Poll of the Day > What's your opinion on Nintendo forcing ROM sites to shut down?

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maniaxe613 08/21/18 6:14:01 PM #1:	Should Nintendo force ROM sites to shut down? - Results (9 votes) No! These games are so old Nintendo won't profit off of them. ROM sites should do whatever they want. 55.56% (5 votes) 5 No, but instead Nintendo should reach an agreement with the sites so that they can host ROMs in fair use. 22.22% (2 votes) 2 Yes. Nintendo should shut down ROM sites without any compromise. 22.22% (2 votes) 2 I definitely do not think Nintendo should shut down ROM sites. Yes, I know there's this whole DMCA thing, but can't Nintendo work out an agreement with the ROM sites? Like maybe having Nintendo sell the ROMs or limiting ROM sites to only have games that are not DMCA claimed? I really hope Nintendo works something out with these sites. Otherwise, gaming will be doomed and it will be a long time before something is worked out. --- SAVE OUR CANADIAN SHOWS! http://www.thepetitionsite.com/389/652/180/ I will not remove my petition from my sig until there is justice! <cite>maniaxe613 posted [p:907303822] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote> Should Nintendo force ROM sites to shut down? - Results (9 votes) No! These games are so old Nintendo won't profit off of them. ROM sites should do whatever they want. 55.56% (5 votes) 5 No, but instead Nintendo should reach an agreement with the sites so that they can host ROMs in fair use. 22.22% (2 votes) 2 Yes. Nintendo should shut down ROM sites without any compromise. 22.22% (2 votes) 2 I definitely do not think Nintendo should shut down ROM sites. Yes, I know there's this whole DMCA thing, but can't Nintendo work out an agreement with the ROM sites? Like maybe having Nintendo sell the ROMs or limiting ROM sites to only have games that are not DMCA claimed? I really hope Nintendo works something out with these sites. Otherwise, gaming will be doomed and it will be a long time before something is worked out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/21/18 6:17:29 PM #2:	Do I have to have an opinion --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:907304005] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Do I have to have an opinion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/21/18 6:26:43 PM #3:	Well, it's their IPs so why shouldn't they do it? Plus you need to enforce copyrights to maintain them. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:907304557] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Well, it's their IPs so why shouldn't they do it? Plus you need to enforce copyrights to maintain them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleOSnake 08/21/18 6:28:38 PM #4:	yeah i think almost all of them have been shut down with the new rulings. --- "Kojima, the man who trolled the world" <cite>DoubleOSnake posted [p:907304665] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>yeah i think almost all of them have been shut down with the new rulings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 08/21/18 6:29:42 PM #5:	I don't like it, but I can see all sides of it. I already physically own and purchase a lot of what is out there on the Virtual Consoles (RIP, Switch bloooows for retro enthusiasts). I don't think that Nintendo is gonna put Cool Spot or Buck Bumble on Switch any time soon, so yeah, it kinda blows for people like me who don't mind spending $8 for an SNES game but then I have no way to play older, less popular titles without shelling out cash at a used store/online auction where nobody who worked on the game profits. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:907304739] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>I don't like it, but I can see all sides of it. I already physically own and purchase a lot of what is out there on the Virtual Consoles (RIP, Switch bloooows for retro enthusiasts). I don't think that Nintendo is gonna put Cool Spot or Buck Bumble on Switch any time soon, so yeah, it kinda blows for people like me who don't mind spending $8 for an SNES game but then I have no way to play older, less popular titles without shelling out cash at a used store/online auction where nobody who worked on the game profits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 08/21/18 6:33:02 PM #6:	Just another reason to dislike Nintendo. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:907304940] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Just another reason to dislike Nintendo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleOSnake 08/21/18 6:33:37 PM #7:	AllstarSniper32 posted... Just another reason to dislike Nintendo. so? i can see their side of it too --- "Kojima, the man who trolled the world" <cite>DoubleOSnake posted [p:907304982] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>Just another reason to dislike Nintendo.</quote> so? i can see their side of it too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 08/21/18 6:59:40 PM #8:	It's their IP and they're welcome to do what they want with it, but it's also a little shitty. If they had a more robust option for playing these games, that would be one thing. But the reality is, 95% of the Nintendo library is all but completely unavailable to the majority of the population. Yes, those people could go out and buy thrift shop carts and what not, but it's not like Nintendo would ever see that money. It also appears to be affecting other roms like ATARI and PS. Which is also lame. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:907306423] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>It's their IP and they're welcome to do what they want with it, but it's also a little shitty. If they had a more robust option for playing these games, that would be one thing. But the reality is, 95% of the Nintendo library is all but completely unavailable to the majority of the population. Yes, those people could go out and buy thrift shop carts and what not, but it's not like Nintendo would ever see that money. It also appears to be affecting other roms like ATARI and PS. Which is also lame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 08/21/18 7:03:53 PM #9:	I think it's kind of silly that they're going after this for old games where they are unlikely to make much profit, but it's their right to do so. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:907306684] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>I think it's kind of silly that they're going after this for old games where they are unlikely to make much profit, but it's their right to do so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleOSnake 08/21/18 7:06:25 PM #10:	They want people to buy the nes and snes classics. That's what they want. --- "Kojima, the man who trolled the world" <cite>DoubleOSnake posted [p:907306846] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>They want people to buy the nes and snes classics. That's what they want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/21/18 7:45:46 PM #11:	I get the fact they don't want people profiting from their work or potentially spoiling their name, but their methods are outdated and they need to realize that emulation serves an important purpose through preservation. Nin has the opportunity to catalog so many games on their digital store but won't. They need to find an appropriate middle ground. I mean Nin of all companies has a HUGE portion of important gaming history. Innovative, generation-defining games. We can't lose that stuff. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:907309212] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>I get the fact they don't want people profiting from their work or potentially spoiling their name, but their methods are outdated and they need to realize that emulation serves an important purpose through preservation. Nin has the opportunity to catalog so many games on their digital store but won't. They need to find an appropriate middle ground. I mean Nin of all companies has a HUGE portion of important gaming history. Innovative, generation-defining games. We can't lose that stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Syntheticon 08/21/18 7:54:37 PM #12:	They aren't making a profit (or attempting to, most of these titles are just gathering dust) so they should be left to operate as they are. The fair use system is a good idea but in reality it would never work-Nintendo would only allow this under their own distribution platform or a licensing deal, neither of which can be done for free by any of the existing sites so they would end up having to charge for them. I still think that if any of these sites could get the money together to take this to court then it would finally create a fair user policy on ROMs as so many of these companies aren't even trying to make money of the games in question so they can't make a realistic claim of damages/send C&Ds. --- Mod me? You don't even know me! <cite>Syntheticon posted [p:907309725] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>They aren't making a profit (or attempting to, most of these titles are just gathering dust) so they should be left to operate as they are. The fair use system is a good idea but in reality it would never work-Nintendo would only allow this under their own distribution platform or a licensing deal, neither of which can be done for free by any of the existing sites so they would end up having to charge for them. I still think that if any of these sites could get the money together to take this to court then it would finally create a fair user policy on ROMs as so many of these companies aren't even trying to make money of the games in question so they can't make a realistic claim of damages/send C&Ds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleOSnake 08/21/18 7:56:42 PM #13:	no cause nintendo already has the snes and nes classics that they want people to buy --- "Kojima, the man who trolled the world" <cite>DoubleOSnake posted [p:907309855] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>no cause nintendo already has the snes and nes classics that they want people to buy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sveksii 08/21/18 8:03:35 PM #14:	Zeus posted... Plus you need to enforce copyrights to maintain them. No you don't. <cite>sveksii posted [p:907310266] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Plus you need to enforce copyrights to maintain them.</quote>No you don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 08/21/18 8:05:35 PM #15:	A bunch of those stuff should be going into public domain if it weren't for fucking disney. --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:907310377] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>A bunch of those stuff should be going into public domain if it weren't for fucking disney.