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CiIantro 08/24/18 12:06:34 AM #1:	So I just beat the 2nd To The Moon game, and was thinking it would be cool if the 3rd game featured a gay main character (lots of avenues to explore for this type of series). I can only imagine the backlash that would follow though. Whenever a video game character is gay, or a gay relationship is shown, everyone freaks out and accuses the devs of "pandering". How is it pandering when literally 99% of games do not have a gay character? Statistically, that is very unrealistic. There is a higher instance of gay people occurring in real life than in video games. The moment one is included (specifically a main character) people freak out that a game isnt 100% catering to them specifically. As a gay gay, I enjoy games with straight main characters and have no problem with them. Straight people should be the same way. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907445846] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>So I just beat the 2nd To The Moon game, and was thinking it would be cool if the 3rd game featured a gay main character (lots of avenues to explore for this type of series). I can only imagine the backlash that would follow though. Whenever a video game character is gay, or a gay relationship is shown, everyone freaks out and accuses the devs of "pandering". How is it pandering when literally 99% of games do not have a gay character? Statistically, that is very unrealistic. There is a higher instance of gay people occurring in real life than in video games. The moment one is included (specifically a main character) people freak out that a game isnt 100% catering to them specifically. As a gay gay, I enjoy games with straight main characters and have no problem with them. Straight people should be the same way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 08/24/18 12:07:08 AM #2:	they think that because they are playing as the character that now makes them gay. --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter World (xbone), H1Z1 (ps4), Earthbound (snes) <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:907445873] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>they think that because they are playing as the character that now makes them gay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterbarf 08/24/18 12:15:02 AM #3:	Homophobes, racists, the stupid, etc believe straight, white, and male is the default way of being. They think making a character gay is a conscious decision against the default status, failing to realize that making a character straight is every bit a conscious decision and a statement as making the character gay. <cite>masterbarf posted [p:907446178] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>Homophobes, racists, the stupid, etc believe straight, white, and male is the default way of being. They think making a character gay is a conscious decision against the default status, failing to realize that making a character straight is every bit a conscious decision and a statement as making the character gay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJKirby 08/24/18 12:15:40 AM #4:	because diversity is pandering because it's different --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. <cite>SSJKirby posted [p:907446216] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>because diversity is pandering because it's different</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 08/24/18 12:15:41 AM #5:	Not to mention most female main characters are over-sexualized --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:907446218] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>Not to mention most female main characters are over-sexualized</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai 08/24/18 12:17:08 AM #6:	I wouldn't have a problem if a character was gay, but what you describe sounds like making a character gay just for the sake of making them gay. There's more to a person than that, right? --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:907446288] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't have a problem if a character was gay, but what you describe sounds like making a character gay just for the sake of making them gay. There's more to a person than that, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad_Chad 08/24/18 12:18:07 AM #7:	yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth --- Female body inspector and motorboating enthusiast. <cite>Rad_Chad posted [p:907446324] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 08/24/18 12:19:09 AM #8:	Rad_Chad posted... yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth Good example: Persona 4 Bad example: Gone Home --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:907446382] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote>yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth</quote> Good example: Persona 4 Bad example: Gone Home</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tekashi69 08/24/18 12:19:53 AM #9:	If the character in the game is supposed to be strong and fight stuff being gay doesn't make sense when I'm supposed to be fighting bad guys outside a store then my main character gets distracted by sparkly high heels in a window shop and wants to try girls clothes on --- Yet... <cite>Tekashi69 posted [p:907446414] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>If the character in the game is supposed to be strong and fight stuff being gay doesn't make sense when I'm supposed to be fighting bad guys outside a store then my main character gets distracted by sparkly high heels in a window shop and wants to try girls clothes on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/24/18 12:24:27 AM #10:	Kisai posted... I wouldn't have a problem if a character was gay, but what you describe sounds like making a character gay just for the sake of making them gay. There's more to a person than that, right? What I described is making a character gay. Thats it. And if you are speaking about the specific example I gave, it is a story driven series revolving largely around romantic interests, so yes, a gay character would fit quite well. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907446603] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kisai posted...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't have a problem if a character was gay, but what you describe sounds like making a character gay just for the sake of making them gay. There's more to a person than that, right?