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Cheese_Crackers 08/27/18 8:27:13 PM #51:	LedZeppelin posted... hard to say exactly what the reasons are but i wish they could get their shit together. africans are breeding like rabbits and this world is already overpopulated with enough dirt poor with no quality of life. Easier said than done. Poor education and poverty mean that they can't afford (or don't even know about) contraception. Even if they could afford it, there's evidence that people in poor countries try for more kids so someone will help with their chores and bring in more money; plus they likely don't have satisfying careers and family is their only source of joy. --- Though the fear of death is a common one, the fear of life is a more rational one. <cite>Cheese_Crackers posted [p:907658646] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>LedZeppelin posted...</cite> <quote>hard to say exactly what the reasons are but i wish they could get their shit together. africans are breeding like rabbits and this world is already overpopulated with enough dirt poor with no quality of life.</quote> Easier said than done. Poor education and poverty mean that they can't afford (or don't even know about) contraception. Even if they could afford it, there's evidence that people in poor countries try for more kids so someone will help with their chores and bring in more money; plus they likely don't have satisfying careers and family is their only source of joy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerfulSageIRL 08/27/18 8:33:24 PM #52:	it's almost as though having all your wealth and natural resources stolen, your land colonized, and a significant number of your people taken into slavery, might have a negative effect on an area <cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted [p:907658953] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>it's almost as though having all your wealth and natural resources stolen, your land colonized, and a significant number of your people taken into slavery, might have a negative effect on an area</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 08/27/18 8:34:35 PM #53:	Dash_Harber posted... the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600. Sure, but not in a good way. The colonialism of 600 involved more slavery. The Arab slave trade persisted longer than the European slave trade in Africa too, so it's not something that only went on for a short period of time. They would usually castrate the male slaves too. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:907659026] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote> the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600. </quote> Sure, but not in a good way. The colonialism of 600 involved more slavery. The Arab slave trade persisted longer than the European slave trade in Africa too, so it's not something that only went on for a short period of time. They would usually castrate the male slaves too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/27/18 8:43:03 PM #54:	Sure, but not in a good way. The colonialism of 600 involved more slavery. The Arab slave trade persisted longer than the European slave trade in Africa too, so it's not something that only went on for a short period of time. They would usually castrate the male slaves too. I'd have to see some some research on the 'more slavery' thing. Triangle Trade was literally industrialized slavery on an unprecedented scale. As for castration, that was incredibly common outside of the Arab world at that time, too, so I'm not sure why that would even be brought into consideration. Regardless, you seem to be trying to make this into an argument about whose colonialism was more morally acceptable. I'm not making that judgement. Any slavery is bad. All I've been saying this entire time is that you can't lump all of Africa in together and that colonialism had an undeniable effect on Sub-Saharan Africa to this day that can not be discounted. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:907659467] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><quote>Sure, but not in a good way. The colonialism of 600 involved more slavery. The Arab slave trade persisted longer than the European slave trade in Africa too, so it's not something that only went on for a short period of time. They would usually castrate the male slaves too.</quote> I'd have to see some some research on the 'more slavery' thing. Triangle Trade was literally industrialized slavery on an unprecedented scale. As for castration, that was incredibly common outside of the Arab world at that time, too, so I'm not sure why that would even be brought into consideration. Regardless, you seem to be trying to make this into an argument about whose colonialism was more morally acceptable. I'm not making that judgement. Any slavery is bad. All I've been saying this entire time is that you can't lump all of Africa in together and that colonialism had an undeniable effect on Sub-Saharan Africa to this day that can not be discounted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 08/27/18 9:03:33 PM #56:	Dash_Harber posted... I'd have to see some some research on the 'more slavery' thing. Triangle Trade was literally industrialized slavery on an unprecedented scale. As for castration, that was incredibly common outside of the Arab world at that time, too, so I'm not sure why that would even be brought into consideration. According to this, 12.5 millions were transported across the Atlantic voyage, and between 10-20 million during the Arab slave trade, though granted the Arab slave trade lasted considerably many centuries more. https://www.gilderlehrman.org/content/historical-context-facts-about-slave-trade-and-slavery https://atlantablackstar.com/2014/06/02/10-facts-about-the-arab-enslavement-of-black-people-not-taught-in-schools/ Also, I havent seen Europeans mentioned of castrating their slaves systematically as the Arabs did with their slaves, do you have a source? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907660534] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote> I'd have to see some some research on the 'more slavery' thing. Triangle Trade was literally industrialized slavery on an unprecedented scale. As for castration, that was incredibly common outside of the Arab world at that time, too, so I'm not sure why that would even be brought into consideration. </quote> According to this, 12.5 millions were transported across the Atlantic voyage, and between 10-20 million during the Arab slave trade, though granted the Arab slave trade lasted considerably many centuries more. https://www.gilderlehrman.org/content/historical-context-facts-about-slave-trade-and-slavery https://atlantablackstar.com/2014/06/02/10-facts-about-the-arab-enslavement-of-black-people-not-taught-in-schools/ Also, I havent seen Europeans mentioned of castrating their slaves systematically as the Arabs did with their slaves, do you have a source?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarKnight23 08/27/18 9:06:07 PM #57:	Some humans are extremely selfish, as long as they are provided for they don't care what happens to other people. Africa would be so much better if certain people weren't in charge and people didn't keep following those fools --- Team Dodge Juggle Protect <cite>StarKnight23 posted [p:907660689] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>Some humans are extremely selfish, as long as they are provided for they don't care what happens to other people. Africa would be so much better if certain people weren't in charge and people didn't keep following those fools</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fuparulez 08/27/18 9:08:37 PM #58:	PowerfulSageIRL posted... it's almost as though having all your wealth and natural resources stolen, your land colonized, and a significant number of your people taken into slavery, might have a negative effect on an area But the continent was largely at a stone age level of civilization BEFORE that happened. It wasn't like pre colonial Africa was some bastion of technology and philosophy, and a lot of places in Africa had higher standards of living under colonialism. Rhodesia comes to mind. --- It's the fat upper kitty area, and if you got one I wanna marry ya! <cite>Fuparulez posted [p:907660815] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote>it's almost as though having all your wealth and natural resources stolen, your land colonized, and a significant number of your people taken into slavery, might have a negative effect on an area</quote> But the continent was largely at a stone age level of civilization BEFORE that happened. It wasn't like pre colonial Africa was some bastion of technology and philosophy, and a lot of places in Africa had higher standards of living under colonialism. Rhodesia comes to mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 08/27/18 9:11:51 PM #59:	Was Africa relatively well off pre-colonialism? --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:907661002] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>Was Africa relatively well off pre-colonialism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/27/18 9:13:00 PM #60:	EndOfDiscOne posted... Was Africa relatively well off pre-colonialism? No, thats why they were colonized so easily in the first place, at least thats what Ive heard. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907661069] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote>Was Africa relatively well off pre-colonialism?</quote> No, thats why they were colonized so easily in the first place, at least thats what Ive heard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 08/27/18 9:19:03 PM #61:	EndOfDiscOne posted... Was Africa relatively well off pre-colonialism? Technologically, no. Most of Sub-Saharan Africa did not have their own writing systems, for example. Like in Congo for example, there are quite a few different indigenous languages but none of them had writing systems. It wasn't until the colonists came and taught everyone French that some started to write down their indigenous languages and create dictionaries and whatnot using latinized characters. Is a country automatically better than another for being more technologically advanced? Even if the indigenous cultures didn't have much in terms of technology, does that automatically make them inferior to the cultures of those who conquered them? I won't pretend to have the answers to these questions. Just things to think about. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:907661406] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote>Was Africa relatively well off pre-colonialism?</quote> Technologically, no. Most of Sub-Saharan Africa did not have their own writing systems, for example. Like in Congo for example, there are quite a few different indigenous languages but none of them had writing systems. It wasn't until the colonists came and taught everyone French that some started to write down their indigenous languages and create dictionaries and whatnot using latinized characters. Is a country automatically better than another for being more technologically advanced? Even if the indigenous cultures didn't have much in terms of technology, does that automatically make them inferior to the cultures of those who conquered them? I won't pretend to have the answers to these questions. Just things to think about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 08/27/18 9:21:27 PM #62:	Fuparulez posted... But the continent was largely at a stone age level of civilization BEFORE that happened. No they weren't. They had many empires and traded things like gold, metal, salt, etc. Read up on Mali, Songhai, Great Zimbabwe, Somali city states, etc. Not every African society was tribesman or people in huts. EndOfDiscOne posted... Was Africa relatively well off pre-colonialism? Are you including the slave trade as "pre-colonialism"? Because the slave trade destabilized many African kingdoms (which then led to them being so easily colonized). --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:907661524] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote>But the continent was largely at a stone age level of civilization BEFORE that happened. </quote> No they weren't. They had many empires and traded things like gold, metal, salt, etc. Read up on Mali, Songhai, Great Zimbabwe, Somali city states, etc. Not every African society was tribesman or people in huts. <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote>Was Africa relatively well off pre-colonialism?