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scar the 1 08/31/18 12:39:21 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/ScienceVet2/status/1035246030500061184 So this guy is a scientist, and he explains in a simple way how sex - not gender, but actual, biological sex - isn't really binary, it's rather a bimodal distribution. Some highlights: What's important here is that you haven't MISLABELED males as females. These are functional "females" who can do all the usual "female" things like gestate babies. But they respond to this one endocrine disruptor in a "male" way. /16 And the more you look, the more we LEARN, the more we're able to separate out those fine differences. Depending on what we're doing, we may not care. If a doc is giving you aspirin, it probably isn't a big deal. /19 But if they're using a steroid on you? Or treating dioxin poisoning? THAT SHIT COULD BE IMPORTANT. It's like saying, "the light's off so the power must not be flowing." It really matters if the light's off because the bulb blew. /20 In case anyone's curious, this isn't ideology. This is because I had to figure out why my data didn't match the prediction. Those rats I mentioned? Yeah, my lab. And lab rats are a really pure genetic monoculture, and they STILL don't fit the two peak model well. /24 A human result of the scientific conclusion that sex is a spectrum and intersex people are a perfectly normal result of nature, is that there is no scientific rationale for medically (or culturally) forcing people into those two peaks. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907872574] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/ScienceVet2/status/1035246030500061184 So this guy is a scientist, and he explains in a simple way how sex - not gender, but actual, biological sex - isn't really binary, it's rather a bimodal distribution. Some highlights: <quote>What's important here is that you haven't MISLABELED males as females. These are functional "females" who can do all the usual "female" things like gestate babies. But they respond to this one endocrine disruptor in a "male" way. /16</quote> <quote>And the more you look, the more we LEARN, the more we're able to separate out those fine differences. Depending on what we're doing, we may not care. If a doc is giving you aspirin, it probably isn't a big deal. /19</quote> <quote>But if they're using a steroid on you? Or treating dioxin poisoning? THAT SHIT COULD BE IMPORTANT. It's like saying, "the light's off so the power must not be flowing." It really matters if the light's off because the bulb blew. /20</quote> <quote>In case anyone's curious, this isn't ideology. This is because I had to figure out why my data didn't match the prediction. Those rats I mentioned? Yeah, my lab. And lab rats are a really pure genetic monoculture, and they STILL don't fit the two peak model well. /24</quote> <quote>A human result of the scientific conclusion that sex is a spectrum and intersex people are a perfectly normal result of nature, is that there is no scientific rationale for medically (or culturally) forcing people into those two peaks.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 1:31:56 PM #2:	Bump! This is very relevant for a lot of discussions here on CE --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907875451] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>Bump! This is very relevant for a lot of discussions here on CE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 08/31/18 1:32:49 PM #3:	penis = male vagina = female <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:907875492] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>penis = male vagina = female</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 08/31/18 1:33:16 PM #4:	dontIoseyourway posted... penis = male vagina = female --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:907875512] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>penis = male vagina = female</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_BIueMonk 08/31/18 1:33:19 PM #5:	so hes saying... NO COLLUSION!!! TRUMP IS VINDICATED!!!! HILLARY IS GOING TO PRISON!!! --- DAHYUN = <3 https://i.imgtc.com/sNuiMQr.gif <cite>_BIueMonk posted [p:907875515] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>so hes saying... NO COLLUSION!!! TRUMP IS VINDICATED!!!! HILLARY IS GOING TO PRISON!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 08/31/18 1:35:03 PM #6:	_BIueMonk posted... so hes saying... NO COLLUSION!!! TRUMP IS VINDICATED!!!! HILLARY IS GOING TO PRISON!!! I had something along these lines, but this is fine. :) --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:907875592] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>_BIueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>so hes saying... NO COLLUSION!!! TRUMP IS VINDICATED!!!! HILLARY IS GOING TO PRISON!!!</quote> I had something along these lines, but this is fine. :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 1:36:07 PM #7:	CyricZ posted... _BIueMonk posted... so hes saying... NO COLLUSION!!! TRUMP IS VINDICATED!!!! HILLARY IS GOING TO PRISON!!! I had something along these lines, but this is fine. :) I don't get it ._. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907875650] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_BIueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>so hes saying... NO COLLUSION!!! TRUMP IS VINDICATED!!!! HILLARY IS GOING TO PRISON!!!</quote> I had something along these lines, but this is fine. :)</quote> I don't get it ._.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 08/31/18 1:36:55 PM #8:	Unverified Twitter account created in the last two months poses as a 'scientist' and posts controversial subject matter with no citations - Where do I agree!? --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:907875706] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>Unverified Twitter account created in the last two months poses as a 'scientist' and posts controversial subject matter with no citations - Where do I agree!?