Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 20: Arrival of the Brave

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Hm. I could consider giving Faye 20000 feathers that build looks funny and useful pretty often in AA
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Okay, 70 hp cleric with Panic Ploy seal is annoying because they're covering the one perfect spot for Nino.

Under the green mage and she's too far away to attack the sword next round(She fails to one shot the bow cav with what I'm running), under the knight and Marth obviously one shots her, and without DD she can't tank the bow cav after she's been in two fights.

Granted a change in moveset could be necessary. I'm also concerned because in Infernal I had the dancers tank hits... which is going to be harder since they're more than likely getting doubled in Abyssal.
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Not even sure where to begin tackling the Abyssal maps. That stuff is bananas.
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Not FEH related, but there's gonna be a direct tomorrow for Nintendo's new original IP mobile game that's co-developed by Cygames (known for Granblue Fantasy and Shadowverse).

https://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/08-29-2018/

It's releasing on Sept. 27th, which is definitely sooner than expected.
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oh i thought that wasn't getting a US release right away? i'll have to check that out.
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I managed to beat Abyssal Robin. Took a ton of tries but I always felt like I was on the right track with my team and initial positioning. Haven't managed to get that feeling from Abyssal Marth yet. :-/
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I tried it a few times, but every group I sent out there had a really bad mismatch with one or two units, I quickly found out.

Phoenixmaster1 (the madman) came up with a F2P-ish clear for Abyssal Marth, using L!Ike, Veronica, Reinhardt, and 4* Olivia, and the only somewhat unusual requirement there is having the Distant Defense Seal fully upgraded (and Drive Attack 2, if your Reinhardt isn't +Atk).
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distant defense 3 isn't so unusual. he's used it before in multiple other videos. the unusual thing is Veronica. normally he doesn't use something so few people have.
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In his review of the CYOL banner, he stated that he felt like Veronica was the best pick for the freebie and that he would probably use her in future videos, because she trivializes a lot of the single-player content.
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yeah, which i think is BS. Veronica isn't dominating the free pick nearly as much as Lyn did, and he still generally avoided using Lyn in his F2P clears. now, first tough thing that comes out, lets bust out the Veronica.
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To be fair, the jump from Infernal to Abyssal is ridiculous.
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210 orbs on the CYL banner. No 5*s. aaaaaaaaa
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Yowzers
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I may have to resort to that f2p guide for Marth's Abyssal, because I'm just not seeing how to clear it on my own. Every time I get close, I end up cornered. Either there's 3-4 red units on the map(And Nino flatout can't handle the vantage red cav) or someone else is within range of another teammate(And I can't seem to get rid of Marth's buff bots once they spawn).

Flashing Blade Nino with AoE is fun btw. Maybe I'll make that a permanent seal for her since I almost never deal with archers these days anyway.
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Wow what's your pity rate at KP and were you color sniping
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Was going for Red and White. Up to 5.5% pity rate. RIP.

Managed to beat Marth Abyssal with Donnel, Soren, Axezura, and Vanguard Ike, so I've got that going for me at least!
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Made a video of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M07iKZSVck" data-time="

The amount of 'lived or killed by 1 or 2 points of damage' in my run is ridiculous. Donnel was constantly living life on the edge.
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One thing that's really annoying about this Abyssal mode is just how long it's taking me.

When I fail it's not like turn 2 or 3 where not much happened. It's like turn 7+ after I almost cleared the map but got cornered and it's honestly exhausting.
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And right after I typed that up, I finally pulled it off.

Nino +10
Reinhardt
Performing Arts Azura
Veronica

Phew. Honestly not sure who to give the golden seashell to. Gave Nino the golden googles for her work against Abyssal Grima.

(And looking back at the screenshot I took, apparently Nino Dance Squad got all the way til the final 3 before everyone got cornered)
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Grima Abyssal beated. Used Donnel/Soren/Axezura/Lyon. For a unit with limited potential and merges, investing in Lyon has been one of my best long-term decisions. He's been useful in so many situations.
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Odin(!!!!) and Cherche get special weapons next update. (Also Celica's Ragnarok gets an upgrade)

First weapon update I'm hyped for in a long time. With Odin we're going to see the true limits of how aggressive they'll be with these special weapons. (Or, alternatively, how braindead they are to how bad Odin is)

Cherche's weapon is going to be a hard sell over Brave Axe unless it's an improved Brave Axe though. She's just so powerful with Brave Axe with that ridiculous atk.
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Can't wait for Odin to get a 12 might tome with Drive Res 2!
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Only thing that wont make odin suck is when he gets his owain alt tbh
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Hats off to everyone who cleared those Abyssal maps. I'm kind of glad the reward is just an accessory, because if it were orbs I'd still be ripping my hair out trying to clear them.

