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FrisbeeDude
08/26/18 9:38:14 PM
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mvxv9y/why-are-so-many-mass-shootings-committed-by-young-white-men-623

When Dylann Storm Roof ended Bible study at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in South Carolina and unleashed a hurricane of bullets, he secured himself a place in the dark history of young, white American males who kill strangers indiscriminately. Of course, we've known for some time that most violent crimes are committed by young people, and that men are more violence-prone than women, but in recent cases like Roof's, Sandy Hook's Adam Lanza, and the Aurora Theater's James Holmes, it seems like this newer breed of psychopath is more dangerous than its predecessors.

When trying to decipher gun violence, it's tempting to focus on impoverished minority neighborhoods defined by structural woes like mass incarceration, poverty, lack of education, and so on. But research shows that mass shootings are primarily committed by white malesthe most privileged class in society. So why are they the ones who snap? And is calling them "mentally ill" a way to avoid talking about race?

"If you look at how the James Holmes case has played out, it's amazing how the themes [of other shootings] line up," true-crime author Stephen Singular, who collaborated with his wife, Joyce, on the new book The Spiral Notebook: The Aurora Theater Shooter and the Epidemic of Mass Violence Committed by American Youth, tells VICE. "Most of these young white shootersthey're not underprivileged, they have so many advantages, particularly in the Holmes case. He was dealing with an inner reality that he didn't know how to contend with."

As Mother Jones reported, "Since 1982, there have been at least 70 mass shootings across the country... Forty four of the killers were white males. Only one of them was a woman." So white men have been responsible for about 63 percent of mass shootings in that span, despite comprising a far smaller portion of the total population. And while the motives for mass murder vary from perpetrator to perpetrator, since the Columbine school shooting in 1999, there has been a remarkable consistencyif not uniformityin the age, gender, and race of the people who carry out these egregious crimes.

According to FBI arrest data, the peak ages for violent crime is 1624. "This is a period of substantial transition in an individual's life, when they're less likely to have significant attachments in their life that deter them from criminal violence," Pete Simi, an associate professor of criminology at the University of Nebraska, tells VICE. "Those of us who are not committing crimes on a regular basis, [it's] largely because there are constraints in our liveswe have things to lose."

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catboy0_0
08/26/18 9:39:13 PM
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because Chad stole his crush
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DarthAragorn
08/26/18 9:39:35 PM
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GigaSPX
08/26/18 9:43:31 PM
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There was another one today in downtown Jacksonville Florida where a 24 year old shot up a Madden tournament for being a sore loser. 3 people died including himself and 9 sent to the hospital for gun wounds.
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GiftedACIII
08/26/18 9:45:34 PM
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This will sure to be a topic
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DrizztLink
08/26/18 9:46:25 PM
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KhanJohnny
08/26/18 9:47:34 PM
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Young. WHITE. Men.
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VTBM
08/26/18 9:47:46 PM
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joestarrr
08/26/18 9:48:23 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
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gna647
08/26/18 9:50:32 PM
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GigaSPX posted...
There was another one today in downtown Jacksonville Florida where a 24 year old shot up a Madden tournament for being a sore loser. 3 people died including himself and 9 sent to the hospital for gun wounds.


Captain obvious
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GOOMFalse
08/26/18 9:52:42 PM
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Systematic oppression
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Blue_Dream87
08/26/18 9:53:55 PM
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Hayame Zero
08/26/18 9:54:54 PM
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GOOMFalse posted...
Systematic oppression


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrU8KUiBQaY" data-time="

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ManBeast462
08/26/18 9:55:24 PM
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Its nothing compared to a Chicago weekend if theres nice weather.
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Roshon
08/26/18 9:56:22 PM
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Theyre weak, entitled, spoiled and cant handle adversity.
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Solar_Crimson
08/26/18 9:59:00 PM
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ManBeast462 posted...
Its nothing compared to a Chicago weekend if theres nice weather.

Why do you guys always deflect to Chicago?
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Funbazooka
08/26/18 9:59:54 PM
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WaterLink
08/26/18 10:00:33 PM
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Cuz white peeps make up 60+% of the population got a higher standard to hold up to so more of them dont hold up to that standard and some of them that dont live up to that standard go crazy and some of them that go crazy feel like killing themselves and some that feel like killing themselves feel like they might as well take some with them
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Ammonitida
08/26/18 10:03:00 PM
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So white men have been responsible for about 63 percent of mass shootings in that span, despite comprising a far smaller portion of the total population.