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/21/18 8:07:14 PM #16:	AllstarSniper32 posted... Just another reason to dislike Nintendo. "They won't let me steal from them. Fuck those guys!" DPsx7 posted... I get the fact they don't want people profiting from their work or potentially spoiling their name, but their methods are outdated and they need to realize that emulation serves an important purpose through preservation. Even assuming that Nintendo doesn't save copies of their games -- which seems unlikely -- it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site, so nothing is effectively being preserved for them. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:907310492] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote>Just another reason to dislike Nintendo.</quote> "They won't let me steal from them. Fuck those guys!" <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>I get the fact they don't want people profiting from their work or potentially spoiling their name, but their methods are outdated and they need to realize that emulation serves an important purpose through preservation.</quote> Even assuming that Nintendo doesn't save copies of their games -- which seems unlikely -- it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site, so nothing is effectively being preserved for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kungfu Kenobi 08/21/18 8:30:09 PM #17:	sveksii posted... Zeus posted... Plus you need to enforce copyrights to maintain them. No you don't. Trademarks yes, copyrights no. --- This album is not available to the public. Even if it were, you wouldn't wanna listen to it! <cite>Kungfu Kenobi posted [p:907311837] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>sveksii posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Plus you need to enforce copyrights to maintain them.</quote>No you don't.</quote> Trademarks yes, copyrights no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 08/21/18 9:04:28 PM #18:	Zeus posted... Even assuming that Nintendo doesn't save copies of their games -- which seems unlikely -- it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site, so nothing is effectively being preserved for them. We're not doing it for them, we're doing it because they aren't. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:907313880] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> Even assuming that Nintendo doesn't save copies of their games -- which seems unlikely -- it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site, so nothing is effectively being preserved for them.</quote> We're not doing it for them, we're doing it because they aren't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 08/21/18 9:06:59 PM #19:	why should nintendo not shut down websites that illegally distribute their shit illegally like what the fuck is this question rom sites will get shut down, that shit is illegal. --- "Nobody uses Google anymore." - DPsx7 https://imgur.com/JMnvb4m <cite>likehelly posted [p:907314065] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>why should nintendo not shut down websites that illegally distribute their shit illegally like what the fuck is this question rom sites will get shut down, that shit is illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 08/21/18 9:34:00 PM #20:	Zeus posted... Well, it's their IPs so why shouldn't they do it? Plus you need to enforce copyrights to maintain them. You don't understand copyrights, huh? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:907315840] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Well, it's their IPs so why shouldn't they do it? Plus you need to enforce copyrights to maintain them.</quote> You don't understand copyrights, huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mofuji 08/21/18 10:16:33 PM #21:	I'm just not buying anything first party Nintendo from this point onward. --- "Youkai is evil because Youaki is bad. And I'm gonna exterminate them." ~ Reimu Hakurei during the 2016 US Presidential Campaign <cite>Mofuji posted [p:907318353] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>I'm just not buying anything first party Nintendo from this point onward.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/21/18 10:29:08 PM #22:	Why wouldn't Nintendo take down Emuparadise? People are still buying their nes games for $8... For each system. And no, as someone who has written half an nes emulator, it's a one man job for a week. Porting a familiar nes emulator is a weekend job. Just take down the whole website, forget all the non Nintendo games by long gone devs, Nintendo likes money. <cite>Yellow posted [p:907319164] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't Nintendo take down Emuparadise? People are still buying their nes games for $8... For each system. And no, as someone who has written half an nes emulator, it's a one man job for a week. Porting a familiar nes emulator is a weekend job. Just take down the whole website, forget all the non Nintendo games by long gone devs, Nintendo likes money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleOSnake 08/21/18 10:31:05 PM #23:	it's now 8 dollars to get it on virtual console? --- "Kojima, the man who trolled the world" <cite>DoubleOSnake posted [p:907319291] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>it's now 8 dollars to get it on virtual console?