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/31/18 1:37:15 PM #9:	So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907875727] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 1:38:12 PM #10:	thelovefist posted... Unverified Twitter account created in the last two months poses as a 'scientist' and posts controversial subject matter with no citations - Where do I agree!? Ohh, now I get it. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907875779] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Unverified Twitter account created in the last two months poses as a 'scientist' and posts controversial subject matter with no citations - Where do I agree!?</quote> Ohh, now I get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 08/31/18 1:39:18 PM #11:	LMAO its literally some guy who's profile picture isnt his face, unverified, no name, no proof of any degrees and 3k followers. get out of here with this bullshit. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:907875846] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>LMAO its literally some guy who's profile picture isnt his face, unverified, no name, no proof of any degrees and 3k followers. get out of here with this bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 08/31/18 1:39:28 PM #13:	Kazi1212 posted... So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature? He's not talking about gender at all. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907875858] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature?</quote> He's not talking about gender at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 08/31/18 1:40:50 PM #14:	What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:907875928] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 08/31/18 1:41:42 PM #15:	I can totally accept that there are biological differences between humans that aren't split perfectly between the sexes. --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:907875974] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>I can totally accept that there are biological differences between humans that aren't split perfectly between the sexes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/31/18 1:43:16 PM #16:	DoomsSD posted... dontIoseyourway posted... penis = male vagina = female Penis + Vagina = Vagenis Vagina + Penis = Pagina --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:907876045] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoomsSD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>penis = male vagina = female</quote> Penis + Vagina = Vagenis</quote> Vagina + Penis = Pagina</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 1:43:43 PM #17:	hollow_shrine posted... What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread. Do you mind linking that thread here, for context? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907876065] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread.</quote> Do you mind linking that thread here, for context?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 08/31/18 1:44:52 PM #18:	hollow_shrine posted... Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. thelovefist posted... Unverified Twitter account created in the last two months poses as a 'scientist' and posts controversial subject matter with no citations - Where do I agree!? dontIoseyourway posted... LMAO its literally some guy who's profile picture isnt his face, unverified, no name, no proof of any degrees and 3k followers. get out of here with this bullshit. --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:907876128] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority.</quote> <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Unverified Twitter account created in the last two months poses as a 'scientist' and posts controversial subject matter with no citations - Where do I agree!?</quote> <cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>LMAO its literally some guy who's profile picture isnt his face, unverified, no name, no proof of any degrees and 3k followers. get out of here with this bullshit.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CapnMuffin 08/31/18 1:45:41 PM #19:	dontIoseyourway posted... penis = male vagina = female Doctor: checks your genitals only Yes I know exactly whats wrong, how to treat you, and with what now. --- "its okay a lizard ate me and elucidated my fate" - MJ_Max on Dark Souls 3DSFC : 0860-3930-2170 \| NNID : CapnMuffin \| XBGT : Capn Muffin <cite>CapnMuffin posted [p:907876173] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>penis = male vagina = female</quote> Doctor: checks your genitals only Yes I know exactly whats wrong, how to treat you, and with what now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/31/18 1:46:14 PM #20:	scar the 1 posted... thelovefist posted... Unverified Twitter account created in the last two months poses as a 'scientist' and posts controversial subject matter with no citations - Where do I agree!? Ohh, now I get it. That is a valid point though. Unless there is something to indicate the authenticity of the source, this is just some random new guy on Twitter using a picture of Eder from PoE as his Twitter avatar. Kazi1212 posted... So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature? One of his tweets suggests 7.4 billion sexes. Because each person is their own individual sex. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907876200] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Unverified Twitter account created in the last two months poses as a 'scientist' and posts controversial subject matter with no citations - Where do I agree!?