Current Events > Reminder: Hatred is not a "differing opinion"

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mario2000
09/07/18 11:36:08 AM
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Hatred is hatred and there is no good reason to ever accept or tolerate it.
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s0nicfan
09/07/18 11:36:27 AM
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Okay. Do you hate Trump?
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On_The_Edge
09/07/18 11:39:35 AM
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Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police
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Nomadic View
09/07/18 11:39:42 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Okay. Do you hate Trump?

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mario2000
09/07/18 11:39:49 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Okay. Do you hate Trump?

Because of his policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country? Yes.

Because of the color of his skin or his sexual orientation? No.
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s0nicfan
09/07/18 11:41:13 AM
#6:


mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Okay. Do you hate Trump?

Because of his policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country? Yes.

Because of the color of his skin or his sexual orientation? No.


mario2000 posted...
Hatred is hatred and there is no good reason to ever accept or tolerate it.

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Nomadic View
09/07/18 11:41:37 AM
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Im sorry, but hatred is hatred and there is no good reason to accept that.
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Lord_Wombat
09/07/18 11:41:54 AM
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Cool/10
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lifeamovie
09/07/18 11:42:22 AM
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define hatred
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mario2000
09/07/18 11:44:01 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Okay. Do you hate Trump?

Because of his policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country? Yes.

Because of the color of his skin or his sexual orientation? No.


mario2000 posted...
Hatred is hatred and there is no good reason to ever accept or tolerate it.

Nomadic View posted...
Im sorry, but hatred is hatred and there is no good reason to accept that.

And I don't expect either of you to accept it.
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DarkProto05
09/07/18 11:44:45 AM
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On_The_Edge posted...
Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police

It's matters because people don't want to interact with folks in real life who secretly don't like their background.
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s0nicfan
09/07/18 11:44:49 AM
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mario2000 posted...
And I don't expect either of you to accept it*.


*or tolerate it.
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mario2000
09/07/18 11:45:08 AM
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The problem is that we have too many people trying to paint hatred as "just differing opinions, bro" and it needs to end.
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s0nicfan
09/07/18 11:46:57 AM
#14:


mario2000 posted...
The problem is that we have too many people trying to paint hatred as "just differing opinions, bro" and it needs to end.


So your objection to Trump's "policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country" can be ignored because they're not a difference of opinion but, in your own words, hatred. Which is neither to be accepted nor tolerated.
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Kolibri X
09/07/18 11:48:31 AM
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It takes a lot of courage to stand up to hate, TC. Thank you. Love Trump's hate.
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mario2000
09/07/18 11:48:47 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
The problem is that we have too many people trying to paint hatred as "just differing opinions, bro" and it needs to end.


So your objection to Trump's "policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country" can be ignored because they're not a difference of opinion but, in your own words, hatred. Which is neither to be accepted nor tolerated.

I think it's pretty telling how you rushed in here to make this about Trump just so you could try to get in a cheap and easy own.
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E32005
09/07/18 11:49:00 AM
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ReginaldClovis
09/07/18 11:49:32 AM
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mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Okay. Do you hate Trump?

Because of his policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country? Yes.


This is neither acceptable or tolerable.
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s0nicfan
09/07/18 11:49:57 AM
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mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
The problem is that we have too many people trying to paint hatred as "just differing opinions, bro" and it needs to end.


So your objection to Trump's "policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country" can be ignored because they're not a difference of opinion but, in your own words, hatred. Which is neither to be accepted nor tolerated.

I think it's pretty telling how you rushed in here to make this about Trump just so you could try to get in a cheap and easy own.


If it was cheap and easy that's only because you didn't put any actual thought into the words you put down. Maybe the problem is that you're too focused on deep sounding adages and not meaningful thoughts. Or, in the words of Voltaire: "A witty saying proves nothing."
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BJ-blazkowics
09/07/18 11:50:07 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Okay. Do you hate Trump?


this is a hell of a cop out.

"do you hate hate? huh?! Checkmate librulz!"
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mario2000
09/07/18 11:51:11 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
The problem is that we have too many people trying to paint hatred as "just differing opinions, bro" and it needs to end.


So your objection to Trump's "policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country" can be ignored because they're not a difference of opinion but, in your own words, hatred. Which is neither to be accepted nor tolerated.

I think it's pretty telling how you rushed in here to make this about Trump just so you could try to get in a cheap and easy own.


If it was cheap and easy that's only because you didn't put any actual thought into the words you put down. Maybe the problem is that you're too focused on deep sounding adages and not meaningful thoughts. Or, in the words of Voltaire: "A witty saying proves nothing."

neo: whoa
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mario2000
09/07/18 11:54:27 AM
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Conflict posted...
Topic would've went better if you just referred to a specific kind of hatred instead of all of it

no the intelligent people can grasp the simple meaning while the redhats can flail around with their "looool u haet trump OWNED" rhetoric
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Caution998
09/07/18 11:56:12 AM
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Depends on your definition of hatred.