</quote> Are you including the slave trade as "pre-colonialism"? Because the slave trade destabilized many African kingdoms (which then led to them being so easily colonized).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 08/27/18 9:26:37 PM #63:	Because nobody blessed the rains. --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:907661794] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>Because nobody blessed the rains.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/28/18 1:27:30 AM #64:	Kazi1212 posted... though granted the Arab slave trade lasted considerably many centuries more. Yeah, that makes a bit of a difference. Kazi1212 posted... Also, I havent seen Europeans mentioned of castrating their slaves systematically as the Arabs did with their slaves, do you have a source? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration#Europe It was widely practiced. I never said it was only common in Europe though. IIRC, China was pretty prolific in employing eunuchs. Again, though, I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. Are you saying that the Europe colonialism in Africa was okay? Or that it is somehow justified because Arab colonialism a millennium prior was worse? You still seem to be making an argument I'm not making. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:907669295] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>though granted the Arab slave trade lasted considerably many centuries more.</quote> Yeah, that makes a bit of a difference. <cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Also, I havent seen Europeans mentioned of castrating their slaves systematically as the Arabs did with their slaves, do you have a source?</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration#Europe It was widely practiced. I never said it was only common in Europe though. IIRC, China was pretty prolific in employing eunuchs. Again, though, I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. Are you saying that the Europe colonialism in Africa was okay? Or that it is somehow justified because Arab colonialism a millennium prior was worse? You still seem to be making an argument I'm not making.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumpo 08/28/18 1:30:12 AM #65:	Akon making big bucks in Africa <cite>Trumpo posted [p:907669404] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>Akon making big bucks in Africa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 08/28/18 1:34:55 AM #66:	CrimsonRage posted... Kazi1212 posted... Thats understandable but how come African nations were the biggest victims of the predatory imf? Countries like India, Ecuador, Indonesia etc... were also all previously colonized(in some cases for centuries) and for the most part were able to break through the financial obstacles created by the international banking system. ecuador, indonesia, and large parts of india are still impoverished Ecuador is just fine.... -an ecuadorian. It could be much better but we are NOWHERE near indonesia or the 5th world places youre mentioning. Ffs --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:907669573] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Thats understandable but how come African nations were the biggest victims of the predatory imf? Countries like India, Ecuador, Indonesia etc... were also all previously colonized(in some cases for centuries) and for the most part were able to break through the financial obstacles created by the international banking system.</quote> ecuador, indonesia, and large parts of india are still impoverished</quote> Ecuador is just fine.... -an ecuadorian. It could be much better but we are NOWHERE near indonesia or the 5th world places youre mentioning. Ffs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/28/18 2:12:59 AM #67:	Dash_Harber posted... Kazi1212 posted... though granted the Arab slave trade lasted considerably many centuries more. Yeah, that makes a bit of a difference. Kazi1212 posted... Also, I havent seen Europeans mentioned of castrating their slaves systematically as the Arabs did with their slaves, do you have a source? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration#Europe It was widely practiced. I never said it was only common in Europe though. IIRC, China was pretty prolific in employing eunuchs. Again, though, I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. Are you saying that the Europe colonialism in Africa was okay? Or that it is somehow justified because Arab colonialism a millennium prior was worse? You still seem to be making an argument I'm not making. I wasnt tryin to get at anything, just trying to get facts of what actually happened straight. You were the one who brought up the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600, as if the evils Africa suffered at the hands of Arabs for more than a millennium is somehow different in the impact of shaping African history and their perpetual underdevelopment from what they suffered at the hands of the Europeans --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907670855] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>though granted the Arab slave trade lasted considerably many centuries more.</quote> Yeah, that makes a bit of a difference. <cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Also, I havent seen Europeans mentioned of castrating their slaves systematically as the Arabs did with their slaves, do you have a source?</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration#Europe It was widely practiced. I never said it was only common in Europe though. IIRC, China was pretty prolific in employing eunuchs. Again, though, I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. Are you saying that the Europe colonialism in Africa was okay? Or that it is somehow justified because Arab colonialism a millennium prior was worse? You still seem to be making an argument I'm not making.