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/21/18 10:35:31 PM #24:	DoubleOSnake posted... it's now 8 dollars to get it on virtual console? I just googled it. $4.99 ( NES titles), $7.99 (SNES titles), and $9.99 N64 I get an almost true, not full pants on fire. <cite>Yellow posted [p:907319569] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoubleOSnake posted...</cite> <quote>it's now 8 dollars to get it on virtual console?</quote> I just googled it. <quote>$4.99 ( NES titles), $7.99 (SNES titles), and $9.99 N64</quote> I get an almost true, not full pants on fire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleOSnake 08/21/18 10:38:46 PM #25:	that ain't that bad, 5 bucks for a good nes game --- "Kojima, the man who trolled the world" <cite>DoubleOSnake posted [p:907319774] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>that ain't that bad, 5 bucks for a good nes game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 08/21/18 10:41:28 PM #26:	DoubleOSnake posted... that ain't that bad, 5 bucks for a good nes game Um excuse you I should get them for free for living in 2018. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:907319942] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoubleOSnake posted...</cite> <quote>that ain't that bad, 5 bucks for a good nes game</quote> Um excuse you I should get them for free for living in 2018.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/21/18 10:43:06 PM #27:	Yeah, but you shouldn't have to pay the same price every time. <cite>Yellow posted [p:907320042] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but you shouldn't have to pay the same price every time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/21/18 10:44:20 PM #28:	Really, you should pay for the rom once and the emulator once. That way you can buy every nes game on Wii, get them all when you buy the emulator on the Switch. <cite>Yellow posted [p:907320122] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Really, you should pay for the rom once and the emulator once. That way you can buy every nes game on Wii, get them all when you buy the emulator on the Switch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaqthourne 08/21/18 10:51:06 PM #29:	Zeus posted... Well, it's their IPs Smarkil posted... It's their IP So, all those Capcom, Konami, Tecmo, JLN, SNK, Sunsoft, etc. etc. properties are now theirs? Zeus posted... it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site, Hasn't it been proven that that's exactly what they've done, i.e. the ROMs they're using are what's on those emulation sites? --- Montreal Expos (1969-2004) http://www.backloggery.com/Blaqthourne Now playing: King's Quest II (PC) -- started 8/4/2018; VectorMan (Gen (SGC (PSP))), 8/5 <cite>Blaqthourne posted [p:907320537] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Well, it's their IPs</quote> <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>It's their IP </quote> So, all those Capcom, Konami, Tecmo, JLN, SNK, Sunsoft, etc. etc. properties are now theirs? <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site,</quote> Hasn't it been proven that that's exactly what they've done, i.e. the ROMs they're using are what's on those emulation sites?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/22/18 12:28:20 AM #30:	It's great Nintendo shouldn't let anyone steal their IP's even if they were never released here in english http://www.mediafire.com/file/01pqiouf9qf6nt0/ZNESgames.rar/file <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:907325423] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>It's great Nintendo shouldn't let anyone steal their IP's even if they were never released here in english http://www.mediafire.com/file/01pqiouf9qf6nt0/ZNESgames.rar/file</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 08/22/18 12:40:41 AM #31:	Blaqthourne posted... So, all those Capcom, Konami, Tecmo, JLN, SNK, Sunsoft, etc. etc. properties are now theirs? The software used to run those games is, yes. Not to mention all of their first party shit. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:907325911] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blaqthourne posted...</cite> <quote>So, all those Capcom, Konami, Tecmo, JLN, SNK, Sunsoft, etc. etc. properties are now theirs?</quote> The software used to run those games is, yes. Not to mention all of their first party shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
