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_BlueMonk 08/26/18 6:35:39 PM #1:	mass shooting occurs "hey now lets not get too hasty about guns" --- It's Seulgi time! <3 https://i.imgtc.com/Y9zHH1n.gif <cite>_BlueMonk posted [p:907593850] in immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>mass shooting occurs* "hey now lets not get too hasty about guns"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X-Pac_Heat 08/26/18 6:37:49 PM #2:	Yeah, truth be told, both sides are pretty hypocritical about this. <cite>X-Pac_Heat posted [p:907593961] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, truth be told, both sides are pretty hypocritical about this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deupd_u 08/26/18 6:38:28 PM #3:	One of those things is a murderer, and one of those things is a steel pipe with a handle.. --- Snipers don't shoot at paper, they shoot watermelons. https://imgur.com/jo511lG <cite>deupd_u posted [p:907593997] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>One of those things is a murderer, and one of those things is a steel pipe with a handle..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metro2 08/26/18 6:38:45 PM #4:	Citizens cause more shootings than immigrants. <cite>Metro2 posted [p:907594014] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>Citizens cause more shootings than immigrants.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 08/26/18 6:39:05 PM #5:	X-Pac_Heat posted... both sides --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:907594025] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>X-Pac_Heat posted...</cite> <quote> both sides</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/26/18 6:39:37 PM #6:	Lock her up! --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:907594058] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>Lock her up!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinksLiege 08/26/18 6:39:55 PM #7:	Metro2 posted... Citizens cause more shootings than immigrants. Home-grown terrorists are fine with these people. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. <cite>LinksLiege posted [p:907594069] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metro2 posted...</cite> <quote>Citizens cause more shootings than immigrants.</quote> Home-grown terrorists are fine with these people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/26/18 6:40:14 PM #8:	This is obvious bait but Im biting for the fun of it: Immigrants should be kicked out if they cant follow the laws here, their guests in our country and should be thankful we take them in instead of saying not our problem. Guns are a legal right in the USA, most gun owners are responsible, the few trouble makers, nut cases, and disturbed individuals should not be an excuse to trample on the rights of the millions of people who never harm anyone with their firearm. Enforce the laws we have and less bullshit happens, new laws will not prevent most shootings. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:907594091] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>This is obvious bait but Im biting for the fun of it: Immigrants should be kicked out if they cant follow the laws here, their guests in our country and should be thankful we take them in instead of saying not our problem. Guns are a legal right in the USA, most gun owners are responsible, the few trouble makers, nut cases, and disturbed individuals should not be an excuse to trample on the rights of the millions of people who never harm anyone with their firearm. Enforce the laws we have and less bullshit happens, new laws will not prevent most shootings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X-Pac_Heat 08/26/18 6:40:27 PM #9:	SageHarpuia posted... X-Pac_Heat posted... both sides Whatever. Nothing makes someone look dumb like saying "If we limit one thing it will help, but limiting the other thing won't do shit." Which is what both sides do with the gun/immigrant issue except they flip flop it for their side. How little self awareness can people have? <cite>X-Pac_Heat posted [p:907594099] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>X-Pac_Heat posted...</cite> <quote> both sides</quote></quote> Whatever. Nothing makes someone look dumb like saying "If we limit one thing it will help, but limiting the other thing won't do shit." Which is what both sides do with the gun/immigrant issue except they flip flop it for their side. How little self awareness can people have?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 08/26/18 6:41:08 PM #10:	LinksLiege posted... Metro2 posted... Citizens cause more shootings than immigrants. Home-grown terrorists are fine with these people. lolno they just blame the person who committed the act instead of the fucking gun. Same as with illegal immigrants. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:907594140] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinksLiege posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metro2 posted...</cite> <quote>Citizens cause more shootings than immigrants.</quote> Home-grown terrorists are fine with these people.</quote> lolno they just blame the person who committed the act instead of the fucking gun. Same as with illegal immigrants.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 08/26/18 6:41:54 PM #11:	X-Pac_Heat posted... SageHarpuia posted... X-Pac_Heat posted... both sides Whatever. Nothing makes someone look dumb like saying "If we limit one thing it will help, but limiting the other thing won't do shit." Which is what both sides do with the gun/immigrant issue except they flip flop it for their side. How little self awareness can people have? Guns are protected by the constitution Illegals are not --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:907594192] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>X-Pac_Heat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>X-Pac_Heat posted...</cite> <quote> both sides</quote></quote> Whatever. Nothing makes someone look dumb like saying "If we limit one thing it will help, but limiting the other thing won't do shit." Which is what both sides do with the gun/immigrant issue except they flip flop it for their side. How little self awareness can people have?