</quote> I wasnt tryin to get at anything, just trying to get facts of what actually happened straight. You were the one who brought up the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600, as if the evils Africa suffered at the hands of Arabs for more than a millennium is somehow different in the impact of shaping African history and their perpetual underdevelopment from what they suffered at the hands of the Europeans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/28/18 2:17:32 AM #68:	Kazi1212 posted... You were the one who brought up the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600, as if the evils Africa suffered at the hands of Arabs for more than a millennium is somehow different in the impact of shaping African history and their perpetual underdevelopment from what they suffered at the hands of the Europeans No, I didn't, actually. You keep making arguments I didn't make. I said it was different, not better or worse, because, as I pointed out, North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two completely different situations and lumping them together is pointless. Please, tell me where the value judgement is in that argument. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:907670999] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>You were the one who brought up the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600, as if the evils Africa suffered at the hands of Arabs for more than a millennium is somehow different in the impact of shaping African history and their perpetual underdevelopment from what they suffered at the hands of the Europeans</quote> No, I didn't, actually. You keep making arguments I didn't make. I said it was different, not better or worse, because, as I pointed out, North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two completely different situations and lumping them together is pointless. Please, tell me where the value judgement is in that argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/28/18 2:27:18 AM #69:	Dash_Harber posted... Kazi1212 posted... You were the one who brought up the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600, as if the evils Africa suffered at the hands of Arabs for more than a millennium is somehow different in the impact of shaping African history and their perpetual underdevelopment from what they suffered at the hands of the Europeans No, I didn't, actually. You keep making arguments I didn't make. I said it was different, not better or worse, because, as I pointed out, North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two completely different situations and lumping them together is pointless. Please, tell me where the value judgement is in that argument. What arguments do I keep making? Im not satvia_rose dude, I responded to your post only once in this topic lmao. Anyways, if all youre saying is that North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two different situation, then Sativa was literally making your point for you, I dont see why you responded to him as if its different to what youre saying, his point was the historical trajectory of North Africa is different precisely because of the influence from Arab colonialism. I was just confused why the hell were you still arguing him with him because it seemed like he was saying the same thing you were, I guess he stopped responding to you because he was equally confused. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907671333] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>You were the one who brought up the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600, as if the evils Africa suffered at the hands of Arabs for more than a millennium is somehow different in the impact of shaping African history and their perpetual underdevelopment from what they suffered at the hands of the Europeans</quote> No, I didn't, actually. You keep making arguments I didn't make. I said it was different, not better or worse, because, as I pointed out, North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two completely different situations and lumping them together is pointless. Please, tell me where the value judgement is in that argument.</quote> What arguments do I keep making? Im not satvia_rose dude, I responded to your post only once in this topic lmao. Anyways, if all youre saying is that North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two different situation, then Sativa was literally making your point for you, I dont see why you responded to him as if its different to what youre saying, his point was the historical trajectory of North Africa is different precisely because of the influence from Arab colonialism. I was just confused why the hell were you still arguing him with him because it seemed like he was saying the same thing you were, I guess he stopped responding to you because he was equally confused.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/28/18 2:28:21 AM #70:	Kazi1212 posted... Dash_Harber posted... Kazi1212 posted... You were the one who brought up the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600, as if the evils Africa suffered at the hands of Arabs for more than a millennium is somehow different in the impact of shaping African history and their perpetual underdevelopment from what they suffered at the hands of the Europeans No, I didn't, actually. You keep making arguments I didn't make. I said it was different, not better or worse, because, as I pointed out, North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two completely different situations and lumping them together is pointless. Please, tell me where the value judgement is in that argument. What arguments do I keep making? Im not satvia_rose dude, I responded to your post only once in this topic lmao. Anyways, if all youre saying is that North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two different situation, then Sativa was literally making your point for you, I dont see why you responded to him as if its different to what youre saying, his point was the historical trajectory of North Africa is different precisely because of the influence from Arab colonialism. I was just confused why the hell were you still arguing him with him because it seemed like he was saying the same thing you were, I guess he stopped responding to you because he was equally confused. Okay, man. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:907671365] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>You were the one who brought up the colonialism of 600 looks a helluva lot different than the colonialism of 1600, as if the evils Africa suffered at the hands of Arabs for more than a millennium is somehow different in the impact of shaping African history and their perpetual underdevelopment from what they suffered at the hands of the Europeans</quote> No, I didn't, actually. You keep making arguments I didn't make. I said it was different, not better or worse, because, as I pointed out, North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two completely different situations and lumping them together is pointless. Please, tell me where the value judgement is in that argument.</quote> What arguments do I keep making? Im not satvia_rose dude, I responded to your post only once in this topic lmao. Anyways, if all youre saying is that North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are two different situation, then Sativa was literally making your point for you, I dont see why you responded to him as if its different to what youre saying, his point was the historical trajectory of North Africa is different precisely because of the influence from Arab colonialism. I was just confused why the hell were you still arguing him with him because it seemed like he was saying the same thing you were, I guess he stopped responding to you because he was equally confused.</quote> Okay, man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 08/28/18 11:29:31 AM #71:	It's a cycle, like all things are. Africa started off with the superpowers, then Europe took it with Greece/Rome, and now it's North America (US) and Asia sharing it (Russia, China, nowadays Saudi Arabia even though that's really Africa). --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:907686691] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>It's a cycle, like all things are. Africa started off with the superpowers, then Europe took it with Greece/Rome, and now it's North America (US) and Asia sharing it (Russia, China, nowadays Saudi Arabia even though that's really Africa).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmpV3 08/28/18 11:44:51 AM #72:	s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious. --- MH4U / MHWorld: Jacques Arc MHGen / GenU: XTRMNTR <cite>AmpV3 posted [p:907687591] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/28/18 11:48:10 AM #73:	AmpV3 posted... s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious. Are... are you actually on a V3 like I joked a dozen times because you can't keep yourself from getting banned for trolling? Did that really happen? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:907687790] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious.</quote> Are... are you actually on a V3 like I joked a dozen times because you can't keep yourself from getting banned for trolling? Did that really happen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmpV3 08/28/18 11:50:43 AM #74:	s0nicfan posted... AmpV3 posted... s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious. Are... are you actually on a V3 like I joked a dozen times because you can't keep yourself from getting banned for trolling? Did that really happen? Deflect! Calling conservatives what they are isn't trolling. v2 knew fully well what was going to happen and the consequences. Anyways, I just wanted to remind you of your embarrassing lack of knowledge, and how funny it was for everyone else. --- MH4U / MHWorld: Jacques Arc MHGen / GenU: XTRMNTR <cite>AmpV3 posted [p:907687959] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious.</quote> Are... are you actually on a V3 like I joked a dozen times because you can't keep yourself from getting banned for trolling? Did that really happen?</quote> Deflect! Calling conservatives what they are isn't trolling. v2 knew fully well what was going to happen and the consequences. Anyways, I just wanted to remind you of your embarrassing lack of knowledge, and how funny it was for everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/28/18 11:53:11 AM #75:	AmpV3 posted... s0nicfan posted... AmpV3 posted... s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious. Are... are you actually on a V3 like I joked a dozen times because you can't keep yourself from getting banned for trolling? Did that really happen? Deflect! Calling conservatives what they are isn't trolling. v2 knew fully well what was going to happen and the consequences. Anyways, I just wanted to remind you of your embarrassing lack of knowledge, and how funny it was for everyone else. See you at V4 after you get banned again. I hope you don't actually think people take you seriously. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:907688105] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious.</quote> Are... are you actually on a V3 like I joked a dozen times because you can't keep yourself from getting banned for trolling? Did that really happen?</quote> Deflect! Calling conservatives what they are isn't trolling. v2 knew fully well what was going to happen and the consequences. Anyways, I just wanted to remind you of your embarrassing lack of knowledge, and how funny it was for everyone else.</quote> See you at V4 after you get banned again. I hope you don't actually think people take you seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 08/28/18 11:53:46 AM #76:	uwnim posted... It was completely and utterly fucked by colonialism which didn't end until the mid 1900s. Some of the aid given to the countries there is counterproductive and hurts industrialization. China was colonized Look at China today --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:907688136] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote>It was completely and utterly fucked by colonialism which didn't end until the mid 1900s. Some of the aid given to the countries there is counterproductive and hurts industrialization.