maniaxe613 08/22/18 12:46:47 AM #32:	likehelly posted... why should nintendo not shut down websites that illegally distribute their shit illegally like what the fuck is this question rom sites will get shut down, that shit is illegal. I'll tell you why. Because instead of saying, "Remove our ROMs or we will sue you," it seems that Nintendo is forcing ROM sites to shut down entirely even if they only distribute non-Nintendo ROMs. How is that fair? Why can't they just worry about their own copyright and not anyone else's? --- SAVE OUR CANADIAN SHOWS! http://www.thepetitionsite.com/389/652/180/ I will not remove my petition from my sig until there is justice! <cite>maniaxe613 posted [p:907326161] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote>why should nintendo not shut down websites that illegally distribute their shit illegally like what the fuck is this question rom sites will get shut down, that shit is illegal.</quote> I'll tell you why. Because instead of saying, "Remove our ROMs or we will sue you," it seems that Nintendo is forcing ROM sites to shut down entirely even if they only distribute non-Nintendo ROMs. How is that fair? Why can't they just worry about their own copyright and not anyone else's?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green dragon 08/22/18 12:51:27 AM #33:	Look, I love using roms and all that shit, but I don't understand people who feel entitled to use them. Nintendo can do whatever they want with their ips. maniaxe613 posted... I'll tell you why. Because instead of saying, "Remove our ROMs or we will sue you," it seems that Nintendo is forcing ROM sites to shut down entirely even if they only distribute non-Nintendo ROMs. How is that fair? Why can't they just worry about their own copyright and not anyone else's? How is it fair that you can get games for free? --- Just because you're trash doesn't mean you can't do great things. It's called garbage can, not garbage cannot. <cite>green dragon posted [p:907326356] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Look, I love using roms and all that shit, but I don't understand people who feel entitled to use them. Nintendo can do whatever they want with their ips. <cite>maniaxe613 posted...</cite> <quote>I'll tell you why. Because instead of saying, "Remove our ROMs or we will sue you," it seems that Nintendo is forcing ROM sites to shut down entirely even if they only distribute non-Nintendo ROMs. How is that fair? Why can't they just worry about their own copyright and not anyone else's?</quote> How is it fair that you can get games for free?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
maniaxe613 08/22/18 1:36:30 AM #34:	How is it fair that you can get games for free? It's fair if you can get games that are so old that they become hard to find, whether it is free or at a REASONABLE price. If Nintendo wants up to stop downloading their ROMs for free, then they should sell their ROMs. I don't mean on Virtual Console, I mean actually sell the ROMs so they can be used with an emulator. --- SAVE OUR CANADIAN SHOWS! http://www.thepetitionsite.com/389/652/180/ I will not remove my petition from my sig until there is justice! <cite>maniaxe613 posted [p:907327967] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>How is it fair that you can get games for free? It's fair if you can get games that are so old that they become hard to find, whether it is free or at a REASONABLE price. If Nintendo wants up to stop downloading their ROMs for free, then they should sell their ROMs. I don't mean on Virtual Console, I mean actually sell the ROMs so they can be used with an emulator.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green dragon 08/22/18 1:53:50 AM #35:	maniaxe613 posted... If Nintendo wants up to stop downloading their ROMs for free, then they should sell their ROMs But they do, you could just use... maniaxe613 posted... I don't mean on Virtual Console, I mean actually sell the ROMs so they can be used with an emulator Oh, so you want them to completely cater to you. You don't want to buy a Wii or Wiiu, or 3ds, but you want to play their games on your PC? That's like asking them to put switch games on PC. --- Just because you're trash doesn't mean you can't do great things. It's called garbage can, not garbage cannot. <cite>green dragon posted [p:907328471] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>maniaxe613 posted...</cite> <quote> If Nintendo wants up to stop downloading their ROMs for free, then they should sell their ROMs</quote> But they do, you could just use... <cite>maniaxe613 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't mean on Virtual Console, I mean actually sell the ROMs so they can be used with an emulator</quote> Oh, so you want them to completely cater to you. You don't want to buy a Wii or Wiiu, or 3ds, but you want to play their games on your PC? That's like asking them to put switch games on PC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/22/18 1:56:13 AM #36:	green dragon posted... their ips. no one has a problem with it if they provide those games but often times they dont' or they lump non-related games into the take down <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:907328545] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>green dragon posted...</cite> <quote>their ips.</quote> no one has a problem with it if they provide those games but often times they dont' or they lump non-related games into the take down</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 08/22/18 2:00:00 AM #37:	RoboXgp89 posted... green dragon posted... their ips. no one has a problem with it if they provide those games but often times they dont' or they lump non-related games into the take down and oh fuckin' well. it's their shit, they can do literally whatever they want with it --- "Nobody uses Google anymore." - DPsx7 https://imgur.com/JMnvb4m <cite>likehelly posted [p:907328663] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>green dragon posted...</cite> <quote>their ips.</quote> no one has a problem with it if they provide those games but often times they dont' or they lump non-related games into the take down</quote> and oh fuckin' well. it's their shit, they can do literally whatever they want with it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