If you group in everyone that voted for Trump as a deplorable or some sort of bigot, then that isn't hatred. The large majority of those people voted out of personal interest, or what they thought was best for the country.
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s0nicfan
09/07/18 11:56:35 AM
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mario2000 posted...
Conflict posted...
Topic would've went better if you just referred to a specific kind of hatred instead of all of it

no the intelligent people can grasp the simple meaning while the redhats can flail around with their "looool u haet trump OWNED" rhetoric


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were a hypocrite. You willingly hate the things that you want to hate and define hatred using boundaries that make your own hate acceptable, rather than acknowledging that you're a part of the problem and work to make yourself better.
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BJ-blazkowics
09/07/18 11:58:15 AM
#26:


s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
Conflict posted...
Topic would've went better if you just referred to a specific kind of hatred instead of all of it

no the intelligent people can grasp the simple meaning while the redhats can flail around with their "looool u haet trump OWNED" rhetoric


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were a hypocrite. You willingly hate the things that you want to hate and define hatred using boundaries that make your own hate acceptable, rather than acknowledging that you're a part of the problem and work to make yourself better.


"LOL if u hate hate then u got to hate yourself cuz u hate hatred haha checkmate librulz! MAGA! #white"
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Nomadic View
09/07/18 11:59:32 AM
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Conflict posted...
Topic would've went better if you just referred to a specific kind of hatred instead of all of it

Naturally there's going to be a bit of a difference between hating an entire race of people and hating the president


Yeah, I think most people here agree that racism is bad. But if thats what hes talking about then just come out and say it. He shouldnt just use some broad blanket statement then get all tore up when his own standards are then used against him.
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mario2000
09/07/18 12:01:51 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
Conflict posted...
Topic would've went better if you just referred to a specific kind of hatred instead of all of it

no the intelligent people can grasp the simple meaning while the redhats can flail around with their "looool u haet trump OWNED" rhetoric


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were a hypocrite. You willingly hate the things that you want to hate and define hatred using boundaries that make your own hate acceptable, rather than acknowledging that you're a part of the problem and work to make yourself better.

I already said I don't expect you to accept the fact that I hate Trump.
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s0nicfan
09/07/18 12:02:37 PM
#29:


mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
Conflict posted...
Topic would've went better if you just referred to a specific kind of hatred instead of all of it

no the intelligent people can grasp the simple meaning while the redhats can flail around with their "looool u haet trump OWNED" rhetoric


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were a hypocrite. You willingly hate the things that you want to hate and define hatred using boundaries that make your own hate acceptable, rather than acknowledging that you're a part of the problem and work to make yourself better.

I already said I don't expect you to accept the fact that I hate Trump.


Or tolerate it. You keep omitting that part. Your hatred shouldn't be tolerated.
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mario2000
09/07/18 12:04:58 PM
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It is good and necessary to punch Nazis.
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NinjaWarrior455
09/07/18 12:05:11 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
Yeah, I think most people here agree that racism is bad.

Doubt
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mario2000
09/07/18 12:47:40 PM
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define "here"
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Trelve
09/07/18 12:51:49 PM
#33:


Are we talking about the game?
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mario2000
09/07/18 1:00:18 PM
#34:


Trelve posted...
Are we talking about the game?

FINALLY someone gets it.
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Roxborough4Ever
09/07/18 1:02:29 PM
#35:


mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Okay. Do you hate Trump?

Because of his policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country? Yes.

Because of the color of his skin or his sexual orientation? No.


well, no....you CANT hate him.,.......its intolerable
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On_The_Edge
09/07/18 1:45:39 PM
#36:


DarkProto05 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police

It's matters because people don't want to interact with folks in real life who secretly don't like their background.

Then you should stop trying to police their views, b/c if you police their thoughts and feelings they will just hide their racism and you'll never know if you're interacting with a racist or not.
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mario2000
09/07/18 1:47:35 PM
#37:


On_The_Edge posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police

It's matters because people don't want to interact with folks in real life who secretly don't like their background.

Then you should stop trying to police their views, b/c if you police their thoughts and feelings they will just hide their racism and you'll never know if you're interacting with a racist or not.

if someone's being a racist then you have a duty to call them out on it
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thanosibe
09/07/18 1:49:49 PM
#38:


s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
Conflict posted...
Topic would've went better if you just referred to a specific kind of hatred instead of all of it

no the intelligent people can grasp the simple meaning while the redhats can flail around with their "looool u haet trump OWNED" rhetoric


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were a hypocrite. You willingly hate the things that you want to hate and define hatred using boundaries that make your own hate acceptable, rather than acknowledging that you're a part of the problem and work to make yourself better.

I already said I don't expect you to accept the fact that I hate Trump.


Or tolerate it. You keep omitting that part. Your hatred shouldn't be tolerated.
Its apparent he didnt think this one through. Or hes super special and his own criteria doesnt apply to him. Either way its entertaining.
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Tyranthraxus
09/07/18 1:50:33 PM
#39:


lifeamovie posted...
define hatred

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Zikten
09/07/18 1:50:36 PM
#40:


On_The_Edge posted...
Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police

This. Racists suck but until they do something you can't punch them. It's not illegal to be racist
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The Great Muta 22
09/07/18 1:57:50 PM
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On_The_Edge posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police

It's matters because people don't want to interact with folks in real life who secretly don't like their background.