This is a sad attempt at trying to make mass shootings by white men look disproportionate. When you exclude the female population (which account for a negligible number of mass shooters), and only factor in the male population, white males are actually under-represented as mass shooters. Basically, white males account for 60% of the male population in the US, but only 55% of mass shooters from the period between 2000-2017 based on data collected by Mother Jones. And that 55% includes hapas like Elliot Rodger and Lebanese Arabs like John Zawahri.
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Ammonitida
08/26/18 10:05:00 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
ManBeast462 posted...
Its nothing compared to a Chicago weekend if theres nice weather.

Why do you guys always deflect to Chicago?


Why does Frisbee only post topics attacking white people and why do you never call him out?
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FrisbeeDude
08/26/18 10:06:49 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
ManBeast462 posted...
Its nothing compared to a Chicago weekend if theres nice weather.

Why do you guys always deflect to Chicago?


Why does Frisbee only post topics attacking white people and why do you never call him out?


a good sign of a troll is one who accuses me of posting topics attacking white people
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Ammonitida
08/26/18 10:07:42 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
ManBeast462 posted...
Its nothing compared to a Chicago weekend if theres nice weather.

Why do you guys always deflect to Chicago?


Why does Frisbee only post topics attacking white people and why do you never call him out?


me of posting topics attacking white people


That's all you ever do. A good sign of a bigot filled with hatred.
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FrisbeeDude
08/26/18 10:09:09 PM
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catboy0_0
08/26/18 10:10:46 PM
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Why are so many FrisbeeDude topics about young white men???
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GigaSPX
08/26/18 10:11:17 PM
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gna647 posted...
GigaSPX posted...
There was another one today in downtown Jacksonville Florida where a 24 year old shot up a Madden tournament for being a sore loser. 3 people died including himself and 9 sent to the hospital for gun wounds.


Captain obvious

Well sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but this all happened 30 minutes away from me so take your high ass down.
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DarkKitsune69
08/26/18 10:11:36 PM
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Roshon posted...
Theyre weak, entitled, spoiled and cant handle adversity.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76934243

Future shooter? :thinkingemoji:
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iron jojo
08/26/18 10:23:24 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
ManBeast462 posted...
Its nothing compared to a Chicago weekend if theres nice weather.

Why do you guys always deflect to Chicago?

Why do you guys always run away from it?
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FrisbeeDude
08/26/18 10:26:14 PM
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iron jojo posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
ManBeast462 posted...
Its nothing compared to a Chicago weekend if theres nice weather.

Why do you guys always deflect to Chicago?

Why do you guys always run away from it?


we dont. however, yall only bring it up as some sort of critique on the black ethos
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Sephiroth1288
08/26/18 10:28:58 PM
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How come the people who connect white men with mass shootings never bring up how black and hispanic men commit a disproportionate amount of murders overall
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smoliske
08/26/18 10:34:45 PM
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@joestarrr posted...
DrizztLink posted...
blackpopeiseem


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MutantJohn
08/26/18 10:37:16 PM
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I think it's a fair question, actually. Analyzing the demographic of mass shooters is a problem worth investigating as it may lead law enforcement to stop these people before they take lives.
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Dark_Spiret
08/26/18 10:44:10 PM
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so 63% of mass shooters are white and the white population takes up around 60% of the US. that seems pretty inline with demographics.
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WaterLink
08/26/18 10:45:40 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
I think it's a fair question, actually. Analyzing the demographic of mass shooters is a problem worth investigating as it may lead law enforcement to stop these people before they take lives.

Yeah it's a pretty fair question. If white men do more mass shootings then why are white men still being outclassed in the murder statistic? Sounds like they just have a higher completion% and more YPA, which is why they're more wanted at the QB position.

this was a joke trying to lighten the mood, mods, not being serious. Not advocating anything
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Capn Circus
08/26/18 10:52:13 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
So white men have been responsible for about 63 percent of mass shootings in that span, despite comprising a far smaller portion of the total population.


This is a sad attempt at trying to make mass shootings by white men look disproportionate. When you exclude the female population (which account for a negligible number of mass shooters), and only factor in the male population, white males are actually under-represented as mass shooters. Basically, white males account for 60% of the male population in the US, but only 55% of mass shooters from the period between 2000-2017 based on data collected by Mother Jones. And that 55% includes hapas like Elliot Rodger and Lebanese Arabs like John Zawahri.