</quote> What I described is making a character gay. Thats it. And if you are speaking about the specific example I gave, it is a story driven series revolving largely around romantic interests, so yes, a gay character would fit quite well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/24/18 12:25:24 AM #11:	Tekashi69 posted... If the character in the game is supposed to be strong and fight stuff being gay doesn't make sense when I'm supposed to be fighting bad guys outside a store then my main character gets distracted by sparkly high heels in a window shop and wants to try girls clothes on please be a joke post <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907446651] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tekashi69 posted...</cite> <quote>If the character in the game is supposed to be strong and fight stuff being gay doesn't make sense when I'm supposed to be fighting bad guys outside a store then my main character gets distracted by sparkly high heels in a window shop and wants to try girls clothes on</quote> please be a joke post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterbarf 08/24/18 12:30:11 AM #12:	masterbarf posted... Homophobes, racists, the stupid, etc believe straight, white, and male is the default way of being. Kisai posted... what you describe sounds like making a character gay just for the sake of making them gay. Case in point. <cite>masterbarf posted [p:907446823] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterbarf posted...</cite> <quote>Homophobes, racists, the stupid, etc believe straight, white, and male is the default way of being. </quote> <cite>Kisai posted...</cite> <quote>what you describe sounds like making a character gay just for the sake of making them gay.</quote> Case in point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathDeathSong 08/24/18 12:37:29 AM #13:	what hetties dont realize is that theres nothing wrong with a gay characters story revolving around them being gay cause surprise surprise a lot of gay people actually love being gay and talking about it --- And this world's got to end someday soon... Let me tell you about Homestuck https://i.imgtc.com/2Ad2sOk.gif <cite>DeathDeathSong posted [p:907447079] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>what hetties dont realize is that theres nothing wrong with a gay characters story revolving around them being gay cause surprise surprise a lot of gay people actually love being gay and talking about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/24/18 12:38:22 AM #14:	DeathDeathSong posted... what hetties dont realize is that theres nothing wrong with a gay characters story revolving around them being gay cause surprise surprise a lot of gay people actually love being gay and talking about it Just like a lot of straight people love being straight and talking about it. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907447106] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeathDeathSong posted...</cite> <quote>what hetties dont realize is that theres nothing wrong with a gay characters story revolving around them being gay cause surprise surprise a lot of gay people actually love being gay and talking about it</quote> Just like a lot of straight people love being straight and talking about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kajagogo 08/24/18 12:38:38 AM #15:	Tekashi69 posted... If the character in the game is supposed to be strong and fight stuff being gay doesn't make sense when I'm supposed to be fighting bad guys outside a store then my main character gets distracted by sparkly high heels in a window shop and wants to try girls clothes on So you think all gay men are drag queens? --- By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings. <cite>Kajagogo posted [p:907447119] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tekashi69 posted...</cite> <quote>If the character in the game is supposed to be strong and fight stuff being gay doesn't make sense when I'm supposed to be fighting bad guys outside a store then my main character gets distracted by sparkly high heels in a window shop and wants to try girls clothes on</quote> So you think all gay men are drag queens?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/24/18 12:45:06 AM #16:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Rad_Chad posted... yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth Good example: Persona 4 Bad example: Gone Home Err gone home was just fine it was about finding out why your sister left and all she'd been through. I mean it wasn't great and has its share of problems but mostly they're technical issues. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:907447358] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote>yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth</quote> Good example: Persona 4 Bad example: Gone Home</quote> Err gone home was just fine it was about finding out why your sister left and all she'd been through. I mean it wasn't great and has its share of problems but mostly they're technical issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 08/25/18 10:16:45 PM #17:	Kisai posted... I wouldn't have a problem if a character was gay, but what you describe sounds like making a character gay just for the sake of making them gay. There's more to a person than that, right? Do you also whine about when they make a character straight for 99.9% of the time? "There's more to a person than that, right?" Obviously. And yet people seem to start caring when the character isn't straight. HETERONORMATIVITY --- Touch fuzzy get dizzy. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:907550569] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kisai posted...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't have a problem if a character was gay, but what you describe sounds like making a character gay just for the sake of making them gay. There's more to a person than that, right?