Then you should stop trying to police their views, b/c if you police their thoughts and feelings they will just hide their racism and you'll never know if you're interacting with a racist or not.


Good. Making racists afraid to proclaim their intolerance is quite okay with me
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Dyinglegacy
09/07/18 2:12:29 PM
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Tolerance means that you, well, tolerate something. Right?

Shouldn't that mean that you don't necessarily like or agree with the thing that you are tolerating, but you're allowing it to be anyway?

Usually, when I see people discuss tolerance, they aren't actually tolerating anything, as they are more in support of said thing.
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On_The_Edge
09/07/18 2:12:40 PM
#43:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police

It's matters because people don't want to interact with folks in real life who secretly don't like their background.

Then you should stop trying to police their views, b/c if you police their thoughts and feelings they will just hide their racism and you'll never know if you're interacting with a racist or not.


Good. Making racists afraid to proclaim their intolerance is quite okay with me

It is a stupid idea. You drive it underground and make it difficult to identify
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Zikten
09/07/18 2:15:41 PM
#44:


Dyinglegacy posted...
Tolerance means that you, well, tolerate something. Right?

Shouldn't that mean that you don't necessarily like or agree with the thing that you are tolerating, but you're allowing it to be anyway?

Usually, when I see people discuss tolerance, they aren't actually tolerating anything, as they are more in support of said thing.

Yea i never liked how people use the word tolerance. It shows that most people don't actually know the definition of the word
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mario2000
09/07/18 2:23:48 PM
#45:


On_The_Edge posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police

It's matters because people don't want to interact with folks in real life who secretly don't like their background.

Then you should stop trying to police their views, b/c if you police their thoughts and feelings they will just hide their racism and you'll never know if you're interacting with a racist or not.


Good. Making racists afraid to proclaim their intolerance is quite okay with me

It is a stupid idea. You drive it underground and make it difficult to identify

And the problem with that is...?

...Unless you WANT racism to be normalized. Is that what you want?
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ultimate reaver
09/07/18 2:29:11 PM
#46:


op: racism is intolerable and not acceptable under any cirucmstances
the usual suspects: but are -you- racist... *thunder strikes dramatically, slowly turns*... against the president????
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Zikten
09/07/18 2:29:34 PM
#47:


mario2000 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police

It's matters because people don't want to interact with folks in real life who secretly don't like their background.

Then you should stop trying to police their views, b/c if you police their thoughts and feelings they will just hide their racism and you'll never know if you're interacting with a racist or not.


Good. Making racists afraid to proclaim their intolerance is quite okay with me

It is a stupid idea. You drive it underground and make it difficult to identify

And the problem with that is...?

...Unless you WANT racism to be normalized. Is that what you want?

The problem being they hide in shadows and plan terrorist attacks and we can't detect them or have any warning or stop them
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mario2000
09/07/18 2:30:50 PM
#48:


Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Why are people so fucking obsessed with hate? Who cares if people hate something or someone? I care about what they do. Could give less of a shit about the internal feelings they have. Why are we policing people's fucking feelings? Unless it manifests in illegal/immoral behavior then mind your own damn business, someone's internal state is not yours to police

It's matters because people don't want to interact with folks in real life who secretly don't like their background.

Then you should stop trying to police their views, b/c if you police their thoughts and feelings they will just hide their racism and you'll never know if you're interacting with a racist or not.


Good. Making racists afraid to proclaim their intolerance is quite okay with me

It is a stupid idea. You drive it underground and make it difficult to identify

And the problem with that is...?

...Unless you WANT racism to be normalized. Is that what you want?

The problem being they hide in shadows and plan terrorist attacks and we can't detect them or have any warning or stop them

And normalizing their views somehow...stops them from committing terrorist attacks?
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Grischnak
09/07/18 2:32:24 PM
#49:


s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Okay. Do you hate Trump?

Because of his policies, attitude, and what he's done to the country? Yes.

Because of the color of his skin or his sexual orientation? No.


mario2000 posted...
Hatred is hatred and there is no good reason to ever accept or tolerate it.


This legit made me laugh. It really does highlight how absurd this mindset is: Hate if awful and should never happen...unless I hate. Then it's cool. Uh huh. Seems fair.
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Iron-Tarkus
09/07/18 2:32:52 PM
#50:


To quote a tweet I saw

"No, being nice to those who oppress you and are prejudiced toward you is not "how progress is made". Being able to "agree to disagree" or "see both sides" on issues like "who counts as a valid, equal person?" is not deserving of a medal - it's cowardice"

"When matters like these are just "politics" to you, it's because you have the luxury of not being affected by them. You have no excuse to be "on the fence" or "staying neutral" with these issues - decide whether you respect all people as people or not."

Edit: added a follow up tweet that was also there
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