOLOLO) --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Girugamesh 08/20/18 6:24:59 PM #23: |
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Xeybozn 08/20/18 7:28:09 PM #24: |
Smash characters created recently enough to qualify for this discussion:
Ike Lucas Lucario Alph Wii Fit Trainer Rosalina Greninja Dark Pit Lucina Robin Shulk Corrin Bayonetta Inkling Chrom Dark Samus ...Yeah, these guys are almost all fodder. I'm sure none of them are "elites" by any definition. --- Congrats to 2017 Guru champ BKSheikah! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ctes 08/20/18 7:33:58 PM #25: |
Kratos is my best bet without outside rallies.
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_SecretSquirrel 08/20/18 7:34:11 PM #26: |
wg64Z posted...
Minecraft guy? We saw Steve and Creeper in 2013, and they lost pretty much easily. Cant imagine Freddy doing much better without a rally. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! BKSheikah is the new greatone. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScareChan 08/20/18 7:35:17 PM #28: |
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ScareChan 08/20/18 7:35:48 PM #29: |
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 7:36:46 PM #30: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
Whats the definition of elite? good enough to win 2-3 rounds and get 40%+ on a Noble Nine caliber character --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 08/20/18 7:38:33 PM #31: |
What's the definition of Noble Nine caliber
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swordz9 08/20/18 7:38:41 PM #32: |
Nobody recent, but well see if KH3 hype does anything for Sora I guess.
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 7:40:45 PM #33: |
pjbasis posted...
What's the definition of Noble Nine caliber the feeling that you are doing something you have done before --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ctes 08/20/18 7:42:25 PM #34: |
swordz9 posted...
Nobody recent, but well see if KH3 hype does anything for Sora I guess. Sora isn't from the last 15 years. --- Ctesjbuvf posting on his phone. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 08/20/18 7:43:48 PM #35: |
The_Ctes posted...
swordz9 posted...Nobody recent, but well see if KH3 hype does anything for Sora I guess. I know, but barring rallies hes likely the only one who could potentially be interesting at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 08/20/18 7:44:51 PM #36: |
Dante could be if the new Devil May Cry game comes out in time
The DmC Donte drama has made people more fond I think. Guess he technically came out 17 years ago. I do think there's potential for a big boost there though --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seginustemple 08/20/18 7:47:31 PM #37: |
Torbjorn
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 7:49:31 PM #38: |
Lopen posted...
I do think there's potential for a big boost there though until he gets a Donte pic in a critical match anyway because you know that's what'll happen --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HarrietTubgirl 08/20/18 8:25:58 PM #39: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
Whats the definition of elite? Pretty much what Leon said. I'm thinking someone Zelda, Zero, Big Boss caliber. --- SephG on the go ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 08/20/18 8:29:07 PM #40: |
Geralt?
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HanOfTheNekos 08/20/18 8:37:00 PM #41: |
Overwatch
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 8:53:44 PM #42: |
I doubt anyone from Overwatch would do that well here without a rally.
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eaedwards6400 08/20/18 10:45:23 PM #43: |
Noctis is pretty well liked I feel.
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Underleveled 08/20/18 10:50:31 PM #44: |
eaedwards6400 posted...
Noctis is pretty well liked I feel. But elite? I'm guessing slightly stronger than Lightning. He will probably get a high seed this year and prove unworthy of it. --- darkx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 10:52:37 PM #45: |
Eh, I don't think he'll get a high seed this year. We're already two years removed from the game's release, so it's not like he's riding high on hype.
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HanOfTheNekos 08/20/18 11:12:26 PM #46: |
LeonhartFour posted...
I doubt anyone from Overwatch would do that well here without a rally. Probably pretty strong tho. Maybe not elite, but better than 'omg it's sgt johnson from halo' --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 08/20/18 11:14:06 PM #47: |
I think there are several stops between elite and random Halo dude.
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HanOfTheNekos 08/20/18 11:15:42 PM #48: |
True
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_SecretSquirrel 08/20/18 11:48:04 PM #49: |
The last character created that would consistently do any of the criteria mentioned in the thread is probably Auron, maybe Sora. I can't think of anyone in the fifteen years that could give a close match to Auron.
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AxemRedRanger 08/21/18 12:05:07 AM #50: |
GLaDOS circa 2013 might have been veering kind of close? 35.58% on 2013 Solid Snake was pretty ridiculous, although the close match for second might have helped her and Kefka look a bit better than they should have.
For comparison, Squall in 2010 got 40.83% on Snake (probably a marginally weaker Snake at that), and through Squall/Auron that same contest, Auron was projected to get 39.35%. Fox managed 32.97% on Snake in 2010. Doubt GLaDOS is going to look anywhere near as good this time, though. Portal did pretty poorly in 2015. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO BKSheikah NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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