</quote> Do you also whine about when they make a character straight for 99.9% of the time? "There's more to a person than that, right?" Obviously. And yet people seem to start caring when the character isn't straight. HETERONORMATIVITY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 08/25/18 10:22:32 PM #18:	AvantgardeAClue posted... Rad_Chad posted... yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth Good example: Persona 4 Bad example: Gone Home you do realize that most people just go into a delusional mindset and convince themselves that kanji is straight right? gay people who remember what there teen years was like and know exactly what he is going through know he is gay people who just dont want to admit he they really really like a gay character make up every excuse in the book as to why is he totally hetero even though the final stage in his social link is him literally coming out to the MC "but he never outright said the words i am gay so him telling that the obvious gay man who was his shadow is the real him could mean anything!!" --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:907550843] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote>yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth</quote> Good example: Persona 4 Bad example: Gone Home</quote> you do realize that most people just go into a delusional mindset and convince themselves that kanji is straight right? gay people who remember what there teen years was like and know exactly what he is going through know he is gay people who just dont want to admit he they really really like a gay character make up every excuse in the book as to why is he totally hetero even though the final stage in his social link is him literally coming out to the MC "but he never outright said the words i am gay so him telling that the obvious gay man who was his shadow is the real him could mean anything!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/25/18 10:23:35 PM #19:	SSJKirby posted... because diversity is pandering because it's different Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:907550891] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJKirby posted...</cite> <quote>because diversity is pandering because it's different</quote> Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiggy101011 08/25/18 10:24:54 PM #20:	What games? --- Gamertag: F1RE v2 PSN ID: F1REx Man got me a 9 and she sexy. <cite>Jiggy101011 posted [p:907550950] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>What games?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 08/25/18 10:25:13 PM #21:	darkjedilink posted... SSJKirby posted... because diversity is pandering because it's different Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering. of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created people accused walking dead of pandering when they introduced a character from the comics who was gay and kept him gay --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:907550963] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJKirby posted...</cite> <quote>because diversity is pandering because it's different</quote> Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering.</quote> of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created people accused walking dead of pandering when they introduced a character from the comics who was gay and kept him gay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/25/18 10:25:32 PM #22:	In less enlightened times, when I thought trans women were "men," I thought Yoshi was gay because of Mario Kart shipping him with Birdo. It didn't spoil my enjoyment of Yoshi's Island any. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907550976] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>In less enlightened times, when I thought trans women were "men," I thought Yoshi was gay because of Mario Kart shipping him with Birdo. It didn't spoil my enjoyment of Yoshi's Island any.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 08/25/18 10:38:19 PM #23:	When a main character happens to be gay, which is a very small minority of people out there, many 'gamers' (most of which playing big console games and stuff are straight males) assume that it is a political/agenda thing that was shoved into the game and pan it as a result. Note that people tend to be far harsher to front-and-center LGBT elements in western AAA games where the culture in media has been 'push progress' than Japanese games where ho yay has been pretty accepted (Metal Gear for example). Not saying it's right but as it stands there are a lot of people at least in the gaming community that feel that 'leftist devs' are pushing LGBT to be 50/50 represented with cis when it's 4% of the population. That's typically the argument I see on /v/ for example --- https://imgtc.com/i/FoEetUh.gif https://imgtc.com/i/oeysOEy.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:907551571] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>When a main character happens to be gay, which is a very small minority of people out there, many 'gamers' (most of which playing big console games and stuff are straight males) assume that it is a political/agenda thing that was shoved into the game and pan it as a result. Note that people tend to be far harsher to front-and-center LGBT elements in western AAA games where the culture in media has been 'push progress' than Japanese games where ho yay has been pretty accepted (Metal Gear for example). Not saying it's right but as it stands there are a lot of people at least in the gaming community that feel that 'leftist devs' are pushing LGBT to be 50/50 represented with cis when it's 4% of the population. That's typically the argument I see on /v/ for example</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kuwab0 08/25/18 10:39:49 PM #24:	I cant think of any games with Gay main characters --- https://imgur.com/QfpP05s https://imgur.com/vdnZ1o6 https://imgur.com/zTgf822 <cite>kuwab0 posted [p:907551653] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>I cant think of any games with Gay main characters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/25/18 10:43:17 PM #25:	kuwab0 posted... I cant think of any games with Gay main characters Any Street Fighter game where you select Zangief. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907551821] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>kuwab0 posted...</cite> <quote>I cant think of any games with Gay main characters</quote> Any Street Fighter game where you select Zangief.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 08/25/18 10:43:32 PM #26:	kuwab0 posted... I cant think of any games with Gay main characters mass effect dragon age legend of zelda ocarina of time last of us 2 --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:907551832] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>kuwab0 posted...</cite> <quote>I cant think of any games with Gay main characters</quote> mass effect dragon age legend of zelda ocarina of time last of us 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 08/25/18 10:46:46 PM #27:	yusiko posted... legend of zelda ocarina of time --- https://imgtc.com/i/FoEetUh.gif https://imgtc.com/i/oeysOEy.