</quote> Ohh, now I get it.</quote> That is a valid point though. Unless there is something to indicate the authenticity of the source, this is just some random new guy on Twitter using a picture of Eder from PoE as his Twitter avatar. <cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature?</quote> One of his tweets suggests 7.4 billion sexes. Because each person is their own individual sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 08/31/18 1:46:40 PM #21:	We didn't need a scientist to tell us that any gender besides male female or transgender is make believe --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 http://i.minus.com/iluvk8aR4mzC8.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:907876229] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>We didn't need a scientist to tell us that any gender besides male female or transgender is make believe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/31/18 1:48:46 PM #22:	scar the 1 posted... Kazi1212 posted... So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature? He's not talking about gender at all. He didnt ask about gender. He asked if the tweeter is proposing sex be modeled as a spectrum, like they like to model gender, rather than the binary it is usually considered. And if we do that, what differentiates them in the first place? --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907876330] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature?</quote> He's not talking about gender at all.</quote> He didnt ask about gender. He asked if the tweeter is proposing sex be modeled as a spectrum, like they like to model gender, rather than the binary it is usually considered. And if we do that, what differentiates them in the first place?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 1:53:19 PM #23:	Esrac posted... scar the 1 posted... Kazi1212 posted... So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature? He's not talking about gender at all. He didnt ask about gender. He asked if the tweeter is proposing sex be modeled as a spectrum, like they like to model gender, rather than the binary it is usually considered. And if we do that, what differentiates them in the first place? Ahh, fair enough. I don't think the tweeter is proposing anything at all. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907876593] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature?</quote> He's not talking about gender at all.</quote> He didnt ask about gender. He asked if the tweeter is proposing sex be modeled as a spectrum, like they like to model gender, rather than the binary it is usually considered. And if we do that, what differentiates them in the first place?</quote> Ahh, fair enough. I don't think the tweeter is proposing anything at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 1:55:44 PM #24:	For those asking for references, there was a quite well-known news feature in Nature about this: https://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943 --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907876713] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>For those asking for references, there was a quite well-known news feature in Nature about this: https://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/31/18 1:56:06 PM #25:	scar the 1 posted... Kazi1212 posted... So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature? He's not talking about gender at all. Just because he didnt mention gender in the tweets doesnt mean there arent any implications for the concept of gender if what hes saying is true. Or do you think theres no implications on gender based on his findings? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907876728] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature?</quote> He's not talking about gender at all.</quote> Just because he didnt mention gender in the tweets doesnt mean there arent any implications for the concept of gender if what hes saying is true. Or do you think theres no implications on gender based on his findings?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 08/31/18 1:56:33 PM #26:	scar the 1 posted... hollow_shrine posted... What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread. Do you mind linking that thread here, for context? This thread contains a screencap of the convo everyone's been crowing over, but not the whole thing. ~~https://twitter.com/_ElizabethMay/status/1035196005065678848?s=19~~ Actually you don't need to read this, everything is quite neatly summed up below. That started with this Chuck Tingle (yes, really) thread. https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/1035160553021304839?s=19 --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:907876747] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread.</quote> Do you mind linking that thread here, for context?</quote> This thread contains a screencap of the convo everyone's been crowing over, but not the whole thing. https://twitter.com/_ElizabethMay/status/1035196005065678848?s=19 Actually you don't need to read this, everything is quite neatly summed up below. That started with this Chuck Tingle (yes, really) thread. https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/1035160553021304839?s=19</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 1:58:31 PM #27:	Kazi1212 posted... scar the 1 posted... Kazi1212 posted... So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature? He's not talking about gender at all. Just because he didnt mention gender in the tweets doesnt mean there arent any implications for the concept of gender if what hes saying is true. Or do you think theres no implications on gender based on his findings? I don't see why biological sex being on a spectrum has to have any implications on gender identity. But that's my instant hot take on it, so take it with whatever amount of salt you want. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907876839] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature?</quote> He's not talking about gender at all.</quote> Just because he didnt mention gender in the tweets doesnt mean there arent any implications for the concept of gender if what hes saying is true. Or do you think theres no implications on gender based on his findings?</quote> I don't see why biological sex being on a spectrum has to have any implications on gender identity. But that's my instant hot take on it, so take it with whatever amount of salt you want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 2:00:45 PM #28:	hollow_shrine posted... scar the 1 posted... hollow_shrine posted... What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread. Do you mind linking that thread here, for context? This thread contains a screencap of the convo everyone's been crowing over, but not the whole thing. ~~https://twitter.com/_ElizabethMay/status/1035196005065678848?s=19~~ Actually you don't need to read this, everything is quite neatly summed up below. That started with this Chuck Tingle (yes, really) thread. https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/1035160553021304839?s=19 Cheers! --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907876952] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread.</quote> Do you mind linking that thread here, for context?</quote> This thread contains a screencap of the convo everyone's been crowing over, but not the whole thing. https://twitter.com/_ElizabethMay/status/1035196005065678848?s=19 Actually you don't need to read this, everything is quite neatly summed up below. That started with this Chuck Tingle (yes, really) thread. https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/1035160553021304839?s=19</quote> Cheers!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/31/18 2:07:29 PM #29:	scar the 1 posted... Kazi1212 posted... scar the 1 posted... Kazi1212 posted... So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature? He's not talking about gender at all. Just because he didnt mention gender in the tweets doesnt mean there arent any implications for the concept of gender if what hes saying is true. Or do you think theres no implications on gender based on his findings? I don't see why biological sex being on a spectrum has to have any implications on gender identity. But that's my instant hot take on it, so take it with whatever amount of salt you want. If biological sex is on a spectrum, and gender is on a spectrum, what differentiates biological sex from gender as a category? I thought the fact that sex is commonly understood as binary and gender as being in the spectrum means theres a reason why we have two distinct categories. Thats why before there was a social awakening between the difference of sex and gender, both terms were used in conversation interchangeably. But if youre saying both are on the spectrum, then Im not sure we need 2 different words in our vocabulary to refer to sex and gender given that the crux of what differentiates the two categories(binary vs being on a spectrum) is now deemed irrelevant. Perhaps you can say biological sex on the spectrum in terms of biological processes and gender is on the spectrum in terms of social psychological processes, but thats still reaching imo. Just my initial thoughts after seeing those tweets --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:907877297] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>So how many biological sexes is he proposing we have? Or is he proposing biological sex is on a spectrum much like gender is? And if thats the case,what differentiates sex and gender under his nomenclature?</quote> He's not talking about gender at all.</quote> Just because he didnt mention gender in the tweets doesnt mean there arent any implications for the concept of gender if what hes saying is true. Or do you think theres no implications on gender based on his findings?</quote> I don't see why biological sex being on a spectrum has to have any implications on gender identity. But that's my instant hot take on it, so take it with whatever amount of salt you want.</quote> If biological sex is on a spectrum, and gender is on a spectrum, what differentiates biological sex from gender as a category? I thought the fact that sex is commonly understood as binary and gender as being in the spectrum means theres a reason why we have two distinct categories. Thats why before there was a social awakening between the difference of sex and gender, both terms were used in conversation interchangeably. But if youre saying both are on the spectrum, then Im not sure we need 2 different words in our vocabulary to refer to sex and gender given that the crux of what differentiates the two categories(binary vs being on a spectrum) is now deemed irrelevant. Perhaps you can say biological sex on the spectrum in terms of biological processes and gender is on the spectrum in terms of social psychological processes, but thats still reaching imo. Just my initial thoughts after seeing those tweets</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 2:11:52 PM #30:	Kazi1212 posted... If biological sex is on a spectrum, and gender is on a spectrum, what differentiates biological sex from gender as a category? I thought the fact that sex is commonly understood as binary and gender as being in the spectrum means theres a reason why we have two distinct categories. Thats why before there was a social awakening between the difference of sex and gender, both terms were used in converse interchangeably. But if youre saying both are on the spectrum, then Im not sure we need 2 different words in our vocabulary to refer to sex and gender given that the crux of what differentiates the two categories(binary vs being on a spectrum) is now deemed irrelevant. Perhaps you can say biological sex on the spectrum in terms of biological processes and gender is on the spectrum in terms of social psychological processes, but thats still reaching imo. Just my initial thoughts after seeing those tweets Gender identity is a social construct, though, right? The "biological sex" spectrum doesn't have to map 1:1 to the gender identity spectrum. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907877543] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>If biological sex is on a spectrum, and gender is on a spectrum, what differentiates biological sex from gender as a category? I thought the fact that sex is commonly understood as binary and gender as being in the spectrum means theres a reason why we have two distinct categories. Thats why before there was a social awakening between the difference of sex and gender, both terms were used in converse interchangeably. But if youre saying both are on the spectrum, then Im not sure we need 2 different words in our vocabulary to refer to sex and gender given that the crux of what differentiates the two categories(binary vs being on a spectrum) is now deemed irrelevant. Perhaps you can say biological sex on the spectrum in terms of biological processes and gender is on the spectrum in terms of social psychological processes, but thats still reaching imo. Just my initial thoughts after seeing those tweets</quote> Gender identity is a social construct, though, right? The "biological sex" spectrum doesn't have to map 1:1 to the gender identity spectrum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/31/18 2:25:13 PM #31:	hollow_shrine posted... scar the 1 posted... hollow_shrine posted... What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread. Do you mind linking that thread here, for context? This thread contains a screencap of the convo everyone's been crowing over, but not the whole thing. ~~https://twitter.com/_ElizabethMay/status/1035196005065678848?s=19~~ Actually you don't need to read this, everything is quite neatly summed up below. That started with this Chuck Tingle (yes, really) thread. https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/1035160553021304839?s=19 Oof. Even if she is wrong on this, there are some pretty cringey remarks in those tweets. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907878173] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>What I love about this is that it came about from a Laci Green thread tweeting emphatically about sex being binary and ignoring the inevitable push back from various twitter intellectuals (I don't want to dismiss anyone with this though, because some big names waded in) with the excuse that she's studying the topic and that she should know. Enter the twitter user in the op who lays out why she's wrong and then trumps her credentials when she attempts to appeal to authority. In summary, tea was served and leftist twitter was pleased. Those 3k followers may well have followed him because of that because of the drama of that thread.</quote> Do you mind linking that thread here, for context?</quote> This thread contains a screencap of the convo everyone's been crowing over, but not the whole thing. https://twitter.com/_ElizabethMay/status/1035196005065678848?s=19 Actually you don't need to read this, everything is quite neatly summed up below. That started with this Chuck Tingle (yes, really) thread. https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/1035160553021304839?s=19</quote> Oof. Even if she is wrong on this, there are some pretty cringey remarks in those tweets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cookie Bag 08/31/18 3:01:52 PM #33:	Agree or disagree with this, you lost me at "twitter" --- https://imgtc.com/i/AuJKAON.gif https://imgtc.com/i/ScpGt0K.gif https://imgtc.com/i/L7oyUct.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/wwsMJDT.gif <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:907879960] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>Agree or disagree with this, you lost me at "twitter"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 3:21:53 PM #34:	Cookie Bag posted... Agree or disagree with this, you lost me at "twitter" Twitter has a lot of interesting stuff friend --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907880915] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>Agree or disagree with this, you lost me at "twitter"</quote> Twitter has a lot of interesting stuff friend</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 08/31/18 3:33:44 PM #35:	Not really. --- https://imgtc.com/i/AuJKAON.gif https://imgtc.com/i/ScpGt0K.gif https://imgtc.com/i/L7oyUct.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/wwsMJDT.gif <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:907881521] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>Not really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 08/31/18 3:57:05 PM #37:	shockthemonkey posted... I do love when people try to argue you think trans men and cis men are the same biologically? and I just have to wonder if they think every man is a clone of each other. Like fuck no, every single person is different biologically. The fuck kind of question is that? on this board, it hasn't even really advanced to that point yet. there are still people talking about "men" and "trans men" as though they're two distinct categories --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:907882749] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>I do love when people try to argue you think trans men and cis men are the same biologically? and I just have to wonder if they think every man is a clone of each other. Like fuck no, every single person is different biologically. The fuck kind of question is that?