</quote> China was colonized Look at China today</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 08/28/18 11:57:13 AM #77:	Ilishe posted... China was colonized colonized is not a binary status that means the same thing happened if Colonized = 1 --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:907688340] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>China was colonized </quote> colonized is not a binary status that means the same thing happened if Colonized = 1</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmpV3 08/28/18 12:02:47 PM #78:	s0nicfan posted... AmpV3 posted... s0nicfan posted... AmpV3 posted... s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious. Are... are you actually on a V3 like I joked a dozen times because you can't keep yourself from getting banned for trolling? Did that really happen? Deflect! Calling conservatives what they are isn't trolling. v2 knew fully well what was going to happen and the consequences. Anyways, I just wanted to remind you of your embarrassing lack of knowledge, and how funny it was for everyone else. See you at V4 after you get banned again. I hope you don't actually think people take you seriously. Deflect! says the guy who gets mocked in nearly every post for not knowing what he is talking about, like in my example. Let's talk more about your fictional "no-go zones" in London, sonic. It's fucking hilarious. --- MH4U / MHWorld: Jacques Arc MHGen / GenU: XTRMNTR <cite>AmpV3 posted [p:907688654] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> Ever find that police officer who said there were "no go zones" in London? That was hilarious.</quote> Are... are you actually on a V3 like I joked a dozen times because you can't keep yourself from getting banned for trolling? Did that really happen?</quote> Deflect! Calling conservatives what they are isn't trolling. v2 knew fully well what was going to happen and the consequences. Anyways, I just wanted to remind you of your embarrassing lack of knowledge, and how funny it was for everyone else.</quote> See you at V4 after you get banned again. I hope you don't actually think people take you seriously.</quote> Deflect! says the guy who gets mocked in nearly every post for not knowing what he is talking about, like in my example. Let's talk more about your fictional "no-go zones" in London, sonic. It's fucking hilarious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 08/28/18 12:04:31 PM #79:	some other thoughts dash was wise to bring up the triangle trade and atlantic slave trading operations. a key detail here is that the european contact with african nations created a perpetual state of war between said nations. europeans bought slaves in such vast quantities that the governments dedicated massive resources to acquisition of new slaves from their neighbors, devastating one another in the process. where the arab slave trade typically involved conquest and subjugation, europeans didn't do this until the 19th century after cures for malaria were developed. but because the trade was able to operate through proxy governments/empires, they had full penetration of the continent, a big part of why they did in ~200 years what took the arabs a thousand. that level of depopulation and military devastation prevented any economic/technological advancements from really setting in. immediately after ending their slave trade, the british instituted a total blockade of africa, which was a further setback. this persisted all the way up until 1870! just ten years after ending their blockade, european nations invaded the continent and annexed the land (the scramble for africa in the 1880s) so, like, it's not "just" white people, but also african empires that participated in the trade wars, but the wealth being used to drive them was so great, anyone who wouldn't play ball was destroyed by competitors. this isn't an attack on white people, just an understanding of how mercantilism ultimately transferred wealth from africa to europe. which, to be clear, was precisely the point of mercantilism: enrich home country at cost to colony. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:907688745] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>some other thoughts dash was wise to bring up the triangle trade and atlantic slave trading operations. a key detail here is that the european contact with african nations created a perpetual state of war between said nations. europeans bought slaves in such vast quantities that the governments dedicated massive resources to acquisition of new slaves from their neighbors, devastating one another in the process. where the arab slave trade typically involved conquest and subjugation, europeans didn't do this until the 19th century after cures for malaria were developed. but because the trade was able to operate through proxy governments/empires, they had full penetration of the continent, a big part of why they did in ~200 years what took the arabs a thousand. that level of depopulation and military devastation prevented any economic/technological advancements from really setting in. immediately after ending their slave trade, the british instituted a total blockade of africa, which was a further setback. this persisted all the way up until 1870! just ten years after ending their blockade, european nations invaded the continent and annexed the land (the scramble for africa in the 1880s) so, like, it's not "just" white people, but also african empires that participated in the trade wars, but the wealth being used to drive them was so great, anyone who wouldn't play ball was destroyed by competitors. this isn't an attack on white people, just an understanding of how mercantilism ultimately transferred wealth from africa to europe. which, to be clear, was precisely the point of mercantilism: enrich home country at cost to colony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/28/18 12:06:45 PM #80:	You really should stop, AMP. You're derailing a reasonable conversation here by other posters so you can ramble on about something you think happened that's completely unrelated to the topic. If you're that desperate for attention, make a new topic. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:907688873] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>You really should stop, AMP. You're derailing a reasonable conversation here by other posters so you can ramble on about something you think happened that's completely unrelated to the topic. If you're that desperate for attention, make a new topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 08/28/18 12:06:50 PM #81:	Ilishe posted... uwnim posted... It was completely and utterly fucked by colonialism which didn't end until the mid 1900s. Some of the aid given to the countries there is counterproductive and hurts industrialization. China was colonized Look at China today No it wasn't. At least not as extensively. Hong Kong and Macau were sold off to European powers and they were subject to unequal treaties, but China still existed as an independent, sovereign entity. --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:907688881] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote>It was completely and utterly fucked by colonialism which didn't end until the mid 1900s. Some of the aid given to the countries there is counterproductive and hurts industrialization.