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:907551982] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote>legend of zelda ocarina of time </quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/25/18 10:46:47 PM #28:	yusiko posted... legend of zelda ocarina of time Did they retroactively state this was the case or are you making a joke because he didn't actively pursue any of the six female characters? <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:907551984] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote>legend of zelda ocarina of time </quote> Did they retroactively state this was the case or are you making a joke because he didn't actively pursue any of the six female characters?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/25/18 10:47:57 PM #29:	yusiko posted... darkjedilink posted... SSJKirby posted... because diversity is pandering because it's different Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering. of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created people accused walking dead of pandering when they introduced a character from the comics who was gay and kept him gay Are you really going to try and argue that Mass Effect: Andromeda's launch wasn't pandering? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:907552035] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJKirby posted...</cite> <quote>because diversity is pandering because it's different</quote> Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering.</quote> of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created people accused walking dead of pandering when they introduced a character from the comics who was gay and kept him gay</quote> Are you really going to try and argue that Mass Effect: Andromeda's launch wasn't pandering?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BigSLM1993 08/25/18 10:52:13 PM #30:	darkjedilink posted... yusiko posted... darkjedilink posted... SSJKirby posted... because diversity is pandering because it's different Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering. of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created people accused walking dead of pandering when they introduced a character from the comics who was gay and kept him gay Are you really going to try and argue that Mass Effect: Andromeda's launch wasn't pandering? Im genuinely curious. When they first showed Andromeda's trailer announcing the cast, they showed Liam for the first time. I saw people accuse the game of pandering. We knew next to nothing about Liam minus him being Black, yet the game is "pandering" somehow, and the game ended up having no bearing on his race. If him being Black was "pandering" what race should he have been for it not to be "pandering"? <cite>BigSLM1993 posted [p:907552191] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJKirby posted...</cite> <quote>because diversity is pandering because it's different</quote> Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering.</quote> of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created people accused walking dead of pandering when they introduced a character from the comics who was gay and kept him gay</quote> Are you really going to try and argue that Mass Effect: Andromeda's launch wasn't pandering?</quote> Im genuinely curious. When they first showed Andromeda's trailer announcing the cast, they showed Liam for the first time. I saw people accuse the game of pandering. We knew next to nothing about Liam minus him being Black, yet the game is "pandering" somehow, and the game ended up having no bearing on his race. If him being Black was "pandering" what race should he have been for it not to be "pandering"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 08/25/18 10:52:36 PM #31:	darkjedilink posted... yusiko posted... darkjedilink posted... SSJKirby posted... because diversity is pandering because it's different Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering. of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created people accused walking dead of pandering when they introduced a character from the comics who was gay and kept him gay Are you really going to try and argue that Mass Effect: Andromeda's launch wasn't pandering? are you really going to argue gay people shouldnt exist? --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:907552206] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJKirby posted...</cite> <quote>because diversity is pandering because it's different</quote> Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering.</quote> of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created people accused walking dead of pandering when they introduced a character from the comics who was gay and kept him gay</quote> Are you really going to try and argue that Mass Effect: Andromeda's launch wasn't pandering?</quote> are you really going to argue gay people shouldnt exist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 08/25/18 10:53:23 PM #32:	Rad_Chad posted... yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/TAaXq7d https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:907552247] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote>yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BigSLM1993 08/25/18 10:54:14 PM #33:	DocileOrangeCup posted... Rad_Chad posted... yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth Here's the thing, I still see people say it's pandering with option 1. Because at that point "if being gay isnt even important to the character then why make them gay?" Literally cant win either way. <cite>BigSLM1993 posted [p:907552278] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>DocileOrangeCup posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote>yo. if you get a main character that happens to be gay, w/e if they make the character around being gay it's insulting to literally 100% of earth</quote></quote> Here's the thing, I still see people say it's pandering with option 1. Because at that point "if being gay isnt even important to the character then why make them gay?" Literally cant win either way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 08/25/18 10:54:46 PM #34:	masterbarf posted... Homophobes, racists, the stupid, etc believe straight, white, and male is the default way of being. They think making a character gay is a conscious decision against the default status, failing to realize that making a character straight is every bit a conscious decision and a statement as making the character gay. What else do they think, since you appear to know so much about them. ( '-') --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:907552298] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterbarf posted...