maniaxe613 08/22/18 2:35:32 AM #38:	Oh, so you want them to completely cater to you. You don't want to buy a Wii or Wiiu, or 3ds, but you want to play their games on your PC? That's like asking them to put switch games on PC. Their consoles are old af. It's not like I'm asking Nintendo to put their Wii U and Switch games on PC. It's not like someone is going to buy a used NES and Nintendo will be like, "We just made some money!" Besides, their Virtual Console games are usually limited to one region and the games don't even have a cheat feature. Therefore, players won't be able to always shoot fire with Mario in Super Mario Bros. and players won't be able to warp to the final level in Donkey Kong Country. --- SAVE OUR CANADIAN SHOWS! http://www.thepetitionsite.com/389/652/180/ I will not remove my petition from my sig until there is justice! <cite>maniaxe613 posted [p:907329710] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Oh, so you want them to completely cater to you. You don't want to buy a Wii or Wiiu, or 3ds, but you want to play their games on your PC? That's like asking them to put switch games on PC. Their consoles are old af. It's not like I'm asking Nintendo to put their Wii U and Switch games on PC. It's not like someone is going to buy a used NES and Nintendo will be like, "We just made some money!" Besides, their Virtual Console games are usually limited to one region and the games don't even have a cheat feature. Therefore, players won't be able to always shoot fire with Mario in Super Mario Bros. and players won't be able to warp to the final level in Donkey Kong Country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/22/18 2:46:27 AM #39:	Voted no. It's pointless as ROMs will always be available and Nintendo are just doing it out of spite. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:907329999] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Voted no. It's pointless as ROMs will always be available and Nintendo are just doing it out of spite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/22/18 2:51:48 AM #40:	DPsx7 posted... Zeus posted... Even assuming that Nintendo doesn't save copies of their games -- which seems unlikely -- it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site, so nothing is effectively being preserved for them. We're not doing it for them, we're doing it because they aren't. They are saving it, though. The fact that they're not re-releasing things doesn't change that. Blaqthourne posted... So, all those Capcom, Konami, Tecmo, JLN, SNK, Sunsoft, etc. etc. properties are now theirs? I'll tell you who the rights don't belong to: the guys running those ROM sites. And while Nintendo also goes after third-party titles, they have some ownership via licensing and part of that licensing agreement involves enforcing copyrights. However, when it comes to ROM sites, they heavily pirate first-party stuff. maniaxe613 posted... I'll tell you why. Because instead of saying, "Remove our ROMs or we will sue you," it seems that Nintendo is forcing ROM sites to shut down entirely even if they only distribute non-Nintendo ROMs. How is that fair? Why can't they just worry about their own copyright and not anyone else's? Again, even third-party NES/SNES/etc titles they have a partial claim on and part of their licensing agreement involves going after pirates. maniaxe613 posted... It's fair if you can get games that are so old that they become hard to find, whether it is free or at a REASONABLE price. If Nintendo wants up to stop downloading their ROMs for free, then they should sell their ROMs. I don't mean on Virtual Console, I mean actually sell the ROMs so they can be used with an emulator. Their property, they can decide what to do with it. In some cases, the other companies involved don't want to re-release it. And you know what? That's their right. Just like it's Stephen King's right to refuse to have some of his stories republished; that doesn't entitle you to pirate his stuff. And it's even worse given that you're insisting that they release it on the platforms you want. These companies don't owe you anything. They don't have to re-release anything, especially not on platforms that they don't want to be on. And, honestly, if you're going to steal shit, don't try to act high and mighty about it or invent flimsy excuses to justify your theft. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:907330126] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote><quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> Even assuming that Nintendo doesn't save copies of their games -- which seems unlikely -- it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site, so nothing is effectively being preserved for them.</quote> We're not doing it for them, we're doing it because they aren't.</quote> They are saving it, though. The fact that they're not re-releasing things doesn't change that. <cite>Blaqthourne posted...</cite> <quote> So, all those Capcom, Konami, Tecmo, JLN, SNK, Sunsoft, etc. etc. properties are now theirs?