</quote> China was colonized Look at China today</quote> No it wasn't. At least not as extensively. Hong Kong and Macau were sold off to European powers and they were subject to unequal treaties, but China still existed as an independent, sovereign entity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 08/28/18 12:08:03 PM #82:	s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Anarchy_Juiblex posted... It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites" love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:907688953] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites"</quote> love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmpV3 08/28/18 12:08:17 PM #83:	s0nicfan posted... You really should stop, AMP. You're derailing a reasonable conversation here by other posters so you can ramble on about something you think happened that's completely unrelated to the topic. If you're that desperate for attention, make a new topic. Come on, Sonic. You aren't embarrassed about it, are you? You did get thoroughly roasted, after all. --- MH4U / MHWorld: Jacques Arc MHGen / GenU: XTRMNTR <cite>AmpV3 posted [p:907688964] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>You really should stop, AMP. You're derailing a reasonable conversation here by other posters so you can ramble on about something you think happened that's completely unrelated to the topic. If you're that desperate for attention, make a new topic.</quote> Come on, Sonic. You aren't embarrassed about it, are you? You did get thoroughly roasted, after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 08/28/18 12:08:55 PM #84:	Read Why Nations Fail. <cite>Alphamon posted [p:907689002] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>Read Why Nations Fail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmpV3 08/28/18 12:09:11 PM #85:	mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Anarchy_Juiblex posted... It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites" love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally Sonicfan thinks white people are one of the most marginalized groups in the world, tbh. --- MH4U / MHWorld: Jacques Arc MHGen / GenU: XTRMNTR <cite>AmpV3 posted [p:907689008] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites"</quote> love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally</quote> Sonicfan thinks white people are one of the most marginalized groups in the world, tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 08/28/18 12:09:47 PM #86:	because its too hot there. no one wants to work when its really hot. I know I don't. the heat makes me sleepy. :o --- https://imgur.com/RrnQVUg <cite>Abyssea posted [p:907689037] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>because its too hot there. no one wants to work when its really hot. I know I don't. the heat makes me sleepy. :o</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 08/28/18 12:11:05 PM #87:	mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Anarchy_Juiblex posted... It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites" love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally And they never say what they think the reason is if they don't think white people/colonialism is to blame. --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:907689100] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites"</quote> love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally</quote> And they never say what they think the reason is if they don't think white people/colonialism is to blame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 08/28/18 12:13:02 PM #88:	lol just stfu and read why nations fail by daron acemoglu. <cite>Alphamon posted [p:907689190] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>lol just stfu and read why nations fail by daron acemoglu.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/28/18 12:17:15 PM #89:	mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Anarchy_Juiblex posted... It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites" love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally Fair enough. Do you believe in reparations? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:907689415] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites"</quote> love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally</quote> Fair enough. Do you believe in reparations?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thrillwell 08/28/18 12:17:25 PM #90:	no one wants to say the truth they were told to create bullshit instead because that is socially acceptable --- I have to return some video tapes. <cite>Thrillwell posted [p:907689431] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>no one wants to say the truth they were told to create bullshit instead because that is socially acceptable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 08/28/18 12:17:54 PM #91:	@s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems? --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:907689466] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmpV3 08/28/18 12:18:07 PM #92:	s0nicfan posted... mario2000 posted... s0nicfan posted... Because "white people" Anarchy_Juiblex posted... It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites" love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally Fair enough. Do you believe in reparations? We know you don't. --- MH4U / MHWorld: Jacques Arc MHGen / GenU: XTRMNTR <cite>AmpV3 posted [p:907689479] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Because "white people"</quote> <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>It's the continent of 10,001 excuses. All of which secretly boil down to "let's blame whites"</quote> love posts like this like bruh why you gettin defensive, no one's blaming you personally</quote> Fair enough. Do you believe in reparations?