</quote> Guns are protected by the constitution Illegals are not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/26/18 7:05:15 PM #12:	Well neither of these things would be an issue if humans didn't exist and the only reason humans exist is because god created us, so if just find a way to uninvent god, all problems will be instantly solved. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:907595402] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>Well neither of these things would be an issue if humans didn't exist and the only reason humans exist is because god created us, so if just find a way to uninvent god, all problems will be instantly solved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/26/18 7:08:51 PM #13:	Illegal immigrants killing citizens just shows that we need stronger border security. There shouldnt be any acceptable amount of Americans being killed or raped by illegals. ~~Also inb4 some dumbass says oh so killings by Americans are totally okay??.~~ --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:907595584] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>Illegal immigrants killing citizens just shows that we need stronger border security. There shouldnt be any acceptable amount of Americans being killed or raped by illegals. Also inb4 some dumbass says oh so killings by Americans are totally okay??.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 08/26/18 7:11:02 PM #14:	Metro2 posted... Citizens cause more shootings than immigrants. I guess that means open borders then. --- https://i.imgtc.com/3owskMW.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:907595706] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metro2 posted...</cite> <quote>Citizens cause more shootings than immigrants.</quote> I guess that means open borders then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 7:31:03 PM #15:	X-Pac_Heat posted... Whatever. Nothing makes someone look dumb like saying "If we limit one thing it will help, but limiting the other thing won't do shit." But it's true in this case, you're using a false equivalence. Gun control is proven to reduce gun violence while undocumented people do not commit a significant amount of murders in the US, and are less likely to do so than citizens. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907596699] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>X-Pac_Heat posted...</cite> <quote>Whatever. Nothing makes someone look dumb like saying "If we limit one thing it will help, but limiting the other thing won't do shit." </quote> But it's true in this case, you're using a false equivalence. Gun control is proven to reduce gun violence while undocumented people do not commit a significant amount of murders in the US, and are less likely to do so than citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X-Pac_Heat 08/26/18 7:35:39 PM #16:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Gun control is proven to reduce gun violence https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/17/do-tougher-gun-laws-lead-to-dramatically-lower-rates-of-gun-violence Only if you cherry pick data, but please feel free to show your sources. <cite>X-Pac_Heat posted [p:907596928] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Gun control is proven to reduce gun violence</quote> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/17/do-tougher-gun-laws-lead-to-dramatically-lower-rates-of-gun-violence Only if you cherry pick data, but please feel free to show your sources.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 7:43:17 PM #17:	Actually, cherry picking data is used to argue against tougher gun laws. People love bringing up Chicago for example. The facts are pretty clear here. https://content.njdc.com/media/media/2015/12/04/guns-mainchart-1203.png <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907597304] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>Actually, cherry picking data is used to argue against tougher gun laws. People love bringing up Chicago for example. The facts are pretty clear here. https://content.njdc.com/media/media/2015/12/04/guns-mainchart-1203.png</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 08/26/18 7:45:50 PM #18:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Actually, cherry picking data is used to argue against tougher gun laws. People love bringing up Chicago for example. The facts are pretty clear here. https://content.njdc.com/media/media/2015/12/04/guns-mainchart-1203.png why does every liberal "study" include suicide in gun death statistics? it's so disingenuous <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:907597455] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, cherry picking data is used to argue against tougher gun laws. People love bringing up Chicago for example. The facts are pretty clear here. https://content.njdc.com/media/media/2015/12/04/guns-mainchart-1203.png</quote> why does every liberal "study" include suicide in gun death statistics? it's so disingenuous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 7:50:14 PM #19:	Milkman5 posted... why does every liberal "study" include suicide in gun death statistics? it's so disingenuous Because if you were to look only at gun murders nothing changes. Louisiana, Missouri, South Carolina, etc the deadliest. Hawaii, New Hampshire, Oregon, etc the safest. A better question is why do conservatives ignore this? It's so disingenuous. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907597686] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>why does every liberal "study" include suicide in gun death statistics? it's so disingenuous</quote> Because if you were to look only at gun murders nothing changes. Louisiana, Missouri, South Carolina, etc the deadliest. Hawaii, New Hampshire, Oregon, etc the safest. A better question is why do conservatives ignore this? It's so disingenuous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 08/26/18 7:53:14 PM #20:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Gun control is proven to reduce gun violence Doesn't Chicago have some very tough gun control laws? --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:907597823] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Gun control is proven to reduce gun violence</quote> Doesn't Chicago have some very tough gun control laws?