</cite> <quote>Homophobes, racists, the stupid, etc believe straight, white, and male is the default way of being. They think making a character gay is a conscious decision against the default status, failing to realize that making a character straight is every bit a conscious decision and a statement as making the character gay.</quote> What else do they think, since you appear to know so much about them. ( '-')</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/25/18 11:01:51 PM #35:	Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces. <cite>nemu posted [p:907552661] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/25/18 11:12:06 PM #36:	yusiko posted... darkjedilink posted... SSJKirby posted... because diversity is pandering because it's different Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering. of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created This. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907553152] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJKirby posted...</cite> <quote>because diversity is pandering because it's different</quote> Diversity for the sake of diversity IS pandering.</quote> of course people who say pandering with a straight face will claim every case of a gay character is just diversity for the sake of diversity creating a situation where they can complain about every gay character ever created</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/25/18 11:15:21 PM #37:	nemu posted... Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces. As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story without the need to sexually insert myself into it. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907553294] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces.</quote> As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story without the need to sexually insert myself into it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/25/18 11:21:01 PM #39:	CiIantro posted... nemu posted... Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces. As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story. Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance. <cite>nemu posted [p:907553552] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces.</quote> As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story.</quote> Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarLightGlimmR 08/25/18 11:23:22 PM #40:	I don't want to play as a gay man. <cite>StarLightGlimmR posted [p:907553667] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>I don't want to play as a gay man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/25/18 11:24:56 PM #41:	masterbarf posted... Homophobes, racists, the stupid, etc believe straight, white, and male is the default way of being. Pretty much this. Anything that deviates from the "norm" is seen as pandering. GTA San Andreas got quite a bit of hate back in the day because the main character is Black. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:907553731] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterbarf posted...</cite> <quote>Homophobes, racists, the stupid, etc believe straight, white, and male is the default way of being.</quote> Pretty much this. Anything that deviates from the "norm" is seen as pandering. GTA San Andreas got quite a bit of hate back in the day because the main character is Black.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/25/18 11:29:18 PM #42:	nemu posted... CiIantro posted... nemu posted... Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces. As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story. Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance. You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907553933] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces.</quote> As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story.</quote> Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance.</quote> You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/25/18 11:31:24 PM #43:	StarLightGlimmR posted... I don't want to play as a gay man. I dont want to play as a straight man. Does that keep me from enjoying games? Nope. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907554040] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>StarLightGlimmR posted...</cite> <quote>I don't want to play as a gay man.</quote> I dont want to play as a straight man. Does that keep me from enjoying games? Nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/25/18 11:32:38 PM #44:	CiIantro posted... nemu posted... CiIantro posted... nemu posted... Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces. As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story. Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance. You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance. Two guys being intimate is not particularly endearing. It's not disgusting, but it's the same reaction of seeing two fat people being inmate. If the story is heavily involved with romance, it would not be engaging. If it's like an original Metroid thing and it's just "by the way, your character was gay all along", that wouldn't be a turn off from playing the game. But that would also just be a pointless revelation as well. <cite>nemu posted [p:907554091] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces.</quote> As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story.</quote> Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance.</quote> You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance.</quote> Two guys being intimate is not particularly endearing. It's not disgusting, but it's the same reaction of seeing two fat people being inmate. If the story is heavily involved with romance, it would not be engaging. If it's like an original Metroid thing and it's just "by the way, your character was gay all along", that wouldn't be a turn off from playing the game. But that would also just be a pointless revelation as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/25/18 11:36:25 PM #45:	nemu posted... CiIantro posted... nemu posted... CiIantro posted... nemu posted... Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces. As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story. Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance. You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance. Two guys being intimate is not particularly endearing. It's not disgusting, but it's the same reaction of seeing two fat people being inmate. If the story is heavily involved with romance, it would not be engaging. If it's like an original Metroid thing and it's just "by the way, your character was gay all along", that wouldn't be a turn off from playing the game. But that would also just be a pointless revelation as well. Well, I think that is an unfortunate way to view the world. You are incapable of appreciating a story because it doesnt sexually stimulate you, and you will miss out on quality media as a result. If I were the same way, I would be unable to enjoy virtually all media in existence. I am able to appreciate a beautiful romance story without needing to be sexually aroused by it. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907554213] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces.</quote> As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story.</quote> Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance.</quote> You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance.</quote> Two guys being intimate is not particularly endearing. It's not disgusting, but it's the same reaction of seeing two fat people being inmate. If the story is heavily involved with romance, it would not be engaging. If it's like an original Metroid thing and it's just "by the way, your character was gay all along", that wouldn't be a turn off from playing the game. But that would also just be a pointless revelation as well.</quote> Well, I think that is an unfortunate way to view the world. You are incapable of appreciating a story because it doesnt sexually stimulate you, and you will miss out on quality media as a result. If I were the same way, I would be unable to enjoy virtually all media in existence. I am able to appreciate a beautiful romance story without needing to be sexually aroused by it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarLightGlimmR 08/25/18 11:36:55 PM #46:	CiIantro posted... StarLightGlimmR posted... I don't want to play as a gay man. I dont want to play as a straight man. Does that keep me from enjoying games? Nope. So why demand a gay man to play as then? <cite>StarLightGlimmR posted [p:907554242] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StarLightGlimmR posted...</cite> <quote>I don't want to play as a gay man.</quote> I dont want to play as a straight man. Does that keep me from enjoying games? Nope.</quote> So why demand a gay man to play as then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/25/18 11:39:11 PM #47:	StarLightGlimmR posted... CiIantro posted... StarLightGlimmR posted... I don't want to play as a gay man. I dont want to play as a straight man. Does that keep me from enjoying games? Nope. So why demand a gay man to play as then? Because it is nice every once in a while. That said, it doesnt ruin a game for me because a main character doesnt share my sexual orientation, and it shouldnt for you either. Games should exist to serve multiple demographics, not just one. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907554337] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>StarLightGlimmR posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StarLightGlimmR posted...</cite> <quote>I don't want to play as a gay man.</quote> I dont want to play as a straight man. Does that keep me from enjoying games? Nope.</quote> So why demand a gay man to play as then?</quote> Because it is nice every once in a while. That said, it doesnt ruin a game for me because a main character doesnt share my sexual orientation, and it shouldnt for you either. Games should exist to serve multiple demographics, not just one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/25/18 11:45:22 PM #48:	CiIantro posted... nemu posted... CiIantro posted... nemu posted... CiIantro posted... nemu posted... Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces. As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story. Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance. You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance. Two guys being intimate is not particularly endearing. It's not disgusting, but it's the same reaction of seeing two fat people being inmate. If the story is heavily involved with romance, it would not be engaging. If it's like an original Metroid thing and it's just "by the way, your character was gay all along", that wouldn't be a turn off from playing the game. But that would also just be a pointless revelation as well. Well, I think that is an unfortunate way to view the world. You are incapable of appreciating a story because it doesnt sexually stimulate you, and you will miss out on quality media as a result. If I were the same way, I would be unable to enjoy virtually all media in existence. I am able to appreciate a beautiful romance story without needing to be sexually aroused by it. I don't think I would, as there will unlikely be any big-budget gay-focused titles unless it's a passion project. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with sexual attraction either. It's simply not engaging to follow a story of characters you have no interest in. <cite>nemu posted [p:907554601] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces.</quote> As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story.</quote> Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance.</quote> You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance.</quote> Two guys being intimate is not particularly endearing. It's not disgusting, but it's the same reaction of seeing two fat people being inmate. If the story is heavily involved with romance, it would not be engaging. If it's like an original Metroid thing and it's just "by the way, your character was gay all along", that wouldn't be a turn off from playing the game. But that would also just be a pointless revelation as well.</quote> Well, I think that is an unfortunate way to view the world. You are incapable of appreciating a story because it doesnt sexually stimulate you, and you will miss out on quality media as a result. If I were the same way, I would be unable to enjoy virtually all media in existence. I am able to appreciate a beautiful romance story without needing to be sexually aroused by it.</quote> I don't think I would, as there will unlikely be any big-budget gay-focused titles unless it's a passion project. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with sexual attraction either. It's simply not engaging to follow a story of characters you have no interest in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 08/25/18 11:49:22 PM #49:	nemu posted... CiIantro posted... nemu posted... CiIantro posted... nemu posted... CiIantro posted... nemu posted... Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces. As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story. Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance. You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance. Two guys being intimate is not particularly endearing. It's not disgusting, but it's the same reaction of seeing two fat people being inmate. If the story is heavily involved with romance, it would not be engaging. If it's like an original Metroid thing and it's just "by the way, your character was gay all along", that wouldn't be a turn off from playing the game. But that would also just be a pointless revelation as well. Well, I think that is an unfortunate way to view the world. You are incapable of appreciating a story because it doesnt sexually stimulate you, and you will miss out on quality media as a result. If I were the same way, I would be unable to enjoy virtually all media in existence. I am able to appreciate a beautiful romance story without needing to be sexually aroused by it. I don't think I would, as there will unlikely be any big-budget gay-focused titles unless it's a passion project. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with sexual attraction either. It's simply not engaging to follow a story of characters you have no interest in. And I am saying it is very narrow minded to simply lose interest in characters because their relationship choice doesnt sexually appeal you. I would say the same to any gay person who automatically writes off straight stories. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:907554796] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Most people won't find it particularly relatable if the character's story arc features romance. There's nothing wrong with gay characters in stories, but I don't think I would find it particularly engaging. I remember almost nothing of Brokeback Mountain. The pandering thing only comes in if the advertising for it heavily hinges on it. Female Ghostbusters was pandering because it couldn't stop talking about them being women. Black Panther had a lot of media coverage on the black cast, but the movie itself wasn't shoving that in people's faces.</quote> As a gay guy, I still find games engaging when they feature a straight romance. I can appreciate a good story.</quote> Ok. I don't think I could get behind the story of a guy going on a quest to save his husband. I would assume that would be the same with a lot of people. I enjoy lesbian romance novels for some reason, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be able to get behind that either. It's fine when it's an option in a game, but I just don't think there will ever be a market for a big budget title heavily featuring gay romance.</quote> You cant get behind it? Imagine being gay. Would you be physically unable to enjoy any video game because they are all straight? Are games just sex simulators for you to jack off to? I feel bad if you would be unable to enjoy an excellent game that just happened to feature a gay romance.</quote> Two guys being intimate is not particularly endearing. It's not disgusting, but it's the same reaction of seeing two fat people being inmate. If the story is heavily involved with romance, it would not be engaging. If it's like an original Metroid thing and it's just "by the way, your character was gay all along", that wouldn't be a turn off from playing the game. But that would also just be a pointless revelation as well.</quote> Well, I think that is an unfortunate way to view the world. You are incapable of appreciating a story because it doesnt sexually stimulate you, and you will miss out on quality media as a result. If I were the same way, I would be unable to enjoy virtually all media in existence. I am able to appreciate a beautiful romance story without needing to be sexually aroused by it.</quote> I don't think I would, as there will unlikely be any big-budget gay-focused titles unless it's a passion project. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with sexual attraction either. It's simply not engaging to follow a story of characters you have no interest in.</quote> And I am saying it is very narrow minded to simply lose interest in characters because their relationship choice doesnt sexually appeal you. I would say the same to any gay person who automatically writes off straight stories.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/25/18 11:49:49 PM #50:	Insecurity and regressive, pointless ideologies. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:907554816] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote>Insecurity and regressive, pointless ideologies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/25/18 11:52:56 PM #51:	CiIantro posted... And I am saying it is very narrow minded to simply lose interest in characters because their relationship choice doesnt sexually appeal you. I would say the same to any gay person who automatically writes off straight stories. It's not writing them off. There is literally no interest. Of course, this is assuming it is heavily romance focused story. Like, if the default for Shovel Knight was that Shield Knight was a dude, it wouldn't really make much difference because the story is so sparse. But there is no way I could maintain interest in a fifty hour RPG following some guy trying to save a prince of something. <cite>nemu posted [p:907554955] in Why do peo... [t:76931848]...</cite> <quote><quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> And I am saying it is very narrow minded to simply lose interest in characters because their relationship choice doesnt sexually appeal you. I would say the same to any gay person who automatically writes off straight stories.</quote> It's not writing them off. There is literally no interest. Of course, this is assuming it is heavily romance focused story. Like, if the default for Shovel Knight was that Shield Knight was a dude, it wouldn't really make much difference because the story is so sparse. But there is no way I could maintain interest in a fifty hour RPG following some guy trying to save a prince of something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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