And I'm happy Odin is finally getting something. He'll need like a 22 MT weapon with a crazy effect to be even close to viable, but still. Cherche's an odd choice for a refinement since she's already so viable, but I'll be interested to see what she gets. I've run a Brave Axe set on her since skill inheritance was introduced, but there's a +10 Cherche on my friend list who runs a Handbell + DC set, and she is awesome to use in Grand Conquest.
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Odin's Grimoire is probably a legendary bladetome, which still won't make him good, unfortunately. Also hoping Cherche's new weapon is a good alternative to Brave Axe. Celica's refine may make me want to kit her out quicker, depending on how good it is. Kagero continues to wait her turn.....

I applaud you all for tackling the Abyssal maps. I would rather spend the time and headache on tackling CC's. Accessories will probably be more meaningful down the line, but I'll cross that bridge when it comes
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Legendary Bladetome could be good enough if it's really good.

Like if they wanted his initial gimmick to make sense they'd do something like make it a bladetome that doubles the effect of buffs that target him that originate from him. Then his Defiant Attack gimmick would give him +14 attack which would be incredible. He'd also be broken with Even Speed Wave but you know.

Or they could make it a bladetome that has Defiant Atk 4 or Defiant Atk 5 on it.

Or they could just make it a bladetome that has Sieglinde ability on it.

But yeah you're right they'll probably just make it a Bladetome that doesn't increase special charge, has 14 might, and be done with it, which would be boring and insufficient to make him good.
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Olwen's alt's unrefinable weapon is a legendary bladetome so it'd have to be a little better than that. Built in Brazen Atk/Spd as a special refine sounds like a good start if that was the case.
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Got combo broken by neutral Lene at 9%

I kinda want two Lenes, one to keep since dancers are good and she's cute, and one for Safeguard+, but I'm running low on orbs on the field to farm so I think this might be it since I don't wanna get stranded at an absurd pity rate or feel compelled to purchase orbs (not really enjoying this game enough at the moment to justify buying even more orbs than the monthly deal)

Also kinda wanted Kagero (and obv Robins) too so I dunno if we get an orb influx I may pull more but probably not.
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Legendary bladetome plus Sieglinde refine is probably what it's going to be. Better to keep your expectations low and be surprised than vice versa
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I don't know if those would be low expectations. Legendary Bladetome + Sieglinde Refine would be really strong actually.
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Here's Donnel/Soren/Axezura/Lyon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6E9XPb7ZzI" data-time="

Felt fitting to fight the Fell Vessel with the Demon King, even if Lyon couldn't actually engage her directly (Cancel Affinity is rough).
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Apparently I got 3500 on all four Heroes just as the daily orbs stopped. Feels nice I don't have to give a fuck about that mode until the next time.
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So the counter for the orbs started whichever day you picked to start, fuckkkkk
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So apparently a 1* Felicia + 3 Dancers can clear Abyssal Grima

https://twitter.com/marakacchi1/status/1035402415346835456?s=19

So how about that
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"Didn't expect that, didja?"
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1* Felicia is OP pls nerf
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9.5% pity rate broken by Lene. don't mind getting one copy of her, but now i'm not sure if i'll pull red again with really nothing of value other than Marth. i'll probably just stick to colorless for the last couple summons i can make.
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Forgot the monthly quests rotate in so I decided to so some more draws with the orb influx

Got +HP -Res Kagero. Unoffensive with a super boon at least. Can't really justify drawing more so that'll be it

I've had bad luck with actually getting Grimas after the first two appearances. I think I've actually regressed to around the expected amount
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Bump
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Well, Jamke is one of the easiest GHBs. It is kind of nice after dealing with the two Abyssal maps at once, but it does still seem like they don't know how to make things difficult without throwing reinforcements at us.
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Cybat posted...

it does still seem like they don't know how to make things difficult without throwing reinforcements at us.

Sure they do.

They make enemies with impossibly high stats and throw those at us.
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The last map I remember that had good difficulty that wasn't based on super high stats or reinforcements was Infernal Takumi

They can do it!
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Jamke being a breather is much appreciated.

And yeah, Takumi's GHB is my favorite for a reason. It's difficult, but it's difficult because of how the map is not because they put +20 in the enemies stats, have 3 reinforcements spawn near you every round, or both(Freaking Marth abyssal).
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Takumi's map did have reinforcements though? It was also a better designed map, but yeah, it still did have them.
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I think Lopen meant that the reinforcements weren't a crutch for difficult in that map.
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Yeah the reinforcements were reasonable and not designed to require you to instagib them every turn. Reinforcements aren't the enemy it's just spamming them that is.
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man i thought infernal Takumi was horrible. none of the other infernal maps are nearly as bad.

now abyssal that's just ridiculous.
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It's horrible if you don't like challenges I guess. As far as fair unique challenges presented in the game it may be my favorite map in the game though. Avoids the two aforementioned crutches as well as the "move your unit onto the square of doom and pray to survive" mapmaking trap. Pretty rare for a map to not use any of those three things. Feel like the Farseer Lucina map was pretty decent about this too now that I think about it.
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Yeah I don't even know what I'm going to do if Abyssal Takumi comes out.

So what team are you guys going to be on for the Voting Gauntlet tomorrow? I'll be on Veronica's.
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probably Ephraim or Roy, not sure yet
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