</quote> I'll tell you who the rights don't belong to: the guys running those ROM sites. And while Nintendo also goes after third-party titles, they have some ownership via licensing and part of that licensing agreement involves enforcing copyrights. However, when it comes to ROM sites, they heavily pirate first-party stuff. <cite>maniaxe613 posted...</cite> <quote>I'll tell you why. Because instead of saying, "Remove our ROMs or we will sue you," it seems that Nintendo is forcing ROM sites to shut down entirely even if they only distribute non-Nintendo ROMs. How is that fair? Why can't they just worry about their own copyright and not anyone else's?</quote> Again, even third-party NES/SNES/etc titles they have a partial claim on and part of their licensing agreement involves going after pirates. <cite>maniaxe613 posted...</cite> <quote>It's fair if you can get games that are so old that they become hard to find, whether it is free or at a REASONABLE price. If Nintendo wants up to stop downloading their ROMs for free, then they should sell their ROMs. I don't mean on Virtual Console, I mean actually sell the ROMs so they can be used with an emulator.</quote> Their property, they can decide what to do with it. In some cases, the other companies involved don't want to re-release it. And you know what? That's their right. Just like it's Stephen King's right to refuse to have some of his stories republished; that doesn't entitle you to pirate his stuff. And it's even worse given that you're insisting that they release it on the platforms you want. These companies don't owe you anything. They don't have to re-release anything, especially not on platforms that they don't want to be on. And, honestly, if you're going to steal shit, don't try to act high and mighty about it or invent flimsy excuses to justify your theft.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kungfu Kenobi 08/22/18 3:03:04 AM #41:	Blaqthourne posted... Hasn't it been proven that that's exactly what they've done, i.e. the ROMs they're using are what's on those emulation sites? The initial VC release of Super Mario Bros is a 1:1 copy of the ROM available on any number of ROM sites. This includes metadata that wasn't part of the original cartridge, but was added by the emulation scene what dumped the ROMs in the first place. In other words, yeah they totally just downloaded a ROM and put it up on their store. Which is fair play for Nintendo as far as I'm concerned, if the idea that ROM sites exist to serve in a backup and archival capacity. Many of these sites outright say that the data should only be downloaded by someone if they have the right to use it. Who has more rights to use it than Nintendo themselves? That's some Dave Chappelle/Prince checkmate right there. --- This album is not available to the public. Even if it were, you wouldn't wanna listen to it! <cite>Kungfu Kenobi posted [p:907330366] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blaqthourne posted...</cite> <quote>Hasn't it been proven that that's exactly what they've done, i.e. the ROMs they're using are what's on those emulation sites?</quote> The initial VC release of Super Mario Bros is a 1:1 copy of the ROM available on any number of ROM sites. This includes metadata that wasn't part of the original cartridge, but was added by the emulation scene what dumped the ROMs in the first place. In other words, yeah they totally just downloaded a ROM and put it up on their store. Which is fair play for Nintendo as far as I'm concerned, if the idea that ROM sites exist to serve in a backup and archival capacity. Many of these sites outright say that the data should only be downloaded by someone if they have the right to use it. Who has more rights to use it than Nintendo themselves? That's some Dave Chappelle/Prince checkmate right there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talisman_01 08/22/18 5:38:50 AM #42:	Nintendo has once too often said F U to their fans for me to give a damn about them. I haven't given Nintendo a dollar since the N64 days, F'k me over once, shame on you, F'k me over twice (I seriously doubt many Nintendo fans understand the Gamecube crap), shame on me. For me personally, I absolutely despise them and the way they do business. From their earlier days they were the first to condemn roms and emulation, and yet... it was roms and emulation that made them realize the attraction and love of the older games. NO older game were ever released before this, Nintendo had no desire to resurrect these games and was intent on letting them die to enhance the sales of newer games (much like what happened with the ps2). Nintendo railed against emulation and roms and then what happened?... they started emulation and distribution of roms themselves... God I hate hyprocrisy. Nintendo is perhaps more shameful than Apple (great American Company my ass...). <cite>Talisman_01 posted [p:907333354] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Nintendo has once too often said F U to their fans for me to give a damn about them. I haven't given Nintendo a dollar since the N64 days, F'k me over once, shame on you, F'k me over twice (I seriously doubt many Nintendo fans understand the Gamecube crap), shame on me. For me personally, I absolutely despise them and the way they do business. From their earlier days they were the first to condemn roms and emulation, and yet... it was roms and emulation that made them realize the attraction and love of the older games. NO older game were ever released before this, Nintendo had no desire to resurrect these games and was intent on letting them die to enhance the sales of newer games (much like what happened with the ps2). Nintendo railed against emulation and roms and then what happened?... they started emulation and distribution of roms themselves... God I hate hyprocrisy. Nintendo is perhaps more shameful than Apple (great American Company my ass...).