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 7:55:58 PM #21:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Actually, cherry picking data is used to argue against tougher gun laws. People love bringing up Chicago for example. DirkDiggles posted... Doesn't Chicago have some very tough gun control laws? right on schedule <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907597960] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, cherry picking data is used to argue against tougher gun laws. People love bringing up Chicago for example. </quote> <cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't Chicago have some very tough gun control laws?</quote> right on schedule</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 08/26/18 7:57:58 PM #22:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Broseph_Stalin posted... Actually, cherry picking data is used to argue against tougher gun laws. People love bringing up Chicago for example. DirkDiggles posted... Doesn't Chicago have some very tough gun control laws? right on schedule So, it doesn't fit your narrative. Let's ignore it. --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:907598044] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, cherry picking data is used to argue against tougher gun laws. People love bringing up Chicago for example. </quote> <cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't Chicago have some very tough gun control laws?</quote> right on schedule</quote> So, it doesn't fit your narrative. Let's ignore it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 7:58:41 PM #23:	DirkDiggles posted... So, it doesn't fit your narrative. Let's ignore it. Can you like, read the topic? You'd look a lot less dumb. There's not even that many posts. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907598076] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>So, it doesn't fit your narrative. Let's ignore it. </quote> Can you like, read the topic? You'd look a lot less dumb. There's not even that many posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 08/26/18 7:59:50 PM #24:	Broseph_Stalin posted... A better question is why do conservatives ignore this? It's so disingenuous. because why would anyone care about the method someone commits suicide? <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:907598134] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>A better question is why do conservatives ignore this? It's so disingenuous.</quote> because why would anyone care about the method someone commits suicide?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 8:00:33 PM #25:	Milkman5 posted... because why would anyone care about the method someone commits suicide? Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907598166] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>because why would anyone care about the method someone commits suicide? </quote> Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 08/26/18 8:01:39 PM #26:	By all means, please tell us where stiffer gun control has actually lowered gun violence. --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:907598216] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>By all means, please tell us where stiffer gun control has actually lowered gun violence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 8:02:44 PM #27:	DirkDiggles posted... By all means, please tell us where stiffer gun control has actually lowered gun violence. No seriously dude, read the topic. I'm embarrassed for you right now. Broseph_Stalin posted... The facts are pretty clear here. https://content.njdc.com/media/media/2015/12/04/guns-mainchart-1203.png <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907598277] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>By all means, please tell us where stiffer gun control has actually lowered gun violence. </quote> No seriously dude, read the topic. I'm embarrassed for you right now. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>The facts are pretty clear here. https://content.njdc.com/media/media/2015/12/04/guns-mainchart-1203.png</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 08/26/18 8:02:59 PM #28:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data? it inflates the statistics. Changes them. Mainstream media articles literally lump suicide with school shootings, I'm not even joking. They say things like "There have been 100 school shootings this year!" and 98 of them will be someone depressed killing themselves at a school with a gun. Liberals are obsessed with gun hysteria to the point they intentionally lie about it to make others more hysterical about it than they already are. <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:907598299] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data?</quote> it inflates the statistics. Changes them. Mainstream media articles literally lump suicide with school shootings, I'm not even joking. They say things like "There have been 100 school shootings this year!" and 98 of them will be someone depressed killing themselves at a school with a gun. Liberals are obsessed with gun hysteria to the point they intentionally lie about it to make others more hysterical about it than they already are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 08/26/18 8:04:02 PM #29:	Glad youre finally on board. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:907598345] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>Glad youre finally on board.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 8:04:14 PM #30:	Milkman5 posted... it inflates the statistics. Changes them. It does not change the fact that those same states still have the highest gun homicides. You tried, it was a poor deflection. Move on. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907598355] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>it inflates the statistics. Changes them. </quote> It does not change the fact that those same states still have the highest gun homicides. You tried, it was a poor deflection. Move on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 08/26/18 8:05:05 PM #31:	Milkman5 posted... Broseph_Stalin posted... Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data? it inflates the statistics. Changes them. Mainstream media articles literally lump suicide with school shootings, I'm not even joking. They say things like "There have been 100 school shootings this year!" and 98 of them will be someone depressed killing themselves at a school with a gun. Liberals are obsessed with gun hysteria to the point they intentionally lie about it to make others more hysterical about it than they already are. how do you define a school shooting if not a shooting that occurs at a school? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:907598404] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data?</quote> it inflates the statistics. Changes them. Mainstream media articles literally lump suicide with school shootings, I'm not even joking. They say things like "There have been 100 school shootings this year!" and 98 of them will be someone depressed killing themselves at a school with a gun. Liberals are obsessed with gun hysteria to the point they intentionally lie about it to make others more hysterical about it than they already are.</quote> how do you define a school shooting if not a shooting that occurs at a school?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EpicMickeyDrew 08/26/18 8:08:10 PM #32:	Fam_Fam posted... Milkman5 posted... Broseph_Stalin posted... Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data? it inflates the statistics. Changes them. Mainstream media articles literally lump suicide with school shootings, I'm not even joking. They say things like "There have been 100 school shootings this year!" and 98 of them will be someone depressed killing themselves at a school with a gun. Liberals are obsessed with gun hysteria to the point they intentionally lie about it to make others more hysterical about it than they already are. how do you define a school shooting if not a shooting that occurs at a school? A shooting that targets individuals other then the perpetrator at a school. --- Just how, pray tell, does your dick "take life"? How could a dick take a life? - XciteMe <cite>EpicMickeyDrew posted [p:907598565] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data?</quote> it inflates the statistics. Changes them. Mainstream media articles literally lump suicide with school shootings, I'm not even joking. They say things like "There have been 100 school shootings this year!" and 98 of them will be someone depressed killing themselves at a school with a gun. Liberals are obsessed with gun hysteria to the point they intentionally lie about it to make others more hysterical about it than they already are.</quote> how do you define a school shooting if not a shooting that occurs at a school?</quote> A shooting that targets individuals other then the perpetrator at a school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 08/26/18 8:08:45 PM #33:	Broseph_Stalin posted... No seriously dude, read the topic. I'm embarrassed for you right now. Oh yeah, I forgot, isn't the majority of Chicago's gun violence caused by illegal guns? Doesn't that make your little list irrelevant? --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:907598590] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>No seriously dude, read the topic. I'm embarrassed for you right now.</quote> Oh yeah, I forgot, isn't the majority of Chicago's gun violence caused by illegal guns? Doesn't that make your little list irrelevant?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 8:10:14 PM #34:	DirkDiggles posted... Oh yeah, I forgot, isn't the majority of Chicago's gun violence caused by guns obtained in more violent states? Yes. DirkDiggles posted... Doesn't that support the data? Yes. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907598668] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, I forgot, isn't the majority of Chicago's gun violence caused by guns obtained in more violent states?</quote> Yes. <cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't that support the data?</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/26/18 8:10:49 PM #35:	we need better border security to keep out illegal immigrants! Fixed that for you, TC. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:907598705] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><quote>we need better border security to keep out illegal immigrants!</quote> Fixed that for you, TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/26/18 8:11:08 PM #36:	Is there a gun statistic that rules out both extreme high crime areas and suicides? That would be good to see. High crime areas are their own problem that shouldn't really be lumped in with gun issues, and suicides, while sad, would still happen without guns. <cite>nemu posted [p:907598721] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>Is there a gun statistic that rules out both extreme high crime areas and suicides? That would be good to see. High crime areas are their own problem that shouldn't really be lumped in with gun issues, and suicides, while sad, would still happen without guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/26/18 8:12:42 PM #37:	DirkDiggles posted... By all means, please tell us where stiffer gun control has actually lowered gun violence. China. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:907598814] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>By all means, please tell us where stiffer gun control has actually lowered gun violence.</quote> China.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 08/26/18 8:12:51 PM #38:	nemu posted... Is there a gun statistic that rules out both extreme high crime areas and suicides? That would be good to see. High crime areas are their own problem that shouldn't really be lumped in with gun issues, and suicides, while sad, would still happen without guns. Suicides are significantly more likely to be successful with a gun and waiting period on gun sales have shown to decrease the amount of suicide by guns. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:907598825] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is there a gun statistic that rules out both extreme high crime areas and suicides? That would be good to see. High crime areas are their own problem that shouldn't really be lumped in with gun issues, and suicides, while sad, would still happen without guns.</quote> Suicides are significantly more likely to be successful with a gun and waiting period on gun sales have shown to decrease the amount of suicide by guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kayoticdreamz 08/26/18 8:16:56 PM #39:	why is wanting a secure border related to the 2nd amendment? <cite>kayoticdreamz posted [p:907599029] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>why is wanting a secure border related to the 2nd amendment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/26/18 8:16:57 PM #40:	Tmaster148 posted... nemu posted... Is there a gun statistic that rules out both extreme high crime areas and suicides? That would be good to see. High crime areas are their own problem that shouldn't really be lumped in with gun issues, and suicides, while sad, would still happen without guns. Suicides are significantly more likely to be successful with a gun and waiting period on gun sales have shown to decrease the amount of suicide by guns. It looks like it's about 10% give or take, which is certainly not a bad thing, but not significant enough to really factor into it. It still means plenty of people either wait to get the gun or just go with an alternate method. <cite>nemu posted [p:907599030] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Is there a gun statistic that rules out both extreme high crime areas and suicides? That would be good to see. High crime areas are their own problem that shouldn't really be lumped in with gun issues, and suicides, while sad, would still happen without guns.</quote> Suicides are significantly more likely to be successful with a gun and waiting period on gun sales have shown to decrease the amount of suicide by guns.</quote> It looks like it's about 10% give or take, which is certainly not a bad thing, but not significant enough to really factor into it. It still means plenty of people either wait to get the gun or just go with an alternate method.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 08/26/18 8:18:51 PM #41:	Tmaster148 posted... Suicides are significantly more likely to be successful with a gun and waiting period on gun sales have shown to decrease the amount of suicide by guns. does it decrease amount of suicide? I hate how liberals talk about homicide and suicide. It's always.. it would decrease suicide (by guns) and homicide (by guns) If they banned guns and the overall homicide and suicide rates stay the same, then what exactly does that accomplish? <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:907599122] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Suicides are significantly more likely to be successful with a gun and waiting period on gun sales have shown to decrease the amount of suicide by guns.</quote> does it decrease amount of suicide? I hate how liberals talk about homicide and suicide. It's always.. it would decrease suicide (by guns) and homicide (by guns) If they banned guns and the overall homicide and suicide rates stay the same, then what exactly does that accomplish?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 08/26/18 8:19:45 PM #42:	Milkman5 posted... Tmaster148 posted... Suicides are significantly more likely to be successful with a gun and waiting period on gun sales have shown to decrease the amount of suicide by guns. does it decrease amount of suicide? I hate how liberals talk about homicide and suicide. It's always.. it would decrease suicide (by guns) and homicide (by guns) If they banned guns and the overall homicide and suicide rates stay the same, then what exactly does that accomplish? Maybe if you took the time to read you would have that answer. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:907599181] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Suicides are significantly more likely to be successful with a gun and waiting period on gun sales have shown to decrease the amount of suicide by guns.</quote> does it decrease amount of suicide? I hate how liberals talk about homicide and suicide. It's always.. it would decrease suicide (by guns) and homicide (by guns) If they banned guns and the overall homicide and suicide rates stay the same, then what exactly does that accomplish?</quote> Maybe if you took the time to read you would have that answer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 08/26/18 8:20:33 PM #43:	EpicMickeyDrew posted... Fam_Fam posted... Milkman5 posted... Broseph_Stalin posted... Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data? it inflates the statistics. Changes them. Mainstream media articles literally lump suicide with school shootings, I'm not even joking. They say things like "There have been 100 school shootings this year!" and 98 of them will be someone depressed killing themselves at a school with a gun. Liberals are obsessed with gun hysteria to the point they intentionally lie about it to make others more hysterical about it than they already are. how do you define a school shooting if not a shooting that occurs at a school? A shooting that targets individuals other then the perpetrator at a school. why must it target other individuals, where in the term "school shooting" is that specified? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:907599223] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>EpicMickeyDrew posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Why bring up suicide statistics when omitting them doesn't change the data?