</quote> We know you don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/28/18 12:22:15 PM #93:	AmericaTheBrave posted... @s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems? Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:907689769] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems?</quote> Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 08/28/18 12:24:19 PM #94:	s0nicfan posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... @s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems? Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles? uh oh <cite>Alphamon posted [p:907689900] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems?</quote> Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles?</quote> uh oh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Goggalor_ 08/28/18 12:24:42 PM #95:	Historical oppression and current corruption. --- Playing: Horizon Zero Dawn, Cuphead Reading: Frankenstein by Mary Shelley <cite>_Goggalor_ posted [p:907689928] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>Historical oppression and current corruption.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmpV3 08/28/18 12:26:57 PM #96:	Alphamon posted... s0nicfan posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... @s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems? Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles? uh oh Lol, even when trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about, sonic fails miserably. He literally thinks Africa is all like The Gods Must Be Crazy. What a fail. --- MH4U / MHWorld: Jacques Arc MHGen / GenU: XTRMNTR <cite>AmpV3 posted [p:907690048] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems?</quote> Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles?</quote> uh oh</quote> Lol, even when trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about, sonic fails miserably. He literally thinks Africa is all like The Gods Must Be Crazy. What a fail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 08/28/18 12:28:38 PM #97:	he had to be trolling. <cite>Alphamon posted [p:907690138] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote>he had to be trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 08/28/18 12:29:32 PM #98:	s0nicfan posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... @s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems? Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles? Do you really think Egypt is Africa's only civilization? What about Ethiopia? Nubia? Mali, Songhai, Ghana, Great Zimbabwe, Swahili city-states, Kongo etc. Remember Timbuktu? One of the richest cities and great repository of knowledge? That was in West Africa. Not every African society was tribal. --- https://imgur.com/loj3Iz4 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:907690200] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems?</quote> Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles?</quote> Do you really think Egypt is Africa's only civilization? What about Ethiopia? Nubia? Mali, Songhai, Ghana, Great Zimbabwe, Swahili city-states, Kongo etc. Remember Timbuktu? One of the richest cities and great repository of knowledge? That was in West Africa. Not every African society was tribal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/28/18 12:29:47 PM #99:	AmpV3 posted... Alphamon posted... s0nicfan posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... @s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems? Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles? uh oh Lol, even when trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about, sonic fails miserably. He literally thinks Africa is all like The Gods Must Be Crazy. What a fail. The biggest driver of "civilization" is the need to. It's no coincidence that civilizations tend to start in deserts and tundras, while being largely absent in tropical paradises or areas where seasonal migration is easy. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:907690223] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems?</quote> Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles?</quote> uh oh</quote> Lol, even when trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about, sonic fails miserably. He literally thinks Africa is all like The Gods Must Be Crazy. What a fail.</quote> The biggest driver of "civilization" is the need to. It's no coincidence that civilizations tend to start in deserts and tundras, while being largely absent in tropical paradises or areas where seasonal migration is easy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/28/18 12:29:59 PM #100:	AmpV3 posted... Alphamon posted... s0nicfan posted... AmericaTheBrave posted... @s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems? Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles? uh oh Lol, even when trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about, sonic fails miserably. He literally thinks Africa is all like The Gods Must Be Crazy. What a fail. We're talking about pre-colonialism, which would have been the early 1800s (at the latest) and the era of Shaka Zulu, not current day. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:907690234] in Why is Afr... [t:76942539]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>@s0nicfan, @Anarchy_Juiblex do you deny Europeans had a hand in Africa's problems?</quote> Of course they had a hand. The question is to what degree. Are you arguing that, completely absent European intervention, that Africa (sans Egypt) would have formed the kind of empires that Europe or China created? That even though there was no indication that they were developing technologically anywhere close to the rate of europe, or the middle east, or east asia, that they would have suddenly decided to modernize? What's to say they wouldn't have been like native americans and stuck to their current tribal lifestyles?</quote> uh oh</quote> Lol, even when trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about, sonic fails miserably. He literally thinks Africa is all like The Gods Must Be Crazy. What a fail.</quote> We're talking about pre-colonialism, which would have been the early 1800s (at the latest) and the era of Shaka Zulu, not current day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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