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Warrax 08/22/18 10:00:15 AM #43:	They are still making a profit of games they sell on NES Classic and Virtual Console. The other games however... <cite>Warrax posted [p:907340151] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>They are still making a profit of games they sell on NES Classic and Virtual Console. The other games however...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 08/22/18 10:41:24 AM #44:	I stopped going to rom sites years ago for that stuff. There are better ways to acquire your roms (in bulk no less). I pretty much got all of the roms I needed some 10 years ago. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:907341951] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>I stopped going to rom sites years ago for that stuff. There are better ways to acquire your roms (in bulk no less). I pretty much got all of the roms I needed some 10 years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 08/22/18 11:25:36 AM #45:	Dikitain posted... I pretty much got all of the roms I needed some 10 years ago. "Needed." --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:907344095] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>I pretty much got all of the roms I needed some 10 years ago.</quote> "Needed."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvyFox 08/22/18 11:39:16 AM #46:	Mead posted... Do I have to have an opinion Yeah where's the "I don't care" option? <cite>EnvyFox posted [p:907344798] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Do I have to have an opinion</quote> Yeah where's the "I don't care" option?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 08/22/18 11:40:05 AM #47:	Kinda indifferent but I do wish Nintendo would post these older games on their eShop. Their reasoning that the 3DS can't play ROMs still bugs me but I'll be getting a Switch eventually anyway. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:907344848] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>Kinda indifferent but I do wish Nintendo would post these older games on their eShop. Their reasoning that the 3DS can't play ROMs still bugs me but I'll be getting a Switch eventually anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JTekashiro 08/22/18 11:53:41 AM #48:	It is comical watching people complain that they cannot steal anymore and somehow Nintendo is the jerk out of all of this. Theft is just so rampant in our society that we don't even register it anymore. Most people in North America have stolen some form of media in one way or another yet they all complain about theft as a negative. <cite>JTekashiro posted [p:907345586] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote>It is comical watching people complain that they cannot steal anymore and somehow Nintendo is the jerk out of all of this. Theft is just so rampant in our society that we don't even register it anymore. Most people in North America have stolen some form of media in one way or another yet they all complain about theft as a negative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/22/18 1:34:29 PM #49:	likehelly posted... RoboXgp89 posted... green dragon posted... their ips. no one has a problem with it if they provide those games but often times they dont' or they lump non-related games into the take down and oh fuckin' well. it's their shit, they can do literally whatever they want with it they don't own, nor publish those games it's none of their business they're pushing VC on people that don't want it nor need it <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:907351209] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>green dragon posted...</cite> <quote>their ips.</quote> no one has a problem with it if they provide those games but often times they dont' or they lump non-related games into the take down</quote> and oh fuckin' well. it's their shit, they can do literally whatever they want with it</quote> they don't own, nor publish those games it's none of their business they're pushing VC on people that don't want it nor need it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 08/22/18 2:05:02 PM #50:	Zeus posted... it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site Except that they already have. People with hacked Wiis have confirmed that the ROMs of several Virtual Console games have headers from a certain popular emulation site. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:907352773] in What's you... [t:76924576]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>it's not like they're just going to copy what's on an emulation site</quote> Except that they already have. People with hacked Wiis have confirmed that the ROMs of several Virtual Console games have headers from a certain popular emulation site.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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