</quote> it inflates the statistics. Changes them. Mainstream media articles literally lump suicide with school shootings, I'm not even joking. They say things like "There have been 100 school shootings this year!" and 98 of them will be someone depressed killing themselves at a school with a gun. Liberals are obsessed with gun hysteria to the point they intentionally lie about it to make others more hysterical about it than they already are.</quote> how do you define a school shooting if not a shooting that occurs at a school?</quote> A shooting that targets individuals other then the perpetrator at a school.</quote> why must it target other individuals, where in the term "school shooting" is that specified?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 08/26/18 8:21:46 PM #44:	Tmaster148 posted... Maybe if you took the time to read you would have that answer. you said it decreases the suicide by guns, not suicide. do you not see how those statements are radically different? <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:907599283] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe if you took the time to read you would have that answer.</quote> you said it decreases the suicide by guns, not suicide. do you not see how those statements are radically different?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 08/26/18 8:22:18 PM #45:	Fun game. illegal immigrant kills American "Hold on you racists this shouldn't be a political issue!" White guy born in America kills American "REEE BAN GUNS! REPEAL 2ND AMENDMENT!" --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Gkh_9hyi8 <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:907599308] in immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote>Fun game. illegal immigrant kills American* "Hold on you racists this shouldn't be a political issue!" White guy born in America kills American "REEE BAN GUNS! REPEAL 2ND AMENDMENT!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 8:23:05 PM #46:	Milkman5 posted... If they banned guns and the overall homicide and suicide rates stay the same, then what exactly does that accomplish? But the overall homicide rates are ALSO lower in states with more gun control. Move. On. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907599341] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>If they banned guns and the overall homicide and suicide rates stay the same, then what exactly does that accomplish? </quote> But the overall homicide rates are ALSO lower in states with more gun control. Move. On.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 08/26/18 8:24:07 PM #47:	Milkman5 posted... Tmaster148 posted... Maybe if you took the time to read you would have that answer. you said it decreases the suicide by guns, not suicide. do you not see how those statements are radically different? You're decreasing the amount of suicides done by a method that is most successful of working. So yes you would decrease the amount of suicides even if everyone tried a different method. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:907599398] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe if you took the time to read you would have that answer.</quote> you said it decreases the suicide by guns, not suicide. do you not see how those statements are radically different?</quote> You're decreasing the amount of suicides done by a method that is most successful of working. So yes you would decrease the amount of suicides even if everyone tried a different method.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kayoticdreamz 08/26/18 8:24:17 PM #48:	Vyrulisse posted... Fun game. illegal immigrant kills American "Hold on you racists this shouldn't be a political issue!" White guy born in America kills American "REEE BAN GUNS! REPEAL 2ND AMENDMENT!" such is the news cycle <cite>kayoticdreamz posted [p:907599410] in immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>Fun game. illegal immigrant kills American* "Hold on you racists this shouldn't be a political issue!" White guy born in America kills American "REEE BAN GUNS! REPEAL 2ND AMENDMENT!"</quote> such is the news cycle</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaTwistedGuns 08/26/18 8:24:51 PM #49:	X-Pac_Heat posted... Yeah, truth be told, both sides are pretty hypocritical about this. Indeed but people are so blind to their party they don't see it or maybe they are in denial. --- https://imgur.com/2PsT4CN https://imgur.com/SsQ4QID https://imgur.com/OCBDT2a https://imgur.com/P3kW52B <cite>DaTwistedGuns posted [p:907599442] in *immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>X-Pac_Heat posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, truth be told, both sides are pretty hypocritical about this.</quote> Indeed but people are so blind to their party they don't see it or maybe they are in denial.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/26/18 8:25:07 PM #50:	Vyrulisse posted... Fun game. illegal immigrant kills American "Hold on you racists this shouldn't be a political issue!" White guy born in America kills American "REEE BAN GUNS! REPEAL 2ND AMENDMENT!" DaTwistedGuns posted... Indeed but people are so blind to their party they don't see it or maybe they are in denial. Broseph_Stalin posted... you're using a false equivalence. Gun control is proven to reduce gun violence while undocumented people do not commit a significant amount of murders in the US, and are less likely to do so than citizens. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907599449] in immigrant... [t:76939508]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>Fun game. illegal immigrant kills American* "Hold on you racists this shouldn't be a political issue!" White guy born in America kills American "REEE BAN GUNS! REPEAL 2ND AMENDMENT!"</quote> <cite>DaTwistedGuns posted...</cite> <quote>Indeed but people are so blind to their party they don't see it or maybe they are in denial.</quote> <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>you're using a false equivalence. Gun control is proven to reduce gun violence while undocumented people do not commit a significant amount of murders in the US, and are less likely to do so than citizens.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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