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Ammonitida
08/26/18 11:08:28 PM
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Dark_Spiret posted...
so 63% of mass shooters are white and the white population takes up around 60% of the US. that seems pretty inline with demographics.


They'll retort with, "but but..white males are not 60% of the population!". That's what the article does in order to falsely portray white men as "over-represented" in this type of crime. What they are too stupid to realize is that if you just compare the male population of the US (exclude females entirely), the math works out about the same.
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apocalyptic_4
08/26/18 11:11:02 PM
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KamenRiderBlade
08/26/18 11:12:38 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
"but but..white males are not 60% of the population!". That's what the article does in order to falsely portray white men as "over-represented" in this type of crime. What they are too stupid to realize is that if you just compare the male population of the US (exclude females entirely), the math works out about the same.
Evidence to back your claims!

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045217
Population estimates as of July 1, 2017:

76.6% of the population considers themselves "White"
60.7% of the population considers themselves "White of non-(Hispanic or Latino) heritage"

50.8% of the US population is female
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Ammonitida
08/26/18 11:13:09 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
I think it's a fair question, actually. Analyzing the demographic of mass shooters is a problem worth investigating as it may lead law enforcement to stop these people before they take lives.


There's a lot of data already available, and the only consistency is gender, like with all other violent crimes.
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Delirious_Beard
08/26/18 11:16:09 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
because Chad stole his crush

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FLUFFYGERM
08/26/18 11:19:34 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
How come the people who connect white men with mass shootings never bring up how black and hispanic men commit a disproportionate amount of murders overall


shhhh facts have no place here
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CruelBuffalo
08/26/18 11:21:24 PM
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So do any of you actually care or are you just gonna shit post in order to try to attack someone's racial background
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ThanksUglyGod
08/26/18 11:24:41 PM
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What about CHICAGO GODDAMMIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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FrisbeeDude
08/26/18 11:41:26 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
How come the people who connect white men with mass shootings never bring up how black and hispanic men commit a disproportionate amount of murders overall


shhhh facts have no place here


why are you guys so defensive about this
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Capn Circus
08/26/18 11:54:49 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
How come the people who connect white men with mass shootings never bring up how black and hispanic men commit a disproportionate amount of murders overall


shhhh facts have no place here


why are you guys so defensive about this


We've already pointed out the flaws of your OP source. Do you have any response?

There's a population in the US that commits 50% of all homicides but makes up less than 10% of the population.

I'd say that's much more of a discrepancy than what you posted.
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Lorenzo_2003
08/27/18 12:19:07 AM
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Well, this turned out to be a flopic really fast. It's not a white or POC issue. It's a young male issue. Dang feminists need to work harder to achieve equal representation.
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Bishop9800
08/27/18 12:28:38 AM
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Capn Circus posted...
There's a population in the US that commits 50% of all homicides but makes up less than 10% of the population.


Who is it?
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KamenRiderBlade
08/27/18 12:35:45 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
It's not a white or POC issue. It's a young male issue. Dang feminists need to work harder to achieve equal representation.
It's more of a "How did you raise your child" issue.

Too many kids were raised under the "we're all special, everybody is a winner, we all get participation trophies non-sense".

They weren't taught useful values like:
- Traditional values of hard work & dedication
- Accept the reality that not everybody can be a winner (Too much success bias influence)
- That there will always be people better than you despite the amount of hard work you may put in
- Learn to be a graceful loser
- Learn to respect others along with human lives
- Learn to co-exist in society with all sorts of other people and be peaceful with people who are different
- Violence should always be a absolute last resort and not used on petty things like losing a video game competition
- Life should be sacred and not treated trivially
- Learn to see things from other peoples perspectives, not just be selfish and only look at your own PoV.
- Life is about long term, not short term events like the results of a "Video Game Competition"
Just look at the San Diego incident where a young 18 y/o YouTuber who was a CS:GO skins trader lost his account and took his Ferrari and headed in the wrong direction to kill himself and others which resulted in the death of a Mother & young child.
- Learn to be respectful, sportsman-like, honorable, & humble in a competitive scene.
- etc.
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/27/18 12:37:22 AM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
There's a population in the US that commits 50% of all homicides but makes up less than 10% of the population.


Who is it?


Doctors
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smoliske
08/27/18 12:54:05 AM
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