</quote> on this board, it hasn't even really advanced to that point yet. there are still people talking about "men" and "trans men" as though they're two distinct categories</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myzz7 08/31/18 3:57:55 PM #38:	dontIoseyourway posted... penis = male vagina = female --- ''If I knew how to dox people, and you lived close to me, I would beat you with a bat.'' Bad_Mojo 8/24/2018 <cite>myzz7 posted [p:907882786] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>penis = male vagina = female</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 08/31/18 4:01:53 PM #39:	averagejoel posted... shockthemonkey posted... I do love when people try to argue you think trans men and cis men are the same biologically? and I just have to wonder if they think every man is a clone of each other. Like fuck no, every single person is different biologically. The fuck kind of question is that? on this board, it hasn't even really advanced to that point yet. there are still people talking about "men" and "trans men" as though they're two distinct categories they are. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:907882973] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>I do love when people try to argue you think trans men and cis men are the same biologically? and I just have to wonder if they think every man is a clone of each other. Like fuck no, every single person is different biologically. The fuck kind of question is that?</quote> on this board, it hasn't even really advanced to that point yet. there are still people talking about "men" and "trans men" as though they're two distinct categories</quote> they are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 08/31/18 4:12:49 PM #40:	dontIoseyourway posted... averagejoel posted... shockthemonkey posted... I do love when people try to argue you think trans men and cis men are the same biologically? and I just have to wonder if they think every man is a clone of each other. Like fuck no, every single person is different biologically. The fuck kind of question is that? on this board, it hasn't even really advanced to that point yet. there are still people talking about "men" and "trans men" as though they're two distinct categories they are. see what I mean? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:907883521] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>I do love when people try to argue you think trans men and cis men are the same biologically? and I just have to wonder if they think every man is a clone of each other. Like fuck no, every single person is different biologically. The fuck kind of question is that?</quote> on this board, it hasn't even really advanced to that point yet. there are still people talking about "men" and "trans men" as though they're two distinct categories</quote> they are.</quote> see what I mean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 08/31/18 4:16:24 PM #41:	averagejoel posted... dontIoseyourway posted... averagejoel posted... shockthemonkey posted... I do love when people try to argue you think trans men and cis men are the same biologically? and I just have to wonder if they think every man is a clone of each other. Like fuck no, every single person is different biologically. The fuck kind of question is that? on this board, it hasn't even really advanced to that point yet. there are still people talking about "men" and "trans men" as though they're two distinct categories they are. see what I mean? Words are hard sometimes right? --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:907883691] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>I do love when people try to argue you think trans men and cis men are the same biologically? and I just have to wonder if they think every man is a clone of each other. Like fuck no, every single person is different biologically. The fuck kind of question is that?</quote> on this board, it hasn't even really advanced to that point yet. there are still people talking about "men" and "trans men" as though they're two distinct categories</quote> they are.</quote> see what I mean?</quote> Words are hard sometimes right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 08/31/18 4:17:58 PM #42:	Here's a worthless 500 topic --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:907883751] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>Here's a worthless 500 topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/31/18 4:26:38 PM #43:	Cookie Bag posted... Not really. It really does. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:907884184] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>Not really.</quote> It really does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 08/31/18 4:37:38 PM #45:	When the average person talks about sex, they are using the simple basis of genitalia. That is the basic human reality. Things might get a bit more complex once you get into the make up of our bodies, but that's not going to change that fact. It's not going to change the fact that the grand majority of people are "normal." <cite>nemu posted [p:907884742] in Twitter th... [t:76954146]...</cite> <quote>When the average person talks about sex, they are using the simple basis of genitalia. That is the basic human reality. Things might get a bit more complex once you get into the make up of our bodies, but that's not going to change that fact. It's not going to change the fact that the grand majority of people are "normal."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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