Poll of the Day > Is it still prejudice if it's factually true?

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Lokarin
09/05/18 3:26:06 PM
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No examples; 'cuz mod history
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shadowsword87
09/05/18 3:30:55 PM
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It depends on how you treat it.
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Blorfenburger
09/05/18 3:33:22 PM
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I have you tagged as an agent of the liar
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Golden Road
09/05/18 3:33:54 PM
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It depends, but often, yes. An obvious case is when a stranger insults a fat person under the guise of caring for this stranger's health. They may be stating facts, but do you really care so much about this stranger's health, or are you just using that as an excuse to insult them?
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ungubby
09/05/18 3:35:24 PM
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Why can't we just put prejudice behind us?
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zebatov
09/05/18 3:47:48 PM
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It isn't, but around here certain people think so. Also stereotypes can't be discussed either, even though they come from somewhere.

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Mead
09/05/18 3:58:26 PM
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Yes it is
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Fam_Fam
09/05/18 3:59:54 PM
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well prejudice would mean that you are assuming something before knowing it.

so yes, its predjudice regardless of if you are actually correct in your assumptions.
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joemodda
09/05/18 4:10:33 PM
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You have a pool of facts, and if you selectively choose some facts to make a point while ignoring other facts, then that is pretty biased
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GanglyKhan
09/05/18 5:14:54 PM
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A prejudice is an opinion, so the syntax doesn't even allow for this question to be raised. Opinions can't be factually true in the context that this thread is talking about. An opinion is only true in the sense that you hold it. If I say "That is cool" it's only true that I think it to be cool.
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Kyuubi4269
09/05/18 5:19:14 PM
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GanglyKhan posted...
A prejudice is an opinion, so the syntax doesn't even allow for this question to be raised. Opinions can't be factually true in the context that this thread is talking about. An opinion is only true in the sense that you hold it. If I say "That is cool" it's only true that I think it to be cool.

An opinion can be true if the opinion is that a thing is true.
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pedro45
09/05/18 5:21:08 PM
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They'll of course be based on some fact, but being prejudice is just a lazy way of not having to get to know someone. It does bite when you're around a closed minded person and someone follows a stereotype and is a jerk on top of that; they just eat that up.
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Lokarin
09/05/18 7:11:52 PM
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Blorfenburger posted...
I have you tagged as an agent of the liar


Dude, I am max truth
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darkknight109
09/05/18 7:16:49 PM
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Of course it is. The word "prejudice" literally means to prematurely judge something a.k.a. to assume something before you know the facts. That definition remains true regardless of whether or not you are correct.

If, for instance, I see a black person and think "that guy's probably a coked-up criminal", that is prejudice, even if it turns out that the guy actually is a coked-up criminal. It is prejudice because I had no information to reasonably make that assumption and the information I did use - skin colour - is not a reliable indicator of the assumption made, yet I assumed it anyways.
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Lokarin
09/05/18 8:04:29 PM
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Well, I mean stuff like that it's true before the reveal, not coincidentally true afterwards

stuff like "got a lot of Maple Syrup up there in Canada, eh?"... that's a prejudice (and a micro-aggression technically)
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Mead
09/05/18 8:07:41 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Well, I mean stuff like that it's true before the reveal, not coincidentally true afterwards

stuff like "got a lot of Maple Syrup up there in Canada, eh?"... that's a prejudice (and a micro-aggression technically)


How do I delete your post
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Lokarin
09/05/18 8:31:16 PM
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Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...
Well, I mean stuff like that it's true before the reveal, not coincidentally true afterwards

stuff like "got a lot of Maple Syrup up there in Canada, eh?"... that's a prejudice (and a micro-aggression technically)


How do I delete your post


Why?
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Mead
09/05/18 8:31:35 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...
Well, I mean stuff like that it's true before the reveal, not coincidentally true afterwards

stuff like "got a lot of Maple Syrup up there in Canada, eh?"... that's a prejudice (and a micro-aggression technically)


How do I delete your post


Why?


Its bad
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Lokarin
09/05/18 8:40:15 PM
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Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...
Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...
Well, I mean stuff like that it's true before the reveal, not coincidentally true afterwards

stuff like "got a lot of Maple Syrup up there in Canada, eh?"... that's a prejudice (and a micro-aggression technically)


How do I delete your post


Why?


Its bad


Is Canadians having Maple Syrup too racist for gamefaqs?

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Smiffwilm
09/05/18 9:10:46 PM
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Blorfenburger posted...
I have you tagged as an agent of the liar

You tagged them as M'aiq?
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darkknight109
09/05/18 9:18:33 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Well, I mean stuff like that it's true before the reveal, not coincidentally true afterwards

stuff like "got a lot of Maple Syrup up there in Canada, eh?"... that's a prejudice (and a micro-aggression technically)

No, if it's something you already know to be true, then it's just a fact.
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wwinterj25
09/05/18 10:08:28 PM
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Yes. Facts can be used to victimise people.
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wolfy42
09/05/18 10:19:44 PM
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Prejudice is judging an individual or group of individuals based on a generalization, so while a generalization may be true, judging someone based on that, is still prejudice.

Now making a decision based on a generalization that is true, for instance if we discovered a few alien races in the universe, and every one we met tried to dominate us and destroy us, eat us, or basically do bad things, we might make the generalization that all aliens are vicious monsters and should be treated very carefully, and while fully armed.

We might meet a nice friendly race of aliens, but we would probably be VERY cautious at that point...only eventually letting down our guard (at which point the fuzzy aliens will grow sharp pointy teeth and eat us alive..but that is another story).

So yeah, it's still prejudice, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
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